Hi,
I'm due for my upgrade and I have the option to upgrade from my Z2 to a Z5...
Should I? Or should I wait for the Z6?
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Honestly, I'd wait to see how good (or bad) Marshmallow will be on the Z5 before buying it. I have a Z5 and Marshmallow will decide if I sell it or keep it. If Marshmallow isn't better than Lollipop is, I'm not keeping that phone.
I do that change from Z2 to Z5 and im very happy, the z5, has a better battery, better camera i dont notice the overheating problem. If you can and want wait for the Z6 wait for it. But if you want a change do it. MM in Z3 is amost perfect, i supposed in Z5 it would be
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i think that you should wait Z5 is almost like Z3
Phazonclash said:
Honestly, I'd wait to see how good (or bad) Marshmallow will be on the Z5 before buying it. I have a Z5 and Marshmallow will decide if I sell it or keep it. If Marshmallow isn't better than Lollipop is, I'm not keeping that phone.
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+1 on this.
I just switched to a Z5 from a Z2 a little over a week ago and I have mixed feelings, though mostly good. Some background: I only switched because my Z2 has been crapping out lately with a seemingly corrupt data partition and reboot issues. I had a Z5 on hand which I had bought on eBay because the seller had it up for a really great deal plus a bunch of brand new unused accessories (originally just bought it to try it out and resell if I didn't want to upgrade), so I switched to it as a backup when my Z2 got totally borked just hours before I was leaving for vacation.
The Z5 is nice overall. The hardware is beautiful. It feels considerably lighter than the Z2, which is really great (but probably mostly thanks to the 300mAh less of battery juice ). It is a tad thinner and a little less wide, too, so it does have a better feel in my hand. I miss some specific custom rom features I have become used to, but not as many/much as I would have expected. Mostly I've found myself missing control over LED notification colors for every app, control over heads up notifications per-app, and the handy delete button on the notification when you take a screenshot (seriously didn't even realize that wasn't an AOSP feature). I know there are apps and Xposed modules for the first two things, but I've yet to successfully install Xposed on the phone without perpetual bootloops. Speaking of the notification LED, I do miss the more attractive in-speaker placement of the LED on the Z2 (Z5 just has a dot on the top-left corner of the glass), however, it is much easier to see it on the Z5 when laying flat on a table/desk since it's no longer dipped down in a cavity (which caused it to be blocked by the edge of the top glass panel on the Z2).
As far as the SD810 inside, I don't notice a big difference in the performance compared to the SD801 in the Z2, for my usage. The UI does run a bit more fluidly, but that may be because of the custom rom and/or other mods I had on my Z2 that I don't have on the Z5. I would say I'm a moderately heavy user, but mostly of less intense apps. I rarely play games on my phone and the only one I've played so far on the Z5 is Pocket Mortys, which has no 3D rendering. That said, it runs perfectly fine without lag, though I haven't played it for more than about 15 minutes at a time. The phone does heat up a bit, but not noticeably more than my Z2 or any other phone I've used. It doesn't ever feel hot during my regular usage.
The volume rocker position is weird, but not as inconvenient as you might expect. I actually don't mind it at all.
I very much like not having to open an annoying flap to plug in a USB cable.
The microSD slot is built into the SIM card tray, so you cannot remove the microSD without the phone rebooting itself because the SIM card was removed. You probably rarely have to do this, but it's something to note.
Not sure if it's just my unit, but the screen has a noticeable backlight bleed at the top. It's not a huge deal, but it can be bothersome if you're OCD like me. I usually stop noticing it, though. Also, the screen has this weird software quirk where it'll have REALLY high contrast for several seconds after turning the screen on. My guess is it's incorrectly reading ambient light and thinks it's really bright out. I think it should be fixable with a software update, but who knows if Sony will indeed fix it. This issue isn't a big deal either, but it's kind of annoying.
The camera quality is still crappy compared to every other flagship phone available. The post-processing seems to just soften everything and you get absolutely no micro detail in any textures or anything. The edges of objects blend into their backgrounds and there's no sharpness. It really sucks. Worse than my Z2. It's the software post-processing for sure, as Google Camera takes better photos across the board from what I've tested (I'm far from any kind of pro photog, though), but unfortunately it and every other camera app I've tried to use can't seem to read the camera lenses properly (it only has resolution options up to 8.1MP and the Google Camera viewfinder shows everything squeezed in disproportionately) and have a LONG shutter delay. It's honestly unacceptable IMO. I'm still searching for a camera app that doesn't suck on this phone... Fortunately, I don't take a lot of serious photos (I mostly just Snapchat stupid or funny things I see), but I was trying to do so more before my Z2 crapped out. This phone is making that difficult.
Another problem I as well as others on this forum have is bluetooth. My Z2 had no problems, but with the Z5, my Pebble will at some point start to lose connection constantly, which sometimes resolves on its own after a while or force me to reboot the phone to resolve it. It also sometimes doesn't connect automatically to my car's bluetooth, which is a huge pain while driving.
