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Best WINDSHIELD car mount

I know there are a few threads on this, but they are cluttered with talk about non-windshield mounting docks/mounts and what apps launch.
My mission is to find the best windshield mounting car dock/cradle/whatever for the HTC Sensation. It has to be tight, so no "goosenecks." No universal junk either.
Options so far:
1) OEM HTC Car dock
The problem with this one seems to be that the "arm" of the mount isn't long enough and may not fit in portrait mode if your windshield is too "raked" (angled). It will hit the windshield in some cases.
I was reading another thread where one of the posters reviewed it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16385008&postcount=117
2) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Windshi...ccessories&hash=item20c2736c35#ht_1268wt_1139
3) http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Car-Win...ccessories&hash=item231333bc36#ht_2876wt_1139 - Looks like this arm would be too short as well
Suggestions??
Right now I have a OEM mount for my Motorola Milestone (Droid) which worked perfectly:
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The arm was long enough to allow the phone to swivel to any postition without hitting the windshield and it also came up far away from the windshield close to my fingers. Just for reference, I drive a 1994 BMW 325i (E36).

Check out the Arkon Series Mounts. I had the S514 for my DZ, which is a little small for the Sensation but will be ordering Deluxe Mini Mount. At $15, they are great quality products and a good value. Highly recommend.
http://www.arkon.com/smartphone-car-mount.html

Interesting, looks like the deluxe has more movement than the regular mini. I say that because it looks like it has an extra joint. Why is it cheaper than the regular Arkon mini mount? Any idea if it has a magnet so that the phone knows it is "docked"? On my motorola with CM7 this would (at the very least, with Car Home uninstalled), keep the screen on without dimming.

gbarayah said:
Check out the Arkon Series Mounts. I had the S514 for my DZ, which is a little small for the Sensation but will be ordering Deluxe Mini Mount. At $15, they are great quality products and a good value. Highly recommend.
http://www.arkon.com/smartphone-car-mount.html
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I know the OP doesn't like the "crappy universal" mounts, but the universal one I use is the Arkon MG115. And I can say it's beyond crappy universal lol. It's well made. I assume that the OP meant the universal no-name brand with bad build quality.
The reason I opted for the universal one is because I use different cases depending on where I am using the phone. If I am on vacation, I will bring this to use with my Seidio Active case. Otherwise I use an Aprolink hybrid case, which is a bit thinner.
The mini mount I use can be mounted on the dash with the disk you see there and also can be mounted on the windshield of course. But users may vary. Some may not like it and some like other "styles". I posted some personal pics a while back if anyone wants to take a gander let me know, I'll dig em up.
And on a related note, I have been using various docks from craigsdocks.com and they recently released a specific swivel dock made for the Senny and can be adjusted for cases or extended batteries like the Mugen batteries.
http://www.craigsdocks.com/htc-sensation-car-dock-swivel-style/

kpjimmy said:
I know the OP doesn't like the "crappy universal" mounts, but the universal one I use is the Arkon MG115. And I can say it's beyond crappy universal lol. It's well made. I assume that the OP meant the universal no-name brand with bad build quality.
The reason I opted for the universal one is because I use different cases depending on where I am using the phone. If I am on vacation, I will bring this to use with my Seidio Active case. Otherwise I use an Aprolink hybrid case, which is a bit thinner.
The mini mount I use can be mounted on the dash with the disk you see there and also can be mounted on the windshield of course. But users may vary. Some may not like it and some like other "styles". I posted some personal pics a while back if anyone wants to take a gander let me know, I'll dig em up.
And on a related note, I have been using various docks from craigsdocks.com and they recently released a specific swivel dock made for the Senny and can be adjusted for cases or extended batteries like the Mugen batteries.
http://www.craigsdocks.com/htc-sensation-car-dock-swivel-style/
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Yes, I just meant something of quality. The Arkon MG115 is the Arkon Mobile Grip Mini on their site. I'll probably go either with this or MG114, the "deluxe." Are the little arms padded? Phone doesn't slowly slide down from vibrations? Do the little arms come over the front of the screen once mounted?
I forgot to mention it should allow the camera to see through the mount.
Keep em coming. If someone has pictures of the OEM car dock mounted on a windshield, please post them

I chose the M115 only because I know myself, I would continue to adjust the middle joint to the point of breaking lol. So I opted for the shorty that couldn't be adjusted in the mid arm. I can still swivel pretty well with the dock. And I use this mount with Waze navigation all thetime and take pics to report accidents, traffic conditions, etc.

I had one of these (link to dealextreme) for my X10i and it was a perfect fit. Currently my wife uses one on her HD7 and it's terrific. And you can't really beat the price.
The only dig I have with the oem dock is that it's too easy to pop out the phone. But I loved having the plug in the base.
edit: aaah, i checked out those ebay links. It looks the same except for the different suction holder. Well, the phone cradles on those, in my experience, have all been perfect.

So you have the OEM dock? Can you put the phone into portrait without hitting the windshield?
Do you have pictures of the dealextreme mount? Saw those on ebay as well...
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Flyview said:
So you have the OEM dock? Can you put the phone into portrait without hitting the windshield?
Do you have pictures of the dealextreme mount? Saw those on ebay as well...
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App
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Yup, I have the Sensation OEM car dock. I'm not sure on the windshield, I keep mine behind the gear lever (easier to swipe to change songs, car already has navi). I'll try on the windshield tomorrow and let you know.
I have the dealextreme mount for the HD7, I can take some photos of it with the HD7 if that's what you're asking?

totalundone said:
Yup, I have the Sensation OEM car dock. I'm not sure on the windshield, I keep mine behind the gear lever (easier to swipe to change songs, car already has navi). I'll try on the windshield tomorrow and let you know.
I have the dealextreme mount for the HD7, I can take some photos of it with the HD7 if that's what you're asking?
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Yes, take pictures of both please! I used to keep my Droid mounted up near the mirror with the phone coming within reach of my fingers just off the steering wheel. This way if I did need to look at the phone, the road and traffic is still in the line of sight.
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OEM for the win
I went with OEM after trying a Universal T-Mobile car mount they have at the store for $30 bucks, but my Sensation went flying off the windshield after the first tight turn I took together with that universal mount, so it didn't work for me. OEM works well so far, but after trying it mounted on the windshield (which worked well) I ended up putting it on the dash so it doesn't block the windshield at all while being within reach.
May I ask why you're only set on mounting it on the windshield?

