hi, as the title says, im currently looking for a new phone, but im still confused, which one is better, the sony Xperia Z3 or the HTC one M8. Maybe you guys can give your opinions here and help me decide which one is better
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azirr said:
hi, as the title says, im currently looking for a new phone, but im still confused, which one is better, the sony Xperia Z3 or the HTC one M8. Maybe you guys can give your opinions here and help me decide which one is better
thanks
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Before this gets locked, i'd say, I preferred my M8. Speakers, build quality, camera and screen. Z3 is waterproof though, and a nice shape.
azirr said:
hi, as the title says, im currently looking for a new phone, but im still confused, which one is better, the sony Xperia Z3 or the HTC one M8. Maybe you guys can give your opinions here and help me decide which one is better
thanks
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I've used the m8 for about 3 months and the Z3 for maybe 3 weeks now and while they are close I'd have to say the Z3 is the better phone in many areas. The camera is no contest, the phone is just as snappy and the UI is great. The m8 has better speakers but the Z3 for most purposes is just as good. The battery life is much better on the Z3 and in my opinion the screen is a lot nicer and that extra real estate though not that much on paper is certainly noticeable. I love the camera shutter button and don't miss the IR from the m8 since I have no problem reaching for the remote control one foot away from me. The sound is louder through headphones on the m8 which is my only gripe really. Both feel very premium, I wouldn't rate one over the other, they're just two different types of premium (metal vs glass). The glass feels great, though the m8 is more comfortable to hold, but when the phones are past a certain threshold for size I think comfort in hand is all relatively the same anyways, aka I have no problems handling this phone and didn't think the m8 was significantly better other than mild comfort from the curve. That's about it, if I had to recommend to any friends I would hands down tell them they're getting better bang for the buck with the Z3 especially after the ps4 screen share update arrives. If you have any other comparison questions just ask away!
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Before this gets locked, i'd say, I preferred my M8. Speakers, build quality, camera and screen. Z3 is waterproof though, and a nice shape.
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oh sorry, i just found out the device suggestion thread. thanks for your suggestion btw!
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I've used the m8 for about 3 months and the Z3 for maybe 3 weeks now and while they are close I'd have to say the Z3 is the better phone in many areas. The camera is no contest, the phone is just as snappy and the UI is great. The m8 has better speakers but the Z3 for most purposes is just as good. The battery life is much better on the Z3 and in my opinion the screen is a lot nicer and that extra real estate though not that much on paper is certainly noticeable. I love the camera shutter button and don't miss the IR from the m8 since I have no problem reaching for the remote control one foot away from me. The sound is louder through headphones on the m8 which is my only gripe really. Both feel very premium, I wouldn't rate one over the other, they're just two different types of premium (metal vs glass). The glass feels great, though the m8 is more comfortable to hold, but when the phones are past a certain threshold for size I think comfort in hand is all relatively the same anyways, aka I have no problems handling this phone and didn't think the m8 was significantly better other than mild comfort from the curve. That's about it, if I had to recommend to any friends I would hands down tell them they're getting better bang for the buck with the Z3 especially after the ps4 screen share update arrives. If you have any other comparison questions just ask away!
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thank you for your very informative suggestion, im more leaning to z3 now after reading your sugestion! do you know what earphone around below 50$ that suits with the z3? since the bundled earphone is just sucks from what i heard.
While I don't own a m8 my cousin does but I do own a Z3 for a week now and apart from the louder/bassier stereo speakers (Z3 is still good enough) and the louder audio in headphones on the m8 (again Z3 is still good enough especially when using DSEE HX and the noise cancelling headphones and also has better Equalizer presets).
The Z3 is the better phone imo especially for camera/video, battery life, screen, look/feel/design is subjective but I much prefer the Z3 in this department and it is waterproof too and that has come handy in the last week alone.
I'd agree on getting the Z3 (although this is the Sony thread). Both are well built and have quality screens, but I prefer the larger battery and camera over the M8's. Although the speakers could be better, I believe there was a mod called DSEE HX that amplifies the speakers on the Z3. Overall, it relies on what your needs are. They both look good so you wouldn't lose either way. As this is based on opinions, I'd go for the Z3 because it is the newer model and its design is so sleek. Sense is pretty, but I'm all about Sony's stock look and feel. If those don't really matter to you, I guess you would decide whether or not you take more pictures or listen to more music.
