Android 4.4.4 versus 5.0.1? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I (finally) got the OTA update notification to switch to Lollipop from 4.4.4 KitKat. I believe there is a 5.0.2 version out there as well, but haven't gotten this alternative yet?
Would I gain anything from this update except aesthetics upgrades? What can I expect from battery life (a big concern)? Is the update reversable (i.e. can I go back to KitKat)? What are the pros and cons of Lollipop?

Crezt said:
I (finally) got the OTA update notification to switch to Lollipop from 4.4.4 KitKat. I believe there is a 5.0.2 version out there as well, but haven't gotten this alternative yet?
Would I gain anything from this update except aesthetics upgrades? What can I expect from battery life (a big concern)? Is the update reversable (i.e. can I go back to KitKat)? What are the pros and cons of Lollipop?
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Hi, I would do the update if I were you. I'm on Cataclysm and the battery life is great. Version 5.0.2 is only for Nexus 7 and 10 AFAIK.
You can always revert back with wugfresh's toolkit.
For a not-so-detailed listing of the new features have a look here, or search for youtube presentations of LP.

All of my Android devices (N5, 2014 Moto X, 2013 N7) are staying on KitKat. Aside from all the bugs that people are complaining about with Lollipop, I just don't like the look of it. Google went way too far in their attempt to create mainstream appeal, and made it way too pretty and colorful for my tastes. I think KitKat is still the best version of Android to date. All my devices are stock rooted + Xposed, and I will likely never update them. The only way I'll use Lollipop is when I buy a new device that ships with it.
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I got the OTA at around the same time as you did so i quickly updated, i haven't experienced any bugs on 5.0.1 yet (i don't think 5.0.2 will be coming to the nexus 5) but i must say lollipop feels soo much smoother

I'm also staying on kitkat on all my devices.
In case I get tempted or "accidentally" update, won't my current twrp nandroid backup allow me to return to kitkat or will it be more complicated?

If I wanna stick to KitKat, how do I remove the constant notification in the drop-down bar? Also, how does Lollipop deal with managing contacts, merging duplicates, contact list layout, etc (not too happy with that in 4.4.4)?

I foudn my battery life got decently better on kitkat
I foudn my battery life got decently better on kitkat

Anderson2 said:
I'm also staying on kitkat on all my devices.
In case I get tempted or "accidentally" update, won't my current twrp nandroid backup allow me to return to kitkat or will it be more complicated?
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You can always flash factory image and then flash your backup, there's no problem.

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Worth it to install android 4.4.3?

Hey guys!
I still havent installed android 4.4.3 in my nexus. Reading in different websites I've seen there are many bugs so I was wondering whether it is worth it to upgrade or whether I should stick with android 4.4.2 for now.
Cheers!
nad4321 said:
Hey guys!
I still havent installed android 4.4.3 in my nexus. Reading in different websites I've seen there are many bugs so I was wondering whether it is worth it to upgrade or whether I should stick with android 4.4.2 for now.
Cheers!
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always better to upgrade, it includes several fixes that are really helpful.
If you're afraid that you might get any bugs (but I don't think that you will) you could flash the whole stock 4.4.3 image and start from scratch.
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nad4321 said:
Hey guys!
I still havent installed android 4.4.3 in my nexus. Reading in different websites I've seen there are many bugs so I was wondering whether it is worth it to upgrade or whether I should stick with android 4.4.2 for now.
Cheers!
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Many of those bugs and issues are isolated cases. Personally I'd rather upgrade to an OS that has more fixes, is less Bugless should be more stable.
I'm on the DIrty Unicors 4.4.3 build with Franco R53 kernel and my N5 is performing fantastic. Smooth, stabile, seems even faster, and more fluid transitions. I also flashed the new modem/radio (wasn't in the DU 4.4.3 build) and not that I even had an issue with the last radio, but this one seems to be working great for me on MetroPCS. I'm getting more bars and LTE reception in areas that usually struggle with singnal and my WiFi to data transition seems quicker to.
No to mention that there are all the modems/radios I. A flashable zip through a custom recovey and then you can test to see which one works be for you.
On the other hand... If you find that you don't like it (which I doubt) try a custom 4.4.3 ROM.
I f you have one you could always just reflash a nandroid backup to a previous version 4.4.2
You could also always flash back the stock images to 4.4.2 using the same method that you upgraded to 4.4.3 and there's other method you can do this way without losing user data.
Upgrade and enjoy the latest and greatest on your Nexus5!

