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Galaxy Tab™ Conductive Stylus

I purchased a Galaxy Tab™ Conductive Stylus from the Samsung website, even though their site said it wouldn't work with the GT 8.9 for some reason. As far as I can tell, there isn't much difference in this stylus and all other conductive styluses (styli?). It behaves just like a finger, allowing you to select with the tip of the stylus. The tip is rounded and fat which makes it difficult for fine writing in notepad type apps. I have practiced for a few days and have become fairly proficient at using the stylus to underline in textbooks and word documents. It's also good for signing documents with the right app.
Overall I'm happy with the purchase. The stylus has a good weight and feels like a quality product. I'd definitely buy the stylus again, despite being a few dollars more than the other top quality styluses made by other companies.

I heard that drawing or writing on the tab is pretty abysmal due on the fact that the screen has such a low sensitivity. (like the 10.1)
How is your experience with this? Can you write or draw reallysmall and precise?
Sent from my GT-P7300

pseudoheld said:
I heard that drawing or writing on the tab is pretty abysmal due on the fact that the screen has such a low sensitivity. (like the 10.1)
How is your experience with this? Can you write or draw reallysmall and precise?
Sent from my GT-P7300
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I wouldn't say it's abysmal. I knew I wasn't getting a WACOM digitizer like I have on my tablet PC, or a stylus as good as the Lenovo android tablet but it does a decent job for what I wanted it for, which is marking up pdf files and maybe signing documents in the future. I added a capture of my handwriting taken at writing normal speed with no special care taken to be neat. You must subtract for my poor handwriting and the fact that the app I used doesn't have very good ignorance of a hand laying down, so my hand wasn't balanced on a flat surface as is the case when normally writing.

thanks for the answer!
will be getting a stylus anyhow so i guess i will see how its like

i just bought a stylus and i must say the screen sensitivity issue is pretty bad.
i tried the stylus with my NexusOne and it produced far better results.
the samsung screen seems slow and unresponsive to handwriting

Any chance it's your ICS ROM? I'm on Overcome ROM and it works pretty well. My wife even decided she liked the stylus with her 10.1 on Task's ROM and I ordered another from amazon.

tried it with both roms.
it just seems laggy and slow. it doesn't get small circles like "e" or "l"
but i messed around in the build.prop and it got a little better. still not what i wanted it to be though...

I agree, it's a bummer because I believe the size is perfect for a small sketchpad :/
If you want to take written notes thought download the ASUS Supernote app, you can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204931

i would advise everyone to use freenote.
so far its the most complete note taking app i found!

Thanks for the feedback.
I´m in love with this smaller size, but since I discovered how much better the notetaking thingy seems to be with the 10.1" and TouchScreenTune, and given that the dev didn´t offer many hopes at all for the 8.9", I´m torn again between these 2 devices.
Could you please clarify if the "sensitivity issue" is bad enough to affect the proper selection/highlighting of text?
Cheers

andario said:
Could you please clarify if the "sensitivity issue" is bad enough to affect the proper selection/highlighting of text?
Cheers
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nah selecting highlighting is no problem what soever. it is very precise its just when you loop you "L" or "O" that is sometimes doesn't detect it. but for light usage its fine. annotating or highlighting pdf works a treat.

pseudoheld said:
nah selecting highlighting is no problem what soever. it is very precise its just when you loop you "L" or "O" that is sometimes doesn't detect it. but for light usage its fine. annotating or highlighting pdf works a treat.
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Thanks mate, that was very helpful.

I think the sensitivity is great. I use SuperNote on my 8.9 all the time for taking notes. No issues whatsoever and better than many other tablets I tried. Writing with a conductive stylus is smooth (not broken) and easy. Of course the resolution isn't down to what you could do with pen and paper, but that's a fundamental limitation that most all tablets share except for those that are designed with some sort of active alternative. The touchscreens have to be calibrated to pick up our fat fingers so they are relatively coarse. It's really a compromise so you don't have to have a stylus to navigate the interface like the older generation of PDAs used. I think the 8.9 is great with something like SuperNote that can take your writing and shrink it down to a decent size and align it on a line. You should really check this app out if your interested in taking notes because it is really really cool. It's only distributed on asus tablets, but the apk is floating around.