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While I don't own a m8 my cousin does but I do own a Z3 for a week now and apart from the louder/bassier stereo speakers (Z3 is still good enough) and the louder audio in headphones on the m8 (again Z3 is still good enough especially when using DSEE HX and the noise cancelling headphones and also has better Equalizer presets).
The Z3 is the better phone imo especially for camera/video, battery life, screen, look/feel/design is subjective but I much prefer the Z3 in this department and it is waterproof too and that has come handy in the last week alone.
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I'd agree on getting the Z3 (although this is the Sony thread). Both are well built and have quality screens, but I prefer the larger battery and camera over the M8's. Although the speakers could be better, I believe there was a mod called DSEE HX that amplifies the speakers on the Z3. Overall, it relies on what your needs are. They both look good so you wouldn't lose either way. As this is based on opinions, I'd go for the Z3 because it is the newer model and its design is so sleek. Sense is pretty, but I'm all about Sony's stock look and feel. If those don't really matter to you, I guess you would decide whether or not you take more pictures or listen to more music.
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thanks for your opinion guys! i think i have made up my decision now
What did you decide? I'm trying to decide if the z3 camera and battery life are enough of an improvement from my m8 to switch. I generally love the m8, but I HATE the camera. All my pictures are washed out with tons of glare from any light source.
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I just trade up my Htc m8 for the sony Z3 by using my T-mobile jump program.. I am really luving this phone man ?.I love how you really have alot of options..my biggest worry is dropping the phone and breaking the glass front or back...i really do not like covers on my phone..i think it take the beauty out of them..beside i pay
the extra $10 a month issuance ?
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This thread had helped me make my decision to grab a Z3 today. I was on the fence in using Jump! to switch from my M8. I'll be going to T-Mo during lunch. Thanks to everyone for the input here.
I had an m8, I switched it for the z3 and I did everything I could to get it back again. Android development for z3 hasn't even begin, speaker quality is bad, the ui feels outdated and less responsive, camera besides x reality treatment in viewing is slow and inconsistent, the price is too high. Get an m8 which is superior in almost every aspect (m8's camera is mediocre too) or a z2 which is much cheaper and offers almost the same.
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I had an m8, I switched it for the z3 and I did everything I could to get it back again. Android development for z3 hasn't even begin, speaker quality is bad, the ui feels outdated and less responsive, camera besides x reality treatment in viewing is slow and inconsistent, the price is too high. Get an m8 which is superior in almost every aspect (m8's camera is mediocre too) or a z2 which is much cheaper and offers almost the same.
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You don't think the camera is much better? It seems like it wouldn't take much to beat the m8 there.
I wish I could try it out and get my m8 back if I didn't like it. Tmobile doesn't allow that though.
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Had M8 and now have Z3. Both are great phones. Camera isn't that bad on the M8. Especially if you just use it for social media.
Things I miss on the M8 are the IR Blaster and Blinkfeed.
Things I don't miss on the M8 are the power button on the top of the phone and the inability to swipe or double tap screen to unlock while sitting on a flat surface. You have to move the phone or it has to be in your hand on the M8. Z3 does not require that. Also, the curved back makes it rock if you wanna use the phone on a hard surface.
They both feel very comfortably to hold. Although the M8 was a bit slippery when it was brand new. Both have great speakers, and screen. Build quality is equal to me but the Z3 is a bit lighter so the M8 has little more of a solid feel in your hand.
Oh, and one of the most important thing. The battery life is a lot better on the Z3. After the first charge, I got over 6.5 hours of screen time. I expect it to get better after a few more charges. Most I could get out of the M8 was barely 5 hours.
There are tips in m8' s topic which make its camera decent even for printing photos.. It can even get better than z3's in some aspects in my opininion. Z3 has indeed better battery life, and x reality engine can make colours pop out from the screen, if you like such an effect. That's it for me, everything else is better on m8. And keep in mind that z2 is now much cheaper.
