Going back to Z3 after Z5 - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey all,
So I got the Z5 recently and while it's a very nice phone, I'm a bit bummed by the battery not being as stellar as I'd have hoped. I had a Z3c last year and loved it for the battery but didn't dig the small size and the camera was a bit maddening...
That said, the Z5 has some benefits but I'm debating if they're 2x the cost benefits (used Z3's appear to be going for ~300 while the Z5 was ~600). Have people figured out the camera/has it gotten any updates since last year to make it less slow at focus and muddy overprocessed shots? Also, how's the battery life on LP these days? Maybe I should keep the Z5 and sit tight for MM...

It sounds like the Z5 has the better camera, fingerprint sensor and the 810 going for it. Not sure if it's worth the price upgrade over the Z3. The Z3 is still a solid device.
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I would say don't give up. Though there are definitely some give and take either way. The S810 if definitely a hot one even with the dual heat pipes.
Though if or when there is root a slight under clock could help.
Though I agree it's not hundreds better than the Z3 and the battery life definitely took a bit of a hit. As far as camera don't expect much from an update. You will have to use manual modes or a good alternative camera app.
My question for you is did the speakers on the Z5 improve in quality and/or volume? Not sure if the z3c sound the same as the z3 though.

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I would say don't give up. Though there are definitely some give and take either way. The S810 if definitely a hot one even with the dual heat pipes.
Though if or when there is root a slight under clock could help.
Though I agree it's not hundreds better than the Z3 and the battery life definitely took a bit of a hit. As far as camera don't expect much from an update. You will have to use manual modes or a good alternative camera app.
My question for you is did the speakers on the Z5 improve in quality and/or volume? Not sure if the z3c sound the same as the z3 though.
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As far as z3c to z5 speakers go, it's a huge jump. They're almost as loud as the Nexus 6P and definitely really clear.
I think I'm probably gonna hang on because it's getting me through most days fine as long as I don't do a bunch of navigation or a ton of podcast listening. And hopefully Doze will make things even easier. That said, I'll probably be all over the z7 with the 820 in it.

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[Q] Xperia Z3 or HTC one M8 (need opinion)

hi, as the title says, im currently looking for a new phone, but im still confused, which one is better, the sony Xperia Z3 or the HTC one M8. Maybe you guys can give your opinions here and help me decide which one is better
thanks
azirr said:
hi, as the title says, im currently looking for a new phone, but im still confused, which one is better, the sony Xperia Z3 or the HTC one M8. Maybe you guys can give your opinions here and help me decide which one is better
thanks
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Before this gets locked, i'd say, I preferred my M8. Speakers, build quality, camera and screen. Z3 is waterproof though, and a nice shape.
azirr said:
hi, as the title says, im currently looking for a new phone, but im still confused, which one is better, the sony Xperia Z3 or the HTC one M8. Maybe you guys can give your opinions here and help me decide which one is better
thanks
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I've used the m8 for about 3 months and the Z3 for maybe 3 weeks now and while they are close I'd have to say the Z3 is the better phone in many areas. The camera is no contest, the phone is just as snappy and the UI is great. The m8 has better speakers but the Z3 for most purposes is just as good. The battery life is much better on the Z3 and in my opinion the screen is a lot nicer and that extra real estate though not that much on paper is certainly noticeable. I love the camera shutter button and don't miss the IR from the m8 since I have no problem reaching for the remote control one foot away from me. The sound is louder through headphones on the m8 which is my only gripe really. Both feel very premium, I wouldn't rate one over the other, they're just two different types of premium (metal vs glass). The glass feels great, though the m8 is more comfortable to hold, but when the phones are past a certain threshold for size I think comfort in hand is all relatively the same anyways, aka I have no problems handling this phone and didn't think the m8 was significantly better other than mild comfort from the curve. That's about it, if I had to recommend to any friends I would hands down tell them they're getting better bang for the buck with the Z3 especially after the ps4 screen share update arrives. If you have any other comparison questions just ask away!
Jonathan-H said:
Before this gets locked, i'd say, I preferred my M8. Speakers, build quality, camera and screen. Z3 is waterproof though, and a nice shape.
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oh sorry, i just found out the device suggestion thread. thanks for your suggestion btw!
ladelfm said:
I've used the m8 for about 3 months and the Z3 for maybe 3 weeks now and while they are close I'd have to say the Z3 is the better phone in many areas. The camera is no contest, the phone is just as snappy and the UI is great. The m8 has better speakers but the Z3 for most purposes is just as good. The battery life is much better on the Z3 and in my opinion the screen is a lot nicer and that extra real estate though not that much on paper is certainly noticeable. I love the camera shutter button and don't miss the IR from the m8 since I have no problem reaching for the remote control one foot away from me. The sound is louder through headphones on the m8 which is my only gripe really. Both feel very premium, I wouldn't rate one over the other, they're just two different types of premium (metal vs glass). The glass feels great, though the m8 is more comfortable to hold, but when the phones are past a certain threshold for size I think comfort in hand is all relatively the same anyways, aka I have no problems handling this phone and didn't think the m8 was significantly better other than mild comfort from the curve. That's about it, if I had to recommend to any friends I would hands down tell them they're getting better bang for the buck with the Z3 especially after the ps4 screen share update arrives. If you have any other comparison questions just ask away!
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thank you for your very informative suggestion, im more leaning to z3 now after reading your sugestion! do you know what earphone around below 50$ that suits with the z3? since the bundled earphone is just sucks from what i heard.
While I don't own a m8 my cousin does but I do own a Z3 for a week now and apart from the louder/bassier stereo speakers (Z3 is still good enough) and the louder audio in headphones on the m8 (again Z3 is still good enough especially when using DSEE HX and the noise cancelling headphones and also has better Equalizer presets).
