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Thinking of getting G3 coming from S4, is the current G3 stock still able to use roms

So as some of you may know the S4 had it's exploit fixed and since then we haven't been able to get away from Touchwiz based roms.
Before I go get the G3 I just wanted to be 100% clear that even the latest firmware hasn't fixed Bump, and I will be able to do other AOSP roms. From my quick research it seems like it's fine, but I only have 20 minutes left to get it friday instead of monday, so I figured I would just ask to be safe.

failedjedi said:
So as some of you may know the S4 had it's exploit fixed and since then we haven't been able to get away from Touchwiz based roms.
Before I go get the G3 I just wanted to be 100% clear that even the latest firmware hasn't fixed Bump, and I will be able to do other AOSP roms. From my quick research it seems like it's fine, but I only have 20 minutes left to get it friday instead of monday, so I figured I would just ask to be safe.
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AT&T released firmware Build number: KVT49L.D85010f to patch root exploit. Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/d850-software-update-t2937550
When Android Lollipop rolls out to G3 in the near future, rooting will be harder to accomplish. Same for other brands.

hwong96 said:
AT&T released firmware Build number: KVT49L.D85010f to patch root exploit. Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/d850-software-update-t2937550
When Android Lollipop rolls out to G3 in the near future, rooting will be harder to accomplish. Same for other brands.
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But that is recent enough that a phone bought today will not come with it out of the box, so I'm not worried about that.
And in theory I can just flash a bumped lollipop build later anyway right?
I just want to make sure it's not in the same current state as the S4 where you have to have touchwiz and match roms to bootloader version and what not.
I know there isn't too many roms yet with bump being fairly new, but as long as I stay on the current build I should be fine going forward no?
And I guess on that note, the stock rom isn't nearly as bad touchwiz is it?

failedjedi said:
But that is recent enough that a phone bought today will not come with it out of the box, so I'm not worried about that.
And in theory I can just flash a bumped lollipop build later anyway right?
I just want to make sure it's not in the same current state as the S4 where you have to have touchwiz and match roms to bootloader version and what not.
I know there isn't too many roms yet with bump being fairly new, but as long as I stay on the current build I should be fine going forward no?
And I guess on that note, the stock rom isn't nearly as bad touchwiz is it?
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Yes, yes and Lg is better than TW imo.

hwong96 said:
Yes, yes and Lg is better than TW imo.
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Cool, I went for it, thanks for the quick clarifications. I can read all about everything now while I impatiently wait for UPS friday.

with LG phones you can always downgrade the software to a version where you can root.
I am sure there will be a way to get official lollipop while keeping custom recovery and root.
Once again, LG locked the door but forgot to close it before locking like what they did on the G2. So we were still able to upgrade while keeping custom recovery and root by mixing and matching partitions from upgrade and previous versions.

[Q] Updating to Lollipop

Hey guys
My friend just bought a new Huawei Mate 7 Gold yesterday and I checked the Android version and it says 4.4.2 Kit-Kat. He'd like to update it to Lollipop and since I have been doing such things for years on Samsung and HTC devices I thought I should help him out by checking the forum first. I found a helpful article about updating it to Lollipop OTA, however it is in German and the translation is terrible, so can anyone point me in the right direction?
As I said, the device is brand new and still has 4.4.2 unmodified Kit-Kat on it.
This is the article I am talking about: http://www.huaweiblog.de/huawei/huawei-mate-7-lollipop-update-download/
Thanks guys!

There's a thread dedicated to this in the general section

Thanks for you reply and for pointing me out to the right thread. From what I've read, it seems as though the Lollipop update is quite unstable nowadays and I should hold off till it's official, correct? I don't want my friend to go through a hassle because of it since he is not very tech-savvy.

TarekElsakka said:
Thanks for you reply and for pointing me out to the right thread. From what I've read, it seems as though the Lollipop update is quite unstable nowadays and I should hold off till it's official, correct? I don't want my friend to go through a hassle because of it since he is not very tech-savvy.
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I have installed lollipop 5.1.1 beta and its quite good but there's still many bugs. Maybe it is better to wait the official release.