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This thread had helped me make my decision to grab a Z3 today. I was on the fence in using Jump! to switch from my M8. I'll be going to T-Mo during lunch. Thanks to everyone for the input here.
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If you go to buy, ask to test the device first, they will open the packaging for it.
Look for the following:
-Frame being bent outward or toward LCD <- Mine had that
-Light bleed between frame and LCD <- Mine had that
-Pink spots in camera <- Mine had that (barely noticeable but diffuse)
-Pressure test to ensure, water tightness
-Test speakers as some are getting major stereo mismatch in loudness.
I unfortunately, could not test, and since I preordered, I cannot exchange in store had to mail mine back.
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azirr said:
hi, as the title says, im currently looking for a new phone, but im still confused, which one is better, the sony Xperia Z3 or the HTC one M8. Maybe you guys can give your opinions here and help me decide which one is better
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when you ask about Z3 in z3 forum it means more will vote for z3
1 important thing i can say about Xperia devices is durability
beside this there is more ram and awesome camera and better design
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definitely z3 for me. the last time i had a htc one m7, it died on me after just barely after a year. i was also having a lot of software issues with it. purple tint, battery depleting fast and auto shut down. that was my last htc phone.
z3 got my attention with the battery life.
thanks for all of your opinions guys!! helped me alot. im going for the z3 but its not available yet in my country, so i have to wait for a couple more weeks to have it
I have both a Z3 D6603 and a HTC M8 Developer Edition. I really like the UI on the Sony a lot. Its a tough choice. The Copper color Z3 is awesome and a nice change from the gold devices by all the rest.
I do like the extra battery, more ram, and x-reality on the Z3, however; I can convert my m8 to a GPE and get Android L much quicker than we will get it on the Z3. By the time the Z3 gets Android L, then HTC will launch it as well (both promise within 90 days of release) and I can throw that on my m8.
I am more concerned with the lack of development on the Z3 and Sony's DRM Bootloader crap. I know the device was just released but so has a boat load of other devices and which ones with ultimately get the Dev Love ?
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Hey guys! I currently have the HTC One M8 and it has served me well. I'm looking for a new phone as my contract has finally finished! The Z3 looks like a hell of a good phone. Are there any personal experiences and compelling reasons to get a Z3? Let me know about anything from the build to the software.
Thanks guys!
The Z3 has a better camera and much better battery life. The speakers on the M8 are slightly cleaner/louder and audio output from M8 audio jack is cleaner/louder as well, hardware audio tests confirm that but it slso depends on your ears and Sony has better audio features to compensate on the software side. As for the UI HTC Sense is my favorite but Sony is somewhat similar to Google stock which I like as well, its not laggy like TouchWiz. My dad has the M8, its also a great device but I feel the Z3 is a more well rounded phone.
The only reason not to buy this phone is the new S810 based phones coming next year will be a big jump from the S600/S800/801 based phones both CPU/GPU/power efficiency wise.
I was in a similar situation where I swapped my Galaxy S5 for a Xperia Z3. Overall, the change has been for the better, but there are no major differences in how the phone is used. Sony's UI leans more towards stock while HTC and Samsung uses their respective Sense and Touchwiz UIs. The Xperia Z3 is amazing and a great phone for everyday use. There is no lag and the build quality is awesome. I dropped my d6603 on four occasions and there were no dents, but my tempered glass did crack. So in this case, it is beautiful and durable.
If your new contract with a new provider requires a different phone, then go for it. If you can still use the HTC M8, you'd probably be better off waiting. Honestly, I wouldn't recommend getting a Z3 if your HTC one M8 works fine and is in good condition. As stated, this is my personal opinion since these phones are the same tier but just a different skinned UI. If you could hold off and wait, the Xperia Z4, Galaxy S6, and LG G4 should be announced soon and you can see if there are any major upgrades. If money is no option and you will be upgrading again soon, then you can purchase a Z3 because the price would be much cheaper than what you'd pay now.
Whatever your choice, best of luck and hope you enjoy your decision.
Hi guys!
I know this is great phone but im sure there must be some weakness, could you guys tell me why not to buy this phone?
I'm currently weighing it up, to me the device is ideal but my only worry is the cracking glass back. That's a concern I have at the moment. Also it's niggling that a new z4 is just around the corner or so we are told.