The Z3 is the better phone imo especially for camera/video, battery life, screen, look/feel/design is subjective but I much prefer the Z3 in this department and it is waterproof too and that has come handy in the last week alone.
I'd agree on getting the Z3 (although this is the Sony thread). Both are well built and have quality screens, but I prefer the larger battery and camera over the M8's. Although the speakers could be better, I believe there was a mod called DSEE HX that amplifies the speakers on the Z3. Overall, it relies on what your needs are. They both look good so you wouldn't lose either way. As this is based on opinions, I'd go for the Z3 because it is the newer model and its design is so sleek. Sense is pretty, but I'm all about Sony's stock look and feel. If those don't really matter to you, I guess you would decide whether or not you take more pictures or listen to more music.
RCJ89 said:
While I don't own a m8 my cousin does but I do own a Z3 for a week now and apart from the louder/bassier stereo speakers (Z3 is still good enough) and the louder audio in headphones on the m8 (again Z3 is still good enough especially when using DSEE HX and the noise cancelling headphones and also has better Equalizer presets).
The Z3 is the better phone imo especially for camera/video, battery life, screen, look/feel/design is subjective but I much prefer the Z3 in this department and it is waterproof too and that has come handy in the last week alone.
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Richie5767 said:
I'd agree on getting the Z3 (although this is the Sony thread). Both are well built and have quality screens, but I prefer the larger battery and camera over the M8's. Although the speakers could be better, I believe there was a mod called DSEE HX that amplifies the speakers on the Z3. Overall, it relies on what your needs are. They both look good so you wouldn't lose either way. As this is based on opinions, I'd go for the Z3 because it is the newer model and its design is so sleek. Sense is pretty, but I'm all about Sony's stock look and feel. If those don't really matter to you, I guess you would decide whether or not you take more pictures or listen to more music.
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thanks for your opinion guys! i think i have made up my decision now
What did you decide? I'm trying to decide if the z3 camera and battery life are enough of an improvement from my m8 to switch. I generally love the m8, but I HATE the camera. All my pictures are washed out with tons of glare from any light source.
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I just trade up my Htc m8 for the sony Z3 by using my T-mobile jump program.. I am really luving this phone man ?.I love how you really have alot of options..my biggest worry is dropping the phone and breaking the glass front or back...i really do not like covers on my phone..i think it take the beauty out of them..beside i pay
the extra $10 a month issuance ?
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This thread had helped me make my decision to grab a Z3 today. I was on the fence in using Jump! to switch from my M8. I'll be going to T-Mo during lunch. Thanks to everyone for the input here.
I had an m8, I switched it for the z3 and I did everything I could to get it back again. Android development for z3 hasn't even begin, speaker quality is bad, the ui feels outdated and less responsive, camera besides x reality treatment in viewing is slow and inconsistent, the price is too high. Get an m8 which is superior in almost every aspect (m8's camera is mediocre too) or a z2 which is much cheaper and offers almost the same.
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I had an m8, I switched it for the z3 and I did everything I could to get it back again. Android development for z3 hasn't even begin, speaker quality is bad, the ui feels outdated and less responsive, camera besides x reality treatment in viewing is slow and inconsistent, the price is too high. Get an m8 which is superior in almost every aspect (m8's camera is mediocre too) or a z2 which is much cheaper and offers almost the same.
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You don't think the camera is much better? It seems like it wouldn't take much to beat the m8 there.
I wish I could try it out and get my m8 back if I didn't like it. Tmobile doesn't allow that though.
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Had M8 and now have Z3. Both are great phones. Camera isn't that bad on the M8. Especially if you just use it for social media.
Things I miss on the M8 are the IR Blaster and Blinkfeed.
Things I don't miss on the M8 are the power button on the top of the phone and the inability to swipe or double tap screen to unlock while sitting on a flat surface. You have to move the phone or it has to be in your hand on the M8. Z3 does not require that. Also, the curved back makes it rock if you wanna use the phone on a hard surface.
They both feel very comfortably to hold. Although the M8 was a bit slippery when it was brand new. Both have great speakers, and screen. Build quality is equal to me but the Z3 is a bit lighter so the M8 has little more of a solid feel in your hand.
Oh, and one of the most important thing. The battery life is a lot better on the Z3. After the first charge, I got over 6.5 hours of screen time. I expect it to get better after a few more charges. Most I could get out of the M8 was barely 5 hours.
There are tips in m8' s topic which make its camera decent even for printing photos.. It can even get better than z3's in some aspects in my opininion. Z3 has indeed better battery life, and x reality engine can make colours pop out from the screen, if you like such an effect. That's it for me, everything else is better on m8. And keep in mind that z2 is now much cheaper.
Erckul said:
This thread had helped me make my decision to grab a Z3 today. I was on the fence in using Jump! to switch from my M8. I'll be going to T-Mo during lunch. Thanks to everyone for the input here.
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If you go to buy, ask to test the device first, they will open the packaging for it.
Look for the following:
-Frame being bent outward or toward LCD <- Mine had that
-Light bleed between frame and LCD <- Mine had that
-Pink spots in camera <- Mine had that (barely noticeable but diffuse)
-Pressure test to ensure, water tightness
-Test speakers as some are getting major stereo mismatch in loudness.
I unfortunately, could not test, and since I preordered, I cannot exchange in store had to mail mine back.
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azirr said:
hi, as the title says, im currently looking for a new phone, but im still confused, which one is better, the sony Xperia Z3 or the HTC one M8. Maybe you guys can give your opinions here and help me decide which one is better
thanks
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when you ask about Z3 in z3 forum it means more will vote for z3
1 important thing i can say about Xperia devices is durability
beside this there is more ram and awesome camera and better design
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definitely z3 for me. the last time i had a htc one m7, it died on me after just barely after a year. i was also having a lot of software issues with it. purple tint, battery depleting fast and auto shut down. that was my last htc phone.
z3 got my attention with the battery life.
thanks for all of your opinions guys!! helped me alot. im going for the z3 but its not available yet in my country, so i have to wait for a couple more weeks to have it
I have both a Z3 D6603 and a HTC M8 Developer Edition. I really like the UI on the Sony a lot. Its a tough choice. The Copper color Z3 is awesome and a nice change from the gold devices by all the rest.