Apparently Xposed works on the phone, but I have yet to get it to install and boot properly. The guides on XDA say it need to bootloop "a few"/"2-3" times, but I have not had any luck waiting for several reboots. So that's something to consider if you like Xposed.
So as you can tell, in my experience, the worst things about the Xperia Z5 are software-related and hopefully might be fixed in the next update from Sony or in a custom ROM if someone releases one. There are some nice hardware improvements, but nothing worth using an upgrade or spending money on IMO (unless you reallly want a fingerprint sensor). I think it's worth waiting it out as long as your upgrade window doesn't expire. And if the Z5 doesn't get improved, at least it'll only be a couple more months until the Z6 is announced... :silly: And this is a point in the year where a bunch of exciting new devices are about to be announced, so I think it'd be worth your wait if you aren't completely committed to Sony phones.
Yes it's stylish reliable, has an awesome camera. You get a premium high powered phone hassle free with a great fingerprint scanner, be aware if you have come out of the shower or just washed hands the fingerprint scanner will be hit and miss but is not an issue.
+neonixxx, thanks for a great review
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neonixxx said:
+1 on this.
I just switched to a Z5 from a Z2 a little over a week ago and I have mixed feelings, though mostly good. Some background: I only switched because my Z2 has been crapping out lately with a seemingly corrupt data partition and reboot issues. I had a Z5 on hand which I had bought on eBay because the seller had it up for a really great deal plus a bunch of brand new unused accessories (originally just bought it to try it out and resell if I didn't want to upgrade), so I switched to it as a backup when my Z2 got totally borked just hours before I was leaving for vacation.
The Z5 is nice overall. The hardware is beautiful. It feels considerably lighter than the Z2, which is really great (but probably mostly thanks to the 300mAh less of battery juice ). It is a tad thinner and a little less wide, too, so it does have a better feel in my hand. I miss some specific custom rom features I have become used to, but not as many/much as I would have expected. Mostly I've found myself missing control over LED notification colors for every app, control over heads up notifications per-app, and the handy delete button on the notification when you take a screenshot (seriously didn't even realize that wasn't an AOSP feature). I know there are apps and Xposed modules for the first two things, but I've yet to successfully install Xposed on the phone without perpetual bootloops. Speaking of the notification LED, I do miss the more attractive in-speaker placement of the LED on the Z2 (Z5 just has a dot on the top-left corner of the glass), however, it is much easier to see it on the Z5 when laying flat on a table/desk since it's no longer dipped down in a cavity (which caused it to be blocked by the edge of the top glass panel on the Z2).
As far as the SD810 inside, I don't notice a big difference in the performance compared to the SD801 in the Z2, for my usage. The UI does run a bit more fluidly, but that may be because of the custom rom and/or other mods I had on my Z2 that I don't have on the Z5. I would say I'm a moderately heavy user, but mostly of less intense apps. I rarely play games on my phone and the only one I've played so far on the Z5 is Pocket Mortys, which has no 3D rendering. That said, it runs perfectly fine without lag, though I haven't played it for more than about 15 minutes at a time. The phone does heat up a bit, but not noticeably more than my Z2 or any other phone I've used. It doesn't ever feel hot during my regular usage.
The volume rocker position is weird, but not as inconvenient as you might expect. I actually don't mind it at all.
I very much like not having to open an annoying flap to plug in a USB cable.
The microSD slot is built into the SIM card tray, so you cannot remove the microSD without the phone rebooting itself because the SIM card was removed. You probably rarely have to do this, but it's something to note.
Not sure if it's just my unit, but the screen has a noticeable backlight bleed at the top. It's not a huge deal, but it can be bothersome if you're OCD like me. I usually stop noticing it, though. Also, the screen has this weird software quirk where it'll have REALLY high contrast for several seconds after turning the screen on. My guess is it's incorrectly reading ambient light and thinks it's really bright out. I think it should be fixable with a software update, but who knows if Sony will indeed fix it. This issue isn't a big deal either, but it's kind of annoying.
The camera quality is still crappy compared to every other flagship phone available. The post-processing seems to just soften everything and you get absolutely no micro detail in any textures or anything. The edges of objects blend into their backgrounds and there's no sharpness. It really sucks. Worse than my Z2. It's the software post-processing for sure, as Google Camera takes better photos across the board from what I've tested (I'm far from any kind of pro photog, though), but unfortunately it and every other camera app I've tried to use can't seem to read the camera lenses properly (it only has resolution options up to 8.1MP and the Google Camera viewfinder shows everything squeezed in disproportionately) and have a LONG shutter delay. It's honestly unacceptable IMO. I'm still searching for a camera app that doesn't suck on this phone... Fortunately, I don't take a lot of serious photos (I mostly just Snapchat stupid or funny things I see), but I was trying to do so more before my Z2 crapped out. This phone is making that difficult.