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No IR blaster
Glass front & back (more fragile)
No removable battery
Loss of functions if you root
It's a bit chunky
Lack of custom rom support
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To me the device is perfect !
The only weakness is the glass back. I Dropped it today and got a little crack on the back. Nothing serious though, it is just a small crack that is hardly visible.
An other feature that I don't like but I believe some will consider it as an advantage is that when you open the last picture you took from the camera app and swipe left and right it will show all the pictures on your album even the pictures you didn't took with the camera (like internet download for example).
Thanks! the info, if u guys could recommend a phone instead Z3 what would it be?
[This is just curious im gonna buy this phone since i cant buy htc for now i dont want samsung either i could chose g3 but ik dat z3 is way better]
Maybe a LG G3 or Iphone 6
The Z3 is a well rounded phone and does well in all aspects, only let down by the "auto" mode of the camera. If you can live with that minor flaw definately buy it, its what the M8 should have been.
The alternatives that I would pick are the:
M8 (Cleaner audio output via jack and speakers, and free one time glass replacement if it breaks)
LG G2/G3 I personally like my G2 better than the G3, the G3 takes great pics and has the best audio scores audio scores (hardware testing of the jack input) but let down by lower contrast, power hungry QHD screen when compared to the G2.
I would recommend the GS5/Note4 but I just hate TouchWiz too much.
My mom has an iPhone 6, its good but overrated, battery life definitely sucks compared to the Z3, and is too locked down to iTunes for my taste.
M8 or G2/G3.
G3 would be my choice. Cant get it, as I have company phone and therefore didn't get the choice. It was either Z3 or S5
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Well first and foremost you cant carry the phone nude why is that well because it sometimes moves on its own when I keep it on my computer table almost like magic and I had to replace the back glass because of a crack that I have no idea how it sustained the dam crack. There is a purplish spot in my camera pictures I have cleaned and cleaned the lens without any progress sony people say its a software issue and adjusted my camera settings but its still not gone. The front glass has a small scratch on it already I am still waiting for the screen guard but getting a scratch so early is just sad seems this glass is not all that tough. Compared to my M8 it is an upgrade but not by much the speakers of my M8 are still better (Bass), I had wrongly thought that the Z3 was louder based on the vibrations that I could feel compared to the M8.
That is about it all in all its a camera upgrade from the M8 not a thing more or less specially considering the Asian M8 had the 2.5Ghz 801.
Note: I also wanted to add low light shot performance of Z3 is just a bit shy of the M8, yes the higher ISO does add more noise but its a great trade off "Pixcilation vs Noise"
I'd go M8 or S5 if you don't mind Samsung skin.
Hi guys,
I am in much need of feedback...
Currently, I have the OnePlus One, and am liking it very much.
The endless customizations options and very good build quality especially.
However, I would like a change, and the smaller size of the Z3 is what I am after.
Anyone here came from OnePlus ??
Thanks in advance.
D.
I came from the OnePlus only because mine had gremlins :'( i prefer the Z3 though, better camera + camera modes, better battery life, only downside is no developers for it + no root with LB
I don't have an OnePlus One but I have compared my Z3 to a couple of my friend's. Let me tell you that it feels completely different. The Z3 fits in the hand a lot nicer than the OnePlus One. Also, there is no comparison between the aesthetics. If you are looking for a smaller size and prefer the stock feel of Sony's UI, then I would consider this phone. The battery is amazing on the Z3, but I've heard the same about the OnePlus One from my friends and through some reviews.
A couple disadvantages would be that the phone cannot be rooted and there aren't many developers because of this (without losing bootloader). Some say that their phone is not waterproof, but I have had no issues so that may be something you want to get checked out. There is also the glass back which is very slippery. Most of my drops have been through my phone sliding off tables if they are slanted just because of how smooth the glass back is. I'd definitely recommend a case or tempered glass for your phone if you do purchase.
What you get in the overall package is design, a beautiful screen, nicer camera, and slightly better battery (depends on usage). Although it is pricey, the phone is solid and worth it imo. I have dropped mine on four occasions with tempered glass on both sides and my phone did not dent or shatter (only my tempered glass did).