I agree. If your friend is not tech savvy, hold first and wait for official release

It's usable as a daily driver, but no, not as stable as 4.4.2.
Generic overview:
-random reboots, not extremely frequent but they happen.
-some memory issues compared to 4.4.2
-a bit less battery
-some options not present

Hi, someone knows when will be release the official version of lollipop? No betas

janrck said:
Hi, someone knows when will be release the official version of lollipop? No betas
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Nope, and tbh i'm not extremely eager to run lollipop on most phones right now... Google screwed up pretty bad on this major version.

papped said:
Nope, and tbh i'm not extremely eager to run lollipop on most phones right now... Google screwed up pretty bad on this major version.
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I second that. While material design is nice to look at, the memory leak and battery drain are causing issues in some lollipop phones

hi,I tried alot roms but can not install them,device is mate 7 2gb ,MT7-L09 and rom is B137SP11,I think this rom is developed from any rom,by the way official huawei site in which rom avaible this one did not install too.I have another problem when I use ussd codes not change tr expression in area codes,may be it will occur from tr expression,I buy it from TURKEY I think it will not give permission to set new rom on it?thanks
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I guess moto x pure will not have Android N, Android O is coming

I guess moto x pure will not have Android N, Android O is coming:crying:
I have waiting for a long time, moto still let me wait. I think moto is dying, it will be my last moto phone.

What are you on about dude? They are currently soak testing N and.while it may be later than you like boohoo..

kudouyuzi said:
I guess moto x pure will not have Android N, Android O is coming:crying:
I have waiting for a long time, moto still let me wait. I think moto is dying, it will be my last moto phone.
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lol... Your inexperience is showing here. The Moto X getting Nougat has nothing to do with Android O, we will get it within the next few months but it will likely be our last upgrade.
Other newer Moto devices will get O, probably towards the end of the year or early next year.
If you want consistent, regular updates and constantly be on the latest and greatest then buy a Pixel. End of story, nothing else will get you better.

kudouyuzi said:
I guess moto x pure will not have Android N, Android O is coming:crying:
I have waiting for a long time, moto still let me wait. I think moto is dying, it will be my last moto phone.
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What are you talking about? There are literally dozens of Nougat ROMs in the forums. I am currently running Resurrection Remix and their ROM is pretty stable on 7.1.1. I haven't had any issues with it and it's super smooth and fast. Try it!

blackra1n said:
What are you talking about? There are literally dozens of Nougat ROMs in the forums. I am currently running Resurrection Remix and their ROM is pretty stable on 7.1.1. I haven't had any issues with it and it's super smooth and fast. Try it!
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I somewhat agree with you. Am on latest Lineage build with boot.img fix and everything is working fine.
But you can't argue against, "Stock Moto is best Moto."
Moto's stock ROM usually have best performance and battery life.
P.S: They improved battery life in Soak Test. There's very little battery drain when phone is idle. Also the phone doesn't get heat up much when multitasking.

Unified reply:
The third party ROM does not have Moto's unique features, power consumption and instability.

antariksh said:
I somewhat agree with you. Am on latest Lineage build with boot.img fix and everything is working fine.
But you can't argue against, "Stock Moto is best Moto."
Moto's stock ROM usually have best performance and battery life.
P.S: They improved battery life in Soak Test. There's very little battery drain when phone is idle. Also the phone doesn't get heat up much when multitasking.
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Tell me, how is your in call volume mate, can you change it? Are you really sure everything is working fine? How about wave over the screen to wake the phone?
For someone that's a small issues but I rather stay on MM and wait for stock ROM.

lukas77 said:
Tell me, how is your in call volume mate, can you change it? Are you really sure everything is working fine? How about wave over the screen to wake the phone?
For someone that's a small issues but I rather stay on MM and wait for stock ROM.
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FYI, Yes. I can change Call volume without any problem. Also Audio and Mic are working perfectly fine.
"wave over the screen to wake the phone" - I guess, you meant AMBIENT DISPLAY.
Well, in your words, Yes, I can wave over the screen to wake the phone.
Am currently on Lineage 03/20 build with fixed boot.img from the dev.
and before that I was on 02/13 build which was just as stable as stock ROM.
Maybe you should look around in forum a bit more.

use custom rom or have patience

antariksh said:
I somewhat agree with you. Am on latest Lineage build with boot.img fix and everything is working fine.
But you can't argue against, "Stock Moto is best Moto."
Moto's stock ROM usually have best performance and battery life.
P.S: They improved battery life in Soak Test. There's very little battery drain when phone is idle. Also the phone doesn't get heat up much when multitasking.
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Yeah I'll admit the battery life isn't the greatest but it's also not that bad. At least there's the option for Nougat if one desires it

