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I was thinking that a Generic Android Tablet Discussion thread would be a good idea. No matter the brand , maker size etc. Talk about them here.
Im debating between the Archos 101 and waiting to see if the Moto tab is good.
Whats Out There
I have been keeping a keen eye out for the variety of higher end tablets and here is what I have sort of come up with so far:
Samsung Tablet (7")
Motorola Stingray (10")
Viewsonic viewpad (7")
LG Optimus pad
SteamTV Elocity pad (7")
Archos Family of pads (3"-10")
They all have there merits, and the minor things that make them not so great. But here is a list of the gamot of features you can look for. Some of the tablets have alot of them, some have none, its basically what you want to do with it:
3G
WIFI
GPS
Bluetooth 2.1 or 3.0
Capacitive Screen
USB port(s)
(Micro) SD card slot
HDMI
G-Sensor
Accelerator meter
Geomagnetic sensor
Light Sensor
Front Camera
Back Camera
Google Apps Integration
NVIDA Tegra 2 versus 1GHx CPU w/ GPU
1024 x 600 resolution versus 800 x 480
RAM
Disk Space
Version of Android (2.2 now 3.0 later)
-MW
I know they are poppping out of the woodwork now. My biggest thing is that the majority are really expensive. Like the new Toshiba announced today is $540. THat is why Either the Cruz or Archos will match all my criteria. But the nice thing is that there seems to be a ton of different options.
Toshiba Folio 100
10.1-inch capacitive touchscreen
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 processor
16 GB internal storage (32 GB available SD expansion)
Adobe Flash 10.1
1.3 MP front-facing camera
Mini-HDMI
USB 2.0
Bluetooth 2.1
WLAN (802.11)
Mobile broadband (available Q1 2011)
I've been disappointed with the IFA ones as almost all of them have 3G which means here, onerous data contracts or ridiculous prices w/o.
Archos underwent feature regression(e.g. no GPS), and has some whacked prices for the 70 & 101. The rest seem kind of useless to me too small and at least the smallest two don't have any way of expanding storage which makes them kind of useless as anything other than a portable music player.
The Viewsonic is the Olivepad one? Didn't seem to be all that great.
Toshiba Folio MIGHT have been nice, but that Tegra will likely make it expensive.
...just too many hawking 3G and not enough that have useful extras like higher res cameras, GPS, mics, and maybe bluetooth... i.e. I'm just meh'ed by IFA offerings... Witstech A81-E is still looking good and they just got another new fw release 8/31...
Good catch, forgot the toshiba one. Here is what I am looking for a tablet:
3G (mainly so I can have google apps)
7" Display
Capacitive screen (OMLED prefered)
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 upgradeable to android 3.0
front camera
1 GHz CPU (perferably the tegra 2)
GPU (if no NVIDIA CPU)
front camera (dont care about a back one)
A-GPS
Bluetooth (at least 2.1)
WIFI B/G/N
USB
8+ GB internal storage
SD card slot is nice but not manditory
HDMI is nice but not manditory
Which matches up with the samsung tab, but the British price I found had it at over 600 British pounds, which converts to over 1000 US dollars.
-MW
mothy said:
I know they are poppping out of the woodwork now. My biggest thing is that the majority are really expensive. Like the new Toshiba announced today is $540. THat is why Either the Cruz or Archos will match all my criteria. But the nice thing is that there seems to be a ton of different options.
Toshiba Folio 100
10.1-inch capacitive touchscreen
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 processor
16 GB internal storage (32 GB available SD expansion)
Adobe Flash 10.1
1.3 MP front-facing camera
Mini-HDMI
USB 2.0
Bluetooth 2.1
WLAN (802.11)
Mobile broadband (available Q1 2011)
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Damn that is expensive.
Im mainly looking for a ereader, web surfer, watch some videos on trips, and check my gapps when on wifi.
Check out the stream tv elocity pad. No 3g, but no gps ether. the reason why everyone puts on 3g is because it's the only way to get google apps on it, until google changes their requirements for google apps.
-MW
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My wishlist is 2ghz processor at least 50gb harddrive maybe even (dare I say it) windows 7. I would like my tablet to replace my laptop. Android just isn't ready yet.
