What functionality is lost upon rooting the Note5? - Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note5

Just like the topic says, I'm interested in what functionality is lost after rooting the Note 5. Like for example, I've heard that the ability to use Samsung Pay is essentially lost forever, even after reflashing a completely stock ROM. And after having a rooted S5 I noticed that the Private Mode feature was glitchy and stopped working sometimes after rooting. Is this the same for the Note 5? I'm interested in everyone's experiences with their Note5s and its features after rooting.

Samsung pay cuz of knox but being rooted i am on the moar rom. No sprint radio or sprint anything installed or running in back ground, i have a faster kernal?, also a longer lasting battery, and i installed other tweaks like make the phone ring louder...basically the option to install all these features like voice recording to any rom ur on. Being unrooted ur stuck with bloatware. With ur fingerprints and cc stored on phone, what you gonna do whrn its lost or stolen

Basically you will no longer be able to use Samsung Pay and Android Pay. There might be a few other things but that's the most of it.
There are a few other apps that check for root (like Netflix I think) but I think there are workarounds. Imo, rooting is worth it than nit rooting. I like my adblock and xposed modules.

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[Q] moving from galaxy nexus to the s6

Hi,
Hopefully getting my s6 tomorrow, but have a few questions:
1 I'm moving from the galaxy nexus, so I've become accustomed to the stock format. How is touch wiz? Ie is it a significant difference from the stock android experience?
2 I'd normally root the phone asap for backing up and flashing custom ROMs. Though I've heard rooting will trip KNOX, and currently there no way to restore KNOX status. As I'm concerned the phone may have issues with the screen (heard about discolouration etc), are Samsung likely to reject a phone when KNOX has been tripped?
3 as I haven't upgraded in quite some time, will the s6 automatically download my app and personal data when I log into google? If not, what's the easiest way to transfer the data without rooting?
Thanks!
Just install Google Launcher and you will feel right at home. Another thing is you will be extremely happy with the battery life compared to the gnexus. And yes google will automatically install all your apps once you setup your phone.
I came from a Nexus 5 so we are on the same boat.
1. The first thing I did after getting my s6 is to install Nova launcher because I feel touchwiz a little bit slow. Or if you prefer, you can download Google launcher if you prefer a stock feelling like @kojaraty said.
2. For the screen issue, I have no problem in this department.
3.Normally, your contacts, apps and pictures(if you did a sync with your gmail) should transfer automatically in your phone
3.
I'm also thinking of upgrading to the s6. Thank you mavers for creating this topic.
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mavers1985 said:
Hi,
Hopefully getting my s6 tomorrow, but have a few questions:
1 I'm moving from the galaxy nexus, so I've become accustomed to the stock format. How is touch wiz? Ie is it a significant difference from the stock android experience?
2 I'd normally root the phone asap for backing up and flashing custom ROMs. Though I've heard rooting will trip KNOX, and currently there no way to restore KNOX status. As I'm concerned the phone may have issues with the screen (heard about discolouration etc), are Samsung likely to reject a phone when KNOX has been tripped?
3 as I haven't upgraded in quite some time, will the s6 automatically download my app and personal data when I log into google? If not, what's the easiest way to transfer the data without rooting?
Thanks!
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I am coming from N6 and earlier had a S3, I am a pure android lover and I hated touchwiz. I flashed my s3 the very day I got it.. Never used touchwiz.. The touchwiz on s6 is a different deal.. It is bad ass. Its minimal and isn't laggy.. Install apex launcher.. Customize icons and you are good to go. Rooting isnt a big deal.. Knox can be removed with custom stock roms.. I am not even feeling the need to root right now.. Its that awesome.
Coming from a GNEX, every other cell phone screen is an improvement. That phone had the worst screen of any phone I've owned in the past 10 years!
Anyway the S6 has a beautiful screen.