If there is no reason for you to switch, I would just keep the OnePlus One because phones are expensive X_X. Otherwise, there are other alternatives to a Z3 if you just want a smaller phone. For other options, I would recommend the Nexus 5 or HTC One M8. Only reason to go for a Z3 is if you prefer its design over the competitors. I do get a lot of comments about my phone's beauty and similarity to an iphone.:laugh:
I know this is long, but I hope it helps. Best of luck in your search!
I came from a OnePlus. But i kept it judt in case.
Overall tge Z3 is a great device. But there are a few things that you may want to consider when getting it, as i have learnt now.
1. No Root (Without comprimise) - This is number one for me. Coming from a line of nexus devices i was so suprised to see how difficult it would be to get this on the Z3 without comprimise. I unfortunately didnt do my research before hand.
2. Low dev support - Well compared to the One Plus and nexus 5 anyway which also suprised me. I thought considering the amount of support Sony gives the community this might be different, but alas.
3. Internal Memory - This is my biggest one. I personally thought i could get away with just 16gb and for the most part i am. But the difference is i have to consider it alot more than i did with the one plus one. I have a 64gb OnePlus and also a 64gb memory card in my Xperia which stores all of my music, but things like apps and such do not install on the memory card. So you just have to watch your internal memory more carefully.
4. The phone is slippery as hell - My advice would be to get a thin case and a tempered glass screen protector because this phone is very slippery. On flat surfaces it's a scare, especially when listening to music with a bit of bass, it has a mind of it's own.
But other than the three issues i have highlighted, as has been said before the phone is awesome. Screen, battery life, camera all top the OnePlus in My opinion. You won't be loosing out. But just consider the above and more to help yourself make an informative decision.
Hope this is helpful.
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I came from the OnePlus only because mine had gremlins :'( i prefer the Z3 though, better camera + camera modes, better battery life, only downside is no developers for it + no root with LB
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Agreed! In my opinion the Z3 is way better than the OPO but for sw mood and root. I love AOSP and CM, but Sony customisation is very very stable and consistent.
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ryanraven said:
I came from the OnePlus only because mine had gremlins :'( i prefer the Z3 though, better camera + camera modes, better battery life, only downside is no developers for it + no root with LB
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Yeah, the no developers bit is what kills me, im really considering going back to the note with the jump I have available. The sound is amazing and the camera looks real good but its hard to go back to stock after being spoiled by xposed
I'm considering in purchasing a xperia z3 D6603. I will be coming from the new 2015 moto x pure which I can't put my finger on it but something about the phone I don't like. I know the mot x pure is a brand new phone with brand new specs so why would i downgrade to an older device? I've always sparked interest in the Sony line of devices. The z5 is just way to expensive for me. I'm still in the 14 day return period for the moto x pure and thinking of returning it and ordering a xperia z3. Does the z3 already have 5.1.1 lollipop ota? And which varient of the z3 is the more supported version?. I'm from the u.s but looking in the android dev thread it looks like the D6603 is the more supported version.
Any thoughts and issues with the device?
Thanks in advance
I think you should
It's an awesome piece of device. I bought mine 6 months ago knowing that there will be newer flagships such as the Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge or the upcoming Sony Xperia Z5 and so on. Despite the newer flagships on the market, I still consider this unit at top notch. Sure it has no fingerprint sensor like the 2 that I mentioned, but nonetheless, it's a handsome piece of device. As for the OTA update, I'm not quite sure if it is available there in the US.. But I'm pretty sure with PC Companion, you can update yours easily. Not to mention that the upcoming Android Marshmallow or Android M for Sony will be released before the year ends. Just watch out for dead pixels; those are the common defects I read about on the internet.
I just bought my Z3 a few days ago... My G4 screen died and I decided to get an older device. Like you I had the same issue with the G4... Great device but there was just something about it I just cant get away with, i think it mightve been the clunky interface or the whole G4 package just seemed to much.. Im not sure.