Is the Pen Mightier?

So after giving this some thought this last week I decided to stick with the infinity over trading in for the Note 10.1. I just think the Infinity is superior product. I benchmark, stock and not rooted, at about 13,000 and I/O is and acceptable 450.
Obviously the big "breath taking" feature of the note is the S- Pen and in my opinion the biggest reason I might have had tablet envy. The pen is something that I can use on a daily basis for work since I take so many notes. I just can't get over the plastic, slow up dates from Samsung and no FHD screen. Also, the addition of the keyboard doc lets you take the Infinity to whole different level. I have set out to see if I can capture the "pen experience" in the Infinity and this is what I have found so far. I hope the rest of you will share ideas and experiences as well.
Stylus: I have tried several since I had a Asus Prime and found most not to be sufficient for my needs. The cheap ones are surely cheap and wear out quickly. Some even leave a residue behind on the screen. After several tries I have found the Adonit Jot Pro to be the most accurate and best all around for my needs. It works well when swiping the screen ( I only use it for that when I am using the jot pro to write with) and gives clear translation of what I write without skipping. I will probably order some extra discs right away since I can see that being a potential issue and could shut me down using until replacements arrive. One thing I do not like about the jot pro stylus is I wish they would have put one more revolution of threads on the cap. It has fallen off once and having the tip exposed while while carrying around could damage the disc. So be careful to make sure it is not cross threaded and put back in place securely.
Screen Protector: I had the Zagg protector but it is much to sticky to use with the jot stylus. I do not think it works well with any of them personally. I do not have a screen protector on my screen currently but have ordered and should recieve Monday clear Acaseview screen protector that was recommended in another post. I will update when I have installed and used
Software/ Apps: I am mainly using SuperNote to take my notes. It functions really well to take notes on the fly. I have several note books setup for various topics. I have also setup a notebook that has forms in it that use regularly and usually fill out using paper and pen. I scanned an image of each form and inserted them into a page in Supernote. When I go to fill them out I simply use the insert annotation feature and "bingo" I have a non paper version of the form that I can archive and retrieve at any time.
One challenge of Supernote is that it is not too strong on export natively. You can either export to an .SNE file which can be read by nothing but supernote or share via email or other apps. There is no .pdf function built in which would be great if ASUS would update this functionality. My solution to this is to share everything to Evernote where you can pretty much do anything you want to with the information at that point. The possibilities are endless. By using the recent apps list it is very easy to switch between both and if you use overskreen as a browser you get that placebo effect of multi tasking ( ok, maybe not.)
Another useful program to share to is scan to pdf and you can skip Evernote altogether.
On a side note I found it interesting that the day the Samsung was launched the ICS+ browser and google release a beta that allowed you to write your search criteria that was converted to text in the search box.
These are just a few ideas that I have come up with in just a few days. I am happily taking notes on my infinity and my eyes love me for full HD. I am sure there is more out there and more to come. I look forward to learning more from those of you that care to share what you have come up with.

Nice post, and great to see what you've come up with. I am still in doubt about using a screen protector (not so much for the protection, but for the glare reduction), so I'll keep an eye on what you think of your soon-to-come addition. I do not take notes that religiously -- that's not true, to be honest; I take notes all the times, but on paper next to my 700 -- so I'll have to remind me to give Overskreen and SuperNote a whirl.

Update to Screen Protector
An update that the acaseview screen protector works great with the adonit jot pro stylus. Pen moves just as freely as if there was not a screen protector on and recognition of hand writing is great. The screen protector fits the tf700 perfectly and seems to be high quality. Here is the amazon link to the version I purchased.
http://www.amazon.com/Transformer-T...eywords=acaseview+screen+protector+asus+tf700

How do you deal with your palm messing things up? I assume with the Note that wouldn't be a problem since the stylus isn't capacitive.