[Completed] [Q] Returning Nexus 7 (2012) to factory stock

Hi,
My uncle gave my his old (2012) Nexus 7 to mess around with. It's currently running pretty slow. He said he sideloaded 5.0 onto it which slowed it down a lot. I'm not sure if this was an official version of 5.0, however, since it looks a good bit different from my Nexus 5 running the OTA (e.g. the app drawer button looks like KitKat still, as do the app folders and app drawer itself). He may be wrong, but he was under the impression that given the way he's loaded 5.0, I won't get OTA updates on the device.
It's my understanding the 5.0.2 improves performance for the 2012 Nexus 7. I'd like to get the device back in a state in which it will receive OTA updates.
I should say that though I've been an Android user for years, I know next to nothing about flashing custom roms. Next to nothing meaning I don't even know how to root a device.
As of now, in "About tablet," it says: Android version 5.0; Kernel version 3.1.10-g5d8ecd2, [email protected] #1, Wed Aug 20 19:52:21 PDT 2014; Build number LRX21P
Hi,
Here is a guide on returning to stock,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Good luck!
Darth said:
Hi,
Here is a guide on returning to stock,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Good luck!
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Thanks!

[Q] Will new Lollipop update show if I do not update current one?

I have got a new Nexus 5. Originally, it came with KitKat 4.4.2, and KitKat 4.4.4 was available immediately, to which I updated.
Just a few days ago, I got the notification for Lollipop 5.0.1 update. Reading about several Lollipop issues on Nexus 5, I do not want to update to Lollipop yet, and I intend to continue using KitKat 4.4.4.
I also read on the internet that the major update of Lollipop, 5.1, will be released in February. So, I want to wait for that.
My question is this.
If I do not update to Lollipop 5.0.1 update, and when a new version of Lollipop is available, for example, 5.0.3, or 5.1, or any other newer update, will I get the notification for that, even if I have not installed the current update?
CapriAnupam said:
I have got a new Nexus 5. Originally, it came with KitKat 4.4.2, and KitKat 4.4.4 was available immediately, to which I updated.
Just a few days ago, I got the notification for Lollipop 5.0.1 update. Reading about several Lollipop issues on Nexus 5, I do not want to update to Lollipop yet, and I intend to continue using KitKat 4.4.4.
I also read on the internet that the major update of Lollipop, 5.1, will be released in February. So, I want to wait for that.
My question is this.
If I do not update to Lollipop 5.0.1 update, and when a new version of Lollipop is available, for example, 5.0.3, or 5.1, or any other newer update, will I get the notification for that, even if I have not installed the current update?
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I don't know for sure if you'll get the update notification or not but it won't install if you do. The updates have become sequential and you'll need to have the one before or the new update won't install.
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So in other words, double update at that time if you're willing to wait
Thanks for the replies .
Yea, I had guessed that it might be required to install the previous updates before updating to the current one. That's no problem, and I can perform the double updates. I am willing to wait for a Lollipop version which won't have any major issues.
The issue will be of notification... whether there will be notification for the new update or not. It will be good to get it, but I have doubts about it.
Do you guys know if Lollipop 5.0.1 is having any major issues on Nexus 5? I keep reading conflicting reports about it. An article on a site says that the author is not having any major issues... but my cousin who updated to it sometime ago, is having many issues.. app crashing, and all.
That's why I think I will wait. It's a brand new Nexus 5, and I haven't started using it. Had been waiting for the Lollipop update, but by the time it arrived, I read about several issues, and was glad that I did not update.
I had also read that Lollipop 5.0.1 had been released but pulled back for Nexus 5, and I wasn't expecting it on my phone, but I was surprised to receive it.
Willing to wait for another Lollipop update, but that constant notification about system update is going to be quite a pain .
CapriAnupam said:
Thanks for the replies .
Yea, I had guessed that it might be required to install the previous updates before updating to the current one. That's no problem, and I can perform the double updates. I am willing to wait for a Lollipop version which won't have any major issues.
The issue will be of notification... whether there will be notification for the new update or not. It will be good to get it, but I have doubts about it.
Do you guys know if Lollipop 5.0.1 is having any major issues on Nexus 5? I keep reading conflicting reports about it. An article on a site says that the author is not having any major issues... but my cousin who updated to it sometime ago, is having many issues.. app crashing, and all.
That's why I think I will wait. It's a brand new Nexus 5, and I haven't started using it. Had been waiting for the Lollipop update, but by the time it arrived, I read about several issues, and was glad that I did not update.
I had also read that Lollipop 5.0.1 had been released but pulled back for Nexus 5, and I wasn't expecting it on my phone, but I was surprised to receive it.
Willing to wait for another Lollipop update, but that constant notification about system update is going to be quite a pain .
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5.0.1 works fine. I have no issues with it on my n5
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Thanks. That's good to know. And now you have me in a fix again... thinking whether to update or not . Will think about it.

