This is not a 'best ROM' thread, simply a request for assistance.
My friend experienced abysmal battery life when her phone updated to the (stock) Lollipop ROM. I rooted it, installed Multirom and flashed a Kit Kat ROM for her, which means she could actually use her phone for more than 7hrs without it dying.
Now Marshmallow is out I want to give her a secondary ROM to test out. But I don't see her that often and I want a ROM that offers auto-updates so that so long as the dev releases delta updates then she'll get them. This is to assuage my concern regarding her going for the next year with no security updates.
1. Can anyone recommend a MM ROM that has this feature?
2. Is there any reason why Multirom would interfere with an update system like this?
Thanks.
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Why would you install MM on a device that belongs to someone else?
a hammerhead wrote this.
I'm struggling to understand the question. If your friend isn't technically able, then surely the simple course is to wipe and install MM, leave it stock, and she'll get all the Android OTA updates as they arrive. Is this not exactly what you want? Why over-complicate her life with multiple ROMs?
Just asking...
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So as some of you may know the S4 had it's exploit fixed and since then we haven't been able to get away from Touchwiz based roms.
Before I go get the G3 I just wanted to be 100% clear that even the latest firmware hasn't fixed Bump, and I will be able to do other AOSP roms. From my quick research it seems like it's fine, but I only have 20 minutes left to get it friday instead of monday, so I figured I would just ask to be safe.
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So as some of you may know the S4 had it's exploit fixed and since then we haven't been able to get away from Touchwiz based roms.
Before I go get the G3 I just wanted to be 100% clear that even the latest firmware hasn't fixed Bump, and I will be able to do other AOSP roms. From my quick research it seems like it's fine, but I only have 20 minutes left to get it friday instead of monday, so I figured I would just ask to be safe.
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AT&T released firmware Build number: KVT49L.D85010f to patch root exploit. Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/d850-software-update-t2937550
When Android Lollipop rolls out to G3 in the near future, rooting will be harder to accomplish. Same for other brands.
hwong96 said:
AT&T released firmware Build number: KVT49L.D85010f to patch root exploit. Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/d850-software-update-t2937550
When Android Lollipop rolls out to G3 in the near future, rooting will be harder to accomplish. Same for other brands.
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But that is recent enough that a phone bought today will not come with it out of the box, so I'm not worried about that.
And in theory I can just flash a bumped lollipop build later anyway right?
I just want to make sure it's not in the same current state as the S4 where you have to have touchwiz and match roms to bootloader version and what not.
I know there isn't too many roms yet with bump being fairly new, but as long as I stay on the current build I should be fine going forward no?
And I guess on that note, the stock rom isn't nearly as bad touchwiz is it?
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But that is recent enough that a phone bought today will not come with it out of the box, so I'm not worried about that.
And in theory I can just flash a bumped lollipop build later anyway right?
I just want to make sure it's not in the same current state as the S4 where you have to have touchwiz and match roms to bootloader version and what not.
I know there isn't too many roms yet with bump being fairly new, but as long as I stay on the current build I should be fine going forward no?
And I guess on that note, the stock rom isn't nearly as bad touchwiz is it?
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Yes, yes and Lg is better than TW imo.
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Yes, yes and Lg is better than TW imo.
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Cool, I went for it, thanks for the quick clarifications. I can read all about everything now while I impatiently wait for UPS friday.
with LG phones you can always downgrade the software to a version where you can root.
I am sure there will be a way to get official lollipop while keeping custom recovery and root.
Once again, LG locked the door but forgot to close it before locking like what they did on the G2. So we were still able to upgrade while keeping custom recovery and root by mixing and matching partitions from upgrade and previous versions.
I (finally) got the OTA update notification to switch to Lollipop from 4.4.4 KitKat. I believe there is a 5.0.2 version out there as well, but haven't gotten this alternative yet?
Would I gain anything from this update except aesthetics upgrades? What can I expect from battery life (a big concern)? Is the update reversable (i.e. can I go back to KitKat)? What are the pros and cons of Lollipop?
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I (finally) got the OTA update notification to switch to Lollipop from 4.4.4 KitKat. I believe there is a 5.0.2 version out there as well, but haven't gotten this alternative yet?
Would I gain anything from this update except aesthetics upgrades? What can I expect from battery life (a big concern)? Is the update reversable (i.e. can I go back to KitKat)? What are the pros and cons of Lollipop?
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Hi, I would do the update if I were you. I'm on Cataclysm and the battery life is great. Version 5.0.2 is only for Nexus 7 and 10 AFAIK.
You can always revert back with wugfresh's toolkit.
For a not-so-detailed listing of the new features have a look here, or search for youtube presentations of LP.
All of my Android devices (N5, 2014 Moto X, 2013 N7) are staying on KitKat. Aside from all the bugs that people are complaining about with Lollipop, I just don't like the look of it. Google went way too far in their attempt to create mainstream appeal, and made it way too pretty and colorful for my tastes. I think KitKat is still the best version of Android to date. All my devices are stock rooted + Xposed, and I will likely never update them. The only way I'll use Lollipop is when I buy a new device that ships with it.