Another problem I as well as others on this forum have is bluetooth. My Z2 had no problems, but with the Z5, my Pebble will at some point start to lose connection constantly, which sometimes resolves on its own after a while or force me to reboot the phone to resolve it. It also sometimes doesn't connect automatically to my car's bluetooth, which is a huge pain while driving.
Apparently Xposed works on the phone, but I have yet to get it to install and boot properly. The guides on XDA say it need to bootloop "a few"/"2-3" times, but I have not had any luck waiting for several reboots. So that's something to consider if you like Xposed.
So as you can tell, in my experience, the worst things about the Xperia Z5 are software-related and hopefully might be fixed in the next update from Sony or in a custom ROM if someone releases one. There are some nice hardware improvements, but nothing worth using an upgrade or spending money on IMO (unless you reallly want a fingerprint sensor). I think it's worth waiting it out as long as your upgrade window doesn't expire. And if the Z5 doesn't get improved, at least it'll only be a couple more months until the Z6 is announced... :silly: And this is a point in the year where a bunch of exciting new devices are about to be announced, so I think it'd be worth your wait if you aren't completely committed to Sony phones.
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Better, unbiased review compared to reviewers across the internet.
I am also planning of replacing my Z2 to Z5. My Z2 still runs really well but i might be getting Z5 just for the sake of it being newer and has a fingerprint scanner and better camera. That may be a wrong move that would actually make me regret spending $700 just for the incremental changes. Im starting to doubt the camera's picture quality too. In addition to SD 810 heating issues.
Apart from Z5, I have my eyes on X Performance too.. Although shrinking the screen size and gaining a bit of a bulk, and lesser battery, I am not sure now.. Maybe waiting for the next Xperia flagship later this year.
I had an Samsung GalaxyS6 while I was trying to sell my Z2, and I didnt like it. I have developed this phobia with Touchwiz phones. They feel slooow, too cluttered, too much unnecessary features and apps. And battery was awful compared to my Z2. Although I believe camera performance was better.
Personally... My missus has the new Motorola X Force. It's am awesomely indestructible phone and i think I'd pick that over the Z5 after using both
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Hi there,
I went from Z1C to Z3C (was a very good and even a better device) and now I switched to Z5 (the 5.2"). I have to say, it is a good phone, but the difference is not that significant. As soon as the X performance comes I am going to change again..
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Hi people of XDA, I think I'm going to buy this phone tomorrow, and I want to hear your impressions after use.
I've used it in a local dealer, but I'm afraid of that glass breaking, I've read so much about it... and I've seen people have been careful with it, and it still breaks... What about gaming performance and heat? Have you played intensive games where the phone was very hot? Has anything happened to glass?
So are there any cons that you know? I'm stunned by phone's look. Ex Arc owner hiihihi
I'm really happy with my phone! The battery is amazing and it handles games like a champ. No heating problems or cracked glass, but I'm using a case so don't know if it would be the same without it.
My only complaint would be low audio output with headphones because I like my music loud.
My only complaint is theres still no built in call blocker and unlike my note 4 theres no caller name readout, so you know whos calling you.
Yes the phone could be louder in headphones but atleast It is a improvement on previous Z series and even the Xperia S & T.
The DSEE HX really helps with loudness, as does using the MDR-NC31EMs or my Beats Mixrs.
Happy but there is a small part of me that wishes i went with the compact version! Dont get me wrong, I much prefer the larger screen and its obviously better if watching videos / youtube or even just web browsing. However its a tad awkward to use one handed when on the move outdoors because of its size where as the compact felt much better in hand and felt alot less likely to drop/slip from my grip (when i tested it out in store)
I expected a little more from the camera especially when it comes to detail but none the less its a good camera. Battery life is excellent to so all in all iam happy
Oh and for the person that mentioned 'call blocker' . Theres an option to send a choosen number to voicemail which is pretty similar to blocking the number i think. Also if you use the textra app you can now block incoming sms
If you like installing custom ROM's, i'd avoid Sony. That said, my thoughts;
The phone is very fast, and has a super bright screen, although it's much too blue. Speakers are loud but inconsistent. Camera is good but not amazing.
Compared to my previous phone, M8, i'd say this is faster with much better battery life, but speakers, camera and screen, as well as the puny LED flash which is useless make this phone a little disappointing.
Disclaimer : I am very very picky, so while this phone isn't of the quality of the M8, the glass won't break on it's own, and you won't regret it unless you've had an M8 lol.
Playdough96 said:
I'm really happy with my phone! The battery is amazing and it handles games like a champ. No heating problems or cracked glass, but I'm using a case so don't know if it would be the same without it.
My only complaint would be low audio output with headphones because I like my music loud.
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Do you mind if I ask you what case you are using? Thanks.
Hustlervanz said:
Do you mind if I ask you what case you are using? Thanks.
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http://www.krusellcases.com/uk/p_krusell_product.aspx?i=265580
Bought this one from a store here in Sweden the first day i got my phone. There were no other ones and it looked good and sturdy. Good price too.