I'd have to recommend the sensu brush or the truglide stylus.

P!X3L said:
I'd have to recommend the sensu brush or the truglide stylus.
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Got the Sensu brush yesterday. Very nice.

okantomi said:
Got the Sensu brush yesterday. Very nice.
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I've only had mine for a couple weeks but it really is the best I've used. The apps are somewhat limited, but that will all change sooner or later. For now, I'm loving the Sensu Brush and Photoshop Touch.

hajalie24 said:
How do you deal with your palm messing things up? I assume with the Note that wouldn't be a problem since the stylus isn't capacitive.
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Maybe it is my writing style but I seem to not have a problem with my palm "messing things up"
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I'd have to recommend the sensu brush or the truglide stylus.
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I will have to give the sensu a try. I looked at the truglide but passed because it was so much shorter than a regular pen. I see now that they do offer a full size stylus so it may work great as well.

Agree for pen part, but the true strength to my surprise on galaxy note is speed and stability. I have encountered only a single crush after 30 to 40 hours of use. As stable as iOS perhaps better. But I do miss hd resolution.

[Q] Galaxy note pro 12 handwriting

Hey folks. i did a whole lot of research on buying this.
Considering that it is quite expensive, and the facts below:
1) i dont have a laptop beyond work laptop
2) i do have a desktop pc
I was thinking whether it is worthwhile getting this and it all comes down to how good its handwriting function is as it is the only thing making it worthwhile for me.
I read reviews etc. I tried one at a shop (though they dont keep the s pen on the device to avoid help, therefore my play time was rather limited, and it was on 10.1 inch version).
I wanted to ask those that use this for notes e.g. lecture notes, or business meetings; how fast can you actually write on this thing?
Our natural handwriting is for sure faster, however i wanted to have a realistic picture on the device's ability to be used for such purposes. I assume that its a matter of getting used to it? Is there a way to adjust/reduce latency?
Other than that, from current long stand owners, any advice regarding buying or not?

Personally I had purchased the tablet not only to serve as my primary media consumption device but also as a note taking device for my business meetings. Having tried a gamut of note taking applications and settling on one (LectureNotes) I'd say that you need not worry about the lack of performance with regard to natural handwriting note taking. You will surely find an application that will suit your needs (it is quite possible that the S-Note app that is built in will work perfectly for you as well).
I recall seeing that you asked about the potential lag during pen input when note taking. For note taking applications where you're writing directly onto a virtual piece of paper the input is practically instantaneous. If there's any lag it is not so much that it would be distracting.
The tablet also allows text input into text fields using handwriting as an alternative to keyboard use. This function works fairly well but here because it is doing OCR of your handwriting input will lag a little and you'll undoubtedly have errors (the frequency of which is a function of your handwriting legibility).

thanks for the quick reply. I think you have helped me!
Basically i do not care so much about the OCR speed, as much as i care about the effectiveness of this device as a replacement of pen and paper. This is what i will be trying to do. Getting the 12.2 will essentially be almost equivalent as an A4 paper. If i am happy about the handwriting capture speed and effectiveness it will mean that i will be digitizing my handwritten notes, which will enable better organisation etc. Tonite may be the night i press BUY ..
Thanks for your help. If you have more feedback, i will gladly take it!

Yes you'll definitely like it for this. Most note taking apps allow export to PDF as well so you can save your notes for use elsewhere. This comes in very handy!

I have used my note to replace paper notes. I'm a college student and take lots of notes, this device allows me to take my notes as fast as I do on paper. With the added benefit of changing colors, highlighting, etc.
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In terms of handwriting on a notetaking app, workst excellent. It does take some getting used to because you're not encourntering the same resistance as you do on a physical piece of paper. There's virtually no lag. (A few milliseconds, but that's the limitations of technology. You probably won't notice it if you're not used to noticing it.)
The OCR isn't infallable. I've had a friend who's a doctor try to use the direct handwriting input in my calendar, the result was a language I'm fairly sure nobody on this planet has ever heard of. (I'm still not sure what it is I'm supposed to do tomorrow... :laugh: )
I should mention I'm used to working with Wacom pens as I'm a long-time Intuos user (In Photoshop) and I own a Note 3.
I've also bought a Wacom Bamboo Feel for Note, because to me the Spen feels too small for lengthy use. (It's fine on my Note 3, but not on 12.2"). The plastic one is nice and light, but the carbon one feels really awesome. Too bad it's another 50 quid over the plastic one...

