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Alternatives to the Note 3

I have loved and used Samsung phones since I switched from HTC's fuze.
I had a Captivate, a Galaxy S, Note, Galaxy S3 and was planning on getting a Note 3. The Captivate and Note where grey imports and the Note 3 was going to be one. Another thing that I liked is that you could flash the latest rom from any region and use the modem from your region, did this with all of them.
Now with all the bootloader locking, Knox warning after rooting and now region locking it's very doubtful I'll get the Note 3.
Now this thread is here not to defend the Note 3, or to rant and vent against Samsung, but to provide alternatives to it. It should be a better phone that the Note 1
What would you recommend or what are you planning on doing?
Any recommendation should be unlockable, flashable and rootable as Samsung's phones USED to be.
So, do you guys have any thoughts on the following phones? Pros, cons against the Note 3?
HTC One Max? When will this phone be announced and available?
Sony's Xperia Ultra?
$769.50 Unlocked
Pros: Bigger screen
Cons:
No stylus
No flash on the back
Glass on the back
Screen seems to pick up scratches if you use a pencil and touch is not pressure sensitive. See Ericka Griffin's review
Note 8
$477.50 3G Unlocked
$589.50 LTE Unlocked
Pros:
Even bigger screen
Cons:
Probably would need a BT handset like Sony's SBH52 or Samsung HM5000 Pen Type Bluetooth 3.0 Headset
Outdated S3 hardware and lowres screen
Note 3 Developer's edition
Has anyone used the Note 2 Dev edition? Pros, cons?
Cons:
Really don't know if this will be available, and if it becomes available what capabilities it will or won't have.
So, any thoughts?

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jgaviota said:
I have loved and used Samsung phones since I switched from HTC's fuze.
I had a Captivate, a Galaxy S, Note, Galaxy S3 and was planning on getting a Note 3. The Captivate and Note where grey imports and the Note 3 was going to be one. Another thing that I liked is that you could flash the latest rom from any region and use the modem from your region, did this with all of them.
Now with all the bootloader locking, Knox warning after rooting and now region locking it's very doubtful I'll get the Note 3.
Now this thread is here not to defend the Note 3, or to rant and vent against Samsung, but to provide alternatives to it. It should be a better phone that the Note 1
What would you recommend or what are you planning on doing?
Any recommendation should be unlockable, flashable and rootable as Samsung's phones USED to be.
So, do you guys have any thoughts on the following phones? Pros, cons against the Note 3?
HTC One Max? When will this phone be announced and available?
Sony's Xperia Ultra?
$769.50 Unlocked
Pros: Bigger screen
Cons:
No stylus
No flash on the back
Glass on the back
Screen seems to pick up scratches if you use a pencil and touch is not pressure sensitive. See Ericka Griffin's review
Note 8
$477.50 3G Unlocked
$589.50 LTE Unlocked
Pros:
Even bigger screen
Cons:
Probably would need a BT handset like Sony's SBH52 or Samsung HM5000 Pen Type Bluetooth 3.0 Headset
Outdated S3 hardware and lowres screen
Note 3 Developer's edition
Has anyone used the Note 2 Dev edition? Pros, cons?
Cons:
Really don't know if this will be available, and if it becomes available what capabilities it will or won't have.
So, any thoughts?
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I don't see them releasing a developer edition for this phone as much as I would get one it is all about the Spen in Samsungs eyes but you never know

How are Sony's, HTC's and LG's attitudes to rooting now?

Acer Liquid S2 looks very interesting.
Almost same great specs as Note 3:
snapdragon 800 quad core 2.2, Adreno 330, 13mp camera (4K video rec), 1080p Corning Gorilla Glass (lcd) display, 2gb ram.
but with larger screen 6", 4 led ring flash (powerful flashlight), stereo speakers, microSD, up to 128 GB, and... fm radio!
Lte support: 800 / 1800 / 2600.
They haven't published a weight for it yet. No Knox or Region lock! I'm guessing hoping an unlocked boot loader! I have a new crush!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317

keeping my note 2 and buying the refreshed version of this W3 Windows x86 Desktop OS tablet for 280$
http://www.staples.com/Acer-ICONIA-W3-810-1600-81-32GB-Tablet/product_48343
because no phone or phablet will be 8.1" in display size
or have a real desktop OS that runs .exe files
and just use it in tandem using my note 2 to tether unlimited verizon 4G to the windows tablet. and keep the note 2 for calls, messages, notifications, GPS.
both in either pocket.