Another minor flaw thats a little annoying for me also is that iam finding auto brightness to be crap! The display is too bright in dark settings and to dim in bright settings unless i manually adjust!
I've had it for one week, and I'm very satisfied. I changed from a Z and everything is much better, lighter, brighter screen (I can see it under direct sunlight), usable in wet conditions.
The only bad thing I can say about it is that I can't root it without unlocking the bootloader, at least for now (I like to remove all the Google and Sony bloatware).
I've had my 6603 model for two days. Maybe the honeymoon is still going, but I really love this phone. I did manage to scratch the rear glass already. No cases in USA yet and Amazon backorders them into November after you buy one that shows " in stock". After the past year with Nexus 5, and looking at how the Nexus 6 is whale sized the Xperia Z3 was the only semi stock device I could find that met my needs/wants. I'm thrilled with it.
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NFC not working
The phone is great! apart from the NFC only working sporadically.
It only works if i push on the back where the NFC makes contact. It used to work fine for the first week so not sure why the NFC module isnt making contact to the main board.
Anybody else having this issue?
I bought my first Sony smart phone and its Z3 last week. Till now its working great and i have seen no issues just one when using 3G or LTE signals get dropped. Same issue is coming in nexus 5 too. Other than this its very very fine smart phone. Look and feel is good Battery time is awesome and most importantly there in no lag. I switched from galaxy S4 so i am feeling this difference a lot.
I have the phone for a week or 2-3 now and still happy verry with it. Biggest downside is no root and the camera could be a bit better... Coming from a Z1 (and Lumia 930 in between) just about everything is an improvement, screen, build, speed, the whole package. Just hope development will set off soon for the Z3 (again, root mainly).
The phone does get hot when playing games (even candycrush) but that's just what phones do. No issues with glass so far here *knocks on wood*.
I've had this phone since September 26th. I came from an iPhone 5 (i know, I been missing out) and i'm kinda amazed!
There are a few things though:
1. As mentioned by someone before, i'm having issues while it's switching between 3- and 4G. And additionally while it's switching from WiFi to 3/4G. There are spots possibly up to ~15 seconds without any connection.
2. I'm using a cover, but the back got scratches inside the cover, by miniature particles, so I'm guessing it's not too scratch resistant.
3.First I set it up following the set up instructions, and setting everything up with syncs and whatnot. I wasn't too impressed by the battery life when I had it like that, so I did a factory reset and set it up a bit more cautiously, switched stamina mode on and boom, easily the best battery life I ever had!
Over all I'm loving the phone though, reading the news in the shower every morning, no worries about whipping it out in the rain, watching tv-series on the metro in wonderful quality, without noticeable battery drops. No crashes yet, the ps4 remote play to come. The list is long!
I guess what I'm saying is that having had an iPhone since my HTC desire was pensioned I secretly missed android all along, and what a great device this is for a comeback ?
Great phone.. Coming from an LG G2, I miss the thin bezels.
Also miss development for it.
No regrets. Z1 - Z2 - Z3
I'm considering in purchasing a xperia z3 D6603. I will be coming from the new 2015 moto x pure which I can't put my finger on it but something about the phone I don't like. I know the mot x pure is a brand new phone with brand new specs so why would i downgrade to an older device? I've always sparked interest in the Sony line of devices. The z5 is just way to expensive for me. I'm still in the 14 day return period for the moto x pure and thinking of returning it and ordering a xperia z3. Does the z3 already have 5.1.1 lollipop ota? And which varient of the z3 is the more supported version?. I'm from the u.s but looking in the android dev thread it looks like the D6603 is the more supported version.
Any thoughts and issues with the device?
Thanks in advance
I think you should
It's an awesome piece of device. I bought mine 6 months ago knowing that there will be newer flagships such as the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge or the upcoming Sony Xperia Z5 and so on. Despite the newer flagships on the market, I still consider this unit at top notch. Sure it has no fingerprint sensor like the 2 that I mentioned, but nonetheless, it's a handsome piece of device. As for the OTA update, I'm not quite sure if it is available there in the US.. But I'm pretty sure with PC Companion, you can update yours easily. Not to mention that the upcoming Android Marshmallow or Android M for Sony will be released before the year ends. Just watch out for dead pixels; those are the common defects I read about on the internet.
I just bought my Z3 a few days ago... My G4 screen died and I decided to get an older device. Like you I had the same issue with the G4... Great device but there was just something about it I just cant get away with, i think it mightve been the clunky interface or the whole G4 package just seemed to much.. Im not sure.
However, Im happy with the Z3.. I also looked at the M9 as Im a bit of a Media lover, but for me the Camera on the M9 just hadnt improved enough to warrant the cash... Yes ok, the speakers on the M9 do give a richer fuller sound than the Z3, but the ones on the Z3 are not to be ignored. They can lack bass and mid-range, sounding a bit tinny at times, but for me it was... Great speakers, Awesome camera, great battery of the Z3 Or Amazing speakers, awful Camera and ok battery of the M9.. The Z3 won... plus I like alot of the Apps that come on the Z3, which save me having to download extra apps to waste more battery, such as:
A podcast App built strainght into the Walkman player
Google Newstand and Xperia lounge for news, music and a few interesting things.