I saw talks of honeycomb [url="http://phandroid.com/2010/09/02/android-3-5-honeycomb-to-be-on-samsungs-next-generation-of-tablets-in-2011/]"here[/url] on the samsung tablet. That might be nice . Or that isn't going to be outdated in a few months
Asadullah said:
My wishlist is 2ghz processor at least 50gb harddrive maybe even (dare I say it) windows 7. I would like my tablet to replace my laptop. Android just isn't ready yet.
I saw talks of honeycomb [url="http://phandroid.com/2010/09/02/android-3-5-honeycomb-to-be-on-samsungs-next-generation-of-tablets-in-2011/]"here[/url] on the samsung tablet. That might be nice . Or that isn't going to be outdated in a few months
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I think a 2Ghz CPU, as of right now, is over powered for android. I have a Gentouch78 tablet that runs at 600MHz and it seems to run OK. My 1GHz nexus one has had no issues, and I have it multi tasking several apps at once sometimes. It will get really hot, especially when I toss the car charger on it while its doing all that, but never seen it slow down to unresponsiveness. As for the HDD space. I dont use mine much for multi media, so 50gb would be overdoing it for me. Just the ability to have an SD card slot would be enough for me, that right there is 32 gb.
Now dealing with the android OS itself, this is where things are starting to get wierd. You have 2.2, which is really a phone OS, you have 3.0 which is really a tablet OS, and so the current samsung tablet is supposed to be 2.2 and will get 3.0, but now this 3.5 is where it gets confusing. Some of the stuff I have been reading is stating that 3.5 is going to be an entirely different OS completly, or at least have an entirely different usage beyond that of a tablet or cell phone. And that you will have to buy an entirely new piece of hardware to use it because samsung already said their current tablet wont get 3.5 when it comes out, but i twill get 3.0. This is making me think that 3.5 may be the google chrome OS, which from what I am hearing I am not a total fan of. So basically, the idea as I understand it, is that the hardware will just be the input/output device and all the applications will be stored on teh cloud as well as the work being done will be done on the cloud. This is all nice and dandy until either 1) everyone gets on all at once and bogs down the system or 2) the cloud or network goes down and the device is worthless. Thats why I like android right now. If you have no data connection you can still do work. Now some things on android that do run off the cloud, like the GPS, if you need to reroute and you loose the data connection, since all the work is done on the back end you cant get anywhere until the data connection comes back.
Since Android is a full fledge Linux OS I think it can do whatever you need it to do, you just need to port the apps over. So i think it can replace a laptop, but there will always be certain things that make a laptop easier to use that are unrelated to the android OS, like a real keyboard. With phones, for instance, I still feel more comfortable texting on a physical keyboard on my blackberry then I do on the virtual keyboard on my nexus one. Now can I develope a web page, photoshop some images and toss them on the web page, with android? If they ported the apps over then sure why not, the physical keyboard will just make it easier. But as soon as you start talking windows 7 you are changing the entire hardware requirements (ARM CPU versus an x86 CPU) which will allow you to run your favorite web development software and photo editing software, and now your 50gb of disk space will be all chewed up with the OS and applications but no room for media, and with the new hardware requirements the price goes up (not like the samsung tab isnt expensive either) but then the bottom line is its still awkward to use because of the lack of a physical keyboard.
Now I am just using web development/photo editing as an example, simplier tasks, like email and web surfing, will require less and are easily done on the android OS. But the bottom line is to use the right tool for the right job, outline your requirements and find a solution that best fits your needs. I believe that android will be a decent laptop replacement if all your doing with your laptop is surfing the web and sending email but if your trying to do less casual stuff, like photo editing and web development, then android right now is obviously not enough, but in the future it might be. It goes back to the age old question, does hardware push the software industry, or does software push the hardware industry?
-MW
Here is the Archos 101 in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZD4Mdkt40g
You can see all the new Archos line in action here:
http://archosfans.com/
Nice...
@mothy: They're all very nice and all..but taking out the GPS is like taking a step back.....Price is nice, but I'm sure there'll be cheaper WITH GPS before too long.
marcelol said:
@mothy: They're all very nice and all..but taking out the GPS is like taking a step back.....Price is nice, but I'm sure there'll be cheaper WITH GPS before too long.