I was SO getting a Note3 to replace my Note2 as quickly as possible but recent events have turned me off and I'm in no hurry whatsoever anymore. I'm going to sit tight and follow how things develop.
If you're into Samsung have a look at the Mega which I had for about a week. It was really nice but I ended up returning it because when I set the brightness to 100% it would often "auto-dim" due to overheating.
Right now I'm keeping my Note2 but have actively started to look at other brands (I'm only one person and Samsung could care less about my business, but if bad reputation spreads things could change quickly).

Personally the only other phone alternative I would consider is HTC Max which I think is being launched on 15th Oct.
both ultra and mega are sluggish in comparison to Note 3 so a no no for me, and mega is plastic. Note 3 is lovely phone with good features but the beast is caged in cheap looking plastic and the bezel is ugly. The design has put me off somewhat but I love the features. So not sure what I'll do with it I've been offered iPhone 5s 64gb to swap, I'm considering it.

Xperia Z Ultra is the best alternatives.

How about HTC One MAX which will be coming soon?

Fact of the matter is none of the other large size screen phones are considered alternatives to the Note. An alternative or a substitute is something that fulfills the same benefit. Even now after two years of launching the note, there is no phone that provides you with same or equivalent multi tasking features and the S-pen.
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The Xperia Z Ultra is too big with the bezels. I had it for awhile. And it scratches so easily.
If I wasn't getting the Note 3 it would be the LG G2. Nice big display and fast. I also had it for awhile to test. Great phone.

The Oppo N1 is the only interesting phablet alternative.

yes +1 for Oppo N1.
http://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_n1-review-990.php

Tubgirl said:
I was SO getting a Note3 to replace my Note2 as quickly as possible but recent events have turned me off and I'm in no hurry whatsoever anymore. I'm going to sit tight and follow how things develop.
If you're into Samsung have a look at the Mega which I had for about a week. It was really nice but I ended up returning it because when I set the brightness to 100% it would often "auto-dim" due to overheating.
Right now I'm keeping my Note2 but have actively started to look at other brands (I'm only one person and Samsung could care less about my business, but if bad reputation spreads things could change quickly).
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riz157 said:
Personally the only other phone alternative I would consider is HTC Max which I think is being launched on 15th Oct.
both ultra and mega are sluggish in comparison to Note 3 so a no no for me, and mega is plastic. Note 3 is lovely phone with good features but the beast is caged in cheap looking plastic and the bezel is ugly. The design has put me off somewhat but I love the features. So not sure what I'll do with it I've been offered iPhone 5s 64gb to swap, I'm considering it.
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Regarding the Galaxy Mega, Samsung missed a HUGE (pun intended) opportunity with that device. I checked it out in person at an AT&T store. The first thing I thought was 'Holy Jesus, this thing is huge' (and i'm a pretty big guy, but even I was surprised at the size). The second thing I thought as I played with it was how laggy it was. I know they were just testing the waters, but they went too low-spec with that device. I think people like us (nerds and technophiles) could deal with the lower-res screen and the plastic feel of the phone, but the internals of the device killed it. If they had done slightly better specs (I'm talking maybe Note 2 range) and a slightly smaller screen (6"), there would have been people jumping all over that phone.
That being said, if they come out with a Galaxy Mega 2 next year that is actually speedy and a little bit smaller, then I might seriously consider buying one.

After a quick research I decided that I will wait for HTC ONE Max,My experience with my old HTC HD2 ,which is still my backup device,is very good.

Ascend Mate?
I used Huawei Ascend Mate for a while. It's a pretty good device, quad core, 2GB RAM, 6.1 inch, nice screen, good quality, and the price also. (I paid 350 euros for it in France, which is very cheap compared to the 750 euro price tag of the Note3). The cons were, only 8GB of inner storage (there's a slot for external SD card though), no stylus (this bothered me the most), not really good camera, and -well it isn't really important to every user- no custom software development. Rootable, so u can at least remove the bloatware. I've heard about some MIUI custom ROM for it, though, but never tried it.