I do like the extra battery, more ram, and x-reality on the Z3, however; I can convert my m8 to a GPE and get Android L much quicker than we will get it on the Z3. By the time the Z3 gets Android L, then HTC will launch it as well (both promise within 90 days of release) and I can throw that on my m8.
I am more concerned with the lack of development on the Z3 and Sony's DRM Bootloader crap. I know the device was just released but so has a boat load of other devices and which ones with ultimately get the Dev Love ?

LG G3 TO Z3 anyone done this?

Has anyone done this? if so are you happy with the move or do you regret it?
If you want FM radio it makes sense, otherwise they are similar devices, I'd stick with the g3
zamarax said:
If you want FM radio it makes sense, otherwise they are similar devices, I'd stick with the g3
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Haha u get fm radio on lg g3. did u make the move?
Ahh ****, stupid North America, they disable stuff for no logical reason
http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-g3/412975-wheres-fm-radio.html
I checked the G3 at my local provider and it had no FM so I went with the z3, don't get me wrong its a beautiful phone I just hate when providers do this bull****
Yes, I have.
A bit of back story. I sold my Nexus 5 in anticipation of 6. 6 ended up being disappointing for me. So, as I couldn't bear abysmal battery of Nexus 4 I was using in the meantime I decided to get an interim device till I get snapdragon 810 device in May/June which I will then keep for as long as it can keep up with my demands.
Got LG G3. Loved it. BUT. I found screen a bit too wide to use comfortably with one hand. Same for Z3 to a lesser extend. My thumb started aching from reaching back button. I just installed app called Pie Control. Battery life was good enough for me. Standby beats Z3, screen on is better on Z3. Very good camera, not as capable as Z3, but OIS is very handy. Screens are comparable. G3 is a bit washed out but OK, Z3 is fairly colour accurate but white balance is off and is hard to get right but still ok.
I returned G3 because of sw stuttering. Z3 still has it now and again, but a lot less. Coming from Nexus 5 it was a pain in G3 but bearable in Z3. A lot of people don't even notice lag in G3, it's all about your perception.
All in all, while not perfect, I'd say Z3 is one of the best phones on the market and I'm happy with it. With that phone, even when the model I want to change it for comes out, I won't have to rush and will wait for a good deal, as Z3 will still keep me happy.
TL;DR. Is it an upgrade? No. Is it better? Yes.
To answer your question better I need to ask you a question: what is it in G3 that makes you consider a change?
I moved from a G3 too.
Z3 is much faster than the G3. G3 had occasional stutters, but Z3 is smooth.
Plus the audio quality is a bonus.
I do miss the knock code and tap-to-lock feature of the G3 though
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Yes, I have.
A bit of back story. I sold my Nexus 5 in anticipation of 6. 6 ended up being disappointing for me. So, as I couldn't bear abysmal battery of Nexus 4 I was using in the meantime I decided to get an interim device till I get snapdragon 810 device in May/June which I will then keep for as long as it can keep up with my demands.
Got LG G3. Loved it. BUT. I found screen a bit too wide to use comfortably with one hand. Same for Z3 to a lesser extend. My thumb started aching from reaching back button. I just installed app called Pie Control. Battery life was good enough for me. Standby beats Z3, screen on is better on Z3. Very good camera, not as capable as Z3, but OIS is very handy. Screens are comparable. G3 is a bit washed out but OK, Z3 is fairly colour accurate but white balance is off and is hard to get right but still ok.
I returned G3 because of sw stuttering. Z3 still has it now and again, but a lot less. Coming from Nexus 5 it was a pain in G3 but bearable in Z3. A lot of people don't even notice lag in G3, it's all about your perception.
All in all, while not perfect, I'd say Z3 is one of the best phones on the market and I'm happy with it. With that phone, even when the model I want to change it for comes out, I won't have to rush and will wait for a good deal, as Z3 will still keep me happy.
TL;DR. Is it an upgrade? No. Is it better? Yes.
To answer your question better I need to ask you a question: what is it in G3 that makes you consider a change?
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x017in said:
I moved from a G3 too.
Z3 is much faster than the G3. G3 had occasional stutters, but Z3 is smooth.
Plus the audio quality is a bonus.
I do miss the knock code and tap-to-lock feature of the G3 though
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HI thank you for your answers.
to answer your question i don t know why i want to change haha.
i got rid of the lag on the g3 by rooting and putting a custom rom on it,
the g3 has fantastic battery life for me as well.
Just heard a lot of good things about the z3 and am tempted to give it a try, but the root factor is a big doubt for me. i might leave it a few weeks until root is avalable on the z3.
i also like sonys ui i think i could live with the sony ui and not have to flash a aosp rom, as long as it has root it would be perfect.
x017in said:
I moved from a G3 too.
Z3 is much faster than the G3. G3 had occasional stutters, but Z3 is smooth.
Plus the audio quality is a bonus.
I do miss the knock code and tap-to-lock feature of the G3 though
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has the z3 got double tap to wake?
vinnyutd6899 said:
has the z3 got double tap to wake?
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yes it does, but as was previously mentioned, there's no tap to unlock and tap to sleep
vinnyutd6899 said:
HI thank you for your answers.
to answer your question i don t know why i want to change haha.
i got rid of the lag on the g3 by rooting and putting a custom rom on it,
the g3 has fantastic battery life for me as well.
Just heard a lot of good things about the z3 and am tempted to give it a try, but the root factor is a big doubt for me. i might leave it a few weeks until root is avalable on the z3.
i also like sonys ui i think i could live with the sony ui and not have to flash a aosp rom, as long as it has root it would be perfect.
