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I lost root- perhaps thru flashing new recovery?

I rooted my Zoom wifi long ago. Flashed all the various Tiamat kernels and followed bigrushdog's 3.1 update with no problems. I recently flashed the CWR RC 4 over the updated 4.0.1 version in Rom Manager. I now see that all my apps requiring root don't work. I have Super user app but don't get the request to grant su anymore. I tried upgrading Super user within the app but it fails and writes a zip update to SD card which is supposed to be flashed through Recovery but doesn't (I suspect because the file is a 0 byte file!).
Any suggestions on how to get root back?
[Solved]: Seems it was a result of trying to upgrade Superuser that I lost root. See the last post below and the solution Almighty1 offers. It worked and I have root back......
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tangiers said:
I rooted my Zoom wifi long ago. Flashed all the various Tiamat kernels and followed bigrushdog's 3.1 update with no problems. I recently flashed the CWR RC 4 over the updated 4.0.1 version in Rom Manager. I now see that all my apps requiring root don't work. I have Super user app but don't get the request to grant su anymore. I tried upgrading Super user within the app but it fails and writes a zip update to SD card which is supposed to be flashed through Recovery but doesn't (I suspect because the file is a 0 byte file!).
Any suggestions on how to get root back?
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There is a problem with the latest recovery version in Rom Manager. The recovery from solarnz is probably not at fault, but maybe the interaction of the two. You wil lneed someone with more knowledge than me to help you get root back, but this issue really needs attention. There are several updates to apps that seem to be breaking our Xooms, and there should be pinned warnings or the developers should be making everyone aware of these conflicts as soon as they find out. I had problems and I'm sure a lot of other folks have have problems with these incompatible app updates as well.

Thanks for that. It almost seems like Superuser is "degrading" in the sense that I had a number of apps reflected in the Superuser app as having been granted root (but not Rom Manager). However, I couldn't add new apps to it. And when I cleared Superuser data and reinstalled it, none of the apps that required root (and which had worked before) would work.
I also think that the writing of a 0 byte zip update file by the Superuser app indicates a problem.
I suspect the solution may lie with fastboot and re-pushing Superuser and CHMOD(?) file permissions but like you, I am nervous to play with these sort of things. My Xoom is working and until I have the need to change the ROM, root doesn't matter to me....

after reading this I checked and also had lost root. I had not checked after after flashing 4.0 in rom manger. Superuser was still there but my apps did not have access. I tried flash a new recovery, reflashing Tiamat nether worked. Anyway from adb
adb remount
adb push su /system/bin/
adb shell
chmod 4755 /system/bin/su
exit
adb push Superuser.apk /system/app/
I then rebooted and had root... updated Superuser as I had an older one in my platform-tools and all is well I then flashed the lastest recovery in rom manger and still have root.
Hope this helps

Thanks. I will give it a try this evening when I get back from work.
Also found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14643716&postcount=340 which seems similar to your solution.

This is why I hate CWR. I wish we had Amon RA recovery.

How do I root a13 zeepad 7.0 tablet?

I tried searching on the forum for a13 allwinners zeepad 7.0 but can't find anything.
I bought this from amazon,
Android version:
4.0.4
Model number:
A13MID
Kernel Version: 3.0.8
Can someone help me root this tablet?

Anyone? :|

Baoish said:
Anyone? :|
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Zeepad comes rooted already, at least mine did...install superuser from market and any app that needs root permission, if your able to grant such permissions your rooted. Sorry i cant remember the command for adb or terminal emulator to get this answer quicker...

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deeno33 said:
Zeepad comes rooted already, at least mine did...install superuser from market and any app that needs root permission, if your able to grant such permissions your rooted. Sorry i cant remember the command for adb or terminal emulator to get this answer quicker...
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So, just install su and it will work?

deeno33 said:
Zeepad comes rooted already, at least mine did...install superuser from market and any app that needs root permission, if your able to grant such permissions your rooted. Sorry i cant remember the command for adb or terminal emulator to get this answer quicker...
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My daughter just got one of these devices for Christmas, as well. I saw this post as well and thought "Great, I don't have to do the part" so, I installed SuperUser, when I went to update the su binary, which was shown as "Legacy" it got all the way to where it needs to remount the / file system as rw, and to my surprise, it wont remount. Another thing I noticed was that even though it does have su installed, I can't get to the point to where the app even asks for root permission. I tried to update Busybox, as well, and it wouldn't let me even do that... The version which is installed to the tablet appears to be 1.18, but when SuperUser goes to update the su binary it reports back as being the same as the installed version, which I know for a fact that it is not. So while I do in fact have root, it seems to only be a partial root. Anyone willing to throw around some ideas as to where I can go from here to A) get the / file system to remount rw, and B) get SuperUser, an updated su binary and an updated Busybox installed so that I can a full root going and get down to business to installing CWM and CM10 installed and running on here for her.
Any help would be appreciated,
Matt