hagba said:
After a quick research I decided that I will wait for HTC ONE Max,My experience with my old HTC HD2 ,which is still my backup device,is very good.
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Good luck. They botched the launch of the One and now the One Mini whose design (at least in China) the One Max shares. Not to mention their precarious financial condition.
azzerc said:
Hi guys.
I have recently upgraded to the HTC One Mini and I have to say that I'd love this handset if it wasn't for the fact that the plastic edge/chassis keeps cracking. I am on my second handset as Vodafone were happy enough to replace my first one when I reported this issue to them but it has happened again on my second. These small cracks were not there when I first got either of the two handsets but seemed to appear after a few days of use. I have been back to the store again and they will replace the handset or let me change to a different model/brand so there is no issue there. My question are: Has anyone else had this issue? As I can't seem to find any info on other instances. And, Does it's big brother the HTC One have the same issue as I may upgrade to that?
Cheers guys any info would be appreciated.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45061270#post45061270
HTC Corp is facing supply constraints on its latest smartphone, sources familiar with the matter said, piling pressure on already disappointing sales and increasing the likelihood the firm will post its first net loss this quarter.
The problems with the HTC One Mini, launched in mid-July to generally positive reviews, come partly from a casing shortage arising from design difficulties that are crimping production rates, one of the sources said.
The casing troubles come hot on the heels of shortages associated with the flagship HTC One model's camera module, indicating the Taiwanese company is still struggling to overcome supply chain difficulties which delayed the One's full launch and contributed to a record low first-quarter net profit.
Another source said consumer and telecom demand for the One Mini could not be met at the moment, even though analysts estimate that the company plans to ship only around 200,000 of the devices each month.​
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/24/htc-shortage-idUSL4N0HK18P20130924

BarryH_GEG said:
Good luck. They botched the launch of the One and now the One Mini whose design (at least in China) the One Max shares. Not to mention their precarious financial condition.
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who knows my humble contribution may help them with their finacial situation!,besides since I dont have a marriage arrangment with Samsung I see no harm in flirting around a bit!!.

Galaxy Note 2 hands down.

Coming from an HTC ONE, worth it?

I've had the HTC One since launch and have loved it so far...but when I heard about the Nexus 5, I ordered one. But now I'm having second thoughts, You guys think it's worth upgrading?

Darkne0 said:
I've had the HTC One since launch and have loved it so far...but when I heard about the Nexus 5, I ordered one. But now I'm having second thoughts, You guys think it's worth upgrading?
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Bro im on your boat, im receiving my nexus 11/06, im sure its worth it 100%, the only thing that worries me are the speakers. other than that better screen better cpu.

I actually went from the HTC One to the Moto X, and now my Nexus 5 is coming on Thursday. For me, I never really used the speakers on the One, so personally that point (and really one of the only ones that the HTC One has on the N5, outside the aluminum chassis) doesn't matter too much for me.
For me, the Moto X was actually a more enjoyable phone to use than the One. I think it's the whole stock android experience that just makes me happier to use my phone. I did put AOSP on my One, but I did go back to Sense just because I wanted the IR to work at the time. I just sold my One the other day to fund my N5 purchase.

I ordered the Nexus 5 because of it being future-proof and it gets the Android updates first. I absolutely love my One and I will probably miss the speakers more than anything. Besides the speakers on the One, I have no regrets in ordering the Nexus 5.

Darkne0 said:
I've had the HTC One since launch and have loved it so far...but when I heard about the Nexus 5, I ordered one. But now I'm having second thoughts, You guys think it's worth upgrading?
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What makes you think better screen? Theres so many people on craigslist dumping there nexus phones. The phones are purely designed for flashoholics. When samsung made the nexus they always made sure it was a step below the galaxy line. LG will always make sure its a step below the G series. The phone dosent compare to an S4, G2, Note 3, HTC ONE and from what ive been reading the moto x just blows it out the water.
My co-worker recieved his today so i had a hands on experience and i wouldnt take a nexus + cash for my htc one. I have 2 upgrades i can use and wouldnt dare use them on the nexus. Its the same thing every year. Alot of hype, google store sells out bc people wanna try to flip em like there an iphone. Then they hit stores and the value drops significantly. Nexus phones never hold value.
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i went from a Note 2, to an S4 to an HTC One and now to the Nexus 5

HRodMusic said:
Bro im on your boat, im receiving my nexus 11/06, im sure its worth it 100%, the only thing that worries me are the speakers. other than that better screen better cpu.
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Also in the same boat and think it will be worth it. Went from a Nexus 4 to the HTC One and currently awaiting for my Nexus 5 to arrive tomorrow. Definitely going to miss the One's speakers. I just hope the camera quality is roughly the same or better on the Nexus. Judging from reviews, it's hit or miss. Hopefully they come out with software updates.