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I got the OTA at around the same time as you did so i quickly updated, i haven't experienced any bugs on 5.0.1 yet (i don't think 5.0.2 will be coming to the nexus 5) but i must say lollipop feels soo much smoother
I'm also staying on kitkat on all my devices.
In case I get tempted or "accidentally" update, won't my current twrp nandroid backup allow me to return to kitkat or will it be more complicated?
If I wanna stick to KitKat, how do I remove the constant notification in the drop-down bar? Also, how does Lollipop deal with managing contacts, merging duplicates, contact list layout, etc (not too happy with that in 4.4.4)?
I foudn my battery life got decently better on kitkat
I foudn my battery life got decently better on kitkat
Anderson2 said:
I'm also staying on kitkat on all my devices.
In case I get tempted or "accidentally" update, won't my current twrp nandroid backup allow me to return to kitkat or will it be more complicated?
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You can always flash factory image and then flash your backup, there's no problem.
Hi,
I am new to this particular phone. There's so much information here, and although I've tried to search through it I'm still overwhelmed by it all - so I'm hoping someone might be willing to help with a few questions.
I have the XT1540 model, and could use some help. I have the stock rom with TWRP intalled and backups. I was notified that I have the Marshmallow update available, but I can't install due to TWRP. I prefer to keep the Motorola provided ROM. Since this was just released, I assume no one has posted the Marshmallow "stock" rom - is that correct?
I know asking for an ETA is poor form, but you guys know these forums and what can be expected - any idea when a backup image of the Motorola provided Marshmallow rom might be posted?
I assume I can't restore the stock bootloader in order to complete the Marshmallow installation - is this correct?
Final question: Is there a highly stable, all-features-intact custom Marshmallow ROM that comes highly recommended?
Thanks in advance,
Chris
There is no estimate as to when the full stock of MM will be available. There is a TWRP backup of the final soak available over in the General forum. It's been the last soak for quite a while now and I suspect it's the final. I've run all the soaks and that last release is running perfectly on my XT1540 1gb model. It is a backup from a 2gb version but that doesn't matter, it works on either model. Once flashed you won't get the OTA but then with TWRP you won't get that anyway.
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Some owners here keep crying that they want Nougat.
I have a warning for you. Nougat soak on various devices has a history of problems. People that have sideloaded Nougat soak keep asking how to come back to MM (that can't do it fully, bootloader will remain on N). Now the official Nexus 6P started to have bootloops after upgrading to N: https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p-users-experiencing-random-bootloops/
Maybe is related to Google's desire to "lock" down Android even more, maybe is just a plain design failure (bite more than they could chew) like in the case of Windows Me or Windows Vista, not sure. But be warned, if you rely on your phone for important day-to-day things, think twice before updating. Let others to be the guinea pigs.
PS: CM is not safer either, especially now after their announcement and when the future direction is not clear. Secondly, it is still based on Google's "N" code.
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Some owners here keep crying that they want Nougat.
I have a warning for you. Nougat soak on various devices has a history of problems. People that have sideloaded Nougat soak keep asking how to come back to MM (that can't do it fully, bootloader will remain on N). Now the official Nexus 6P started to have bootloops after upgrading to N: https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p-users-experiencing-random-bootloops/
Maybe is related to Google's desire to "lock" down Android even more, maybe is just a plain design failure (bite more than they could chew) like in the case of Windows Me or Windows Vista, not sure. But be warned, if you rely on your phone for important day-to-day things, think twice before updating. Let others to be the guinea pigs.
PS: CM is not safer either, especially now after their announcement and when the future direction is not clear. Secondly, it is still based on Google's "N" code.
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And your suggestion is now everybody should stay on marshmallow and don't upgrade to nougat based roms?
bro this is problem with users who dont know properly about roms and rooting etc .
i have been using lots of different roms including stock one but i have never met any iss ie boot loops ., bugs etc
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a free advice is that dont do things that you dont know about .
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That's a fair warning. those who want to be at the bleeding edge will go for it anyway.
cheers!
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Right ??
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and this is an open source plateform .so this is common .
if you you want bug free os then use ios and forget about root and customization .
it is like two sides of coin .
if you want open source plateform then you will have to face these problems
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if you you want bug free os then use ios and forget about root and customization .
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IOS is bug free? Haha, best joke ever
You should read again what a soak test is. This may be not stable and/or have bug(s). That's why it should not be share here. Ppl who flashed it just want to have that last software without knowing if it works well or if it's ready for daily use.
About bootloop, this is not something new while jumping to a new major version. I'm pretty sure flashing clean works a way better
Edit: took time to read the article, its clearly said that's a hardware issue. Maybe you should read it too....
And for CM, last news are clear enough. Say welcome to LineageOS. All ROMs are based on Google sources, since it's the only one....
Thanks for the advice, but this is your POV.
I know what a soak test is. The problem is that a LOT (all of them?) of those treads claim "this is an official Moto" or just not say anything about being a soak test... Only one poster changed the OP title after I pointed out that he shouldn't claim that it is an "official" release.