Moto X Pure/Style will not get Android O - ever. It's doubtful whether it will get anything other than 7.0 to be honest .

m+a+r+k said:
Moto X Pure/Style will not get Android O - ever. It's doubtful whether it will get anything other than 7.0 to be honest .
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Oh, it will get Android O, and probably P, maybe even Q too... But not officially or from Moto. Look at the Moto G (original one) it is 3 or close to 4 years old, and it is still supported by developers, you can get Nougat on it and will likely get O as well.
And why should Moto continue to support it? This phone is a getting close to 2 years old, there is no logical reason for Moto to continue supporting a platform that is getting beyond it's normal life cycle.

acejavelin said:
Oh, it will get Android O, and probably P, maybe even Q too... But not officially or from Moto. Look at the Moto G (original one) it is 3 or close to 4 years old, and it is still supported by developers, you can get Nougat on it and will likely get O as well.
And why should Moto continue to support it? This phone is a getting close to 2 years old, there is no logical reason for Moto to continue supporting a platform that is getting beyond it's normal life cycle.
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Keep dreaming if you think that'll happen. 7.1.1 is already out for many devices not to mention O aka Oreo for Nexus devices. Lenovo/Motorola is garbage and we all know this. That's why we all stop supporting these two garbage companies so they can go out of business.
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Knight-Rider said:
Keep dreaming if you think that'll happen. 7.1.1 is already out for many devices not to mention O aka Oreo for Nexus devices. Lenovo/Motorola is garbage and we all know this. That's why we all stop supporting these two garbage companies so they can go out of business.
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Read my post again... I am talking about 3rd party ROMs... We will get 7.0 from Moto, already know that and it will be the end.

Knight-Rider said:
Keep dreaming if you think that'll happen. 7.1.1 is already out for many devices not to mention O aka Oreo for Nexus devices. Lenovo/Motorola is garbage and we all know this. That's why we all stop supporting these two garbage companies so they can go out of business.
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HAHA! I think so!

Custom Rom
You know what I think Lenovo is never going the moto x android N in non US countries it is apparently out in Latin America
But If you want the rom just install Lineage OS they have a decent battery life for a custom and the device runs perfectly fine no bugs no lag nothing
A perfect Android N rom for almost all Motorola devices

I am trying my first custom ROM so please help.
I have Moto x Pure Edition XT 1575 on Android 6.0. I have not done anything to my phone yet and this is the first time I am trying. Would you please let me know the exact steps to root, flash and install custom ROM on my phone?

kaleend101 said:
I am trying my first custom ROM so please help.
I have Moto x Pure Edition XT 1575 on Android 6.0. I have not done anything to my phone yet and this is the first time I am trying. Would you please let me know the exact steps to root, flash and install custom ROM on my phone?
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No need to root the stock rom if you're just going to wipe it and flash a custom rom. The steps you need to follow are:
1) Unlock bootloader if not already done (note unlocking will automatically wipe the device, so backup files appropriately first)
2) Use fastboot to flash TWRP
3) Make a full backup in TWRP (don't skip this step as it can save you a lot of trouble if things go wrong)
4) Wipe and flash your custom rom. Flash gapps before booting in to the new rom too if you want Play store, etc.
5) Some roms aren't pre-rooted any more. If you want root, I recommend Magisk.
Details on how to do all this are spelled out step by step in Heisenberg's guide. Just do not root using the method in there. As I mentioned above, you don't have to root the stock rom just to replace it with a custom. However, if you feel the need to root the stock rom just flash Magisk. Don't flash that custom boot image it links to; that was a hack from the early days of systemless root that we no longer need.

Back when i was messing around with my Moto X Pure...i tried all the Mm roms at the time. Always found stock rom the smoothest and best battery life and most to my liking. A year or so later....it still has amazing battery life and nearly 2 days of standby time. It even outperforms my LG V10 even after replacing the battery.
And Android 8.0 is Octopus...apparently... not Oreo.....the dev preview build that is out has an Octopus logo thing in it now.

Most stable, up to date and future proof ROM?