Homemade Mount
I actually made my own. I picked up a Garmin Nuvi mount off eBay. I dremeled the clips/tabs off to give a flat surface. Then I used industrial double sided tape to attach a cheap version of a Case Mate barely there cover. The setup works pretty good. I've never had the phone fall out or the mount come off.
I'll post some pics of it when I get the chance.

Flyview said:
I know there are a few threads on this, but they are cluttered with talk about non-windshield mounting docks/mounts and what apps launch.
My mission is to find the best windshield mounting car dock/cradle/whatever for the HTC Sensation. It has to be tight, so no "goosenecks." No universal junk either.
Options so far:
1) OEM HTC Car dock
The problem with this one seems to be that the "arm" of the mount isn't long enough and may not fit in portrait mode if your windshield is too "raked" (angled). It will hit the windshield in some cases.
I was reading another thread where one of the posters reviewed it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16385008&postcount=117
2) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Windshi...ccessories&hash=item20c2736c35#ht_1268wt_1139
3) http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Car-Win...ccessories&hash=item231333bc36#ht_2876wt_1139 - Looks like this arm would be too short as well
Suggestions??
Right now I have a OEM mount for my Motorola Milestone (Droid) which worked perfectly:
The arm was long enough to allow the phone to swivel to any postition without hitting the windshield and it also came up far away from the windshield close to my fingers. Just for reference, I drive a 1994 BMW 325i (E36).
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This the one I have works great with my sensation. Got it a year ago for $20 from best buy mobile.
http://www.amazon.ca/Windshield-Vent-Car-Mount-Smartphones/dp/B003SE6LD0

serega12 said:
I went with OEM after trying a Universal T-Mobile car mount they have at the store for $30 bucks, but my Sensation went flying off the windshield after the first tight turn I took together with that universal mount, so it didn't work for me. OEM works well so far, but after trying it mounted on the windshield (which worked well) I ended up putting it on the dash so it doesn't block the windshield at all while being within reach.
May I ask why you're only set on mounting it on the windshield?
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Do you remember if it fit in portrait mode?
I am kind of in love with my car so I would never stick anything on the dash or heaven forbid drill holes haha.
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ak29 said:
This the one I have works great with my sensation. Got it a year ago for $20 from best buy mobile.
http://www.amazon.ca/Windshield-Vent-Car-Mount-Smartphones/dp/B003SE6LD0
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Thanks for the suggestion but that kind of neck would definitely be shakey. Also, no hole for the camera. I would like to be able to take videos.
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Flyview said:
Thanks for the suggestion but that kind of neck would definitely be shakey. Also, no hole for the camera. I would like to be able to take videos.
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Its not shaky at all for me. Plus it comes with the vent add on so you dont have to use the neck with the windshield if you dont want. Also my phone is held in place by the sides so I can prop it up higher and use the camera if you like also. There are many options with this mount and can be used with many different devices and later on when you get another phone it will work that also. I used to use it for my desire and now I use it for my sensation. Ive also used it with a garmin and ipod touch. Not trying to tell sell it lol. Just saying you should check it out and give a proper run first before dismissing it.

Flyview said:
Do you remember if it fit in portrait mode?
I am kind of in love with my car so I would never stick anything on the dash or heaven forbid drill holes haha.
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Well if it's well done, then I would personally do it. But I mod my cars a bit as well, like my phone lol.....So I have no problems putting a drill bit to my dash

Flyview said:
So you have the OEM dock? Can you put the phone into portrait without hitting the windshield?
Do you have pictures of the dealextreme mount? Saw those on ebay as well...
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App
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Here it is in portrait. Here it is in the regular spot next to the deal extreme type of stand (for the HD7, similar size but it won't fit the sensation). Here it is horizontal.
In all the photos, the usb plug is on the bottom. The angle is a little steep, I think if I had rotated it and then adjusted it, it would have been ok. Adjusting it is pretty stiff so I don't like changing too much, lol.

totalundone said:
Here it is in portrait. Here it is in the regular spot next to the deal extreme type of stand (for the HD7, similar size but it won't fit the sensation). Here it is horizontal.
In all the photos, the usb plug is on the bottom. The angle is a little steep, I think if I had rotated it and then adjusted it, it would have been ok. Adjusting it is pretty stiff so I don't like changing too much, lol.
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Awesome, thanks for the pics man. Looks like it's not too bad with hitting the windshield. It'd be nice if it came out a little further though. I wonder how the dealextreme one goes on the windshield. That long neck doesn't bend right?

Flyview said:
Awesome, thanks for the pics man. Looks like it's not too bad with hitting the windshield. It'd be nice if it came out a little further though. I wonder how the dealextreme one goes on the windshield. That long neck doesn't bend right?
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The silver neck on the OEM dock is extendable to get it further away from the glass if needed. Also, T-Mobile had our docks on sale as of a week or so ago in their stores for 39.99... Worth checking it out, they have a great return policy if it doesn't work for you.