Great question and answers. I am also looking at this tablet primarily as a note taking tool for Graduate school but I'm torn between getting the 10in or 12in. Does anyone here have experience with both of these sizes when it comes to taking lecture notes?
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LonelyTV said:
Great question and answers. I am also looking at this tablet primarily as a note taking tool for Graduate school but I'm torn between getting the 10in or 12in. Does anyone here have experience with both of these sizes when it comes to taking lecture notes?
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Yes. Personally I prefer the 12.2" because it's almost the exact size of an A4 paper. So no need to adapt to a smaller size. To me, on my 10.1" tablet, I kept running out of screen in the middle of my writing. Not to mention it was a little uncomfortable because your hand floats in mid air when writing anywhere but the middle of the screen. The 12.2" has almost 50% more screen.

[Q] Help a newbie out !

Well, I've been drawing for a long time on pc with a wacom and would like to go portable. Before the announcement of Shield I was going for a Galaxy Note 8 but since this is cheaper and better in performance-wise, Would you recommend for drawing ?
I mean could it replace my wooden pen and paper sketchbook on the go?
I've done my share and read a bit and found out wifi and cracks issue which doesn't bother me since my main purpose is drawing.
Which would you recommend for drawing ?
Note 8 VS SHIELD TAB

You have to ask yourself if you want to learn a new way to draw with a stylus. Pressure Sensivity is achieved on an other way then with the "normal" digitser stylus. Reminds me more to draw with an knife sharpened Pencil then with something where you only have to press harder to get thicker lines
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Very frustrating. I tried to post a link of a picture I made using Nvidia dabbler but I'm too new.

The Galaxy Note 8 will be much more accurate in drawing that the Shield tablet since it uses Wacom tech to power the stylus.

l wouldn't be to sure about acuracy It's really a skill to work with this stylus , you can train that. Owned a Galaxy Note Tab 10.1 Edition 2014. For handwriting in the beginning the better choice , but I think you would get nearly the same quality with an Direct Stylus optimized writing / office app.
l mean sometimes I'm wishing it wouldn't be so accurate , so you wouldn't notice my bad handwriting.
Just played around with an drawing App (Art Flow). You maybe can see that you can have very detailed structures and lines.
That's only achieved by turning the stylus while drawing. No extra pressure needed.
But you really have to try this. Maybe you have an friend whitch can lent you the Shield Tablet for a try or go to a store and test this.
The main thing to improve is the palm recognition. But it also seems to depend on the implementation in the App.
Really like the stylus more and more, even for writing.
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Handwritten notes with the Shield Tablet

Hello guys,
First of all I'm sorry if my grammar or general "english use" sucks but be patient, it's not my mother language.
I would like to ask some help taking a decision.
Let me introduce my needs first:
I'm on the market to replace my old and trusty iPad mini (i know, i know Apple's devices bring horrible nightmares to all XDA users). I'd want a compact tablet (8" to 8.4 screen) that can easily slide in my bag and follow me everywhere, from university lectures to various trips. One of the main function I'd want to improve on is handwritten notes: as it is on my iPad i can't do it and I end up simply downloading professor's slides to read them easier but still writing up to 3000 pages of notes per year, and you know that paper loves to get lost or hide when you need it. Combining it with the constant need of raw power for games i'm left with very few choices, none of them 100% suited for me (unless Samsung decides to include his majesty the S-pen on the Tab S 8.4).
So, coming back to what i'm willing to ask to you, Nvidia Shield Tablet owners: would you reccomend this tablet for hand written notes? And by that i mean: writing on this tablet is almost as fast and comfortable as writing on the good old paper with an ink pen?
If not, what else would you buy, considering that the ability to run smoothly something like Asphalt 8 it's a must have?
Thank you very much in advance.
Matteo