Which one is it? Most of the ROMs which have been posted here haven't got an Update for ages now, the only one which seems up to date is the Oreo one, however I am afraid that this ROM will be dead too soon (hopefully not) :/ I just hope that this ROM will be our savior and get us out of this misery aka EMUI.

I'm in the same situation. Most of the roms have some bugs and never get updated and others are just not stable enough to be used daily. I hope there will be at least one rom that is stable and that gets updated from time to time. Especially since Honor 8 won't get Android Oreo anymore.

Leon Lambra said:
Which one is it? Most of the ROMs which have been posted here haven't got an Update for ages now, the only one which seems up to date is the Oreo one, however I am afraid that this ROM will be dead too soon (hopefully not) :/ I just hope that this ROM will be our savior and get us out of this misery aka EMUI.
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crDroid is under testing for latest B401 blobs and the GPS reboot fix. I'll update it as soon as possible.

hackslash said:
crDroid is under testing for latest B401 blobs and the GPS reboot fix. I'll update it as soon as possible.
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Never heard of crDroid before, can you tell what it is like? Is it a rom based on the B401 firmware? Whats the difference between the other ones? And in what kind is this firmware/rom better than teh other ones?

Leon Lambra said:
Never heard of crDroid before, can you tell what it is like? Is it a rom based on the B401 firmware? Whats the difference between the other ones? And in what kind is this firmware/rom better than teh other ones?
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I'm new to the Honor 8 (and coming from the Nexus 6: ease of modding/availability of custom firmware etc., this totally sucks). But I'll tell you that generally the only "better" custom ROM is a more stable ROM: otherwise, it depends on user preference. Do you want a lot of customization options, or are you preferring a pared-down, bare-bones experience? That's what makes the difference.
The trouble with the H8 appears to be that 1) EMUI for the H8 just doesn't play very nicely with custom ROMs (and possibly even just rooting?); and 2) because of that, not many people who are interested in developing ROMs are taking on the task.
So I'd just get used to EMUI or take whatever ROM is most stable according to most--I have no idea personally what that is, but your options are going to probably be pretty limited (especially now that it looks like Huawei is shafting H8 owners by not releasing Oreo). I doubt you've got any room to be picky here: just shoot for stability.
As for crDroid specifically, it is one of many lines of ROMs (like Resurrection Remix) and is released in different variants for different phones. This one is based on Cyagenmod (and my guess is the Honor 8 one isn't official, but rather an unofficial variant, "based on" crDroid)--but you could've found that out by using Google (see here for starters).
The Honor 8 appears to be an especially difficult device to successfully mod, so if you're a beginner, I'd really think twice before taking on the task unless you can get some help. I'm fairly well-versed with modding, but I'm either going to return this phone or limit my tinkering to rooting.

Some Brazilian users of G4+ are starting to receive invitation to "test drive"

Some Brazilian users of G4+ are starting to receive invitation to "test drive"
Some Brazilian users of G4+ are starting to receive invitation to "test drive" a new software

I am from India, and i too received this test drive email, but unfortunately i discarded my g4 plus 4 months back and moved to nokia 7 plus.

SnoopDoge said:
Some Brazilian users of G4+ are starting to receive invitation to "test drive" a new software
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Hey Snoop, I'm brazilian.
how can I get this test drive?

fehrock777 said:
Hey Snoop, I'm brazilian.
how can I get this test drive?
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Are you signed up to the Motorola Feedback Network? https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Forum-...for-the-Motorola-Feedback-Network/m-p/3064626
Usually to receive these emails, you have to be a member and also have been selected at the time they are recruiting for the soak test. These emails, as I understand it, are linked to the user they're sent to, so you won't be able to sign on with another user's email. Of course, if you sign up to the Motorola test drive, please be responsible and report bugs that you encounter to Motorola.
Failing that, the soak test (if this is the soak test) may be leaked here on XDA. If it is leaked, be aware that there may be bugs and if you flash this soak test without being part of the Motorola Feedback Network, you may get no further soak tests or any updates unless someone captures the rest of the soak test updates. Until we know more about this update, downgrading back to Nougat may be risky and there may be a risk of hard bricking your device.