Sony Video
A built-in FM Radio
and Love it oir Hate it... Sonys LifeLog.
The speakers are Loud but again can lack richness.
A great all round package... and even though its very square.. It looks quite cool as well and a nice dearture from all the Samsung sheep walking around.
Here in UK, we have LP 511, but just hope SONY survive with the Z5... Their mobile devision hangs in the balance here.
Z3 is a great device.. ide recommend it to anyone
I bought this phone 3 months ago, and it is an awesomely great looking phone with good specs... I except more from the camera, but the design is outstanding to me... You'll see what i mean when you have this phone, especially the copper colour. Multitasking is great, it is comfortable to hold, the speaker is awesome but sometimes it is a bit low, especially when watching on YouTube., it is fast, no stutter what so ever, except in lockscreen which is frequently stuttered (it is a new bug, haven't discovered this in 5.0.2), low light and outdoor camera is very good, it is very rigid to me, especially if you use tempered glass screen protector on both front and back, the battery is great,but the performance is a bit reduced since. 200 update and later..
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I'm about to buy that phone next week. Is it still a problem with camera after rooting? I don't know much about it, that's why I'm asking.
Definitely worth it. Esp the price is low now. I have Z3, my brother the S6 and he is thinking of switching to a Z3 too. Mainly bec of the battery, waterproofness, SD Card slot, front speakers and practically everything else except maybe the screen amd fingerprint scanner. If fingerscanner is a must i advised him to get tge Z5, but the price is still quite high.
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I bought the xperia z3 a few days ago and i have no regrets. The battery, sleek UI and design is what makes this phone amazing and the community on the Z3 forums on xda are one of my favourites so far
I'm mostly interested in good battery life, little to no lag, a good camer and a decent/good screen (not that interested in 4K).
All in all, it sounds like the Z5 is a very good choice.
What do you guys think?
Xperia Z5 hasn't been too good of an experience for me. It gets pretty warm even during light web browsing, battery life isn't up to par for me, and the display and the camera is definitely worse (in most areas) than the Galaxy S6. I'd say keep your Galaxy S6.
All the inverse for me...
Xz5 is a killer.
Better manufacture quality
More true color display and photo
Plus PSN synchro
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The thing that gets to me with the S6 is the battery, and also the app lag after a while... :/ That's why I am thinking of moving on really.
Not got either but are you interested in waiting for the 820 phones in a few months?
I've had a lot of phones and this z5 is right up there as an oem phone (not rooted) Its the best I've had little things like battery percentage, clear all apps button, battery management tools all Inc I've mixed feelings because battery life isn't as good as my nexus was, but last day or so I've tinkered with stamina mode with the battery and that's made a big difference to me about 3 hrs 30 min screen on time yesterday and 30% left going to bed that's Bluetooth and wifi on all day it's not bad.. If you have a playstation the remote play is pretty awesome too, i've noticed playing some games it's gets a bit hot but not for long, if your a flashaholic with custom roms though you'll be a tad frustrated at the mo
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Not got either but are you interested in waiting for the 820 phones in a few months?
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Or that you are right.
Thing is, I am still within my Amazon return period and with less than 100 pounds more I could get the Z5 over the S6.
Question is, is it worth it?
The other thing to keep in mind is when you come to forums like this you usually only see posts about people with problems so it never paints a good picture the same can be said of any device, is it worth £100 more than your s6 not sure but defo worth considering
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I'm doing just this. I have an AT&T S6, and I'm less then impressed with the battery life and the RAM management. I ordered the Z5 from expansys-usa.com hoping it works better for my needs (had a nexus 6 but it was a bit to big and my brother wanted it for Christmas.
I always liked the software on my Z Ultra, was way to big though.
I'm just waiting on it to get in now (few weeks di to the song to my location).
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evak2979 said:
Or that you are right.
Thing is, I am still within my Amazon return period and with less than 100 pounds more I could get the Z5 over the S6.
Question is, is it worth it?
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Well I guess thats the beauty of Amazon, you could (Although tedious)
Return S6.
Buy Z5 and see If you like it If not return and rebuy S6?
I dunno lol.
Im tossing up between the Z5 and S6.
I don't think i can wait till next year, as I have a first gen Moto G
I can get the S6 for cheaper, Im not sure the Z5 is worth more with its hot 810.
Decisions will be made by the end of the month otherwise its going to be a tough few months surviving with lackluster Moto G
I've gone from the S6 to the Z5 and couldn't be happier.
Couldn't wait to get rid of the S6 and touchwiz, Christ I don't know what Samsung are thinking with that buggy battery sucking mess.
I (somehow) just downgraded from S6 to Z5, cause really cannot stand the S6 poor batt life.