Hence my warning - it is not for people that know what they are doing (more power to you) but for the casual drive-by posters that are lured into a false sense of "security". How many threads we saw here about that?
Also, we see more and more that even the devices that had an official Nougat, are not trouble free. Hardware issue? Why it did happened only after update to Nougat? The Nexus 6P is not a new device... more than a year old.
Maybe my title is not the best choice, but I wanted to attract attention of those casual posters.
As for LineageOS... I am skeptic. That's all I will say for now, since it was more of a parallel.
lol moto user for past 3 years , and i do know what is soak test is happy to flash it , face the risk with smile not by crying . There is always a workaround for anything
soak test is meant to detect bugs and other issues . so the are official one but not the final one . they can make minor Changes to the os to make it error free .
so they are not officially realized but are official .
and i have also rested it . and i found it bug free all the time . so i dont thing there was need to make major changes and you can also get updates after it .
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sorry for typing error s??
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It's funny how you say that soak has bugs and you can't downgrade, while soak it's lots better than mm and actually you can downgrade the bootloader too (why I'm so sure? Because I'm in the last soak and I have downgradeded 3 times without issues)
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It's funny how you say that soak has bugs and you can't downgrade, while soak it's lots better than mm and actually you can downgrade the bootloader too (why I'm so sure? Because I'm in the last soak and I have downgradeded 3 times without issues)
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You've downgraded your bootloader?
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You've downgraded your bootloader?
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https://youtu.be/T9NG5fIDccI
Take a look at this
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https://youtu.be/T9NG5fIDccI
Take a look at this
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Thank you for the noob friendly windows guide.
Can you post your bootloader version?
What a silly post
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I went from a Custom MM ROM to a Custom N ROM on my XT-1644 and haven't had any issue on N Custom ROMs. Some of the Custom ROMs are now requiring you come from Official Lenovo Moto G4 N ROM required, but i believe it's only for the finger security scanner, which i dont...
Now because i went from custom ROM MM to N, i wonder if i can just restore my original firmware backup in TWRP? hmmmmm....
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Take a look at this
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So basically you took the instructions found here and made video. Big deal... especially when you didn't actually downgraded a locked bootloader. Some users don't know that they will have to lose warranty if they side-load Nougat and want to go "back".
Anyway, the situation is that our devices don't have "official" Nougat and people that claim that are just misleading.
I'm going to sell my phone and running latest RR.
After reverting back to mm with relocking boot loader is safe or removing BL unlock warning is enough to sell my phone ?.
I'm aware about reverting to mm because last month i downgraded to mm for installation of latest soak without flashing got and BL, but then again installed custom ROM.
Current BL is 25.03.60r
I agree with OP. It is all very based on user experience but if you take a look through forums on this site you will see numerous complaints of bugs and issues in the nougat based Roms, soak test or otherwise. To anyone who says MM is bad is just not an Android person. It's something we as a community wanted for years and you be whining about not having the next version, which is my opinion isnt an upgrade, is really annoying. End rant.
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I went from a Custom MM ROM to a Custom N ROM on my XT-1644 and haven't had any issue on N Custom ROMs. Some of the Custom ROMs are now requiring you come from Official Lenovo Moto G4 N ROM required, but i believe it's only for the finger security scanner, which i dont...
Now because i went from custom ROM MM to N, i wonder if i can just restore my original firmware backup in TWRP? hmmmmm....
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I flashed a rooted stock backup from TWRP after being on an N rom back before the VOLTE bug was fixed with no issues. Never flashed soak test.
So I've gotten an Mi 5s Plus for my wife but she wants a more up to date version of Android than what Xiaomi is releasing (current is MIUI 8.5/Android 6.0.1) as they take forever to update.
Obviously I don't want to be tech support moving forward, and I'd like her to be on the latest version of Android. I just really want this to be a set and forget sort of thing, so assuming it would need to be a base ROM of some sort from a major releaser, hopefully there is something released with everything working.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what ROM i could use on her phone so that she doesn't have to worry about updates as she will just receive them OTA?
As with myself she also will require the phone to be NON-ROOTED for her work, along with banking apps (which I'm assuming you can always remove root/lock the phone after installing the ROM).
I don't mind if its a version of MIUI or not but I'd like it so that all the features of the phone still work which I'm assuming would be MIUI.
Thanks for any help.
I think Xiaomi.eu weekly ROMs have OTA, but I'm not sure.
If not than maybe Lineage OS.
Ressurection Remix definitely has OTA.
https://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/miui-weekly-rom-releases.103/
Have you tried the global developer ROM? It is quite stable from my testing and is updated nearly every week. It is Android 7.0.
Are these OTA updates?
Is the global developer rom certified so that Android Pay works?
Also I'm assuming the updates to this are OTA, if I miss a couple weeks can you just update to the most recent one?
Ressurection would be interesting, thanks. Does it support Android Pay?
@umirza85 Not sure. I'd try but I've rooted it.