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I'd keep G3 then.
vinnyutd6899 said:
HI thank you for your answers.
to answer your question i don t know why i want to change haha.
i got rid of the lag on the g3 by rooting and putting a custom rom on it,
the g3 has fantastic battery life for me as well.
Just heard a lot of good things about the z3 and am tempted to give it a try, but the root factor is a big doubt for me. i might leave it a few weeks until root is avalable on the z3.
i also like sonys ui i think i could live with the sony ui and not have to flash a aosp rom, as long as it has root it would be perfect.
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I put a custom ROM on a newly purchased G3 yesterday, and it's an alright device, but I too am looking to switch.
I can tell you (I own a Z1 Compact as well) that if you think the G3 has a good battery, wait til you get your hands on a Sony. FWIW, my G3 battery experience has been just okay. I can drop close to 20% on the G3 browsing the internet for an hour. The screen is nice... but not worth it IMHO.
It is possible to get double tap to sleep if you are rooted and have Xposed installed....
IMHO it worth to change, the camera is better and battery life too. The problem until now is custom room and root against to G3 have all of customization.
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Has anyone done this? if so are you happy with the move or do you regret it?
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I have moved from G3 too.
I liked the 4K display, the laser autofocus, and this is all, nothing else.
The G3 even with ART, is full laggy, this SOC not suitable, or not well compatible ( not the best word) with 4k pixel amount. LAGGY.
and.... THE SLOW MOTION. : If u take a slow mo video, with LG G3, you can only play back on your device !!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF u put the output file to PC, or anything, IT WILL be not be viewed as u desire, It will play it with 120fps, WHILE on Z3 , u can edit, or save WITH the desired 1/2, 1/4,1/8 for further playing. And the Z3, keeps the 120 fps file for further editing.
Stereo speakers on Z3....
Water and Dust handling...
what else do u need?
ohh yeah. the andoid 5.0 : only 3 country in the world got the update. Why? Not well optimized yet.
To anyone whos thinking about moving from G3 To Z3, I don't see the point, G3 And Z3 Have fairly similar specs, both offering a good experience; I'd say to stick with the G3. No point buying a Z3, Plus Z4's Around the corner
If you install a custom launcher (Nova for me) and use Screen Off and Lock, you can double-tap to sleep, with no root required. Perhaps there is an easier way.
I went from the G2 to a Z3, but I still found this thread interesting.
Manach said:
If you install a custom launcher (Nova for me) and use Screen Off and Lock, you can double-tap to sleep, with no root required. Perhaps there is an easier way.
I went from the G2 to a Z3, but I still found this thread interesting.
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" you can double-tap to sleep"
this function is in the STOCK ROM TOO
I use this to sleep!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spada.nowgesturetweaks&hl=es
Hussain_Salam said:
To anyone whos thinking about moving from G3 To Z3, I don't see the point, G3 And Z3 Have fairly similar specs, both offering a good experience; I'd say to stick with the G3. No point buying a Z3, Plus Z4's Around the corner
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There's always SOMETHING around the corner. I stopped worrying about that.
I would also say that, personally, I prefer Sony's UI to LG's, and the build quality of the Sony just feels so much better. Battery, I expect based on my experiences, can't help but be way ahead of the G3.
I've ordered a Copper Z3 (6603) to be used on the Tmo network state-side and couldn't be more excited. Should be here by Wednesday.
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There's always SOMETHING around the corner. I stopped worrying about that.
I would also say that, personally, I prefer Sony's UI to LG's, and the build quality of the Sony just feels so much better. Battery, I expect based on my experiences, can't help but be way ahead of the G3.
I've ordered a Copper Z3 (6603) to be used on the Tmo network state-side and couldn't be more excited. Should be here by Wednesday.
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I'll Agree with you there, However I'm not getting alot of battery time if i'm honest maybe bout 5 hours of Screen on time?

To get the Z5 or not??

So what do people think? I can upgrade my phone next week, currently on a nexus 5. Is the Z5 actually worth getting? (seems to be a lot of negative feedback about) or I'm thinking maybe the Nexus 5X (but the Z5 outspecs it in every way.... BUT... It's a nexus, it will be stupidly fast at all times)
Or what else if anything currently?
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Hey,
I currently own an iPhone 5S and I was looking forward to change to Android for a few months now.
Today my contract ended and I finally wanted to get a new phone so in the last two weeks I was searching the right phone for me almost everyday for a few hours. Reading reviews, looking at xda and so on.
Yesterday I ordered the Z5.
At first I was looking at the G4, reviews say it has a really really good camera, it got an SD slot for up to 1 TB and a replaceable battery. Almost anything I wanted, the only thing missing was the fingerprint reader.
Then I checked for the developer community and saw/read that it's not really popular with developers which is a huge negative for me.
Then I read about the touchscreen problems it has and I was looking for something else at first.
I was hoping for the 5X or the 6P to be great phones but without an SD slot and the small storage (16GB at minimum price) as well as the high price (in Germany) I discarded the idea.
I was looking at the S6 then and realized it is a great phone, but again - no SD card (which makes it way pricier than one with an SD card as you want enough storage to not run out) - and the Exynos CPU scares some developers (at least I read that).
After checking the S5 (yes, a bit older) It was my favorite at first but I got the chance to reduce the price of the Z5.
The S5 has expandable storage, replaceable battery, great screen, good camera and a fingerprint reader.
The fingerprint reader is not the best, the design is not as great as on other phones (but that's really not important to me) and it has useless stuff like a heart rate sensor.
But if the Z5 is bad I will get the S5.
Why an older phone? You don't need really need the processing power for most stuff you do, when calling, taking photos, messaging or browsing you dont need an octa-core. Things like storage (for photos and videos you take (especially when you can record 4K)) and battery life are important to me. The fingerprint reader is not necessary but a nice to have when unlocking your phone 100 times a day.