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meskes said:
My daughter just got one of these devices for Christmas, as well. I saw this post as well and thought "Great, I don't have to do the part" so, I installed SuperUser, when I went to update the su binary, which was shown as "Legacy" it got all the way to where it needs to remount the / file system as rw, and to my surprise, it wont remount. Another thing I noticed was that even though it does have su installed, I can't get to the point to where the app even asks for root permission. I tried to update Busybox, as well, and it wouldn't let me even do that... The version which is installed to the tablet appears to be 1.18, but when SuperUser goes to update the su binary it reports back as being the same as the installed version, which I know for a fact that it is not. So while I do in fact have root, it seems to only be a partial root. Anyone willing to throw around some ideas as to where I can go from here to A) get the / file system to remount rw, and B) get SuperUser, an updated su binary and an updated Busybox installed so that I can a full root going and get down to business to installing CWM and CM10 installed and running on here for her.
Any help would be appreciated,
Matt
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all zeepads come prerooted and shouldnt block u from updating or to have root access (download root checker) from market
Ur Binarys Should Still Update And Say Current If U Download New Binary Just Wont Show Up Till Reboot
If u Want To Stop This Error While Not Having To Reboot Everytime
Ya This IS Annoying to Do Everytime But Simple solution
THis Proplem IS Do To The Tablet Having A Stock Kernel That Doesnt Allow System Read/Write Access
This Is Why SuperUser Fails Cause It Needs Write Access To The Devices File System...(system/xbin/su)
Which means to Remount system after updating to take Affect And Most Stock Devices Do Not Allow This
so if u updated and it said current version ur ok this is to prevent anymore errors in the future
superuser can have different error witch mean different things just cuz u get one doesnt mean
they didnt take affect but remount of system is the most common error check superuser faq
1.Download Mount System R/W App From PlayStore And Install And Open.
2 .Allow Root Access To The App Then Select Mount System R/W Button
3. Press Home Button And Navigate To SuperUser App And Then Try Updating Binary
This Method Should Work For You
Hope This Works For You
As for cwm and cm9/cm10 it depends if u have a8 or a10 device a13 are not yet supported

MikeG_MG56 said:
all zeepads come prerooted and shouldnt block u from updating or to have root access (download root checker) from market
Ur Binarys Should Still Update And Say Current If U Download New Binary Just Wont Show Up Till Reboot
If u Want To Stop This Error While Not Having To Reboot Everytime
Ya This IS Annoying to Do Everytime But Simple solution
THis Proplem IS Do To The Tablet Having A Stock Kernel That Doesnt Allow System Read/Write Access
This Is Why SuperUser Fails Cause It Needs Write Access To The Devices File System...(system/xbin/su)
Which means to Remount system after updating to take Affect And Most Stock Devices Do Not Allow This
so if u updated and it said current version ur ok this is to prevent anymore errors in the future
superuser can have different error witch mean different things just cuz u get one doesnt mean
they didnt take affect but remount of system is the most common error check superuser faq
1.Download Mount System R/W App From PlayStore And Install And Open.
2 .Allow Root Access To The App Then Select Mount System R/W Button
3. Press Home Button And Navigate To SuperUser App And Then Try Updating Binary
This Method Should Work For You
Hope This Works For You
As for cwm and cm9/cm10 it depends if u have a8 or a10 device a13 are not yet supported
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Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but I got the a13 and was wondering if anyone was making a cm9/cm10 rom for it as well. I have the a13. I tried to Google and can't find any info about any custom roms for this device.

I used kingRoot version 4.1 Any newer version would not root it.

[Q] Non writable /system on Stock or something else?