Cover-Mate Desktop Cradle for HTC One S Review

Mobile Fun sent this to me today, so a mini review of it below
http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1089397-cover-mate-desktop-cradle/
Once again, thanks to Mobile-Fun for providing me with the Cover-Mate desktop cradle for the HTC One S to review.
They have a huge range of desktop cradles for a whole lot of mobiles, so be sure to have a look to see if there is a nice cradle/desk stand for your mobile
Their customer service is top quality, especially delivery times, dispatched yesterday around 16:00 via Royal Mail First Class and received this morning around 10:30, every other etailer using the same shipping method always takes at least 2 days to get here.
Packaging:
The dock arrived in a standard see through rectangular plastic box. Be very careful when opening the package and removing the card board box containing the cradle though, as I managed to cut my finger on the relatively sharp corners of the plastic box
Within the box, we are supplied with the following:
User Manual
Cradle
USB Cable
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Lets take a look at the features first:
Syncs and charges your device at the same time
Allows horizontal viewing media
Stylish black finish
Net Weight: 90g
Dimension: 140 x 50 x 30 mm
Input: DC 5V 500mA
Output: DC 5V 500mA
Removable Insert to allow mobiles with a case attached to be docked as well
One of the features stated on Mobile-Fun's product description page is the following:
LED light indicator
However, there is no LED light indicator on the cradle. Not that it is needed for the One S as it already has a notification LED, which is orange when charging.
The dock is very well built, it feels solid and not cheaply made/put together unlike a lot of other cradles. It has a glossy finish on the front, where as on the back it is just your standard/plain plastic with no glossy finish, I personally would have preferred it to be the exact same on the front as well, however, all in all it looks nice anyway, just a bit more on the "cheap" side, in terms of looks for the front. All the edges are nicely rounded and smooth to touch.
One particular feature of this cradle is to support mobiles even with a case attached, in order to do this you have to remove the "removable insert" which increases the size of the docking area (will look at this later on to see how handy this is , if you aren't using a case and keep your mobile "naked" then simply "plug" the "removable insert" back in.
The cradle has a nice weight to it, it isn't too heavy and not too light (90g), it is a decent size as well (140 x 50 x 30 mm), obviously it is wider than most cradles as the One S micrco USB port is on the side as opposed to the more common place, the bottom of the mobile.
The USB cable that is supplied with the cradle is long enough for average sized desks, would have liked it to have been a bit longer. A bit of force is required in order to remove the Micro USB from the cradle.
On the bottom of the cradle you have four rubber mounts, this is to provide some grip when sat on the desk and to stop the cradle from scratching your desk. They feel like they are strongly glued on and won't come off with ease any time soon.
Cradle In Action:
Plugging the mobile in and removing it is easy enough, a bit of force is required to remove the One S, so you will need to hold the dock down whilst removing the device.
The mobile sits at a slight angle, there is no way to adjust the angle yourself.
With the "removable insert" removed, the One S with the Case-Mate Tough attached, fitted perfectly well , as well as the TPU gel case. I imagine that this will work with the majority of cases, maybe a few exceptions i.e. some of the Otterbox cases. I honestly was not expecting the One S to fit with the Tough case attached.
Case Mate Tough attached to the S and placed in the Cradle:
TPU Gel Case attached to the S and placed in the cradle:
The One S "naked" and placed in the Cradle:
I know for some other cradles, cases attached are a big problem, some only work with the thin hard plastic cases attached.
I was a bit disappointed in some ways when I found out that the One S micro USB port was on the side as I really wanted a cradle that would keep the device vertical whilst charging at the same time (you can get cradles like this for the S etc. however, it isn't as convenient as simply just plug in and remove, you have to place the device in the cradle and then plug in a USB cable thus a bit more hassle is involved then). However, in some ways it is actually better that the USB port is on the side regarding cradles as it now means that you can watch TV via TV catchup app, watch a film/TV episode or play a N64 game using a PS3/X360 controller WHILST charging at the same time and in landscape mode, so I have no complaints about the USB port on the side
Conclusion:
I am very impressed with this desktop cradle overall, I knew that I would like it before I even got it today going by the pics etc. however, having used it now, I am even more impressed.
The only thing, which I would have liked is for there to be no gloss finish at all as generally glossy plastic is rather cheap looking IMO and the cradle most certainly does not feel cheaply made.
It does exactly what is required but goes one step further in regards to the "removable insert", which allows me to use the cradle even when I have the Case Mate Tough attached to the S.
It is maybe a bit on the expensive side (£17.95), however, looking at what else there is on Mobile Fun and other sites, there doesn't appear to be anything that competes with this cradle when it comes to the looks/build and most importantly allowing mobiles with cases attached to be docked, whilst being able to charge at the same time.
The only "real" con of the entire "package" was the packaging itself Just need to be a little bit more careful.
Pros:
Stylish Look
Perfect fit even with a thick case attached to the S
Good Build Quality
Cons:
Packaging has sharp corners/edges
Glossy Finish on the front
Thanks for reading and I hope this review has been helpful and as always any questions, ask away
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Does the phone go into dock mode when plugging it in?
Is it easy to insert or do you have to fiddle with getting the port aligned with the connector? (scratching phone, etc)
Thx

pwkpete said:
Does the phone go into dock mode when plugging it in?
Is it easy to insert or do you have to fiddle with getting the port aligned with the connector? (scratching phone, etc)
Thx
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Nope, the phone doesn't go into dock mode.
It is pretty tricky the first few times, but you get use to it and it is no longer a problem then Easy placing the mobile in and to remove it, you have to use one hand to hold the dock down when removing the phone.
No scratches around the USB area, only on the edges of the inside.