So why the Z5?
Well, it got 32GB, an SD slot, a fingerprint reader, a good CPU, pretty good battery life and a nice camera and It will most likely get a nice developer community.
If I experience problems with it that don't justify the 560€ I paid I will return it and get another phone. But when looking at the whole package I think it's the best for me.
I hope I could help you with describing my way of choosing the phone!
Have fun looking around and I hope it doesn't take you 2 weeks to find the right phone like it took me... :laugh:
Greetings,
Daniel
Had a Z1, Z2, Z3 and now Z5. Also had a Xiaomi Mi4, Redmi Note 4G, HTC M9 and a ZTE Axon. I would recommend this phone, you won't be disappointed especially coming from Nexus 5 (Had one of these also but only briefly before digitizer went). Z5 is tops in everything compared to devices on this list with two exceptions. M9 exterior speakers are better and Axon audio through headphones is better. Guess you could argue build quality as well since M9 and Axon are metal but the Z5 is built well, water/dust resistant but glass everywhere so no drops
Yea i definitely need to find a box type rugged case if I get one!
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Depends what you want from a phone. The thing is negative reviews always outshine positive and more people write about issues they have had. (most could be user error)
My decision to get this was the fingerprint reader which works very well. Having Sony phones for so long I also couldn't see myself with anything else. The Sony launcher in my opinion is the best but I have used it for so long now it would be hard to switch to anything else.
Usually you get time to return bought items if not satisfied that would give you the chance to see for yourself
I would definitely recommend it anyhow and have not encountered many issues.
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compare to Z3 Can you update us with
1- Battery life
2- Heat problem
3- sound qulity from the speaker like playing videos from youtube or whatsapp
compare the sound VS Z3 and Let us know please
entra6 said:
compare to Z3 Can you update us with
1- Battery life
2- Heat problem
3- sound qulity from the speaker like playing videos from youtube or whatsapp
compare the sound VS Z3 and Let us know please
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1. Just streamed a two hour movie and dropped 22%. Only had the phone five days so not sure the battery is fully calibrated yet.
2. No problem with heat while streaming but have not tested extensive gaming or video recording.
3. Speakers are noticeably louder than Z3 but still do not approach HTC M7 or even M9 levels. Headphone audio is also louder than Z3.
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1. Just streamed a two hour movie and dropped 22%. Only had the phone five days so not sure the battery is fully calibrated yet.
2. No problem with heat while streaming but have not tested extensive gaming or video recording.
3. Speakers are noticeably louder than Z3 but still do not approach HTC M7 or even M9 levels. Headphone audio is also louder than Z3.
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Seems all the S810 based devices have battery issues even on standby. HTC and Sony both have regressed significantly in battery life with the Z3+/M9. Keep us posted, I was wondering if this one improved back to the Z3 levels or not. I saw a speaker comparison test don't remember where but the M9 and Z3 topped the Z5 not by too much though in terms of clarity, the Nexus 6 was last.

Thinking of moving from my S6 to the Z5 - current users, do you think it's worth it?

I'm mostly interested in good battery life, little to no lag, a good camer and a decent/good screen (not that interested in 4K).
All in all, it sounds like the Z5 is a very good choice.
What do you guys think?
Xperia Z5 hasn't been too good of an experience for me. It gets pretty warm even during light web browsing, battery life isn't up to par for me, and the display and the camera is definitely worse (in most areas) than the Galaxy S6. I'd say keep your Galaxy S6.
All the inverse for me...
Xz5 is a killer.
Better manufacture quality
More true color display and photo
Plus PSN synchro
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The thing that gets to me with the S6 is the battery, and also the app lag after a while... :/ That's why I am thinking of moving on really.
Not got either but are you interested in waiting for the 820 phones in a few months?
I've had a lot of phones and this z5 is right up there as an oem phone (not rooted) Its the best I've had little things like battery percentage, clear all apps button, battery management tools all Inc I've mixed feelings because battery life isn't as good as my nexus was, but last day or so I've tinkered with stamina mode with the battery and that's made a big difference to me about 3 hrs 30 min screen on time yesterday and 30% left going to bed that's Bluetooth and wifi on all day it's not bad.. If you have a playstation the remote play is pretty awesome too, i've noticed playing some games it's gets a bit hot but not for long, if your a flashaholic with custom roms though you'll be a tad frustrated at the mo
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King p1n said:
Not got either but are you interested in waiting for the 820 phones in a few months?
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Or that you are right.
Thing is, I am still within my Amazon return period and with less than 100 pounds more I could get the Z5 over the S6.
Question is, is it worth it?
The other thing to keep in mind is when you come to forums like this you usually only see posts about people with problems so it never paints a good picture the same can be said of any device, is it worth £100 more than your s6 not sure but defo worth considering
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I'm doing just this. I have an AT&T S6, and I'm less then impressed with the battery life and the RAM management. I ordered the Z5 from expansys-usa.com hoping it works better for my needs (had a nexus 6 but it was a bit to big and my brother wanted it for Christmas.
I always liked the software on my Z Ultra, was way to big though.
I'm just waiting on it to get in now (few weeks di to the song to my location).
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Or that you are right.
Thing is, I am still within my Amazon return period and with less than 100 pounds more I could get the Z5 over the S6.
Question is, is it worth it?
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Well I guess thats the beauty of Amazon, you could (Although tedious)
Return S6.
Buy Z5 and see If you like it If not return and rebuy S6?
I dunno lol.
Im tossing up between the Z5 and S6.
I don't think i can wait till next year, as I have a first gen Moto G
I can get the S6 for cheaper, Im not sure the Z5 is worth more with its hot 810.
Decisions will be made by the end of the month otherwise its going to be a tough few months surviving with lackluster Moto G
I've gone from the S6 to the Z5 and couldn't be happier.