Ordered a One when they first came out, switched back to a Nexus 4 a couple months ago, and now I've moved onto the Nexus 5 and just sold my One yesterday. The One is still a fantastic phone, but like most of us, nothing beats vanilla Android. You won't regret it one bit.

I currently have the One and the Nexus 5. Camera experience is way better on the One. Screen is more vibrant on the One, but the n5 is equally as sharp. The sound on the One is awesome, but the n5 isn't as bad as some say. It's louder, but didn't have the refined sound. But not too bad. N5 seems faster, but could be negligible. Vanilla android is awesome, but sense has some cool features, like the camera software and IR Blaster. They both feel great on your hand. Battery, it's too soon to tell, but I think the One is slightly better, but it makes sense, same size battery, smaller screen, lesser processor. Again, negligible.
If camera is truly important, the One is better, otherwise the N5 is amazing and you won't be disappointed.
Also, unless you NEED vanilla android on a nexus, then you don't need the phone. Don't forget plain KK is coming to the One within the first 15 days, so soon.
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luck. said:
Also in the same boat and think it will be worth it. Went from a Nexus 4 to the HTC One and currently awaiting for my Nexus 5 to arrive tomorrow. Definitely going to miss the One's speakers. I just hope the camera quality is roughly the same or better on the Nexus. Judging from reviews, it's hit or miss. Hopefully they come out with software updates.
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im sure the camera will perform just fine, but the front facing camera, thats a whole new thing lol, but lucky for me i never use it! =D

DeusInvictus7 said:
I actually went from the HTC One to the Moto X, and now my Nexus 5 is coming on Thursday. For me, I never really used the speakers on the One, so personally that point (and really one of the only ones that the HTC One has on the N5, outside the aluminum chassis) doesn't matter too much for me.
For me, the Moto X was actually a more enjoyable phone to use than the One. I think it's the whole stock android experience that just makes me happier to use my phone. I did put AOSP on my One, but I did go back to Sense just because I wanted the IR to work at the time. I just sold my One the other day to fund my N5 purchase.
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I have the One as well, I was SERIOUSLY considering the Mx... But the Nexus 5 just blew it out of the water
Darkne0 said:
I've had the HTC One since launch and have loved it so far...but when I heard about the Nexus 5, I ordered one. But now I'm having second thoughts, You guys think it's worth upgrading?
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Cool! I am not the only one

Had One since launch, N5 got here today. Definitely much better software, don't even mind the finish. Expecting camera/speakers to be worse but I knew that when I ordered and had already dealt with that loss
I like sense too, but if you want stock android then the GE roms/CM etc still don't stack up to a Nexus (actually recently getting the N7 and seeing how good it was just on stock rom really made my decision for me).
M.

Hearing early reviews saying the speaker sucks has got me worried, the camera too. The screen quality seems to be about equal, specially since it is bigger. Build wise the HTC ONE looks amazing and feels amazing in my hand. I think I will know if it was worth it when I feel it in my hand.

Darkne0 said:
Hearing early reviews saying the speaker sucks has got me worried, the camera too. The screen quality seems to be about equal, specially since it is bigger. Build wise the HTC ONE looks amazing and feels amazing in my hand. I think I will know if it was worth it when I feel it in my hand.
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The N5 looks and feels very classy. Almost makes the N4 look dated.

Kwongger said:
I have the One as well, I was SERIOUSLY considering the Mx... But the Nexus 5 just blew it out of the water
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Thats good to know! I got the Moto X as a work phone, so that's really the only reason I have one. I wouldn't have spent my own money on it to be honest, here in Canada it's too expensive and we don't get the customization options like the US. I'm stoked to get the N5, and so is my girlfriend. She's coming from a Galaxy S3, and I finally convinced her to go stock android!