Auto-updating MM ROM?

This is not a 'best ROM' thread, simply a request for assistance.
My friend experienced abysmal battery life when her phone updated to the (stock) Lollipop ROM. I rooted it, installed Multirom and flashed a Kit Kat ROM for her, which means she could actually use her phone for more than 7hrs without it dying.
Now Marshmallow is out I want to give her a secondary ROM to test out. But I don't see her that often and I want a ROM that offers auto-updates so that so long as the dev releases delta updates then she'll get them. This is to assuage my concern regarding her going for the next year with no security updates.
1. Can anyone recommend a MM ROM that has this feature?
2. Is there any reason why Multirom would interfere with an update system like this?
Thanks.
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Why would you install MM on a device that belongs to someone else?
a hammerhead wrote this.
I'm struggling to understand the question. If your friend isn't technically able, then surely the simple course is to wipe and install MM, leave it stock, and she'll get all the Android OTA updates as they arrive. Is this not exactly what you want? Why over-complicate her life with multiple ROMs?
Just asking...

Got a XT1032 with KitKat, Update?

Hi there,
I got a 2-year-old german retail Moto G XT1032 with Stock 4.4.4 Kitkat as a daily driver. I've rooted it approx. a year a ago, installed the Xposed-Framework with xprivacy and Gravitybox. But the phone seems to get quite slow with standard applications like WhatsApp or the music player. So i deleted the app-caches of the Google Expericence Launcher and some other applications. Now it's not so laggy anymore, but i think with
a new version of Android it could be a bit faster.
I'd like to flash it with a new firmware. Now i dont't know, which one to choose. I've read that, when i want to upgrade to 5.1 or 6.0, i have to update the bootloader. And with this new bootloader i can't switch back
to KitKat, is that right? Now the question is, should i update to Lollipop or Marshmallow. When Lollipop came out, i've heard that it was quite a buggy mess. There were a couple of bugs, which made it unusable as a daily driver. Can you recommend Lollipop as a daily driver over KitKat? As I see, there are only beta (nightly) versions of Marshmallow out for the XT1032. Are they stable enough for using it as a daily driver?
Thanks
Patrick
patr!ck said:
Hi there,
I got a 2-year-old german retail Moto G XT1032 with Stock 4.4.4 Kitkat as a daily driver. I've rooted it approx. a year a ago, installed the Xposed-Framework with xprivacy and Gravitybox. But the phone seems to get quite slow with standard applications like WhatsApp or the music player. So i deleted the app-caches of the Google Expericence Launcher and some other applications. Now it's not so laggy anymore, but i think with
a new version of Android it could be a bit faster.
I'd like to flash it with a new firmware. Now i dont't know, which one to choose. I've read that, when i want to upgrade to 5.1 or 6.0, i have to update the bootloader. And with this new bootloader i can't switch back
to KitKat, is that right? Now the question is, should i update to Lollipop or Marshmallow. When Lollipop came out, i've heard that it was quite a buggy mess. There were a couple of bugs, which made it unusable as a daily driver. Can you recommend Lollipop as a daily driver over KitKat? As I see, there are only beta (nightly) versions of Marshmallow out for the XT1032. Are they stable enough for using it as a daily driver?
Thanks
Patrick
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1. yes, with a new bootloader you cannot go back to Kitkat. Also keep in mind that you need a recent recovery (TWRP 2.8.7)
2. i can only compare custom roms of KK or LP and i dont see a significant advantage of LP, also KK seemed to have the better memory management
3. another suggesting to your problem: if you dont care about having something "new" you might try a custom KK rom where my recommendation would be SlimKat (overall best and most stable rom i have ever used). That may solve your problems, but if you dont like it you can always go back to stock KK or upgrade
I never used my phone much on KitKat but things u will sacrifice on lp or marshmallow is multitasking (ram management) and battery timing but performance on newer os especially on marshmallow is too good I'm using cm13 nightly 03-01-2016 its so stable that know I don't even bother to upgrade to newer nightly its thousand times better than lp I suggest try KitKat ROM still unsatisfied then u only have choice to watch a video of phone running mm then deciding upgrade BTW just use greenify this phone often gets drunk without it

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