I bought this tablet to replace a Galaxy Note 10.1
I use the Shield Tablet with the MyScript Smart Note app.
Comparing this to Galaxy Note 10.1 + LectureNotes app (My fav at the time of ownership), it's pretty close, but not quite as good.
Writing is accurate enough for me, but not quite as good as the note.
And the smaller screen makes it a little harder to write as well (Worth it for the smaller size to carry around though).
Compared to paper, I think the convenience is way better.
The only real downside there is the lack of friction on the 'paper'.
Even with an invisishield screen protector, the tablet writes a lot smoother than a piece of paper. This is by far the biggest downside in my opinion, but it's easy enough to get used to.

Great Tablet for everything not just writing
DemiosNC said:
Hello guys,
First of all I'm sorry if my grammar or general "english use" sucks but be patient, it's not my mother language.
I would like to ask some help taking a decision.
Let me introduce my needs first:
I'm on the market to replace my old and trusty iPad mini (i know, i know Apple's devices bring horrible nightmares to all XDA users). I'd want a compact tablet (8" to 8.4 screen) that can easily slide in my bag and follow me everywhere, from university lectures to various trips. One of the main function I'd want to improve on is handwritten notes: as it is on my iPad i can't do it and I end up simply downloading professor's slides to read them easier but still writing up to 3000 pages of notes per year, and you know that paper loves to get lost or hide when you need it. Combining it with the constant need of raw power for games i'm left with very few choices, none of them 100% suited for me (unless Samsung decides to include his majesty the S-pen on the Tab S 8.4).
So, coming back to what i'm willing to ask to you, Nvidia Shield Tablet owners: would you reccomend this tablet for hand written notes? And by that i mean: writing on this tablet is almost as fast and comfortable as writing on the good old paper with an ink pen?
If not, what else would you buy, considering that the ability to run smoothly something like Asphalt 8 it's a must have?
Thank you very much in advance.
Matteo
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First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the year.
I own a LG G Pad 8.3 and a Nvidia shield tablet (NST). The NST is recently purchased so I cannot say its perfect yet when it comes to writing. In my opinion the option of having palm rejection in the NST is delightful which makes writing comfortable. I am currently using Smart note as well but I also use WPS Office (kingsoft Office)--(with the stylus beta app) for handwriting and converting into text if I need something compatible with Microsoft word. The stylus is slippery on the NST I had better control with the LG since I had a screen protector and was using the joint sylus pro which I think is amazing for writing. ( I am actually thinking of adding a screen protector just to use the joint stylus pro with the NST because rumor has it it scratches the screen). The hand recognition in the NST is really good and I think good apps from the play store will give you the experience you are looking for.
I hope this helps, if you have questions I am happy to assist.
sorry if the writing is messy but I got to go for now.
Good luck
FYI I am also in UNI and I do a lot of writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you

OneNote. Just use OneNote. With this tablet, it is by far, par.
Edit: OneNote w/ IFTTT. I'm getting some stuff DONE!

Thank you everyone for the support, now for each answer:
Eogram said:
I bought this tablet to replace a Galaxy Note 10.1 [...] is by far the biggest downside in my opinion, but it's easy enough to get used to.
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So, as I was thinking, the Note family from Samsung is still the best for notes in your experience? Frankly, I'm not a kid anymore (unfortunately) so if I have to choose beetwen "usefulness" and games I have to pick the first to justify the money spent...
Moeali8 said:
First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the [...] writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
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The G-Pad was one of my first thoughts having a G3 wich I'm loving (almost), but I'm not sure it is an improvement in practicality over the iPad.
I've seen that wierd stylus and I thought it was insanely expensive, but now I see it's only 30$...Worth it?
Being an automotive engineering student, my notes are all about graphs, schemes and sketches so I need accuracy and predictibility in how the tablet translates my movements as well as a reliable software that ignores palm and wrist inputs on the screen (that's my biggest complain on the iPad).
mrm0rbid99 said:
OneNote. Just use OneNote. With this tablet, it is by far, par.
Edit: OneNote w/ IFTTT. I'm getting some stuff DONE!
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OneNote relies on the NST stylus recognition or it has a built-in feature?
Side note: the Nexus 9....looks goood another contender? xD