bmoreboy02 said:
What makes you think better screen? Theres so many people on craigslist dumping there nexus phones. The phones are purely designed for flashoholics. When samsung made the nexus they always made sure it was a step below the galaxy line. LG will always make sure its a step below the G series. The phone dosent compare to an S4, G2, Note 3, HTC ONE and from what ive been reading the moto x just blows it out the water.
My co-worker recieved his today so i had a hands on experience and i wouldnt take a nexus + cash for my htc one. I have 2 upgrades i can use and wouldnt dare use them on the nexus. Its the same thing every year. Alot of hype, google store sells out bc people wanna try to flip em like there an iphone. Then they hit stores and the value drops significantly. Nexus phones never hold value.
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I work for AT&T and I happen to own all the phones you listed. I swap between all of them, running 3 at a time (work phone, personal phone, and one on a spare line that I got before getting the job). My current lineup is the Galaxy S4, note 3, and LG G2 I literally just gave my wife my HTC one last week. With the exception of the S4 and Moto X, all these phones are great in theiir own right . You could make an argument for any of of them. But I have to say, it makes me laugh to see the S4 and Moto X in the same sentence as the other phones you listed. The Note 3, HTC One, and Nexus 5 are in their own class. The LG G2 is alright, but you have to change some settings to subdue that horrible UI lag. Moto X and S4 are more hype and marketing than deliverance. Actually, I was extremely excited for the Moto X and begged my boss to let me have one of the stores 2 models. Unfortunately the battery life killed the experience for me. I had higher expectations for a device low on specs but was supposed to be "refined". Honestly, I'm feel like the Nexus 5 is almost like the Moto X rehashed and done better.
To anyone having second thoughts, coming from the one, don't. The one may be the best phone I ever owned. The fact that it's still amount the best almost 8 months later and after the fall lineup release is proof of that. But I went With the Nexus because it has a longer end of life, lighter, and just a hair faster. (Though my Note 3 and Galaxy gears watch is fun too, but I only have it for another 2 weeks until I have to give it back). Don't pay too much attention to people freaking out. It's all in what we want out of our phones.

It's 100% completely worth it. This phone is amazing and I don't thing anybody coming from any phone will be disappointed. Now with that begin said I do miss 2 things which are the HTC One speakers and the IR blaster. But there is so many better aspects to this phone that I'm willing to overlook those two things happily.
>^.^< Sent from meow nexus5

No because the HTC two is probably around the corner and if you love your boom sound, you will be very disappointed.
Very.

nkgangew said:
I work for AT&T and I happen to own all the phones you listed. I swap between all of them, running 3 at a time (work phone, personal phone, and one on a spare line that I got before getting the job). My current lineup is the Galaxy S4, note 3, and LG G2 I literally just gave my wife my HTC one last week. With the exception of the S4 and Moto X, all these phones are great in theiir own right . You could make an argument for any of of them. But I have to say, it makes me laugh to see the S4 and Moto X in the same sentence as the other phones you listed. The Note 3, HTC One, and Nexus 5 are in their own class. The LG G2 is alright, but you have to change some settings to subdue that horrible UI lag. Moto X and S4 are more hype and marketing than deliverance. Actually, I was extremely excited for the Moto X and begged my boss to let me have one of the stores 2 models. Unfortunately the battery life killed the experience for me. I had higher expectations for a device low on specs but was supposed to be "refined". Honestly, I'm feel like the Nexus 5 is almost like the Moto X rehashed and done better.
To anyone having second thoughts, coming from the one, don't. The one may be the best phone I ever owned. The fact that it's still amount the best almost 8 months later and after the fall lineup release is proof of that. But I went With the Nexus because it has a longer end of life, lighter, and just a hair faster. (Though my Note 3 and Galaxy gears watch is fun too, but I only have it for another 2 weeks until I have to give it back). Don't pay too much attention to people freaking out. It's all in what we want out of our phones.
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What aspects? I dont recall ever reading about so many defects and issues as i have read about this nexus 5
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NEXUS 5 is a steal.....
still love my HTC one

Anyone upgrade/side-grade from the HTC One?

After weeks of "should i, shouldn't i" i finally bit the bullet and bought a nexus 5 (haven't received it yet). I'm coming from an HTC one, which I also prematurely upgraded from the galaxy note 2 (so this is my second phone off-contract, and 3 phone in the last year [ i think i have a problem ])
anyway, i'm suddenly getting buyers remorse. I know the speakers are going to be a downgrade. I watch a lot of videos on my phone, and i'll probably feel the difference. I am looking forward to wireless charging, and hopefully, better signals though.
anyone else upgrade/sidegrade from the HTC one? How's your experience so far with the nexus 5. If anyone can just hold my hands and tell me it's gonna be ok, that would be awesome :laugh:

I had the HTC One, got rid of that for the GS4 (not the best decision) and got rid of that for the Moto X. Now I have both the X and the N5 and while I like the X better than the N5, I definitely like the N5 better than the One. The One was neat but I hated the size to screen ratio, and really didn't like the aluminum build. It felt too fragile to me. The N5 feels pretty damn fragile too but not as much as the One. I also am not a fan of Sense and after getting the X and now the N5, I'll never go back to a phone with a skinned OS again.
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finalhit said:
After weeks of "should i, shouldn't i" i finally bit the bullet and bought a nexus 5 (haven't received it yet). I'm coming from an HTC one, which I also prematurely upgraded from the galaxy note 2 (so this is my second phone off-contract, and 3 phone in the last year [ i think i have a problem ])
anyway, i'm suddenly getting buyers remorse. I know the speakers are going to be a downgrade. I watch a lot of videos on my phone, and i'll probably feel the difference. I am looking forward to wireless charging, and hopefully, better signals though.
anyone else upgrade/sidegrade from the HTC one? How's your experience so far with the nexus 5. If anyone can just hold my hands and tell me it's gonna be ok, that would be awesome :laugh:
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I have an HTC One, and you will notice a big difference with the speakers. BUT what you will gain is lightning-fast response, and a studder-free interface. It is the fastest, and smoothest phone I have ever used (look at my sig... I've had plenty of variety). Try it out though, it may not be for you. If you are heavily invested in BlinkFeed, and HTC services, it may take a while to convert fully, but it is not a bad device by any means.
Just note... the signal is displayed differently on the One than stock Android. A 6 bar-indicator, down to a 4 bar-indicator will APPEAR that the signal is weaker, but in reality it will be the same, or stronger that what you aesthetically see on the One. I haven't had any issues with service, reception, or speed at all with the Nexus.
*grabs hand* Hang in there. All is well, and welcome to the realm of the Nexus. :highfive:

I actually like the one's aluminum build, but another reason I'm switching is because I scratched the back a tiny tiny bit. And it was driving me crazy (ocd and stuff)
I got the diztronic case for it, which I really liked, and I know basically feels like the nexus 5. This sorta pushed me into this direction.
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I "side-graded" from a (Sprint) HTC One to a N5, and...I mean, I don't regret it at all but I do kinda miss the front facing speakers and the wide angle lenses on the cameras. I DON'T miss the capacitive buttons and the GPS/LTE issues with CyanogenMod roms. It's gonna be OK man, lol, especially when the development really gets going.

N4 to HTC One to N5 for me. Each was an improvement. The N5 is just silly fast and other than the speakers on the One, I don't find anything on the N5 that would make me go back to the One. One is a good phone, but the N5 is excellent.

I went from GS3 > HTC One > Note 3
I was in two minds over the Note and the N5, I miss the One an awful lot in all honesty, I was running MoDaCo ROM on it and used GPE a lot more than Sense. The build quality on the One is great and the sound of course is excellent.
I have the Note 3 now, but I am still tempted by the N5 - purely cause it looks lovely more than anything, I am happy with the Note but I tend to change my phone on a whim (a very very very brief stint with BB also) - Had some hands on time with the N5 and I gotta admit it's made me think about it a lot more...

I went from S3>Note 2>iPhone5 for 10 hours to trade for HTC One>Nexus 4>Nexus 5 and the development for the Nexus devices is second to none. This new Nexus 5 is absolutely ultra smooth and super fast. Only problem I have with Nexus 5 right now is Hangouts as SMS because I can't even receive MMS messages or emoticons. I know there is other messaging apps but I don't want to have multiple messaging apps. I'm going to stick with Nexus devices myself from here on and I sure hope a fix for the MMS issue is fixed soon. My 2 cents
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finalhit said:
After weeks of "should i, shouldn't i" i finally bit the bullet and bought a nexus 5 (haven't received it yet). I'm coming from an HTC one, which I also prematurely upgraded from the galaxy note 2 (so this is my second phone off-contract, and 3 phone in the last year [ i think i have a problem ])
anyway, i'm suddenly getting buyers remorse. I know the speakers are going to be a downgrade. I watch a lot of videos on my phone, and i'll probably feel the difference. I am looking forward to wireless charging, and hopefully, better signals though.
anyone else upgrade/sidegrade from the HTC one? How's your experience so far with the nexus 5. If anyone can just hold my hands and tell me it's gonna be ok, that would be awesome :laugh:
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lol, you think you have an issue? Heres my phone rundown for this year.
1.Nexus 4
2.LG Optimus G
3.Nexus 4 White
4.HTC One 32gb Silver
5.HTC One 32gb Black
6.HTC One 64gb Silver
7.LG Optimus G Pro
8. NOte 2 grey
9.Note 2 White
10.Galaxy S4 Black
11.Galaxy S4 White
12.LG G2
13.Galaxy Note 3 black
15.Nexus 5
16.iphone 5 16gb black
These are all the phones i have had this year. I trade for them on craigslist/sell them, plus some upgrades along the year. So you are alright man. To answer your question tho, my HTC One is by far my fvorite phone i have used this year, other than the fact the battery took for ever to charge, I believe is the phone if the year.