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maybe..but for me I have no use for GPS on a tablet....but that is just me. Just like all new technologies price points will get better with maturity of product.
Hello, I am newbie in using (or just having) android tablet and I am seeking one that will suits me. I found this one
Code:
gpccn.com/picshow.asp?id=31&fl=Tablet%20pc
and like it.
I want
capacitive multitouch screen
fast CPU
7 to 10 inch screen
HDMI, USB, G-sensor etc
It looks that this device have all of this, but it has just 512MB nand and it has 1366x768 and I dont know if nand will be enough and if there will be any use for such high resolution if there is no possibilities for using market
What do you thing? Is there anybody who knows this company? Anybody with tablet 1366x768?
Thanks for any reply
ondrapopik said:
Hello, I am newbie in using (or just having) android tablet and I am seeking one that will suits me. I found this one
Code:
gpccn.com/picshow.asp?id=31&fl=Tablet%20pc
and like it.
I want
capacitive multitouch screen
fast CPU
7 to 10 inch screen
HDMI, USB, G-sensor etc
It looks that this device have all of this, but it has just 512MB nand and it has 1366x768 and I dont know if nand will be enough and if there will be any use for such high resolution if there is no possibilities for using market
What do you thing? Is there anybody who knows this company? Anybody with tablet 1366x768?
Thanks for any reply
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Hmmm.... looks like they took a screenshot of an android VM running on ubuntu and photoshopped it into their device. If they don't have any pictures of the tablet in action, I'd be really dubious...
Finally I ordered this one, so will post some review when it arrives.
So I tested tablet I ordered few weeks ago and realized that this is the same device as Advent Vega. I test quadrant benchmark and got 2200 points without any customization of rom.
Screen is nice and response is fast. I can recommend this one.
ondrapopik said:
So I tested tablet I ordered few weeks ago and realized that this is the same device as Advent Vega. I test quadrant benchmark and got 2200 points without any customization of rom.
Screen is nice and response is fast. I can recommend this one.
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Can you tell us where you got it from please? Thanks.
Itaintrite said:
Can you tell us where you got it from please? Thanks.
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I found it on alibaba.com ( w w w . alibaba. com/product-tp/111757797/Nvidia_10Inch_tablet_PC_with_Capacitive.html ) or you can try web I posted before
I posted this in the general forum but did not get an answer, so posting here hoping for a reply. Sorry if this is breaking forum rules, I doing think it is but....if it is flame away and delete ...anyways. I am just curious with the introduction of quad core tablets, how do they match up to similar spec CPU in raw power. I understand that android, iOS, and windows ( in the future) are mobile OS, So directly comparing the to a laptop is useless. I did however notice that the new t33 clocked and 1.6ghz is only .1 slower than my laptop to with is running a AMD quad core at 1.7ghz. So I'm just wondering is it a direct comparison in just processing power alone or is the architecture so different in the laptop and desktop that even at the same speed they win in the power category .
Totally different. Due to the ARM architecture, the CPU is a lot less powerful than comparably clocked CPUs using the x86 or x86_64 architecture.
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jdeoxys said:
Totally different. Due to the ARM architecture, the CPU is a lot less powerful than comparably clocked CPUs using the x86 or x86_64 architecture.
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Thank you for the reply. Do you have any idea on the scale? How fast would a arm CPU have to be clocked to equal a x86 or x64?
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Thank you for the reply. Do you have any idea on the scale? How fast would a arm CPU have to be clocked to equal a x86 or x64?
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There is literally no comparison. I have a crap old AMD Athlon 64 x2 clocked at around 3 ghz with ddr2 RAM (lolwut, in 2012?). It gets 3x better sunspider scores than my infinity does. I don't know if that's the browser or what but, I think an ARM CPU would have to be at least 5-6 times higher clocked to get similar performance from x86 CPUs. For modern day ones, I think maybe even up to 10-20x. Of course, this is just my talking out of my ass here, I don't really know the exact numbers.
Well I guess my dreams of have a tablet that is truly as powerful as my laptop are still far off. But with the way tech is progressing I'm sure we'll have it someday..
fd4101 said:
Well I guess my dreams of have a tablet that is truly as powerful as my laptop are still far off. But with the way tech is progressing I'm sure we'll have it someday..