Couldn't wait to get rid of the S6 and touchwiz, Christ I don't know what Samsung are thinking with that buggy battery sucking mess.
I (somehow) just downgraded from S6 to Z5, cause really cannot stand the S6 poor batt life.
I'm happy with Z5 camera speed, batt life but i really miss Samsung SideSync
Jumped from sammie i9205
used s6 and z5 or a week.
Winner - Z5
why? i like the design and battery.
You will read alot about problems with z5 but...
well i was samsung fan for many years.
Always was like" bleah wthell" when i was looking at xperia menu buttons.
- it turns out its not a waste of space -
its rly well designed and the buttons desaphere when they should and pop up back when they are needed. 3rd week - used it for games, browsing, google drive and office things, movies.
Its easier to hold z5 in 2 hands w/o pressing anything accidently. The space between screen and edge of phone is perfect for thumbs and the cam button - dmn i love it.
I always rooted / used roms for sammie phones. in Z5 - i unlocked it but than... well i stopped.
Yee yee u loose low light cam quality a little bit. i rly dont notice it. yea it piss me off that i lost some things from system ( even if i dont use them ).
Fingerprint scan is in a dmn good place. Took few days before i got used to new buttons locations.
Screen wont leave u with " hey mr pixel i see u there!" bad taste.
other things like specs and tests etc - are all over the place so i skip thatXD
( sorry for my bad eng
I'm also at the same boat as you, I currently using s6 edge for abt 3 monts now and I just received my Z5 dual 2 days ago. Just fyi I also have LG G4 which I use for ard 5 months. So my opinion will be based ard those 3 devices.
Well, I like the way Z5 handles, it feels balanced and easy to use one-handed, which strangely enough even my smaller s6edge is harder to use as my palm sometimes accidentally tap on the edge screen, and also the capacitive keys, where I believe both problems will not exist on regular s6.
I have a photography hobby, I use full-frame Nikon DSLR, but as they say, the best camera is the one in your pocket, which is my smartphone 99% of the time and the only thing holding me back is the camera quality on z5, when u compare side-by-size, then u zoomed in on the photos u will really notice how bad the image processing on the Z5, too many artifacts and the edges of the object is like its over sharpened, the result is quite similar to G4 but worse. S6 is much much better camera overall, clean pictures with minimal noise and great sharpness.
The worse part is it tends to affect people photos quite badly, which I use my smartphone to take pictures of most of the time, taking those precious moments of my 3yo, even when standing still the details is loss on z5, on the other hand G4 gets most details with most noise but S6 gets almost as much details as G4 without all the noise.
One more thing worth mentioning is that the time when u hit the shutter button until it actually captures the photos is quite slow, even in bright sunlight, I'm not sure whats happening there but I might try a factory reset to see if that helps. S6 is almost instant, while G4 is as fast as s6 in good light but when its not that bright it the worst of the three, it could take a full 2 seconds just to capture the photos.
I read from xda and some other sites that sony is planning on releasing new camera software with new UI, that is my last hope tbh, if that fixes the issue I'm having then I will definetely keep my Z5 as my primary phone. It doesnt have to get s6-quality but at least not this bad.
I'm using Rev.3 unit (stated on the box), some ppl get Rev.4 already which I also dont know what has improved. I'm also using the latest software which is 5.1.1 build no 32.0.A.6.152 model no E6683 (dual sim)
Tbh I will choose Z5 over s6 any day, I like everything about the Z5 over my s6edge / LG G4, well almost everything, the only single thing that holding me back is the picture quality, as I love photography and this is a huge compromise for me if I would choose the Z5.
Hope that helps your decision.
Keep experiences coming! Threads useful for somebody deciding between the S6 and Z5 also.
If only the 810 didnt ruin this years phones.
And if only the S6 had good battery.
Hows one handed use with the Z5? From dummy models the S6 would seem more comfortable, due to Z5's height.
What's the difference in rev on these phones mines only 5days old and days rev 2 I feel cheated lol
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got rev 2. Was similar to u - felt cheated. but... after i checked forums it turns out that rev 2 had less problems copmpared to 3-4 but imo - dont even look at rev.
Probably its as important for u as case color for antutu score.
i did the move from S6 to Z5 and overall im disappointed so far
the device heat to much
camera is slow and software on z5 is slower and less polished then s6
battery life is disappointing compared to Z3 and its almost on par with s6
i hope sony will fix all of the problems in the upcoming android 6 upgrade
Never owned a Samsung phone but have owned several Sony phones. Very happy with the Z5.
I am on the same boat. I am just thinking of to jump to the Z5 from s6.
But I had a z3+ and that was very underperforming, hot, laggy Snap 810.
And I am afraid of this hot 810 again. I know, the z5 have pipes to drive away the heat. But dunno.....
S6 camera is awesome, and I have never met a person who could say the z5 is better regarding the whole camera. And this is a shame .
Also I have to notice, the Z3's 6.0 concept sw is very good. BUT that would be nice if we could test it on z5. It could help us to make our best choice.
S6's fast charging is awesome too, and I love S6's health app. Booting speed is fastest in android era.
I am not sure about Sony. Will they keep their phone business, and if NO, will they stop SW upgrades ?
S6's big disappointment is the LAGGY interface, wrong multitasking becouse of bad ram management, battery life is terrible. But I have to notice, z3+ had ALL this wrong things too, and that was 810 SNAPPY too.

To Z5 or not to Z5

Hi,
I'm due for my upgrade and I have the option to upgrade from my Z2 to a Z5...
Should I? Or should I wait for the Z6?
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Honestly, I'd wait to see how good (or bad) Marshmallow will be on the Z5 before buying it. I have a Z5 and Marshmallow will decide if I sell it or keep it. If Marshmallow isn't better than Lollipop is, I'm not keeping that phone.