Fidelio_o said:
lol, you think you have an issue? Heres my phone rundown for this year.
1.Nexus 4
2.LG Optimus G
3.Nexus 4 White
4.HTC One 32gb Silver
5.HTC One 32gb Black
6.HTC One 64gb Silver
7.LG Optimus G Pro
8. NOte 2 grey
9.Note 2 White
10.Galaxy S4 Black
11.Galaxy S4 White
12.LG G2
13.Galaxy Note 3 black
15.Nexus 5
16.iphone 5 16gb black
These are all the phones i have had this year. I trade for them on craigslist/sell them, plus some upgrades along the year. So you are alright man. To answer your question tho, my HTC One is by far my fvorite phone i have used this year, other than the fact the battery took for ever to charge, I believe is the phone if the year.
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Lol how much money have you lost in the process? I lost 200 dollars from note 2 to HTC one (less 100 thanks to a rebate with HTC).
I'm going to lose another 200 when I sell my HTC one for ~250. Luckily, there was a 150 cashback on sign up with discover card (thanks slickdeals).
So all in all, this journey has cost me 150 and whatever accessories I bought for each phone. I guess its not to bad
This is a bad habit I intend to end.
I just pray the HTC one 2014 does not have wireless charging.
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finalhit said:
Lol how much money have you lost in the process? I lost 100 dollars from note 2 to HTC one thanks to a 100 rebate with HTC.
I'm going to lose another 250 when I sell my HTC one for ~250. Luckily, there was a 150 cashback on sign up with discover card (thanks slickdeals).
This is a bad habit I intend to end.
I just pray the HTC one 2014 does not have wireless charging.
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Only deal where I know for a fact I lost money was trading my galaxy s4 for the LG Optimus G pro. Good deal at the time I thought. But when it came time to try to sell it. No one wanted to buy it. Seriously I had it on eBay and craigslist and no one was biting until finally some guy offered me 300 and I let it go for that. This was like 3 weeks after it had came out also. I wanted to love it but the speaker volume on that phone was atrocious. Beyond awful.
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The good thing about all those phones is that I've made about 200 dollars in Google play with all the promos Samsung and HTC have been offering this year lol. So there's that.
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After weeks of "should i, shouldn't i" i finally bit the bullet and bought a nexus 5 (haven't received it yet). I'm coming from an HTC one, which I also prematurely upgraded from the galaxy note 2 (so this is my second phone off-contract, and 3 phone in the last year [ i think i have a problem ])
anyway, i'm suddenly getting buyers remorse. I know the speakers are going to be a downgrade. I watch a lot of videos on my phone, and i'll probably feel the difference. I am looking forward to wireless charging, and hopefully, better signals though.
anyone else upgrade/sidegrade from the HTC one? How's your experience so far with the nexus 5. If anyone can just hold my hands and tell me it's gonna be ok, that would be awesome :laugh:
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I have both N5 & HTC One GPe, both bought on their release day. So far, I'm keeping N5 as my daily driver, aside from audio, which is a big step down from One's Beat boom sound, almost everything else seems a little better with N5. Still can't decide on display quality, HTC One has colder whites, colors pop more but N5 is actually better at rendering skin tones. And I definitely like N5's screen ratio better, text flows/wraps better when screen is a bit wider. As for build quality, I love the craftsmanship of my HTC One (absolutely no cosmetic flaws), but N5 feeds surprisingly good in hands, the feather weight doesn't feel cheap at all and is actually more comfortable to hold than the One.