However, Im happy with the Z3.. I also looked at the M9 as Im a bit of a Media lover, but for me the Camera on the M9 just hadnt improved enough to warrant the cash... Yes ok, the speakers on the M9 do give a richer fuller sound than the Z3, but the ones on the Z3 are not to be ignored. They can lack bass and mid-range, sounding a bit tinny at times, but for me it was... Great speakers, Awesome camera, great battery of the Z3 Or Amazing speakers, awful Camera and ok battery of the M9.. The Z3 won... plus I like alot of the Apps that come on the Z3, which save me having to download extra apps to waste more battery, such as:
A podcast App built strainght into the Walkman player
Google Newstand and Xperia lounge for news, music and a few interesting things.
Sony Video
A built-in FM Radio
and Love it oir Hate it... Sonys LifeLog.
The speakers are Loud but again can lack richness.
A great all round package... and even though its very square.. It looks quite cool as well and a nice dearture from all the Samsung sheep walking around.
Here in UK, we have LP 511, but just hope SONY survive with the Z5... Their mobile devision hangs in the balance here.
Z3 is a great device.. ide recommend it to anyone
I bought this phone 3 months ago, and it is an awesomely great looking phone with good specs... I except more from the camera, but the design is outstanding to me... You'll see what i mean when you have this phone, especially the copper colour. Multitasking is great, it is comfortable to hold, the speaker is awesome but sometimes it is a bit low, especially when watching on YouTube., it is fast, no stutter what so ever, except in lockscreen which is frequently stuttered (it is a new bug, haven't discovered this in 5.0.2), low light and outdoor camera is very good, it is very rigid to me, especially if you use tempered glass screen protector on both front and back, the battery is great,but the performance is a bit reduced since. 200 update and later..
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I'm about to buy that phone next week. Is it still a problem with camera after rooting? I don't know much about it, that's why I'm asking.
Definitely worth it. Esp the price is low now. I have Z3, my brother the S6 and he is thinking of switching to a Z3 too. Mainly bec of the battery, waterproofness, SD Card slot, front speakers and practically everything else except maybe the screen amd fingerprint scanner. If fingerscanner is a must i advised him to get tge Z5, but the price is still quite high.
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I bought the xperia z3 a few days ago and i have no regrets. The battery, sleek UI and design is what makes this phone amazing and the community on the Z3 forums on xda are one of my favourites so far
Hey all,
So I got the Z5 recently and while it's a very nice phone, I'm a bit bummed by the battery not being as stellar as I'd have hoped. I had a Z3c last year and loved it for the battery but didn't dig the small size and the camera was a bit maddening...
That said, the Z5 has some benefits but I'm debating if they're 2x the cost benefits (used Z3's appear to be going for ~300 while the Z5 was ~600). Have people figured out the camera/has it gotten any updates since last year to make it less slow at focus and muddy overprocessed shots? Also, how's the battery life on LP these days? Maybe I should keep the Z5 and sit tight for MM...
It sounds like the Z5 has the better camera, fingerprint sensor and the 810 going for it. Not sure if it's worth the price upgrade over the Z3. The Z3 is still a solid device.
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I would say don't give up. Though there are definitely some give and take either way. The S810 if definitely a hot one even with the dual heat pipes.
Though if or when there is root a slight under clock could help.
Though I agree it's not hundreds better than the Z3 and the battery life definitely took a bit of a hit. As far as camera don't expect much from an update. You will have to use manual modes or a good alternative camera app.
My question for you is did the speakers on the Z5 improve in quality and/or volume? Not sure if the z3c sound the same as the z3 though.
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I would say don't give up. Though there are definitely some give and take either way. The S810 if definitely a hot one even with the dual heat pipes.
Though if or when there is root a slight under clock could help.
Though I agree it's not hundreds better than the Z3 and the battery life definitely took a bit of a hit. As far as camera don't expect much from an update. You will have to use manual modes or a good alternative camera app.
My question for you is did the speakers on the Z5 improve in quality and/or volume? Not sure if the z3c sound the same as the z3 though.
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As far as z3c to z5 speakers go, it's a huge jump. They're almost as loud as the Nexus 6P and definitely really clear.
I think I'm probably gonna hang on because it's getting me through most days fine as long as I don't do a bunch of navigation or a ton of podcast listening. And hopefully Doze will make things even easier. That said, I'll probably be all over the z7 with the 820 in it.