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Why? You didn't mean to play Diablo 3 on it, did you? The apps for tablets take this difference into account, so it is really a question of what apps suit your needs.
(BTW, my i3 laptop is only 4 times faster than Chrome on the Infinity running ICS, it will be probably only 3 times faster when the JB for the Infinity shows up; and we don't really need all the CPU power of i3/i5/i7 for casual web browsing..)
fd4101 said:
Well I guess my dreams of have a tablet that is truly as powerful as my laptop are still far off. But with the way tech is progressing I'm sure we'll have it someday..
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Ms surface. Core i5. Although it won't have quite the god tier 16:10 resolution of the infinity.
I got b& at /g/ for sh!tposting ;_;
ARM Cortex-A9(same as Tegra3) is in between Intel's Atom and their Desktop x86 CPUs.
A dual core Cortex-A9 is considerably faster than an Intel Atom N270 in some operations. However, it is difficult to really compare as few benchmarks are optimized for both ARM *and* x86.
The ARM architecture's primary focus is low power while being inexpensive so it will be slower than Intel's x86 by design.
Although I realize that the power of tablets have along way to go before they are playing AAA games. I would like tablets to get to a point where they can run the same level of software ( optimized for mobile of course). Desktops will always be more powerful but as it stands right now my laptop can play pretty much any game my desktop can just on lower settings. I would like a tablets to replace this. The benefits of course lower power requirements for battery life and better mobility. I thought that with quad core tablets with ghz reaching closer and closer to laptops that we where getting close but I did not know enough about x86 & x64 to know it made so much of a difference. I need to take a computer class .
I know that the cloud can give the illusion of tablets having more power than they do, but the cloud has along way till it can be fully realized to many restrictions as it stand now. Even with tablets having 4g connection it still limits mobility through contracts, deadzones, lag and makes you pay more multiple times to do what you want. Maybe in the future the cloud will make all this a wash and well all carry thin lower power devices that only need to decode video and receive input, but I see that as along way away.
fd4101 said:
Although I realize that the power of tablets have along way to go before they are playing AAA games. I would like tablets to get to a point where they can run the same level of software ( optimized for mobile of course). Desktops will always be more powerful but as it stands right now my laptop can play pretty much any game my desktop can just on lower settings. I would like a tablets to replace this. The benefits of course lower power requirements for battery life and better mobility. I thought that with quad core tablets with ghz reaching closer and closer to laptops that we where getting close but I did not know enough about x86 & x64 to know it made so much of a difference. I need to take a computer class .
I know that the cloud can give the illusion of tablets having more power than they do, but the cloud has along way till it can be fully realized to many restrictions as it stand now. Even with tablets having 4g connection it still limits mobility through contracts, deadzones, lag and makes you pay more multiple times to do what you want. Maybe in the future the cloud will make all this a wash and well all carry thin lower power devices that only need to decode video and receive input, but I see that as along way away.
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You better hope this never happens. The cloud = gigantic botnet. Google will take ALL your information and beam ideas directly to your head.
Lol well i m not sure anything can stop it but I'll start stocking up on tin foil, I'll make you a hat and ship it to you.
It's hard to say but in terms of gaming we are seeing some quite interesting developments. For example Max Payne and GTA 3 on a tablet is quite impressive if you think what kind of PC you had to own when this games were released.
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And there's Baldur's Gate for Android coming
d14b0ll0s said:
And there's Baldur's Gate for Android coming
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That's already possible since years.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.gemrb
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That is true games have come along way through optimization. Maybe games with just be better optimized and hardware won't be such a concern.
Nebucatnetzer said:
That's already possible since years.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.gemrb
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Looks cool, but the comments say otherwise. I meant the version intended for Android tablets.
d14b0ll0s said:
Looks cool, but the comments say otherwise. I meant the version intended for Android tablets.
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I tried it quite a while ago so I don't know if anything has changed.
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Basically they say it's slow even on some fast phones, gets FCs and you can't go into some menus without doing some crazy tricks. But it's nice to see some development like this. I'm still waiting for the official version, with some fright too, as it's pretty time-consuming..