Moving from Epic to S5. Rooting & knox

I have finally made the move from my Samsung Epic 4G running CM10.0. I decided on the S5 because the battery is removable, it has a micro SD, and if I mess it up it will not be a big deal. Most important for me is my device needs to work.
I have gotten accustomed to a rooted device free of Sprint boatware. With this new phone I am a but spooked by the knox bit issue. I have poked through he forum here for quite a while, but I do not see a lot of discussion on this. It seems there are rooting methods to preserve knox, but there are plenty of things that trip knox.
What I need to know is:
Do people who mode their phones care about tripping the knox bit? So you all just trip knox and move on. Or do most of you have a work around so you can root, flash custom roms, etc. and leave knox intact. As a new lurker, I do not have a clear impression from the forum which is the prevailing situation.
For me, I haven't been trading in my devices. And since I bought the S5 used, I do not need to worry about the warranty. At the same time, there is some value to being able to return the phone to stock. Which was a nice feature the Epic had going for it.
If you aren't concerned about a warranty, don't worry about tripping knox.
Keep in mind that cm13 for the s5 has some hicups so if you go custom you should consider MOAR tw for a lollipop rom or stock marshmallow - rooted and remove the junk.
I too came from an Epic and told myself that i prefer a removable battery, but my work just bought me an S7 so I walk around with two phones. The battery on the s7 is insane. I get almost 2 days out of it on stock. Im not allowed to root it
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Tripping Knox is irrelevant if you're not in-warranty. Knox's only purpose is to let the Sprint store (or Samsung) deny you warranty claims if you've rooted the phone. Tripping Knox won't affect your phone's behavior at all. You can run stock ROMs or custom ROMs.
FYI: On my old LG phone I used to run custom ROMs in order to free-up internal memory & squeeze out more performance (on an aging phone) and to get some additional features (on an aging OS). I haven't bothered to install a custom ROM on my Galaxy S5 because:
1) Stock Android 6.0.1 is really good.
2) Rooting it lets me remove bloatware (via Titanium Backup).
3) Installing the Xposed framework, and some Xposed apps (especially XtouchWiz) has brought to my GS5 all of the "built-in" features that I would normally have gotten only from a custom ROM.
4) Custom ROMs tend to be a bit buggy.
Like OP, I wasnt sure I cared about knox, but I have done all the OTA updates. Is there a way to go back to lolypop to use MOAR? I wish there was a marshmellow update to it. I really just want native hotspot unlocked.
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I really just want native hotspot unlocked.
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Hotspot has been built-into my Sprint GS5 since Android 5.1 (i.e. since I've owned it). It just came with my phone and my plan. Do you have Sprint service?
RazzMcTazz said:
Tripping Knox is irrelevant if you're not in-warranty. Knox's only purpose is to let the Sprint store (or Samsung) deny you warranty claims if you've rooted the phone. Tripping Knox won't affect your phone's behavior at all. You can run stock ROMs or custom ROMs.
FYI: On my old LG phone I used to run custom ROMs in order to free-up internal memory & squeeze out more performance (on an aging phone) and to get some additional features (on an aging OS). I haven't bothered to install a custom ROM on my Galaxy S5 because:
1) Stock Android 6.0.1 is really good.
2) Rooting it lets me remove bloatware (via Titanium Backup).
3) Installing the Xposed framework, and some Xposed apps (especially XtouchWiz) has brought to my GS5 all of the "built-in" features that I would normally have gotten only from a custom ROM.
4) Custom ROMs tend to be a bit buggy.
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RazzMcTazz :
This is exactly what I want to do on my new s5 right now. I REALLY like the 6.0.1 marshmallow... it's nice looking, but the damn sprint bloatware..omg.
In this order I want to change things:
* remove camera sound
* remove stupid "don't forget to check the back cover/charging ports"
* remove sprint bloatware
That's it..lol
I've seen one threat that says they have a stock version of 6.0.1 rooted but then I read the replies and it seems people are having issues? What was your method?
Thanks,
-Nigel