Awesome. After a surprising 2 day wait, I got my nexus 5. Speakers are acceptable. Blazing fast... Even compared to HTC one.
Sadly, seems I lost the lottery and mine has 4 dead pixels. Off to RMA queue.
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[Q] Can't decide which phone

Note 4 or Galaxy S6.. or wait for LG G4?
i change my phone every half year and i need a phone that i will stay 2 years...
i have iphone 5s right now

love phones here as well
currently have note 4 and iPhone 6 plus, one of them will be sold on eBay shortly- most likely iPhone
I believe that s6 this time will be the phone will stay with me longer than others at least till note 5 comes
i have this bad and expensive habit of changing phones regularly but somehow I have a feeling this s6 will be a different story
best screen
future proof processor and RAM
nice design
killer camera
what else do you want?

Go for the S6. Don't need to think about it, it's just the best.

Anyone switch from Brand S?

Has anyone switched from an S8 or S9, regular or plus, to the 12+? If so, what were your deciding factors? Any regrets?
I'm a longtime HTC fan or I wouldn't be in these forums. 9yrs and 4 phones later, my 10's battery is on it last leg (getting the sudden shutdowns... Started a couple of months ago at 15% battery remaining, now it's up to 50%... Literally getting under 30mins SOT).
Anyway, I really, really want to buy a 12+ and love it, just like my past HTC phones. However, I've read and watched the same negative reviews as you all, and I've seen the overwhelming "no issues here" reports on this forum.
My problem is that I've tested an S9+ in a couple of different stores, and it is a really nice device. But my holdup on buying one is twofold - first, I'm in the US and the Snapdragon ROM forums for the S9/8/7 seem pretty bleak. And second, as I said, I don't want to have the same thing as everyone else and I really love my HTC phones.
Just wondering if anyone had used a recent Samsung flagship and switched.
Mark

So, given that it's a 99.9% certainty that I'm going to end up with a U12+, let me rephrase the question a bit...
For those that own or have used a Note 8 or S8/S9 or S9+, what do you like better about the U12+?

My note 8 is a piece of ****ing garbage and I hate the entire Samsung brand now. The software is an utter abomination. I could go over the very long list of reason why this phone sucks but I'll spare you. And there's no bootloader unlock for snapdragons, so it will never be able to improve. I've ordered my HTC u12 and it's on its way. My u11 that was stolen was tenfold a better phone than this note 8 ever could be.
What did I like better about all my previous HTCs? Software, and custom ROM development support. Even completely stock OEM software my u11 took a **** on this note 8, my u11 had a better camera, it had more customization options, and edge sense was very nice after setting it up. For a 1k price tag my note 8 left everything to be desired.

Thanks, I appreciate the comments. It confirms what I thought I already knew. I kind of figured the "aftermarket" support for the Sammy would be limited, and I've always heard they are among the hardest to root. The S9+ was a nice phone, but I have zero doubt that the 12+ will be just as nice... Options are limited for no notch and SD card support.
I did good with my 10... I made it 6 months before my ORD came back and I had to root and start flashing. I'm guessing the same will be true with the 12+... I won't be able to let it stay stock forever, and I do love the ROM support I've enjoyed over the years with my HTC phones. I think I just closed that remaining 0.01% in favor of ordering the 12+.

From HTC U12+ to Samsung S10+?
Has anyone who owns the HTC U12+ switched to the new Samsung S10 or S10+? Would like to hear this experience.

I have both, U12+ and S10. Samsung G9730 is faster, with better screen and is very comfortable in hand. With working VoLTE, VoWiFi and ViLTE out of the box.

SteveHG said:
I have both, U12+ and S10. Samsung G9730 is faster, with better screen and is very comfortable in hand. With working VoLTE, VoWiFi and ViLTE out of the box.
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Don't forget that S10 is 2019 smartphone with SD 855 CPU, HTC is 2018 with SD845CPU

GaetanoS.89 said:
Don't forget that S10 is 2019 smartphone with SD 855 CPU, HTC is 2018 with SD845CPU
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Yes and the speed difference is probably barely noticeable. The reason HTC has always been the best is cause their performance was always the best with no degradation. I never even have to reboot any of my HTC phones. And the freedom of unlocked bootloader.
I swore to myself I would never buy a crapsung phone but with no news from HTC and wanting to get my mom a great, Verizon compatible phone, I thought I would give it a shot. With the BOGO deal I'm only paying $500 a piece for the S10+.