Thanks for the reply
Trying to find a phone that is as convenient as my N1 when it comes to docking and cradles. It's just hard to beat phones with POGO pins. Wife and I have a bunch of docks; alarm clocks, work charging and music stations - never need to mess with a USB unless debugging.

pwkpete said:
Thanks for the reply
Trying to find a phone that is as convenient as my N1 when it comes to docking and cradles. It's just hard to beat phones with POGO pins. Wife and I have a bunch of docks; alarm clocks, work charging and music stations - never need to mess with a USB unless debugging.
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No problem
Maybe the one X or galaxy nexus would be better choices then?

what rubber case is that you're using? great review btw.

I posted the names of the two cases in the review....
Case Mate Tough and TPU gel case.
Although I recommend the TPU diztronic matte case over those two
Thanks

sorry for overlooking that detail. i'm digging the casemate tough with the textured grip and increased protection. i've used the diztronic case for last few months and while it's thin as well, it also lacks grip and i've been close to dropping my phone so many times.

No problem
Yeah, the diztronic matte case isn't great for grip at all really
I think the tough case is the best when it comes to protection as it looks good, feels great and whilst it might not be as good as the ballistic, otterbox etc. for pure protection, it should handle most drops perfectly well.
The rock quicksand case is very highly rated, suppose to have great grip, however, it doesn't protect the phone as well as the others and there is no protection for the top or bottom.

Has anyone tried this case with a HTC One S with the Seidio ACTIVE® with Metal Kickstand??
h t t p:// w w w .seidioonline.com/htc-one-s-active-with-metal-ks-case-black-p/csk3htnesk-bk.htm
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Just realized that looked like spam. I am in no way endorsing siedio. Just to be clear. I just wanna know before i get 2 of the cradles in this review.

hbforce
i Love it thanks for sharing ........

No problem

[Q] Car mount (specific needs)

I'm looking for a car dock for my Note 4.
Looking at all the existing threads (yes, there are several), the most recommended options seems to be
iOttie One Touch XL
iOttie One Touch 2
iBolt xProDock
But none of them seems to fit the bill for me. I've got a bumper case on my phone, and with the case it's about 3.35 inches wide. The Touch XL only supports phones up to 3.3 inches and the Touch 2 only goes to 3.2 inches. The xProDock seems to be able to handle the size of my phone, but it looks to be designed for holding the phone in landscape mode. I much prefer portrait mode for GPS navigation. I also want something that mounts to a RAM ball mount, which the xProDock does.
So, does anyone have any recommendations for a dock that attaches to a RAM ball, is made for portrait mode and can hold my 3.35 inches wide phone?

Spigen case + iOttie XL
I currently am using the Spigen case and the iOttie XL. According to Amazon, my case makes the phone 4". I'll go and try to measure how wide the mount actually gets later today, as that exta .15" may not matter in your case.
BTW, the suction mount from iOttie is a beast. I'm not sure how I'd get it off if I needed to. It's very stuck to my dash.
YMMV.

I have a Note 4 with Tech21 case. I use this in my car....
http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/vent-adhesive-combo-mount/
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Not sure what size your RAM ball is. I have a RAM mount setup for my xoom but I have never actually checked to see if it would fit but I think the RAM ball for the tablet mount is bigger.

The craigsdock will meet all your needs now and for future phones. Google it.

wingmanjd said:
I currently am using the Spigen case and the iOttie XL. According to Amazon, my case makes the phone 4". I'll go and try to measure how wide the mount actually gets later today, as that exta .15" may not matter in your case.
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Please do measure it Thanks
goinovr said:
I have a Note 4 with Tech21 case. I use this in my car....
http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/vent-adhesive-combo-mount/
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That looks good. How wide is your phone with the Tech21 case? Do you know anywhere else to buy that mount? Need to find someone who would ship it to Sweden...
goinovr said:
Not sure what size your RAM ball is. I have a RAM mount setup for my xoom but I have never actually checked to see if it would fit but I think the RAM ball for the tablet mount is bigger.
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I don't actually have a RAM mount yet, but I was thinking standard B-size. But that adhesive mount that comes with the dock you linked might be good enough
CZ Eddie said:
The craigsdock will meet all your needs now and for future phones. Google it.
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Wow! That thing is a tank! But $70 is outside of my budget

tlundberg said:
Wow! That thing is a tank! But $70 is outside of my budget
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Understandable. But you buy one dock and it lasts forever.
I bought mine back when I had my S3.
Then used that same dock with my S4, Note 3 and now my Note 4.
It's so adjustable that it even worked with the Note 3's MicroUSB port that is set off to the side rather than right in the middle.
And I'll be using it with any other 4" to 6" phone that happens to have a MicroUSB port on the bottom.
Money saved in the long run. :good:

i use an iblason armorbox which is slightly wider than your measurements and the itian wireless charger fits perfectly including charging with the samsung oem wireless back inside the armorbox case. try that.

tlundberg said:
I'm looking for a car dock for my Note 4.
Looking at all the existing threads (yes, there are several), the most recommended options seems to be
iOttie One Touch XL
iOttie One Touch 2
iBolt xProDock
But none of them seems to fit the bill for me. I've got a bumper case on my phone, and with the case it's about 3.35 inches wide. The Touch XL only supports phones up to 3.3 inches and the Touch 2 only goes to 3.2 inches. The xProDock seems to be able to handle the size of my phone, but it looks to be designed for holding the phone in landscape mode. I much prefer portrait mode for GPS navigation. I also want something that mounts to a RAM ball mount, which the xProDock does.
So, does anyone have any recommendations for a dock that attaches to a RAM ball, is made for portrait mode and can hold my 3.35 inches wide phone?
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00OH4QPFO
I got that and never looked back
I struggled with a clip in mount for ages until I stumbled upon the magnet one above, would never go back

tigsandmitch said:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00OH4QPFO
I got that and never looked back
I struggled with a clip in mount for ages until I stumbled upon the magnet one above, would never go back
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I'm not sure how well a magnetic mount would work since I don't have a flat back. (I'm using a bumper case)

zurkx said:
i use an iblason armorbox which is slightly wider than your measurements and the itian wireless charger fits perfectly including charging with the samsung oem wireless back inside the armorbox case. try that.
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Wireless charging would have been awesome if it worked for me... Unfortunately it doesn't My bumper case raises the back of the phone too far away from the charger. I've got a Samsung wireless charger on my desk, but it just doesn't work with the bumper on the phone.

so change your bumper case to an iblason armorbox.