should just need to flash TWRP via download mode and then supersu in twrp. From there, TiB to remove all the crap you dont want or freeze it if you have the paid version. For the shutter sound, if you have root, you can just rename the stock camera sound file to something other than it currently is and you should be golden. The "dont forget to..." messages should have a check box in them that prevents them from popping up in the future. Dont need root for that
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RazzMcTazz :
This is exactly what I want to do on my new s5 right now. I REALLY like the 6.0.1 marshmallow... it's nice looking, but the damn sprint bloatware..omg.
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I've seen one threat that says they have a stock version of 6.0.1 rooted but then I read the replies and it seems people are having issues? What was your method?...
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I rooted my stock Sprint Android 6.0.1 (PCA) phone using the root method that I detailed IN THIS POST. Then I removed Sprint bloatware using Titanium Backup (free version from the Play Store). The I added Xposed and Xtouchwiz (under which I disabled the loud volume warning, among other nice tweaks) per the links I provided above. I also added an Xposed modules (NoUsNotification to stop annoying me with a confirmation dialogue when I connect to my PC via USB) and YouTubeAdaway. The phone is now pretty much perfect for my needs/desires.
RazzMcTazz said:
I rooted my stock Sprint Android 6.0.1 (PCA) phone using the root method that I detailed IN THIS POST. Then I removed Sprint bloatware using Titanium Backup (free version from the Play Store). The I added Xposed and Xtouchwiz (under which I disabled the loud volume warning, among other nice tweaks) per the links I provided above. I also added an Xposed modules (NoUsNotification to stop annoying me with a confirmation dialogue when I connect to my PC via USB) and YouTubeAdaway. The phone is now pretty much perfect for my needs/desires.
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Excellent!
I followed your how to and so far things are great! Rooted, nandroid backup. I have the paid TIbackup from a while ago so I am going to start freezing apps.
Just installed the xposed and xtouchwiz. Have just a couple questions for you.
1. I am able to disable the camera sound. (I had the box checked but didn't realized you needed to go into camera scroll down, then turn the shutter off..lol) I also disabled the annoying volume TOO loud in headphone mode. That's nice, thank you.
2. I enabled the no sound on boot, but that only appears to have shut the sound off via shutting down, and not when the phone starts up? Have you tried this?
*My fix was what was listed above and I added .bak to the sprint shut off/on boot noises. Now they don't make that annoying ass sound.
3. Is there a way to hide the "Sprint" in the upper left hand of the notification bar?
4. I have noticed that NOT all tweaks work, I take it this is because it's not truly meant for the s5, rather higher models..
So far I'm really impressed.
I am going to flash it so it removes the stupid sprint boot up images and then we'll see how it is.
-Nigel
NewShockerGuy said:
... Just installed the xposed and xtouchwiz. Have just a couple questions for you.
1. I am able to disable the camera sound. (I had the box checked but didn't realized you needed to go into camera scroll down, then turn the shutter off..lol) I also disabled the annoying volume TOO loud in headphone mode. That's nice, thank you.
2. I enabled the no sound on boot, but that only appears to have shut the sound off via shutting down, and not when the phone starts up? Have you tried this?
*My fix was what was listed above and I added .bak to the sprint shut off/on boot noises. Now they don't make that annoying ass sound.
3. Is there a way to hide the "Sprint" in the upper left hand of the notification bar?
4. I have noticed that NOT all tweaks work, I take it this is because it's not truly meant for the s5, rather higher models..
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1 & 2: I haven't tried those fixes because neither annoy me.
3: I only see "Sprint" in the upper left hand of the notification area when the phone is on lock-screen mode (not when unlocked). I've never even noticed it before. It doesn't bother me so I've never tried to get rid of it.