Hi guys,
Im looking to buy my first ever tablet but im having trouble choosing. I'm a university engineer student and need a tablet that can take notes(alot of typing), browse the web(flash must have), remote access desktop back home (must have) and possible play few games( nothing fancy). I had a laptop(windows 7) but it was big, heavy and ended up breaking when I was rushing from class to class. That's why I'm looking for a smaller tablet. I want to stay away from laptops and try something new (android). I do have a windows desktop at home, so i dont really need another windows laptop. My budget is about 400-700 Max.
After doing some Googling I found:
Asus transformer infinity tf700t (with dock)
Samsung galaxy note 10.1 (probably will buy a dock for it)
Windows surface (has cover/dock)
Ipad 2 (don't really like apple products because there is no customization to it, but still considering)
So far I'm looking at the Asus tf700t because of the dock but since I have never owned any android tablets I'm a little unsure if its the right choice for me.*
Any tips, suggestions or comments will be much appreciated.
Thank you
You can't really go wrong with an android device. On stock OS android is more stable than any other mobile OS. And that's without losing all the customization. Where as on the iPad or any other OS or tablet/phone you have to do some sort of hackery or something extra. But out of the box an android tablet runs circles around anything else available. I can't say however the tablet apps are as polished in iOS in android. That is just simple mathematics... there are so many more phones than tablets so fewer developers work on them. But don't let that discourage you. You will still find what you looking for and more with the tablet your most interested in.
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You can't really go wrong with an android device. On stock OS android is more stable than any other mobile OS. And that's without losing all the customization. Where as on the iPad or any other OS or tablet/phone you have to do some sort of hackery or something extra. But out of the box an android tablet runs circles around anything else available. I can't say however the tablet apps are as polished in iOS in android. That is just simple mathematics... there are so many more phones than tablets so fewer developers work on them. But don't let that discourage you. You will still find what you looking for and more with the tablet your most interested in.
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I have looked around asus transformer tf700 section and i found some good tips and everyone says its definitely worth the price, though some problems with battery life.
thanks for your comment btw.
I say go for the Galaxy Note 10.1. It's a bit newer and you also get a newer version of ICS. You may take a hit in the screen resolution, which is 1280 X 800. You do get a quad core CPU, with the Mali-400mp GPU, and 2 GBs of memory. Plus you get a pen with it ^__^. When looking at the Prime you may get a higher resolution screen of 1920 X 1200, you get a dual core CPU, the Adreno 225, and 1 GB of memory. In terms of GPU power both offer about the same performance wise. With all the other bells and whistles both have very comparable stats.
Here's a long and detailed review for the Galaxy Note 10.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wf_PqPi2tw&lc
Here's a long and detailed review for the Prime Infinity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xvzgGOpUFA
Specs on Galaxy Note 10.1 http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_10_1_n8000-4573.php
Specs on Prime Infinity http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_transformer_pad_infinity_700_3g-4604.php
If you can wait for the Windows Surface tablet to come out to see what it offers, and I highly suggest not to get an iPad because it doesn't support flash lol, and has little to no customization. Plus it's the older iPad 2 which only has a comparable GPU the PowerVR SGX543 MP2. However, the screen res is even lower than the Note 10.1 (1024 X 768) , and it has only 512 mb of ram (which in some occasions isn't enough anymore), has no dock, and has no expandable storage either.
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I say go for the Galaxy Note 10.1. It's a bit newer and you also get a newer version of ICS. You may take a hit in the screen resolution, which is 1280 X 800. You do get a quad core CPU, with the Mali-400mp GPU, and 2 GBs of memory. Plus you get a pen with it ^__^. When looking at the Prime you may get a higher resolution screen of 1920 X 1200, you get a dual core CPU, the Adreno 225, and 1 GB of memory. In terms of GPU power both offer about the same performance wise. With all the other bells and whistles both have very comparable stats.
If you can wait for the Windows Surface tablet to come out to see what it offers, and I highly suggest not to get an iPad because it doesn't support flash lol, and has little to no customization. Plus it's the older iPad 2 which only has a comparable GPU the PowerVR SGX543 MP2. However, the screen res is even lower the Note 10.1 (1024 X 768) , and it has only 512 mb of ram (which in some occasions isn't enough anymore), has no dock, and has no expandable storage either.