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The xProDock seems to be able to handle the size of my phone, but it looks to be designed for holding the phone in landscape mode. I much prefer portrait mode for GPS navigation. I also want something that mounts to a RAM ball mount, which the xProDock does.
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I use the xProDock and it can be used in either landscape or portrait. It'll rotate 360 degrees. I also like that you can select which side of the dock you want the power cord to route.

nytmare1 said:
I use the xProDock and it can be used in either landscape or portrait. It'll rotate 360 degrees. I also like that you can select which side of the dock you want the power cord to route.
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How secure do you feel it is in portrait mode? I'm worried that the phone will eventually slide out since there's no support on the bottom in portrait mode. How natural does it feel to insert the phone in portrait mode? It just feels like it was mainly built for landscape use...

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How secure do you feel it is in portrait mode? I'm worried that the phone will eventually slide out since there's no support on the bottom in portrait mode. How natural does it feel to insert the phone in portrait mode? It just feels like it was mainly built for landscape use...
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I would agree that the xProDock lends itself to be used primarily in landscape mode and it's easier to mount your phone into the dock in that position. However, the double spring-loaded upper latch is VERY strong and holds my Note 4 quite securely. Ironically enough, if I had one critical thing to say about the dock, it's that the mount holds the phone in too tightly. Until you get the hang of it, it's kinda hard to get the phone into the mount to begin with. There's a certain technique to getting it in and out, but once you get use to it, it's not so bad. If you get this dock, I can't imagine you'd have any problems with the phone slipping out in portrait mode.
Just be aware that Samsung removed the analogue audio out through the microUSB connector (for the Galaxy S5 and the Note 4) so the aux-out cable is not compatible with this kit. iBOLT recommends the IBXC-33617 xProDock Connect Kit if you desire that feature. Don't quote me, but I don't think that's an issue if you source your audio through the earphone jack or Bluetooth.

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I'm not sure how well a magnetic mount would work since I don't have a flat back. (I'm using a bumper case)
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The bumper case might present a problem. I would highly recommend finding a magnetic mount that carries the note 4, and getting a case that has a back. That would seem to be your best option.

I sincerely apologize for the delay. My case on my phone is 3.3" (not the 4" I said earlier). The XL opens to 3.5". There's not a lot of extra leeway, but more than enough to snugly hold my phone and case.
Hope this helps.
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Anyone get a dock off ebay? those chinese knockoffs
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131295119396?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

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Anyone get a dock off ebay? those chinese knockoffs
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131295119396?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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As opposed to what? Why pay more when you can get an cheap one from china that works just as well.

Exelium UP magnetic qi dock?

Hey all,
I just stumbled across this dock, has anyone given it a try yet? Looks very promising, although I can't find a ton of info about it.
http://www.amazon.com/Exelium-UPM200-Magnetized-Wireless-Mount/dp/B00SY5FBOS
and here's the official site:
http://www.exelium.net/index.php?page=33&ia=1418046573
There's also a receiver card with built in magnets for the Note 4:
http://www.amazon.com/Exelium-UPMSN4-Magnetized-Wireless-Receiver/dp/B00SY5FB7U
If it works well then this looks like it could be the answer to a LOT of people's wireless charging prayers! Any experiences or info would be greatly appreciated!

Exelium up qi dock
Hi
I have seen your comment on this forum. I am working for Exelium and I can tell you more about this concept.
Exelium has developed a concept which allow to combine magnet fixing system and wireless charging system.
For Galaxy note 4 and S5 we have made some patch receiver(wireless and magnet) that you can put easily by opening the back of the mobile and plug it in 2 seconds.
Then you can plug and charge your Galaxy Note 4 on our different stations : Home (wall mount), car (windshield or dashboard mount), office (desk mount).
We can go on our website and watch our videos in our Youtube channel.
I hope that my explanations help you.
In US we are now in amazon, soon in best buy but also b&Hphotovideo
Best regards

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Hi
I have seen your comment on this forum. I am working for Exelium and I can tell you more about this concept.
Exelium has developed a concept which allow to combine magnet fixing system and wireless charging system.
For Galaxy note 4 and S5 we have made some patch receiver(wireless and magnet) that you can put easily by opening the back of the mobile and plug it in 2 seconds.
Then you can plug and charge your Galaxy Note 4 on our different stations : Home (wall mount), car (windshield or dashboard mount), office (desk mount).
We can go on our website and watch our videos in our Youtube channel.
I hope that my explanations help you.
In US we are now in amazon, soon in best buy but also b&Hphotovideo
Best regards
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Wow, speedy response from the manufacturer, nice! I'd love some more info on how strong the magnets are, I personally am very attached to my S-View cover and would be very interested to know whether the magnets in the Exelium Up will hold the Note 4 even with the S-View flap in the way. Have you done any testing to this effect, or can you comment on whether the Up will work with an S-View cover? I imagine that the same question would apply for anyone using a case as well.
Thanks for the attention!