4: I think the developer (Wanam) for those Xposed & XtouchWiz mods says in his OPs that he just modified existing projects for non-Samsung/non-TouchWiz phones, and that (since Samsung does some things in a non-standard way) all features may not work on Samsung phones.
Congrats on the upgrade ..I did a S3 in between my Epic to S5 upgrade.
I too, have PE2 and looking to root for debloat and turn on hotspot again .. ran deoxed lollipop stock rom for a while and it was peachy .. maybe I will spring for a cool paid launcher after mission accoplished. This time will turn off camera sounds and headphone nag ...geez .
I was shopping the new phones and they are 'newer' and all the press says 'faster chip' but i don't get it ..and everyone but samsung seems to be not utilizing wireless charging or sd cards ... so enjoy your IR blaster, Radio, removable SD & batt ... get the wireless charging back a glass screen protector and a case that fits well with charging back or the s-view with charging back . . . make your S5 last !
Back to the topic , since warranty is a not a concern - the root /knox will only kill Android pay ..
Kenny
I must say overall I am really happy with Marshmallow and the s5!
It's almost perfect minus the fact that it doesn't have a dark theme. That is actually the only thing that really super annoys me with this is that even when you hold down the gear button you can't put the phone in night mode. Where as the newer S phones have the theme store and you can make the phone black like it should be. I couldn't really find anything to turn Marshmallow from the ugly white to a nice dark color.
I've taken out a lot of the sprint apps. Did the xposed and xtouchwiz mods. Removed the sprint bootup/shut down noises and animations. (looking at the system/ui you can see there are multiple boot animations. I found Virgin, and a few others. I changed mine to something that was in there called crypt. Crypt pretty much has a padlock with a spinning circle on it. Looks really cool. Much better than the Samsung animation or sprint animation without a doubt.
Dummy me clicked on "update" for some reason and it found an OTA (probably security) and it downloaded it but of course failed because of TWRP installed. Then I had on the settings icon a number 1. Indicating there was an update. I could not for the life of me figure out how to make it so it just showed a normal settings icon. I deleted what I thought was the downloaded OTA patch, but the icon still showed a number 1 on it. I ended up restoring back to right when it was rooted, and doing the above tweaks again. Only took about 15 minutes.
Going forward how does one install the Android security patches? Or is that something that at this point for the phone isn't even a concern/worth it?
And to touch on what Kenny said. I actually was about to get a s7, but then started to realize certain things just weren't kosher. Non-removable battery, non root, ALL glass phone = destroyed when I drop it...etc.
I think the s5 is a great phone. Removable battery, removable storage, plastic (though doesn't feel as great) is much better than a glass phone in my opinion. My only gripe is the rear speaker is horrible... if I turn up the speaker phone too loud during calls it crackles, where as my s2 could be turned up all the way and it was just clear/loud.
Sorry for being so long winded.
Thanks,
-Nigel
the speaker shouldnt be crackely at high volumes. Might be the kernel, but i wouldnt bet on it. Try a different ROM and see if it persists. Make a NAND in TWRP and try MOAR 7.0. Mine is fine at high volumes and thats the ROM ive been using for quite a while now
youdoofus said:
the speaker shouldnt be crackely at high volumes. Might be the kernel, but i wouldnt bet on it. Try a different ROM and see if it persists. Make a NAND in TWRP and try MOAR 7.0. Mine is fine at high volumes and thats the ROM ive been using for quite a while now
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I honestly wasn't planning on trying any Roms... but since you brought it up, I will ask. Since I am rooted and have the stock 6.0.1 marshmallow that Sprint released. I de-bloated it, and have it running where I want. It's been backed up.
Would I have to do anything with modems/kernels if flashing to MOAR 7.0? IE: Just wipe, flash then try it out, and if I don't like It, simply wipe, restore my previous 6.0.1 backup and it would be like nothing ever happened?
Thanks,
-Nigel
you can flash 6.0 ROMs when youre on the NCA baseband but no lollipop roms unless you flash the OK4 tar.md5. If you flash the OK4 tar.md5 you can flash LP and MM ROMs, but you cant go a version back on the 6.0 basebands.