I'm happy with Z5 camera speed, batt life but i really miss Samsung SideSync
Jumped from sammie i9205
used s6 and z5 or a week.
Winner - Z5
why? i like the design and battery.
You will read alot about problems with z5 but...
well i was samsung fan for many years.
Always was like" bleah wthell" when i was looking at xperia menu buttons.
- it turns out its not a waste of space -
its rly well designed and the buttons desaphere when they should and pop up back when they are needed. 3rd week - used it for games, browsing, google drive and office things, movies.
Its easier to hold z5 in 2 hands w/o pressing anything accidently. The space between screen and edge of phone is perfect for thumbs and the cam button - dmn i love it.
I always rooted / used roms for sammie phones. in Z5 - i unlocked it but than... well i stopped.
Yee yee u loose low light cam quality a little bit. i rly dont notice it. yea it piss me off that i lost some things from system ( even if i dont use them ).
Fingerprint scan is in a dmn good place. Took few days before i got used to new buttons locations.
Screen wont leave u with " hey mr pixel i see u there!" bad taste.
other things like specs and tests etc - are all over the place so i skip thatXD
( sorry for my bad eng
I'm also at the same boat as you, I currently using s6 edge for abt 3 monts now and I just received my Z5 dual 2 days ago. Just fyi I also have LG G4 which I use for ard 5 months. So my opinion will be based ard those 3 devices.
Well, I like the way Z5 handles, it feels balanced and easy to use one-handed, which strangely enough even my smaller s6edge is harder to use as my palm sometimes accidentally tap on the edge screen, and also the capacitive keys, where I believe both problems will not exist on regular s6.
I have a photography hobby, I use full-frame Nikon DSLR, but as they say, the best camera is the one in your pocket, which is my smartphone 99% of the time and the only thing holding me back is the camera quality on z5, when u compare side-by-size, then u zoomed in on the photos u will really notice how bad the image processing on the Z5, too many artifacts and the edges of the object is like its over sharpened, the result is quite similar to G4 but worse. S6 is much much better camera overall, clean pictures with minimal noise and great sharpness.
The worse part is it tends to affect people photos quite badly, which I use my smartphone to take pictures of most of the time, taking those precious moments of my 3yo, even when standing still the details is loss on z5, on the other hand G4 gets most details with most noise but S6 gets almost as much details as G4 without all the noise.
One more thing worth mentioning is that the time when u hit the shutter button until it actually captures the photos is quite slow, even in bright sunlight, I'm not sure whats happening there but I might try a factory reset to see if that helps. S6 is almost instant, while G4 is as fast as s6 in good light but when its not that bright it the worst of the three, it could take a full 2 seconds just to capture the photos.
I read from xda and some other sites that sony is planning on releasing new camera software with new UI, that is my last hope tbh, if that fixes the issue I'm having then I will definetely keep my Z5 as my primary phone. It doesnt have to get s6-quality but at least not this bad.
I'm using Rev.3 unit (stated on the box), some ppl get Rev.4 already which I also dont know what has improved. I'm also using the latest software which is 5.1.1 build no 32.0.A.6.152 model no E6683 (dual sim)
Tbh I will choose Z5 over s6 any day, I like everything about the Z5 over my s6edge / LG G4, well almost everything, the only single thing that holding me back is the picture quality, as I love photography and this is a huge compromise for me if I would choose the Z5.
Hope that helps your decision.
Keep experiences coming! Threads useful for somebody deciding between the S6 and Z5 also.
If only the 810 didnt ruin this years phones.
And if only the S6 had good battery.
Hows one handed use with the Z5? From dummy models the S6 would seem more comfortable, due to Z5's height.
What's the difference in rev on these phones mines only 5days old and days rev 2 I feel cheated lol
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got rev 2. Was similar to u - felt cheated. but... after i checked forums it turns out that rev 2 had less problems copmpared to 3-4 but imo - dont even look at rev.
Probably its as important for u as case color for antutu score.
i did the move from S6 to Z5 and overall im disappointed so far
the device heat to much
camera is slow and software on z5 is slower and less polished then s6
battery life is disappointing compared to Z3 and its almost on par with s6
i hope sony will fix all of the problems in the upcoming android 6 upgrade
Never owned a Samsung phone but have owned several Sony phones. Very happy with the Z5.
I am on the same boat. I am just thinking of to jump to the Z5 from s6.
But I had a z3+ and that was very underperforming, hot, laggy Snap 810.
And I am afraid of this hot 810 again. I know, the z5 have pipes to drive away the heat. But dunno.....
S6 camera is awesome, and I have never met a person who could say the z5 is better regarding the whole camera. And this is a shame .
Also I have to notice, the Z3's 6.0 concept sw is very good. BUT that would be nice if we could test it on z5. It could help us to make our best choice.
S6's fast charging is awesome too, and I love S6's health app. Booting speed is fastest in android era.
I am not sure about Sony. Will they keep their phone business, and if NO, will they stop SW upgrades ?