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Wow, speedy response from the manufacturer, nice! I'd love some more info on how strong the magnets are, I personally am very attached to my S-View cover and would be very interested to know whether the magnets in the Exelium Up will hold the Note 4 even with the S-View flap in the way. Have you done any testing to this effect, or can you comment on whether the Up will work with an S-View cover? I imagine that the same question would apply for anyone using a case as well.
Thanks for the attention!
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I know that we have made some tests but I need to check with my designer to give you accurate comment. Of course our concept is working at best without big case or extra thickness. I think that charging is working well but case can reduce a bit the magnet process even if our magnet are good quality.

Good concept, Will it work with a case? How long does it charge a Note 4 (how many percent per hour)

Hello
The performance is about 80% compared to standard lightening cable but as the system is combined with magnet fixing system, you have to consider that you optimize each time the charging process because when you are in your car, you plug and it's charging and same at the office and home!
It works with case but bigger is the case less the performance will be .

Thanks again for all the information, it's nice to see a manufacturer paying attention to user forums like this. One more question, does the receiver patch interfere with NFC, or will NFC still function with it installed? If NFC does remain functional, is it because the patch has the antenna and connections for NFC built into it, or is it just positioned so that it doesn't cover the NFC antenna in the battery? Also I'd still love to hear your designer's opinion on compatibility with the S-View case. Thanks!

soul777toast said:
Thanks again for all the information, it's nice to see a manufacturer paying attention to user forums like this. One more question, does the receiver patch interfere with NFC, or will NFC still function with it installed? If NFC does remain functional, is it because the patch has the antenna and connections for NFC built into it, or is it just positioned so that it doesn't cover the NFC antenna in the battery? Also I'd still love to hear your designer's opinion on compatibility with the S-View case. Thanks!
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Hello
Sorry for late reply. The NFC can works but it's more complicated to make works it. We need to be closer!

Does the magnet qi receiver add any bulge to the back? I'm quite close to pulling the trigger on this, what's the warranty?

ChronoReverse said:
Does the magnet qi receiver add any bulge to the back? I'm quite close to pulling the trigger on this, what's the warranty?
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Hello
On the S5 and note 4 that we have you can not see the bulge to the back, of course if you put from tha back,your finger at the magnet locations you feel them a bit.
For the warranty, we have 2 years warranty

Irritating so far...
HFOURQUET said:
Hello
On the S5 and note 4 that we have you can not see the bulge to the back, of course if you put from tha back,your finger at the magnet locations you feel them a bit.
For the warranty, we have 2 years warranty
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Been interested in getting this for my Galaxy Note 4.
Actually purchased already through Amazon. The only problem is, the universal patch to attach to my phone is apparently backordered. The dock itself (of course) doesn't come with any other means to utilize it. I've tried other metal plates, but of course, the metal plates will block the Qi charging capability, so for the moment, I'm stuck with either being able to mount the phone and not charge it, or being able to charge it, but not mount it.
Just rather annoying so far. Going to try looking in Michael's or some other craft store to see if I can't find my own small metal discs and 3M adhesive to utilize this mount.

The mount should be bundled with the magnets for the back cover. Let us know how you get on.

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The mount should be bundled with the magnets for the back cover. Let us know how you get on.
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No, it's plainly stated before ordering and on the box that the magnet for your back cover isn't included.
My issue is wondering why I'd order both, but the mount is in stock, yet the magnets for the back of the phone aren't.
Like I said, for the time being, I'm trying to find small metal discs that might work over the magnet points to get it working.

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Since It's been over a week since my Exelium Qi dock has arrived and still no word on whether or not the universal patches for the back of my phone will even be in stock, I went ahead and got a bit creative.
Found 4 metal discs at a local Hobby Lobby in their jewelry section, some white vinyl cut to size and done. One thing of note, I originally attempted to use a metal plate like the ones found in the Scosche magic mount. While the plate works to attach the phone to the dock, it blocks wireless charging.
The dock so far seems to work quite well.
It does not, however, charge faster than (for example) continuously watching Netflix would drain your battery. At best, this would keep the battery from draining as fast, but from most Wireless dock reviews I've found, this seems to be relatively common. It will charge your phone up if you aren't using the phone too heavily. Running Netflix continuously for 2.5 hours, the battery drain was from 100% to approx 86%, so I'd say it's pretty decent.
For the moment, I'm using the 2.4Amp output charger coupled with a regular USB cable. I haven't tried using a fast charging capable USB cable yet however to see if it would charge any better/faster. In my home experiments with a fast charging cable+proper charger, it really won't change the charging output much if at all.
I like the dock design, and of all the available Qi mounts out there, I tend to prefer this idea/design the most. However, this is pretty much 1 of 2 out there that I know of that is a magnetic mount. (AirDock being the only other one out there I'm aware of). The current price on Amazon for this is pretty fair, especially compared to other docks and it's about half the price of the AirDock.
So far, the only real knock/annoyance is getting/finding a proper way to attach the phone to the dock.

I thought I might try AirDock's magnetic stickers to see if this might work in the meantime while waiting for Exelium's magnetic patch.
Sad to say, the AirDock's stickers are horribly inadequate to hold up the weight of a Note 4. I almost wonder if they'd be adequate for any phone as their stickers pretty much amount to what looks like a pre-cut sticker with 4 wafer thin discs of metal in the right places (and I mean, as thin as a sheet of aluminum foil, thin). They do line up perfectly with the Exelium's dock magnets however, so at least I now have a pre-cut template to make my own stickers in the future.

Anyone know what kind of magnets are in the mount?

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Anyone know what kind of magnets are in the mount?
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Not sure I follow? I'm guessing neodymium magnets of some sort. They have a better hold than the average refrigerator or craft magnets I've seen. Just not sure how it matters?