I have done s-off via firewater, installed Philz CWM and done SU from there.
For all intents and purposes the system appears rooted (TiBu works, I get toast pop-ups etc).
I am also able to use ES File Explorer to mount /system as r/w.
I have also tried to remount system as r/w via adb shell.
All of these work as I am able to "touch /system/test.file" via adb and then delete it via ES File Explorer.
It would appear the system is writable.
However, when I try to install BusyBox from here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en
I get "Insufficient storage available" (and I have plenty of space).
I have found this information on modifying the kernel either through a boot.img or a .ko:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708686
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701816
But both have some indications that they may be out of date and cause problems with the latest release.
I'm not even sure I have to do either of these, because it appears writable from my tests.
It is possibly the busybox program - but that is the one I have used in the past.
I would like to find both a trusted way to install busybox AND understand why I might be getting this problem in the first place.
thanks

TraderJack said:
I have done s-off via firewater, installed Philz CWM and done SU from there.
For all intents and purposes the system appears rooted (TiBu works, I get toast pop-ups etc).
I am also able to use ES File Explorer to mount /system as r/w.
I have also tried to remount system as r/w via adb shell.
All of these work as I am able to "touch /system/test.file" via adb and then delete it via ES File Explorer.
It would appear the system is writable.
However, when I try to install BusyBox from here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en
I get "Insufficient storage available" (and I have plenty of space).
I have found this information on modifying the kernel either through a boot.img or a .ko:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708686
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701816
But both have some indications that they may be out of date and cause problems with the latest release.
I'm not even sure I have to do either of these, because it appears writable from my tests.
It is possibly the busybox program - but that is the one I have used in the past.
I would like to find both a trusted way to install busybox AND understand why I might be getting this problem in the first place.
thanks
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If you do try one of the kernel related solutions do the first one as the second is based on firmware we won't have until next week. Also here is a little trick you can try: navigate from the root directory to /data/data ND look for the Busybox folder and delete it then attempt reinstalling it from the play store. May or may not work but worth a shot.

S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
If you do try one of the kernel related solutions do the first one as the second is based on firmware we won't have until next week. Also here is a little trick you can try: navigate from the root directory to /data/data ND look for the Busybox folder and delete it then attempt reinstalling it from the play store. May or may not work but worth a shot.
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Well if you read the thread for the first link it looks like people are saying it was for the "older firmware" and people were having issues. I am not sure what "firmware" they are referring to, but the OP closed that thread and I am wary to use that since all of this stuff seems to be back from April and nothing more on it.
What do you mean about the second link not having firmware until next week? I don't see anything in there that talks about a particular firmware version. Also, I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2731893
That Rom uses 1.55.506.2 (latest OTA I believe???) and states that it is using flar's method from the second link....so I'm confused by your statements (but want to understand!).
I don't have any busybox folders in /data/data.
I'm having a similar problem trying to install Xposed as well:
"Xposed Installer couldn't be installed. Free up some space and try again"
I'm really not sure what's going on since it appears I have proper s-off and root using the standard methods. I can't believe no one else is trying to do these things on a stock ROM and not having issues :/
UPDATE: I'm thinking you meant the 4.4.3 update coming for us? That second thread has .ko for both 4.4.2 and 4.4.3.

UPDATE:
I went ahead and did another factory reset. This time, instead of using the Philz CMW option for "Re-root System (SuperSU)" I used the supersu.zip to flash superSU.
After that, when I went to try and install busybox and xposed I had no issues at all.
I'm not sure why the Philz option didn't work entirely...as it stated it worked, and appeared to give me root when launching my apps...maybe I should switch to TWRP :/

TraderJack said:
Well if you read the thread for the first link it looks like people are saying it was for the "older firmware" and people were having issues. I am not sure what "firmware" they are referring to, but the OP closed that thread and I am wary to use that since all of this stuff seems to be back from April and nothing more on it.
What do you mean about the second link not having firmware until next week? I don't see anything in there that talks about a particular firmware version. Also, I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2731893
That Rom uses 1.55.506.2 (latest OTA I believe???) and states that it is using flar's method from the second link....so I'm confused by your statements (but want to understand!).
I don't have any busybox folders in /data/data.
I'm having a similar problem trying to install Xposed as well:
"Xposed Installer couldn't be installed. Free up some space and try again"
I'm really not sure what's going on since it appears I have proper s-off and root using the standard methods. I can't believe no one else is trying to do these things on a stock ROM and not having issues :/
UPDATE: I'm thinking you meant the 4.4.3 update coming for us? That second thread has .ko for both 4.4.2 and 4.4.3.
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Yeah on the kernel my bad, didn't see it had a normal one for non 2.23 firmware users lol, if you don't wanna use that kernel you can always use one of the other ones, maybe Faux's or Evolutionmods kernel. I actually currently use Evolutions kernel and it's quite nice. Also that ROM will work fine I believe, quite sure 1.55 is the latest OTA and if not it doesn't really matter. All though as some people have stated on your previous thread (i think?) you might as well use an optimized stock ROM such as CleanROM or ARHD (Android Revolution HD 8.1), all it is is a stock ROM thats been optimized for better performance and maybe has some tweaks to make it better. To be clear on the ARHD ROM, I stated the version because any higher version than that is for 4.4.3 which we currently don't have the firmware for.
TraderJack said:
UPDATE:
I went ahead and did another factory reset. This time, instead of using the Philz CMW option for "Re-root System (SuperSU)" I used the supersu.zip to flash superSU.
After that, when I went to try and install busybox and xposed I had no issues at all.
I'm not sure why the Philz option didn't work entirely...as it stated it worked, and appeared to give me root when launching my apps...maybe I should switch to TWRP :/
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Glad you got your issue solved!