I do that change from Z2 to Z5 and im very happy, the z5, has a better battery, better camera i dont notice the overheating problem. If you can and want wait for the Z6 wait for it. But if you want a change do it. MM in Z3 is amost perfect, i supposed in Z5 it would be
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i think that you should wait Z5 is almost like Z3
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Honestly, I'd wait to see how good (or bad) Marshmallow will be on the Z5 before buying it. I have a Z5 and Marshmallow will decide if I sell it or keep it. If Marshmallow isn't better than Lollipop is, I'm not keeping that phone.
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+1 on this.
I just switched to a Z5 from a Z2 a little over a week ago and I have mixed feelings, though mostly good. Some background: I only switched because my Z2 has been crapping out lately with a seemingly corrupt data partition and reboot issues. I had a Z5 on hand which I had bought on eBay because the seller had it up for a really great deal plus a bunch of brand new unused accessories (originally just bought it to try it out and resell if I didn't want to upgrade), so I switched to it as a backup when my Z2 got totally borked just hours before I was leaving for vacation.
The Z5 is nice overall. The hardware is beautiful. It feels considerably lighter than the Z2, which is really great (but probably mostly thanks to the 300mAh less of battery juice ). It is a tad thinner and a little less wide, too, so it does have a better feel in my hand. I miss some specific custom rom features I have become used to, but not as many/much as I would have expected. Mostly I've found myself missing control over LED notification colors for every app, control over heads up notifications per-app, and the handy delete button on the notification when you take a screenshot (seriously didn't even realize that wasn't an AOSP feature). I know there are apps and Xposed modules for the first two things, but I've yet to successfully install Xposed on the phone without perpetual bootloops. Speaking of the notification LED, I do miss the more attractive in-speaker placement of the LED on the Z2 (Z5 just has a dot on the top-left corner of the glass), however, it is much easier to see it on the Z5 when laying flat on a table/desk since it's no longer dipped down in a cavity (which caused it to be blocked by the edge of the top glass panel on the Z2).
As far as the SD810 inside, I don't notice a big difference in the performance compared to the SD801 in the Z2, for my usage. The UI does run a bit more fluidly, but that may be because of the custom rom and/or other mods I had on my Z2 that I don't have on the Z5. I would say I'm a moderately heavy user, but mostly of less intense apps. I rarely play games on my phone and the only one I've played so far on the Z5 is Pocket Mortys, which has no 3D rendering. That said, it runs perfectly fine without lag, though I haven't played it for more than about 15 minutes at a time. The phone does heat up a bit, but not noticeably more than my Z2 or any other phone I've used. It doesn't ever feel hot during my regular usage.
The volume rocker position is weird, but not as inconvenient as you might expect. I actually don't mind it at all.
I very much like not having to open an annoying flap to plug in a USB cable.
The microSD slot is built into the SIM card tray, so you cannot remove the microSD without the phone rebooting itself because the SIM card was removed. You probably rarely have to do this, but it's something to note.
Not sure if it's just my unit, but the screen has a noticeable backlight bleed at the top. It's not a huge deal, but it can be bothersome if you're OCD like me. I usually stop noticing it, though. Also, the screen has this weird software quirk where it'll have REALLY high contrast for several seconds after turning the screen on. My guess is it's incorrectly reading ambient light and thinks it's really bright out. I think it should be fixable with a software update, but who knows if Sony will indeed fix it. This issue isn't a big deal either, but it's kind of annoying.
The camera quality is still crappy compared to every other flagship phone available. The post-processing seems to just soften everything and you get absolutely no micro detail in any textures or anything. The edges of objects blend into their backgrounds and there's no sharpness. It really sucks. Worse than my Z2. It's the software post-processing for sure, as Google Camera takes better photos across the board from what I've tested (I'm far from any kind of pro photog, though), but unfortunately it and every other camera app I've tried to use can't seem to read the camera lenses properly (it only has resolution options up to 8.1MP and the Google Camera viewfinder shows everything squeezed in disproportionately) and have a LONG shutter delay. It's honestly unacceptable IMO. I'm still searching for a camera app that doesn't suck on this phone... Fortunately, I don't take a lot of serious photos (I mostly just Snapchat stupid or funny things I see), but I was trying to do so more before my Z2 crapped out. This phone is making that difficult.
Another problem I as well as others on this forum have is bluetooth. My Z2 had no problems, but with the Z5, my Pebble will at some point start to lose connection constantly, which sometimes resolves on its own after a while or force me to reboot the phone to resolve it. It also sometimes doesn't connect automatically to my car's bluetooth, which is a huge pain while driving.
Apparently Xposed works on the phone, but I have yet to get it to install and boot properly. The guides on XDA say it need to bootloop "a few"/"2-3" times, but I have not had any luck waiting for several reboots. So that's something to consider if you like Xposed.
So as you can tell, in my experience, the worst things about the Xperia Z5 are software-related and hopefully might be fixed in the next update from Sony or in a custom ROM if someone releases one. There are some nice hardware improvements, but nothing worth using an upgrade or spending money on IMO (unless you reallly want a fingerprint sensor). I think it's worth waiting it out as long as your upgrade window doesn't expire. And if the Z5 doesn't get improved, at least it'll only be a couple more months until the Z6 is announced... :silly: And this is a point in the year where a bunch of exciting new devices are about to be announced, so I think it'd be worth your wait if you aren't completely committed to Sony phones.
Yes it's stylish reliable, has an awesome camera. You get a premium high powered phone hassle free with a great fingerprint scanner, be aware if you have come out of the shower or just washed hands the fingerprint scanner will be hit and miss but is not an issue.
+neonixxx, thanks for a great review
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+1 on this.