Well I was using the mountek magnetic ngroove snap as a dock with my galaxy s6 without a backplate and it actually held the phone up pretty well not great but good enough, but when I switched to the exelium dock as a mount it doesn't hold as well, and just keeps slipping off. I don't know if the magnets are different or what but the only thing I can think of is that the ngroove snap has a grippy rubber sticker over the magnets and the exelium is just a white plastic cover. I'll probably just end up removing the white plastic cover and replace it with something with more grip.

glyphx said:
Well I was using the mountek magnetic ngroove snap as a dock with my galaxy s6 without a backplate and it actually held the phone up pretty well not great but good enough, but when I switched to the exelium dock as a mount it doesn't hold as well, and just keeps slipping off. I don't know if the magnets are different or what but the only thing I can think of is that the ngroove snap has a grippy rubber sticker over the magnets and the exelium is just a white plastic cover. I'll probably just end up removing the white plastic cover and replace it with something with more grip.
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Ahh, I experimented with that, and this is the conclusion I came to;
The Mountek (I found a scosche version) magnet uses 4 little neodymium magnets together making a large surface area to create that pull.
Docks like the Exelium UP and (likely) the AirDock2 have to keep the 4 magnets around the edge/perimeter of the dock since the wireless charging coils are right in the center. A big plate like that from the Mountek works pretty nicely on the Exelium, but the problem I found was that the big plate also blocks the wireless charging coil from working.
It's why I took to finding 4 smaller discs to use on each of the 4 magnets around the edges to generate enough pull from the magnets to hold my Note 4 up to the docks.

I have one minor worry about using a magnet that strong: The S-Pen.
The wacom digitizer works by using a low level magnetic field. I put my Note 4 on a PMA wireless pad I have laying around, which actually worked with the wireless charging in the phone (this is sometimes the case, but not always, regarding cross-compatibility between the two standards). However, I made sure to test the S-Pen while it was on the pad, and lo and behold the pen barely recognized in the area near the PMA charging coil., and that was only if I applied SIGNIFICANT pressure.
The reason PMA pads caused this is that the coil also acted as a magnet strong enough to hold the phone in place. It's already known that magnetic cases cause damage to the Wacom digitizer after a few days of exposure, and those a comparatively weak magnets.
My worry is pretty much that if the magnets you're using are strong enough to dock, that they are also strong enough to permanently damage the Wacom digitizer, and make using the S-Pen impossible. Have these docks been extensively tested to make sure this is not the case?

Incipio Car Dock ball size?

A quick search did not reveal anything, I was wondering if anyone had tried the Incipio car dock with a more traditional ball mount. My car is huge and has an air conditioner for a cabin about 1/2 it's size, I REALLY do not want to block a vent...
I was thinking about using the arm from my Moto X's dock, but it would be good to know if the ball is close to the same size.

dieKatze88 said:
A quick search did not reveal anything, I was wondering if anyone had tried the Incipio car dock with a more traditional ball mount. My car is huge and has an air conditioner for a cabin about 1/2 it's size, I REALLY do not want to block a vent...
I was thinking about using the arm from my Moto X's dock, but it would be good to know if the ball is close to the same size.
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I'd love to know the answer to this also. I drive a Tundra, and live in Louisiana, so blocking that one vent does suck. I position it high, that does help, but if your solution works please post up. Thank you

johnjay06 said:
I'd love to know the answer to this also. I drive a Tundra, and live in Louisiana, so blocking that one vent does suck. I position it high, that does help, but if your solution works please post up. Thank you
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If you can take yours off the vent and measure the diameter of the mounting ball, I might have a six-dollar solution for everybody.

dieKatze88 said:
If you can take yours off the vent and measure the diameter of the mounting ball, I might have a six-dollar solution for everybody.
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I measure 0.614” or 15.6mm.
My solution was to design and print a new threaded mount then screw a RAM mount over it. It was a fairly expensive solution but it is clean and works with my current setup. I'll post pictures later.
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I haven't measured but that sounds close as hell to the Window/Dash mount for the Moto X 2013 dock.

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I haven't measured but that sounds close as hell to the Window/Dash mount for the Moto X 2013 dock.
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I've done most of that drive before, at least it's a nice drive.

I can tell you the ball is smaller than the Garmin ball/original Motorola ball. I am looking at options now. I had the same issue with the Droid MAXX dock, and found a solution for it. I live in Houston, and have not gone back since the hurricane hit. I'm heading back this weekend. Assuming my house is ok, I'll see if the solution I used for the Droid MAXX works for this as well.

RAM Mount solution?
Also researching this for the Moto Z2 Force.
I came across a reddit thread suggesting that the 0.56" RAM "A" ball mount can be made to work. RAM Part # RAM-A-238U ($10) and RAM Part # RAM-A-336U ($13) both have the "A" size ball mount.
NOTE: I'm unable to post external links (new user), but the thread is on the Moto Z subreddit and is titled "Attach your incipio Moto Z car dock to more than the air vents."