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Thanks for the great links and tip. I'm going to do a tryout of some tablets to see how easy and good they are at note taking. If the infinity it Samsung galaxy note 10.1 don't fit my list. I will wait for the windows surface pro to come out and buy it, that is if neither the infinity or samung note 10.1 satisfy my needs.
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Thanks for the great links and tip. I'm going to do a tryout of some tablets to see how easy and good they are at note taking. If the infinity it Samsung galaxy note 10.1 don't fit my list. I will wait for the windows surface pro to come out and buy it, that is if neither the infinity or samung note 10.1 satisfy my needs.
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You're welcome lol, and just after I posted those video from MobileTechReview, they posted this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y6m7ZLetMo Galaxy Note 10.1 vs Asus Prime Infinity =).
Just to get it out there, I'm not a complete idiot, obviously this is debatable due to architectural differences and what have you but I think we're at the stage where modern phones can hold their own against the average PC.
For example my laptop (AMD-E450 1.65GHz dual/Radeon 6850/4GB RAM) plays 1080p video with a lot to be desired. YouTube 1080p plays at low fps, and local 1080p is just straight up lag.
A lot of our devices today can breeze through such tasks without breaking a sweat and we take it for granted!
What do you think? Is your smartphone 'faster' than your PC?
I was thinking the exact same thing the other day, while I agree with the different architectures between phone and PC, my phones blow it to hell as far as YouTube is concerned. Same as you really, sluggish lag on PC when handling 1080p but on my smaller devices it's a breeze. And my pc is not low end nor high end by any means.
Sometimes my Smartphone is faster even than my PC, who has a AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE processor, 4GB of RAM. But of course I can't complain too much because I am on my PC one of heavy users, and on my smartphone - not. And on the future perhaps I will upgrade my PC (especially RAM) :silly:
When comparing raw performance, x86 will almost always beat out ARM (the type of processor in your phone). When comparing performance per watt, ARM beats x86 -- that's why your phone usually outlasts your laptop.
However, there are a few other different reasons for the gap in performance.
1 - Hardware decoders. Most smartphones, in order to save CPU power and wattage, include video decoders in the hardware. That way, whenever you want to watch a YouTube video, the dedicated chip takes care of the processing and CPU usage remains minimal. On the PC side, hardware video decoders usually only appear in some types of video cards. Chances are, if you have a cheap, $349 notebook, you've got minimal processing power to start with, and the CPU gets stuck with everything.
2 - Software. If you took the same computer you have today and put a Linux distribution on it, you'd probably get better raw performance than Windows with the usual Windows overhead + PC maker crapware + spyware infections + whatever other applications are in the background combination I usually see. I say "probably better" because there are always PCs with hardware that isn't fully supported yet, which causes performance issues particularly when it comes to video hardware.
i have been thinking of this for some time now. but compared to my computer, my computer is way faster with an intel i7 2700k and a radeon hd 7870 but compared to some laptops and low end desktops our phones can handle just about the same thing that they can handle. our phones can play some nice graphic games like real racing 3. im sure that game would make some low end computers lag at playing that game
not fast but i can play amazing spiderman and the dark knight in my phone
but cant play it in my pc :/
I have no idea, as Android still can't run Windows games. (What I wouldnt give to be able to run Skyrim on my tab... Splashtop is useless without wifi.) But the blame for that lies with game developers, not Google or Android itself.
I need to replace the gpu in my laptop as it's starting to become a bottleneck, (gt 130m), but other than, my laptop is probably faster.
Also, screen resolution on my phone is WAY lower than my computer, so it's a seriously unfair comparison, lower resolution always means higher framerate, as it has to render less.
On an 1280x800 screen, it only has to render 74% of a Full HD video, as opposed to the full 100% (and more) on a 1920x1400 screen.
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yeah , my pc is just like a slow runner(need to find new one !!!!) , my new xperia is just like ALIENWARE !! Thanks SONY Corporation
I think PC is faster. My alienware beats the s**t out of my note 2 anyday.
My PC is faster.
I can certainly see that this is not the case for everyone. My friend's laptop can't run a DS emulator very well, my phone can at about 2/3 speed, and my PC can at full speed.
My PC can run both an HD Game of Thrones rip (we own it on Blu Ray) and run the Dolphin Game Cube emulator playing Twilight Princess at full speed - at the same time.