Too Root Or Not Too Root?

Hi all i own a Tab s 8.4 LTE for a good year or so i did not trip Knox due to warranty and stuff.. But a month or so ago i found out about Viper4Audio so me flashing Twrp to install viper4audio tripped knox, yeah i know i could have not tripped knox.. if i installed viper4audio apk but the dam thing wouldnt work until i flashed it. Anyway once i heard viper audio wow im blown away now when ever i listen to the S8+ the audio does not sound as good as the tab s. So im wondering is it worth rooting ? the ones who have rooted do you regret rooting ? or shall i wait will root ever come for the S8+ EXYNOS With out tripping knox or am i dreaming for that ?
There will never be a way to root without tripping Knox I'm afraid.
You just have to decide if it's worth it for YOU.
You will lose warranty. You will lose things like Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, other banking apps, though sometimes this can be worked around.
I owned the S7E before owning the S8+, and it was the first time I have ever owned a phone that I didn't root it. It's a hard choice, but warranty is more important for me, along with Samsung Pay, Samsung health etc.
Just root. Life is bet with root.
Sent from my S7 Edge+Rooted+Xposed
I chose to not root my S7 edge, and the only thing that bothers me is video ads on youtube. otherwise I can live just fine without it. Custom roms tend to be too unstable for me, anyway. I won't root my S8+, assuming it ever comes out for the SD variant (bought it for dolphin, and I got it from Samsung for $524).
No. Not until we find a way to not trip knox.
I don't recommend you to root your phone you will loose Samsung pay feature for good plus your warranty. I can tell you yes it's a bit boring without having the ability to modify your phone but you can live without it. I think the stock rom is quite good and satisfies my needs . So again don't do it
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No root for me. Root is history for me since two years ago.
Don't see the needs of it already. Maybe they is still one or two nice apps that need root. For the sack of that one or two apps really not worth to root and trip Knox.
I root for years any single device I have but yesterday I bought also a S8+ and I think this will be the first time not to root. So no root - vote from me
Same rooted my s7 edge just to play and get more out of it. I will leave my new s8+ Alone. Battery is great would love the customizations with root but its good enough as it is. Only thing i really miss is viperaudio. Anyone know of a way this can be installed without tripping knox??
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
e753 said:
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
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First phone since the T-Mobile G1 I haven't rooted and I've had 12 smartphones since. There's nothing as good as Adblock but I'm not rooting the S8+ and am using Blokada from XDA.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...da-fire-forget-root-ad-blocker-t3503374/page2
I'm joining the growing choir of new S8 Plus users who have decided to leave rooting behind them. It was fun and extremely useful for me up until this S8 Plus. My Note 5 will be the last device I root. It's just not worth the hassle any longer. Lately rooting has become too much of a chore on this platform for me, personally. I've kept Samsung as my daily driver for years because one of the reasons was that traditionally it was much easier to root compared to other devices. This was especially true when I was with Sprint as they never locked down their phones like Verizon and AT&T did.
At this moment, as far as rooting is concerned, I have the same feeling I did when I finally said, "Enough!" when I was jailbreaking my iPhones. Eventually I grew tired of the cat and mouse game between devs and the OEM. This feels the same and I think it's time to say goodbye to rooting flagships for me.
Now I feel that the combined hardware and software development on this phone has matured enough that I'm okay rolling clean and stock from now on.
ggrant3876 said:
First phone since the T-Mobile G1 I haven't rooted and I've had 12 smartphones since. There's nothing as good as Adblock but I'm not rooting the S8+ and am using Blokada from XDA.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...da-fire-forget-root-ad-blocker-t3503374/page2
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Hey does blokada block YouTube ads ? YouTube ads are so annoying ?
100% definitely do NOT ROOT.
Matt
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Hey does blokada block YouTube ads ? YouTube ads are so annoying ?
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I have youtube red, no ads anyway, so I'm not sure.
I have been rooting since the beginning of Android, every phone I've had. I stopped using Samsung in 2013 and went to LG, then to Google (Nexus 6P, then Pixel XL), and now back to Samsung. I was honestly a little disappointed with the Pixel and how difficult it was to flash because of the dual partitions. I am in the US, and the US S8 was a no go, as I don't appreciate a phone that I buy outright being locked down. I ended up getting the SM-G955F, and rooted it the first day I had it. It was so simple, and so worth it. I feel like its 2013 again with how easy this thing is to modify. I have Viper installed, and customized to my liking, and my ROM is bloat free.
I have a Canadian S8 Plus and I've rooted all my Androids since the first Motorola. Like others I don't think at this moment rooting would bring me anything really exciting. I've installed Adhell 2 and got rid of the ads and backed up everything with the pc smart switch. I'm missing the volume warning disable mod because I found it annoying but even that one is not that bad if I don't restart the phone. Starting with S6 the best ROMs were always stock based and that became more and more evident lately so until something really new is coming up I'm going to stay unrooted. I'm with Bell and there are only 2 apps which I would not want them so basically no bloat. My 2c.
e753 said:
I have the same question...
I always rooted my phone since Froyo.
I basically need it to: browse on internet "safe" and to use titanium backup.
I guess I can use some adblocked browser (any suggestion?), but I do not how to backup and restore the apps.. Any idea how to resolve it?
THank you!
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You can get rid of ads with AdGuard.
I am hesitating to root also.
I used Titanium backup until now and if someone has an alternative I would be glad to hear it too.
Did you try Helium? The paid version has many features but it will only backup some apps vs Titanium. Because of missing root it will not be able to backup apps that have "backup disallowed" enabled.
EMJI79 said:
You can get rid of ads with AdGuard.
I am hesitating to root also.
I used Titanium backup until now and if someone has an alternative I would be glad to hear it too.
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But idf you root arent there supposed to be issue with it when it comes to the bootloader?