The RAM ball A is slightly too small. I used this same ball for the Droid MAXX car dock which is the same size as the Incipio dock. I had to fill in the gap to make it secure. I'd prefer not to do the same thing this time, but I might have to. I'm highly annoyed that they did not do any kind of research to see what ball size to use. If you go to gpscity.com you will find many mounting options. If you want a specific mount for your car, you can search "vehicle specific mount" with your car model. Look for something that has an AMPS plate, and then find a RAM A mount with an amps plate. The plates will mate together with screws. Because the AMPS plate is common, you can find options to mount to many things besides a car.
Remember, if you get the RAM A ball, it will be too small. You will have to fill in the gap with something to make it work. I used bits of a plastic bag, and also experimented with partially filling the mounting hole with epoxy. Both worked OK, but I cursed the people that made that mount, as I now curse the people that made this mount.
As I said above, I did this with the Griffin car dock for the Droid MAXX, which was the same size ball mount. I don't want to do the same with the Incipio dock, as I plan to keep it as long as they make phones that fit it. I am still looking for better solutions, and will revisit this thread if I find something that is a more professional solution.
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As reference, the 15.6mm ball we are cursed with is the same as the TomTom ball, and there are very few options available for it. The 17mm ball that is used by Garmin, and many others was also used by Motorola when they made their own car docks. I had my Droid X and Droid RAZR car docks mounted wherever I wanted them to be. Thanks for firing those guys Google. . .

I cannot confirm that this will work, but I found this today. www DOT bracketron DOT com/products/tomtom-amps-plate Sorry, I can't post links yet.
This claims to be a TomTom compatible ball mount, which would indicate that it will work for us. Again, you will need to find an AMPs plate mount that works for you. There are many many options out there.
I have ordered two of the above, and also two 16mm metal ball mounts from another site that might work as well. I noticed some refer to the TomTom 15.6mm ball as a 16mm ball, so I took a chance. I will post results when I have them.

So what was the result? Did they fit?

Ask Incipio?
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I did get my dock in today, and it fits perfectly on the Moto x 2013 stand. Firm fit too.

So whenever looking for alternatives a TomTom ball will do the trick . Thanks everyone for the research, now mine that travelled across the ocean can be put to use

I had my Incipio car dock break the other day - the part that holds the ball snapped off the mount and the bottom jaw of the vent clip broke. I was able to glue the ball holding part back on but the jaw would not set/fix.
I had an idea to convert to a windshield mount (like I had wanted in the first place anyway) and did the following
Took off the back piece that holds the ball so the only part was the car dock itself - file everything as flat as possible on the back.
I went to RAM mounts and purchased the following parts:
RAP-B-378U UNPD RAM FLEX ADHESIVE MNT SYST 1" BALL ($12.49)
RAP-B-104-224U-QU1 UNKP RAM SING SOCKET W/O 238 ($23.49)
The first part is an adhesive disk attachment for anything mostly flat that has a 1" ball mount. The second is a decently heavy duty suction cup mount with an articulating arm that looked to be long enough...they have enough choices at that point if you need longer I'd assume.
The round part that adheres is too large for the dock but with a little bit of trimming I was able to get it to fit nicely (trimmed at the bottom so it notched around the plugs and at the sides for the detach wings - did not have to touch the top)
I installed tonight and it's working great so far... I assume the adhesive is pretty heavy duty but I don't have a report on durability of that part yet - the suction cup seems like it will take the windshield with it if hit hard enough.....
Just one way to add a suction cup mount - unfortunately an extra $52 bucks shipped but worth it IMO...

Hi everyone! I thought I'd bring this topic back to life after a year and a half to share the solution I ended up with.
It's a knock-off Ram ball adapter sold under various brand names* and descriptions**. I have taken pictures of what one looks like on a green Ping-pong table, and how it can be attached to an Incipio car dock on one end and a Ram arm on the other, but I cannot post links***. The Incipio clamp can be tightened down on the flat part hard enough so that it doesn't move around too easily. The screw is inserted through the hole such that even if it does swivel, it doesn't come off. According to at least one review, the adapter is too flimsy to use on a motorcycle and the thin steel starts to vibrate, but in a car, it has been stable enough for me.
Ram makes a couple of products that are similar, but they look a little too thick to fit between Incipio's clamping jaws. I would be happy to be proven wrong on this, though.
I hope this helps someone! I'm certainly happy with the result, although it looks a bit more busy than I'd prefer. The upshot of having this longish contraption between the Ram arm and the Incipio car dock is that I was able to glue the Ram adhesive disk attachment referred to by acidlauncher to my car's steering column cover (so that when I adjust the wheel, my phone stays in the same position relative to it! I'm quite proud of that) and the whole thing is long enough to peek out from behind the wheel.
* brand names such as perfk, huiouer, fifimin, and small-chipinc
** descriptions such as "Stainless Steel 1 Inch Ball Arm Adapter for Motorcycle Rearview Mirror" and "360 Degree Ball Head Rotate Motorcycle Angled Base Z Type with 1 Inch Ball Head Adapter"
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*** but you can replace the " slash " part with an actual slash in photos.app.goo.gl slash inNNnV7qMDZP41fV9 -- and maybe add a reply with the resulting url if you can post such things, thanks!
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That would be https://photos.app.goo.gl/inNNnV7qMDZP41fV9, which looks amazing, but unfortunately looks like it requires the vent clip not to have already broken, and doesn't show what the RAM mount attaches to…
If you provide direct links to the parts, I could add them to this post.

Thanks for the feedback, and for sharing the link! I have updated the album with pictures of a car attached to the whole contraption. It's glued on with RAM Flex Adhesive Ball Base and it has worked out well thus far.
Yeah, it does rely on the vent clip, sad to hear yours is broken. How bad is it, perhaps you could still jerry-rig something together with the proper assortment of nuts, bolts and washers?

I ordered this, but it's not an exact fit: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0034IV2NO
Its 16mm TomTom ball is sufficiently larger than the Incipio's 15.6mm (?) ball that it would not go through the retaining ring without being forced, and getting that ring screwed straight into place was VERY difficult and time-consuming, due to the lack of clearance and tiny difference in diameter. For the ability to detach it and possibly move it to another car, I attached it to this: https://www.proclipusa.com/variation/100502-locking-move-clip-kit-for-non-tilt-swivel-holders