DemiosNC said:
Thank you everyone for the support, now for each answer:
So, as I was thinking, the Note family from Samsung is still the best for notes in your experience? Frankly, Im not a kid anymore (unfortunately) so if I have to choose beetwen "usefulness" and games I have to pick the first to justify the money spent.
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If I was looking for a serious note taking piece of hardware... Yeah, I'd probably go with a note. I would also probably invest in a separate active stylus to use with it. The Note 10.1(2012) came with a pretty cheap feeling one. Light hollow plastic, not fun to use.
What you lose by going that route is a good AOSP-like experience. I don't like Samsung S touch wiz ui at all. And you can flash an aosp rom on it, but the stylus loses some features.

Eogram said:
If I was looking for a serious note taking piece of hardware... Yeah, I'd probably go with a note. I would also probably invest in a separate active stylus to use with it. The Note 10.1(2012) came with a pretty cheap feeling one. Light hollow plastic, not fun to use.
What you lose by going that route is a good AOSP-like experience. I don't like Samsung S touch wiz ui at all. And you can flash an aosp rom on it, but the stylus loses some features.
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I don't have the exact english phrase to say that but I'll translate litterally: seems like you're reading my toughts...
I spent the last 4 years of my life as an Apple fan boy because i was thinking that android was only Samsung...The touchwiz is insanely overloaded so that is my biggest concern about following the "samsung route"...
Anyways, today I took a look at the tab s 8.4 in first person and I have to admit that the display is amazing...Colors are cartoonish but so appealing I can't ignore it...
Unfortunately I'm not able to find a store with an NST to try here in Italy...

I was playing today with the note pro from Samsung and I must say that it is for note taking way better then the nVidia Shield Tablet I own myself although I hate the touch wiz layer. Nevertheless I use one note now on my NST for note taking.
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Congrats
Moeali8 said:
First of I would like to tell you I faced your problem at the beginning of the year.
I own a LG G Pad 8.3 and a Nvidia shield tablet (NST). The NST is recently purchased so I cannot say its perfect yet when it comes to writing. In my opinion the option of having palm rejection in the NST is delightful which makes writing comfortable. I am currently using Smart note as well but I also use WPS Office (kingsoft Office)--(with the stylus beta app) for handwriting and converting into text if I need something compatible with Microsoft word. The stylus is slippery on the NST I had better control with the LG since I had a screen protector and was using the joint sylus pro which I think is amazing for writing. ( I am actually thinking of adding a screen protector just to use the joint stylus pro with the NST because rumor has it it scratches the screen). The hand recognition in the NST is really good and I think good apps from the play store will give you the experience you are looking for.
I hope this helps, if you have questions I am happy to assist.
sorry if the writing is messy but I got to go for now.
Good luck
FYI I am also in UNI and I do a lot of writing ( recently a 30,000 word document on my lg g pad) so I feel you
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First congrats on the Tab S 8.4 and you are right amazing screen, really vivid and nice colors I've always liked Samsung's screens; unfortunately it stops at their screens . But why didnt you take a note if you wanted the S-pen and S-notes. Any way I hope it works out for you. Some great apps are Smart notes which has good hand recognition and lecture notes where I thing would help you with your graphing.
Regrading the LG G Pad 8.3 I'm still using it for standard media consumption like reading and browsing the net while my NST is mainly for games and the occasional web surf if its in my hands. And I'm still using the LG for writing my notes via Kingsoft office and stylus beta has my input method (best hand to text app i've used)
Anyways good luck.