TraderJack said:
UPDATE:
I went ahead and did another factory reset. This time, instead of using the Philz CMW option for "Re-root System (SuperSU)" I used the supersu.zip to flash superSU.
After that, when I went to try and install busybox and xposed I had no issues at all.
I'm not sure why the Philz option didn't work entirely...as it stated it worked, and appeared to give me root when launching my apps...maybe I should switch to TWRP :/
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Just so you know, when asking the recovery to reroot the system it's going to use the supersu app packaged with the recovery. It's likely a much older supersu app. You're always better flashing the latest version from the recovery itself because you can be sure it's running the latest binaries. If you updated the app from the play store after installation it probably would've worked. It's also possible it simply just doesn't inject the file properly, but a flashable zip always will work.
I can assure you that philz is probably the most updated recovery. It runs very well and does everything it's supposed to do. Are you running the Verizon M8 build or the unified M8 build?
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BadUsername said:
Just so you know, when asking the recovery to reroot the system it's going to use the supersu app packaged with the recovery. It's likely a much older supersu app. You're always better flashing the latest version from the recovery itself because you can be sure it's running the latest binaries. If you updated the app from the play store after installation it probably would've worked. It's also possible it simply just doesn't inject the file properly, but a flashable zip always will work.
I can assure you that philz is probably the most updated recovery. It runs very well and does everything it's supposed to do. Are you running the Verizon M8 build or the unified M8 build?
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I did update to the latest version...the way Philz works is you choose the "Re-root option" and then it tells you to go and install SuperSU from the store. The only thing I may have done wrong (or misunderstood since it isn't well documented) is this was my "root" as opposed to my "re-root." By that, I mean I rooted originally with weaksauce to install firewater, but I used the Root option in Philz instead of the more discussed supersu.zip flash.
The weird thing about it was that root appeared to work properly. I got toast popups and could use things like TiBu. SuperSU said it was rooted, and Philz was passing the root check.
That should teach me from straying from the guides at all to use a feature not very well discussed.

TraderJack said:
I did update to the latest version...the way Philz works is you choose the "Re-root option" and then it tells you to go and install SuperSU from the store. The only thing I may have done wrong (or misunderstood since it isn't well documented) is this was my "root" as opposed to my "re-root." By that, I mean I rooted originally with weaksauce to install firewater, but I used the Root option in Philz instead of the more discussed supersu.zip flash.
The weird thing about it was that root appeared to work properly. I got toast popups and could use things like TiBu. SuperSU said it was rooted, and Philz was passing the root check.
That should teach me from straying from the guides at all to use a feature not very well discussed.
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Can't say I ever used that option, it probably just didn't flash it correctly. You may want to post the problem in the recovery thread so they know about it.
In theory it should've worked the same way as flashing the zip. The only thing I could think of is how old the binary was or the location of the flash was incorrect.
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Unofficial CM12.1 some root apps work some not

Hello guys, I am running unofficial CM12.1 on my LENOVO A6000 plus. It's running really very good in terms of performance as well as battery backup, but I am facing some problems.. Even though I have allowed root access to 'apps and adb', some root apps are not working while some are. For ex. Greenify is working great as well as root explorer, in there, I can mount system rw temporarily and delete or add something in system folder. But I can't do the same thing with built in CyanogenMod file manager. Rom toolbox is also not working. I have previously used Xperia U, rooted, bootloader unlocked, running CM11 or stock rom and never had such a problem.. Even on A6000 plus, running stock rom gave me full root access. A lot of searching only reveals me that CM12.1 comes pre rooted. Then why root is not working for me? In terminal emulator if I type 'su', $ changes to #, that means I have root access. My thinking says, it might be because my root partition is not mounted as rw by default that's why I am facing these problem.. What you, more experienced guys think?