S5 to S7 App/Data Migration Options

I've been on a Sprint Galaxy S5 for a few years now, Stock Marshmallow only rooted. I'm making the jump to the new Xfinity Mobile service, basically Verizon.
I have a Galaxy S7 (SM-G930V) that is shipping this week.
Doing some reading, from what I'm finding, when you root the S7 you run the risk of losing some things, Google/Samsung Pay, maybe some of the Fingerprint scanner functionality, and also have read a decent number of users reporting that after rooting the device just doesn't run as good.
The S7 on the way will have Nougat.
So, this puts me at a bit of a fork in the road. The last 3-4 Android phones I've had have all been rooted, so whenever I upgraded, I used a combo of Titanium and MyBackupPro to make the transition pretty seamless. Reading about all the potential negatives to rooting the S7, I'm trying to look for options to migrate all my apps and app data without ROOT. I've already looked at and tried backing up my S5 with Helium Backup,....but unfortunately it looks like it can only do about 30-35% of my apps. I'm not really finding any better non-root backup/migration options out there.
What about Samsung Smart Switch or Kies?
Another thought is how easy is it to un-ROOT after rooting on the S7? Maybe I just root the phone, use Titanium & MyBackupPro to migrate, then un-root? Any side effects to this approach? Anything that isn't reversible once you've rooted or that doesn't go back to normal?
Apologies of any of this is a bit noobie'ish.....I've been out of the custom Android game for several years since rooting my S5 right after getting it.
Thanks in advance for any information, advice, or pointers.
Looking at the Kies & Smart Switch options a bit more. Doesn't look like Kies is really supported on the more recent Galaxy phones, and Smart Switch really won't do anything more than Helium backup is going to do for me. :/

Should I root (opinions)