@echo92 remembers me at the time of the nougat soak test where no blank flash files were available. People flashed soak test, thinks won't work as expected, they flashed back stock mm rom and... Brick
Hope that people are more aware of this risk nowadays....

strongst said:
@echo92 remembers me at the time of the nougat soak test where no blank flash files were available. People flashed soak test, thinks won't work as expected, they flashed back stock mm rom and... Brick
Hope that people are more aware of this risk nowadays....
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Oh, I hope so too - it was not fun (and still is not fun) telling users that they may have a fancy paperweight - even if our device is over 2 years old by now. Those times on the G4 Plus forums were crazy too... I also have a feeling that upon release of this Oreo OTA soak test or the official soak test, the existing blankflash may not work anymore. Motorola appears to have built in further protections or updated the bootloader to not permit older blankflashes to be used (as seen on the Moto Z Play: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77360506&postcount=385 )
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[ 0.210] Waiting for firehose to get ready
[ 3.215] Target NAK!
[ 3.215] ...This version of programmer has been revoked!
[ 3.215] ...Rebooting to blank flash mode in 30 seconds...
In other words, be very, very careful if you downgrade your firmware and use OTA updates.

I'm from India, I've also received test drive email, but I'm already on custom rom

I also received this email, after I received and replied. After that, does it take too long to release the system? I'm from Brazil.

I am signed up for MFN and Oreo soak test and did not receive any email.
Any chance someone can share a copy of the soak ROM image?

masivb said:
I am signed up for MFN and Oreo soak test and did not receive any email.
Any chance someone can share a copy of the soak ROM image?
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No download has yet been released, but Motorola says it's a rush to release and to run the tests on the email I received.

EvertonKira said:
No download has yet been released, but Motorola says it's a rush to release and to run the tests on the email I received.
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If this is a soak test, then from the other soak tests, it's likely a couple of weeks to recruit the testers, then the test may run for a couple of months, during which you'll be issued various soak test updates. Depending on what bugs are reported, the official OTA may be released then or be delayed for further testing.

@echo92
I may sound silly or like a noob. But i wanna ask something.
If moto gives oreo update, will that enable "treble" in our device.?
Or in other words will this update be helpful in anyway for treble.? so that it will be helpful for developers to build better pie ROMs

ganeshkmr21 said:
@echo92
I may sound silly or like a noob. But i wanna ask something.
If moto gives oreo update, will that enable "treble" in our device.?
Or in other words will this update be helpful in anyway for treble.? so that it will be helpful for developers to build better pie ROMs
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Hmm, i doubt we'll get treble officially for our device. We don't have a native vendor partition as far as i understand, and to get one would likely require repartitioning/erasing of data (especially as Motorola would likely want to keep the OEM partition). I understand other OEMs had an unused partition to use for treble, though treble is not a requirement of being updated to Oreo - only a requirement for devices launched with Oreo, from what i understand.
This update would be useful in providing updated drivers and firmware, which developers don't seem to be able to modify due to their closed source/proprietary nature. This, I'm hoping that custom ROMs would be more stable, less buggy and perhaps less work to make patches for the drivers to play nice on a Pie system.
From what I've seen of Treble, it does work to get a booting device. However, for device specific features, it seems that additional patches or a device specific system image are required. Thus for some, they may still prefer a custom ROM specifically built by a developer who knows their device. It's still impressive what can be achieved nonetheless.

SnoopDoge said:
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what is the source bro ?

ajaikumarnadar said:
what is the source bro ?
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This is a source itself as many people received the email in India and Brazil

With the soak test will come a new kernel. Will this help getting lineageos 15.1 support? Last I heard that was what was needed for better support.

theredbaron1834 said:
With the soak test will come a new kernel. Will this help getting lineageos 15.1 support? Last I heard that was what was needed for better support.
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I'm not sure about the kernel but I think it will help to finally fix the camera issues on Oreo roms

If the soak test rom does get leakd i wonder if it would work on the Moto G4 (XT1622) not the G4 Plus i have a Moto G4. But i have a Oneplus 5T now as i was tired of waiting for stable oreo

I was on the verge of installing a custom ROM till I received the email. I'm eagerly awaiting the OTA now. Also, pardon me for a n00b question but, could the ghost touch issue be possibly fixed over the OTA?

NOMADDAMON said:
I was on the verge of installing a custom ROM till I received the email. I'm eagerly awaiting the OTA now. Also, pardon me for a n00b question but, could the ghost touch issue be possibly fixed over the OTA?
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the ghost touch issue is hardware issue with the screen... and since you're chosen for the soak test, please provide us with screenshots once you get it