S6's big disappointment is the LAGGY interface, wrong multitasking becouse of bad ram management, battery life is terrible. But I have to notice, z3+ had ALL this wrong things too, and that was 810 SNAPPY too.
Hey all,
So I got the Z5 recently and while it's a very nice phone, I'm a bit bummed by the battery not being as stellar as I'd have hoped. I had a Z3c last year and loved it for the battery but didn't dig the small size and the camera was a bit maddening...
That said, the Z5 has some benefits but I'm debating if they're 2x the cost benefits (used Z3's appear to be going for ~300 while the Z5 was ~600). Have people figured out the camera/has it gotten any updates since last year to make it less slow at focus and muddy overprocessed shots? Also, how's the battery life on LP these days? Maybe I should keep the Z5 and sit tight for MM...
It sounds like the Z5 has the better camera, fingerprint sensor and the 810 going for it. Not sure if it's worth the price upgrade over the Z3. The Z3 is still a solid device.
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I would say don't give up. Though there are definitely some give and take either way. The S810 if definitely a hot one even with the dual heat pipes.
Though if or when there is root a slight under clock could help.
Though I agree it's not hundreds better than the Z3 and the battery life definitely took a bit of a hit. As far as camera don't expect much from an update. You will have to use manual modes or a good alternative camera app.
My question for you is did the speakers on the Z5 improve in quality and/or volume? Not sure if the z3c sound the same as the z3 though.
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I would say don't give up. Though there are definitely some give and take either way. The S810 if definitely a hot one even with the dual heat pipes.
Though if or when there is root a slight under clock could help.
Though I agree it's not hundreds better than the Z3 and the battery life definitely took a bit of a hit. As far as camera don't expect much from an update. You will have to use manual modes or a good alternative camera app.
My question for you is did the speakers on the Z5 improve in quality and/or volume? Not sure if the z3c sound the same as the z3 though.
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As far as z3c to z5 speakers go, it's a huge jump. They're almost as loud as the Nexus 6P and definitely really clear.
I think I'm probably gonna hang on because it's getting me through most days fine as long as I don't do a bunch of navigation or a ton of podcast listening. And hopefully Doze will make things even easier. That said, I'll probably be all over the z7 with the 820 in it.
Hey everyone i just want to know is xzp better option then s8?
Is Xzp good interms of rom development and future software support?
Hello . no doubt you should buy the premium xz. all videos on YouTube shows that the xz premium is faster than the s8.
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Hey everyone i just want to know is xzp better option then s8?
Is Xzp good interms of rom development and future software support?
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roms? dont know about that mate, but speed its faster, also nicer screen, although the design of the s8 is better, but the XZP feels snappier, better screen, and overall just out performs the s8 in almost every corner
but in terms of rom developing this isnt the best phone I can tell you that, I dont know if things will change after android Pie is out, but nothing is sure, I hope though
but I would definatly say the S9 is better, has a better camera, screen that is also great, better design, feels better and more stylish
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Hey everyone i just want to know is xzp better option then s8?
Is Xzp good interms of rom development and future software support?
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As far as official software support, Pie is the last Android XZP will get.
If you're switching from S8 in hope of getting longer software support, then XZ2/XZ2P might be a better choice for you.
As far as XZP vs S8 goes, it's difficult to say which phone is better, depends what you're looking for.
S8 has a better camera and more software toys and gadgets. However, that's the primary reason why I steer clear from Samsung and LG-the software. I've dealt with months old S8s and S9s that had lag and freezing issues, bad battery life and random shutdowns. It's behaviour I haven't seen in a single Xperia for the last five years. They just simply work, and they're built like tanks for the most part.
The second reason why I keep rocking Sony is the battery life. The first phone that got me through two days without a charge with normal usage was the Z3, and that's where I got hooked and stayed with Sony.
Xperias are just as flawed as any other brand, it's just a matter of what you're looking for.
If I needed the best camera phone on the market, I'd go for Pixel, for example.
Bottom line, if you're considering Xperia and the budget allows it, rather go for XZ2 lineup. I'm looking at the XZ2, bit I just can't stomach the design of it. Had it in my hand, it just feels odd to me, unlike XZ2P even though it's bigger. Probably a matter of being used to really slim Xperias.
As far as custom rom support goes, I'd guess the Samsung scene is richer, but then again, since I started using Sony, I stopped rooting and flashing custom roms, I just don't see the need for it. The OEM software is very clean and debloated, you can further disable stuff you don't need and you get quick monthly updates, I have yet to see a compelling reason to root it and flash a custom rom, considering my needs.
Good luck
Cheers
Went from always having Samsungs to risking it and buying an XZ Premium. I'd say don't get the XZP, to be honest. The camera is good on paper, but it's actually pretty bad compared to my Note 7. Low light is terrible. A lot of these devices (including mine) have intermittent WiFi connection issues and piss poor screen share stability with a lot of lag.
I dropped my Note 7 loads of times and it was fine. Dropped this once and the screen is all scraped. I'm going back to Samsung soon.