Hi I've been rooting phones for over 10 years now but the past couple of devices I haven't due to it tripping knox etc but I miss a few things with root and looking for peoples opinions
I love having adaway and been able to fully uninstall apps I don't use
Is there much of an improvement on battery life as I have the exynos version :crying:
Also an app i haven't had chance to use is viper4android is it as good as people say and does it actually boot volume on bluetooth audio without distorting etc as that would be my main use for it
Also what exactly does tripping know destroy? I've read it affects Samsung pay and Samsung pass is there anything else
And has anyone had problems selling there device afterwards from tripping know (mainly in the uk) as I change devices quite a bit and sell them on lol
Thanks
You can use adguard if you don't want to root. I haven't bothered rooting anything for a few years now. It doesn't deliver any additional must have features i can't live without, unlike it used to.
Same boat, rooting for decades. Yet it seems a bit too immature this time on this device.
Also got the exynos junk (Iknew before getting it, but free phone from work).
I decided to go without for now.
Same here - decided to go on without root. The features I miss are - firewall (need to try knox firewall though), direct time sync (minor), some console commands to manage files, titanium backup - this is a major issue, so I can't backup OTP apps etc.
Don't root your device since that requires you unlocking bootloader to root and doing that triggers knock safety thing so it destroys knox permanently and then apps such as Samsung pay, samsung pass, secret folder, encryption and few more that requires knox to work will be unavailable, since knox chip is no longer functioning. Also warranty would be voided if you got 2 years warranty.
So if you plan to use samsung pay or any of other apps later on then avoid rooting and touching bootloader.
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Don't root your device since that requires you unlocking bootloader to root and doing that triggers knock safety thing so it destroys knox permanently and then apps such as Samsung pay, samsung pass, secret folder, encryption and few more that requires knox to work will be unavailable, since knox chip is no longer functioning. Also warranty would be voided if you got 2 years warranty.
So if you plan to use samsung pay or any of other apps later on then avoid rooting and touching bootloader.
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i dont know about usa and other countries, but in europe ur warranty won't be void if knox is tripped (afaik)
Still can't do without root unless there a way to block ads while using a vpn of my choice and control a firewall. Have my Note two days now after waiting 3 weeks for it to ship from Hong Kong and first thing I did was to root.
destz0r said:
i dont know about usa and other countries, but in europe ur warranty won't be void if knox is tripped (afaik)
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Well actually to get it tripped requires bootloader unlock for root and that would void your warranty in Europe. So id knox says 0x0 it also voids warranty
Only those that care about Samsung's proprietary Knox and it's associated bloat should worry about knox being tripped. Only thing I'd probably care about is 3rd party banking apps that might not work with patch hide. If that still works or not unsure.
rooting my n9860 asap. finally just got the oem option to show up. last phone i had was a note 8 not unlockable...and had to keep it for too long, wanting root the entire time. so i'm not missing the chance to do it now. why? to try custom rom, get all bloats/google/samsung apps off the phone and stop looking at system settings that i cannot change(top reason), learn about android / do some dev on it, test root apps made by community(2nd best reason), get a recovery installed, nethunter, call recording, toolbox, run my fav firewall. probably more reasons that im not thinking about right now
mgagnequebec said:
rooting my n9860 asap. finally just got the oem option to show up. last phone i had was a note 8 not unlockable...and had to keep it for too long, wanting root the entire time. so i'm not missing the chance to do it now. why? to try custom rom, get all bloats/google/samsung apps off the phone and stop looking at system settings that i cannot change(top reason), learn about android / do some dev on it, test root apps made by community(2nd best reason), get a recovery installed, nethunter, call recording, toolbox, run my fav firewall. probably more reasons that im not thinking about right now
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im considering rooting my N9810, but im wondering if I will still receive OTA updates then? or do i have to manually flash the update with each ota?
destz0r said:
im considering rooting my N9810, but im wondering if I will still receive OTA updates then? or do i have to manually flash the update with each ota?
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You wont get OTA after rooting, since rooting requires you to unlock bootloader so then OTA won't work. Also KNOX won't function permanently once this is done too.
So think if you going to use samsung apps like samsung pay and such then avoid touching bootloader and rooting.
mgagnequebec said:
rooting my n9860 asap. finally just got the oem option to show up. last phone i had was a note 8 not unlockable...and had to keep it for too long, wanting root the entire time. so i'm not missing the chance to do it now. why? to try custom rom, get all bloats/google/samsung apps off the phone and stop looking at system settings that i cannot change(top reason), learn about android / do some dev on it, test root apps made by community(2nd best reason), get a recovery installed, nethunter, call recording, toolbox, run my fav firewall. probably more reasons that im not thinking about right now
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Is one of them being able to tether (hot spot) without the carrier detecting it
cenwesi said:
Is one of them being able to tether (hot spot) without the carrier detecting it
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I doubt it but I never tried it before tbh. I guess i should say that i might not be a good example to follow when it comes to updates. i almost never do them. because it always was a compromise one have to make if wanting to root. at least from my experience. like, keep your firmware version low or you loose the ability to root. but gain security patches. i chose my side of the fence long ago hehe

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