I just switched to a Z5 from a Z2 a little over a week ago and I have mixed feelings, though mostly good. Some background: I only switched because my Z2 has been crapping out lately with a seemingly corrupt data partition and reboot issues. I had a Z5 on hand which I had bought on eBay because the seller had it up for a really great deal plus a bunch of brand new unused accessories (originally just bought it to try it out and resell if I didn't want to upgrade), so I switched to it as a backup when my Z2 got totally borked just hours before I was leaving for vacation.
The Z5 is nice overall. The hardware is beautiful. It feels considerably lighter than the Z2, which is really great (but probably mostly thanks to the 300mAh less of battery juice ). It is a tad thinner and a little less wide, too, so it does have a better feel in my hand. I miss some specific custom rom features I have become used to, but not as many/much as I would have expected. Mostly I've found myself missing control over LED notification colors for every app, control over heads up notifications per-app, and the handy delete button on the notification when you take a screenshot (seriously didn't even realize that wasn't an AOSP feature). I know there are apps and Xposed modules for the first two things, but I've yet to successfully install Xposed on the phone without perpetual bootloops. Speaking of the notification LED, I do miss the more attractive in-speaker placement of the LED on the Z2 (Z5 just has a dot on the top-left corner of the glass), however, it is much easier to see it on the Z5 when laying flat on a table/desk since it's no longer dipped down in a cavity (which caused it to be blocked by the edge of the top glass panel on the Z2).
As far as the SD810 inside, I don't notice a big difference in the performance compared to the SD801 in the Z2, for my usage. The UI does run a bit more fluidly, but that may be because of the custom rom and/or other mods I had on my Z2 that I don't have on the Z5. I would say I'm a moderately heavy user, but mostly of less intense apps. I rarely play games on my phone and the only one I've played so far on the Z5 is Pocket Mortys, which has no 3D rendering. That said, it runs perfectly fine without lag, though I haven't played it for more than about 15 minutes at a time. The phone does heat up a bit, but not noticeably more than my Z2 or any other phone I've used. It doesn't ever feel hot during my regular usage.
The volume rocker position is weird, but not as inconvenient as you might expect. I actually don't mind it at all.
I very much like not having to open an annoying flap to plug in a USB cable.
The microSD slot is built into the SIM card tray, so you cannot remove the microSD without the phone rebooting itself because the SIM card was removed. You probably rarely have to do this, but it's something to note.
Not sure if it's just my unit, but the screen has a noticeable backlight bleed at the top. It's not a huge deal, but it can be bothersome if you're OCD like me. I usually stop noticing it, though. Also, the screen has this weird software quirk where it'll have REALLY high contrast for several seconds after turning the screen on. My guess is it's incorrectly reading ambient light and thinks it's really bright out. I think it should be fixable with a software update, but who knows if Sony will indeed fix it. This issue isn't a big deal either, but it's kind of annoying.
The camera quality is still crappy compared to every other flagship phone available. The post-processing seems to just soften everything and you get absolutely no micro detail in any textures or anything. The edges of objects blend into their backgrounds and there's no sharpness. It really sucks. Worse than my Z2. It's the software post-processing for sure, as Google Camera takes better photos across the board from what I've tested (I'm far from any kind of pro photog, though), but unfortunately it and every other camera app I've tried to use can't seem to read the camera lenses properly (it only has resolution options up to 8.1MP and the Google Camera viewfinder shows everything squeezed in disproportionately) and have a LONG shutter delay. It's honestly unacceptable IMO. I'm still searching for a camera app that doesn't suck on this phone... Fortunately, I don't take a lot of serious photos (I mostly just Snapchat stupid or funny things I see), but I was trying to do so more before my Z2 crapped out. This phone is making that difficult.
Another problem I as well as others on this forum have is bluetooth. My Z2 had no problems, but with the Z5, my Pebble will at some point start to lose connection constantly, which sometimes resolves on its own after a while or force me to reboot the phone to resolve it. It also sometimes doesn't connect automatically to my car's bluetooth, which is a huge pain while driving.
Apparently Xposed works on the phone, but I have yet to get it to install and boot properly. The guides on XDA say it need to bootloop "a few"/"2-3" times, but I have not had any luck waiting for several reboots. So that's something to consider if you like Xposed.
So as you can tell, in my experience, the worst things about the Xperia Z5 are software-related and hopefully might be fixed in the next update from Sony or in a custom ROM if someone releases one. There are some nice hardware improvements, but nothing worth using an upgrade or spending money on IMO (unless you reallly want a fingerprint sensor). I think it's worth waiting it out as long as your upgrade window doesn't expire. And if the Z5 doesn't get improved, at least it'll only be a couple more months until the Z6 is announced... :silly: And this is a point in the year where a bunch of exciting new devices are about to be announced, so I think it'd be worth your wait if you aren't completely committed to Sony phones.
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U can use ledblinker to control the led colour
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Better, unbiased review compared to reviewers across the internet.
I am also planning of replacing my Z2 to Z5. My Z2 still runs really well but i might be getting Z5 just for the sake of it being newer and has a fingerprint scanner and better camera. That may be a wrong move that would actually make me regret spending $700 just for the incremental changes. Im starting to doubt the camera's picture quality too. In addition to SD 810 heating issues.
Apart from Z5, I have my eyes on X Performance too.. Although shrinking the screen size and gaining a bit of a bulk, and lesser battery, I am not sure now.. Maybe waiting for the next Xperia flagship later this year.
I had an Samsung GalaxyS6 while I was trying to sell my Z2, and I didnt like it. I have developed this phobia with Touchwiz phones. They feel slooow, too cluttered, too much unnecessary features and apps. And battery was awful compared to my Z2. Although I believe camera performance was better.
Personally... My missus has the new Motorola X Force. It's am awesomely indestructible phone and i think I'd pick that over the Z5 after using both
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Hi there,
I went from Z1C to Z3C (was a very good and even a better device) and now I switched to Z5 (the 5.2"). I have to say, it is a good phone, but the difference is not that significant. As soon as the X performance comes I am going to change again..

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