Future software support isn't looking good either.
Have a look at how cheap these phones are on eBay already. People are finding them hard to sell
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Went from always having Samsungs to risking it and buying an XZ Premium. I'd say don't get the XZP, to be honest. The camera is good on paper, but it's actually pretty bad compared to my Note 7. Low light is terrible. A lot of these devices (including mine) have intermittent WiFi connection issues and piss poor screen share stability with a lot of lag.
I dropped my Note 7 loads of times and it was fine. Dropped this once and the screen is all scraped. I'm going back to Samsung soon.
Future software support isn't looking good either.
Have a look at how cheap these phones are on eBay already. People are finding them hard to sell
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I dont know about camera man, I tried it with my friend he has a s8 and i have xzp, unless he uses manual settings, mine on auto is better, on manual his can get pretty good only slightly better even in low light, but not enough to concider switching... in terms of dropping phone I dont know about you man, my phone dropped multiple times and I was amazed how I barely see scratches (fell like 5 heavy drops with no case on) there are drop marks on the frame of the phone but thats all. I agree wifi connection HAD issues but it was due to software bugs but now its all good.
future software support, we are confirmed to get the Android Pie, concidering the phone comes android 7 out of the box, that is 2 major updates already and we might even get the third as in after android Pie, the updates start to roll form Google them selves rather than each phone's manufacture. (I am not sure if all phones, or only the ones that come android 8 out of the box tho)
the only thing or two someone would put the S8 better than the XZP is the design and sometimes camera (not in all cases tho).
In terms of speed, no lags in the long run, battery life, screen (in terms of realistic and not colorful, as some people think the s8 is better but its only more saturated but the XZP is more realistic and has 4k HDR), the XZP is the clear winner, heck my brother has he s9+ and I still have better battery life even on 4K mode!
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Hey everyone i just want to know is xzp better option then s8?
Is Xzp good interms of rom development and future software support?
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I have a friend with the s8 and he really want to have the same device like me because the xz premium is a beast , more smooth , faster than s8 better screen , camera , battery etc
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I dont know about camera man, I tried it with my friend he has a s8 and i have xzp, unless he uses manual settings, mine on auto is better, on manual his can get pretty good only slightly better even in low light, but not enough to concider switching... in terms of dropping phone I dont know about you man, my phone dropped multiple times and I was amazed how I barely see scratches (fell like 5 heavy drops with no case on) there are drop marks on the frame of the phone but thats all. I agree wifi connection HAD issues but it was due to software bugs but now its all good.
future software support, we are confirmed to get the Android Pie, concidering the phone comes android 7 out of the box, that is 2 major updates already and we might even get the third as in after android Pie, the updates start to roll form Google them selves rather than each phone's manufacture. (I am not sure if all phones, or only the ones that come android 8 out of the box tho)
the only thing or two someone would put the S8 better than the XZP is the design and sometimes camera (not in all cases tho).
In terms of speed, no lags in the long run, battery life, screen (in terms of realistic and not colorful, as some people think the s8 is better but its only more saturated but the XZP is more realistic and has 4k HDR), the XZP is the clear winner, heck my brother has he s9+ and I still have better battery life even on 4K mode!
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Some fair points there, but my WiFi and lagging screen mirroring problems are still there - same with a hell of a lot of other people. If you ever have this issue, you'll soon find people flooding forums demanding that Sony give them refunds or fix the problem, since the updates didn't fix the issue at all.
I can see why you would defend the phone though. I loved it at first, but now on reflection after using it for around 8 months, I'd personally go for something else next time. Constant WiFi signal drops are getting pretty annoying.
Sony's Xperia division doesn't exactly have a good reputation for reliability, and I'm beginning to see why. And this is coming from someone you could probably call a Sony "fanboy". I think I'll stick to their PlayStations and headphones!
In terms of specs they are similar, but xz premium software is much closer to stock android.
I'm on a xz premium .and the lineage15 .1. It's very good combination . Fast smooth . 4k is here with a little procedure. s8 is slow compared to xz premium. here the applications opens instantly. the video proves that the original xz is faster than the s8. slightly. so better. after only your choice is important.
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Some fair points there, but my WiFi and lagging screen mirroring problems are still there - same with a hell of a lot of other people. If you ever have this issue, you'll soon find people flooding forums demanding that Sony give them refunds or fix the problem, since the updates didn't fix the issue at all.
I can see why you would defend the phone though. I loved it at first, but now on reflection after using it for around 8 months, I'd personally go for something else next time. Constant WiFi signal drops are getting pretty annoying.
Sony's Xperia division doesn't exactly have a good reputation for reliability, and I'm beginning to see why. And this is coming from someone you could probably call a Sony "fanboy". I think I'll stick to their PlayStations and headphones!
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like yah im not saying XZP is the best phone and after trying sony for a while i think there are better options out there, but i wouldnt go for the S8, I would go for S9 to feel a worthful upgrade, or google pixel, or iphone X