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Nexus 7 2013 LTE: Unable to move app to system/priv-app

I am trying to move an app from /data/app to system/priv-app. I never encountered this issue before.
My Nexus 7 2013 LTE tablet (deb/razorg) was acting up and I had a bunch of apps on it. I figured the easiest thing to do is just wipe the thing and start fresh. So I used Nexus Root Toolkit to flash the latest version of stock OS (6.0.1 (MOB30X)) and then I rooted it using the latest Magisk (v18).
So I have root, I am able to see all the files in /. I tried using FX with mount R/W (tried mount R/W on "/", "/System" and "/system/priv-app") to copy the app folder from /data/app to /system/priv-app., however it failed.
I tried using 'App systemizer (Terminal emulator)' created by veez21 with Terminal emulator to move the app, but that didn't work either... despite App systemizer stated it was done.
I figured it could be the OS so i tried flashing it again and rerooting it again with Magisk, same issue and I tried an earlier version of the stock OS (6.0.1 (MMB30S)) same issue. Tried it again on the latest OS and this time rooted it with NRT instead of Magisk, same issue.
I clearly have root as titanium backup works fine with restoring apps.
So I think for some reason the OS is denying me write access to /system/priv-app, despite I did mount r/w.. I think I did all the steps correctly..so I am wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction. .. maybe I am missing a step somewhere..

pennywaltz said:
I am trying to move an app from /data/app to system/priv-app. I never encountered this issue before.
My Nexus 7 2013 LTE tablet (deb/razorg) was acting up and I had a bunch of apps on it. I figured the easiest thing to do is just wipe the thing and start fresh. So I used Nexus Root Toolkit to flash the latest version of stock OS (6.0.1 (MOB30X)) and then I rooted it using the latest Magisk (v18).
So I have root, I am able to see all the files in /. I tried using FX with mount R/W (tried mount R/W on "/", "/System" and "/system/priv-app") to copy the app folder from /data/app to /system/priv-app., however it failed.
I tried using 'App systemizer (Terminal emulator)' created by veez21 with Terminal emulator to move the app, but that didn't work either... despite App systemizer stated it was done.
I figured it could be the OS so i tried flashing it again and rerooting it again with Magisk, same issue and I tried an earlier version of the stock OS (6.0.1 (MMB30S)) same issue. Tried it again on the latest OS and this time rooted it with NRT instead of Magisk, same issue.
I clearly have root as titanium backup works fine with restoring apps.
So I think for some reason the OS is denying me write access to /system/priv-app, despite I did mount r/w.. I think I did all the steps correctly..so I am wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction. .. maybe I am missing a step somewhere..
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Let's try to cover the bases and go from there.
1) root checker verifies the device is rooted?
2) you have Magisk root manager installed?
3) you have the latest version of busybox installed and have granted it root permission.
4) you have gone to system settings>developer options>root access and have set root access to "apps and adb"? (you may or may not have this setting)
5) you have set mount R/W? (you have also granted your file manager/root explorer superuser/root permissions?)
6) your bootloader is unlocked? (this may or may not be necessary)
7) you have set your SELinux polcy to "permissive" mode instead of "enforcing mode? (this may or may not be necessary)
8) have you checked to see if there are any Magisk modules that you might need?
9) you said that Titanium Backup is working, Titanium Backup has a feature that converts user apps into system apps for you, have you tried this option?
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Droidriven said:
Let's try to cover the bases and go from there.
1) root checker verifies the device is rooted? Based Root Checker I am rooted
2) you have Magisk root manager installed? Yes I have Magisk Manager installed, safetynet passed
3) you have the latest version of busybox installed and have granted it root permission. Yes, installed to /system/sbin
4) you have gone to system settings>developer options>root access and have set root access to "apps and adb"? (you may or may not have this setting) Not an option
5) you have set mount R/W? (you have also granted your file manager/root explorer superuser/root permissions?) Yes, FX has roots right based on Supersu and i have mounted R/W prior to pasting it into the director
6) your bootloader is unlocked? (this may or may not be necessary) It is unlocked
7) you have set your SELinux polcy to "permissive" mode instead of "enforcing mode? (this may or may not be necessary) Base on App Systemizer, SE Enabled is False, therefore I assume it is off
8) have you checked to see if there are any Magisk modules that you might need? Not that I know of, I have moved this app as system without it on my Nexus 7 before without any other modules and also have done it on my Pixel 1 phone without it
9) you said that Titanium Backup is working, Titanium Backup has a feature that converts user apps into system apps for you, have you tried this option? Yup tried it, it just hangs there, nothing happens
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Sounds like I covered all my bases... so I am puzzled