And it's not even that great a PC - it's just a mid-range gaming set-up that I built because I wanted to play GW2 and Skyrim (not the most demanding games) at maximum shininess.
Did some googling and it appears today's phone CPUs would be equal to about a Pentium D computationally.
You need a few more generations to really close the gap. Any perceptions of them being faster is based on the overall architecture of the phones.
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crayz9000 said:
When comparing raw performance, x86 will almost always beat out ARM (the type of processor in your phone). When comparing performance per watt, ARM beats x86 -- that's why your phone usually outlasts your laptop.
However, there are a few other different reasons for the gap in performance.
1 - Hardware decoders. Most smartphones, in order to save CPU power and wattage, include video decoders in the hardware. That way, whenever you want to watch a YouTube video, the dedicated chip takes care of the processing and CPU usage remains minimal. On the PC side, hardware video decoders usually only appear in some types of video cards. Chances are, if you have a cheap, $349 notebook, you've got minimal processing power to start with, and the CPU gets stuck with everything.
2 - Software. If you took the same computer you have today and put a Linux distribution on it, you'd probably get better raw performance than Windows with the usual Windows overhead + PC maker crapware + spyware infections + whatever other applications are in the background combination I usually see. I say "probably better" because there are always PCs with hardware that isn't fully supported yet, which causes performance issues particularly when it comes to video hardware.
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to add to what this poster has already stated:
3 - Possessor Channels. They are kinda like interstate highways for programming languages that pass information that is recognized as a supported without a whole lot of extra emulation or superfluous handling. Apparently ARM has many more channels than IBM or AMD; google it and be surprised.
4 - Openstack. Why compare differences and get all caught up with what can and can't be done on an individual hardware set-up(s), instead lets join them all together into one virtual machine and never worry about speed or ram again.. this is what I'm working on and there is promise that one day we will all be able to run any program or operating system with any collection of old hardware.
my HOX now with viperx 3.6 is iqual in speed to my laptop.(lenovo p4)
My pc still faster
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Yeah I agree my HTC is faster than my old P4 Windows XP.
Well, yes. Nexus One 1GHZ 512MB RAM vs Athon 850Mhz 364MB RAM
My htc desire plays 720p 10x faster than my P4 desktop. It's a real shame, my mother paid 3 grand for that HP back in 2004. Look at the progression of technology...
It's a shame that my phone faster than my PC ,, but thanks to my PC i can finish my assignments faster.. can i use phone to do it ?LoL :what:
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Hey guys,
I am thinking on buy a Surface Pro 1 which is not too expensive (about 350€ in Spain - resale method) to basically develop in Android Studio or whatever other IDE like Eclipse, NetBeans, IntelliJ, BlueJ. Also VS2015 could be another one. It seems to have enough specs to compile and run projects without problems but maybe some of you can help me to clarify this. Specs are:
Intel Core i5-3317U (3M Cache; 1.7GHz)
4GB RAM
10,6" - 16:9 Full HD 1920 x 1080
Intel HD Graphics 4000
What do you think?
Thanks a lot .
pep0te said:
Hey guys,
I am thinking on buy a Surface Pro 1 which is not too expensive (about 350€ in Spain - resale method) to basically develop in Android Studio or whatever other IDE like Eclipse, NetBeans, IntelliJ, BlueJ. Also VS2015 could be another one. It seems to have enough specs to compile and run projects without problems but maybe some of you can help me to clarify this. Specs are:
Intel Core i5-3317U (3M Cache; 1.7GHz)
4GB RAM
10,6" - 16:9 Full HD 1920 x 1080
Intel HD Graphics 4000
What do you think?
Thanks a lot .
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You should buy thier wireless mouse and type cover too, and a 20 inch monitor too , program on a litte screen can hurt your neck and your eye too.
I dont know what programmer usually do but run cpu about 50% 60% is good enough.
puacham said:
You should buy thier wireless mouse and type cover too, and a 20 inch monitor too , program on a litte screen can hurt your neck and your eye too.
I dont know what programmer usually do but run cpu about 50% 60% is good enough.
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Hiho, thanks for answer.
I speak about Surface also for its weight (around 2lbs - 907g), because I will change to another country and maybe I need to use it while I am in a train or flight. Of course once I am at home I can use either Surface or desktop PC which is a master race specs