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[Q] T-Mobile Z3 or Unlocked Z3

T-Mobile Z3:
Cons:
One Color (blk)
Carrier Crapware
Potential bootloader locked (all the other Tmo Xperia were)
Pro:
32GB of storage
Unlocked Z3:
Cons:
16GB of Storage
Pro:
Colors!
Unlockable through Sony Dev
My current dilemma is trying to decide which version to go with. Sony international devices have more support and in general get updates before carrier versions. The only reason the Tmobile version is an option is the 32GB of storage. I play a lot of games and right now I have to juggle with adb backup as quite a few are above 1GB ( Baldur's Gate is 3GB+ by its lonesome). That said, I could titanium backup a game to the sdcard on the go, but that would be a potential PITA.
Anyone make a similar decision with the Z1s and have regretted it or vice versa?

I'm definitely getting the unlocked version. I'll just buy a high quality 64/128 GB micro sd card.

jonshipman said:
T-Mobile Z3:
Cons:
One Color (blk)
Carrier Crapware
Potential bootloader locked (all the other Tmo Xperia were)
Pro:
32GB of storage
Unlocked Z3:
Cons:
16GB of Storage
Pro:
Colors!
Unlockable through Sony Dev
My current dilemma is trying to decide which version to go with. Sony international devices have more support and in general get updates before carrier versions. The only reason the Tmobile version is an option is the 32GB of storage. I play a lot of games and right now I have to juggle with adb backup as quite a few are above 1GB ( Baldur's Gate is 3GB+ by its lonesome). That said, I could titanium backup a game to the sdcard on the go, but that would be a potential PITA.
Anyone make a similar decision with the Z1s and have regretted it or vice versa?
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Are you sure that T Mobile will only have black? The Z came in black, white, and purple...

Yes, T-Mobile Z3 is only in the black , you can go and check the Z3 white paper and it's only in black and 32 Gb
There is a different also about it and that is this version of phone support band 12 and that is the new frequency that T-Mobile bought from Verizon ( 750mhz ), I'm sure about the coverage of it, but that would be a big deal cause T-Mobile is really advertise on that specific band for end of this year to increase the LTE ...
So if anybody else has any information regard of this let us know.

The "bloatware" on the T-Mobile version should not be considered an issue. The 32GB of internal storage makes up for that, and T-Mobile "bloatware" is more function than anything else.
If you want WiFi calling, the best LTE performance, 32GB internal storage, etc on T-Mobile, buy the T-Mobile version (D6616).
The only con in my eyes to buying the T-Mobile version is lack of color options. Oh well, I'll get over it and be happy with the black.

Damn. I was looking forward to a green one.

I think the biggest con on the Tmo version is the carrier update cycle. Typically you're months behind on Android updates compared to OEMs.
Locked bootloaders are another big negative as it's useful for development.

That's any carrier, now the bootloader is what I'm waiting to hear about.

Ulockable bootloader = no buy. At least for me.

International vs. T-Mobile: FREQUENCY BANDS
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/77773
This is important: aside from whether boot loader will be locked or not, or whether getting 16 or 32 GB internal storage is a big or not, WHAT ABOUT THE FREQUENCY BANDS?
I assume that most people looking to get the T-Mobile model D6616 have T-Mobile as their carrier, and would prefer to have the proper frequency bands supported for LTE.
Can anybody elucidate what the implications are for a T-Mobile user getting: 1) the international unlocked version, or 2) the T-Mobile version?

bbot3k said:
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/77773
This is important: aside from whether boot loader will be locked or not, or whether getting 16 or 32 GB internal storage is a big or not, WHAT ABOUT THE FREQUENCY BANDS?
I assume that most people looking to get the T-Mobile model D6616 have T-Mobile as their carrier, and would prefer to have the proper frequency bands supported for LTE.
Can anybody elucidate what the implications are for a T-Mobile user getting: 1) the international unlocked version, or 2) the T-Mobile version?
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This is what I wanna know, I really want the green color, and my thought is that I'll get the international because I don't mind the lack of 32gb. The international has every frequency the US one does except band 12 and my current GS4 doesn't have that anyway. I don't feel like I'd miss it. I'm not sure what it does anyway or if it would even affect me in MN/WI.
I would like to keep Wi-Fi calling though, and I'm assuming it would be possible to install the T-Mobile ROM on the international model. Is this right?

brokenchains said:
This is what I wanna know, I really want the green color, and my thought is that I'll get the international because I don't mind the lack of 32gb. The international has every frequency the US one does except band 12 and my current GS4 doesn't have that anyway. I don't feel like I'd miss it. I'm not sure what it does anyway or if it would even affect me in MN/WI.
I would like to keep Wi-Fi calling though, and I'm assuming it would be possible to install the T-Mobile ROM on the international model. Is this right?
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Hmm, I would think that installing T-Mobile ROM ought to be possible. Whenever I flashed ROMs on Nexus 4 or HD2, there was always a way to restore factory ROM settings.

International version is the wise choice
Sent from my Xperia Z2

bbot3k said:
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/77773
This is important: aside from whether boot loader will be locked or not, or whether getting 16 or 32 GB internal storage is a big or not, WHAT ABOUT THE FREQUENCY BANDS?
I assume that most people looking to get the T-Mobile model D6616 have T-Mobile as their carrier, and would prefer to have the proper frequency bands supported for LTE.
Can anybody elucidate what the implications are for a T-Mobile user getting: 1) the international unlocked version, or 2) the T-Mobile version?
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I assume the international version will be the D6643, has all the LTE of D6616 and then some. The other two might be Pacific/Japanese versions.

bbot3k said:
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/77773
This is important: aside from whether boot loader will be locked or not, or whether getting 16 or 32 GB internal storage is a big or not, WHAT ABOUT THE FREQUENCY BANDS?
I assume that most people looking to get the T-Mobile model D6616 have T-Mobile as their carrier, and would prefer to have the proper frequency bands supported for LTE.
Can anybody elucidate what the implications are for a T-Mobile user getting: 1) the international unlocked version, or 2) the T-Mobile version?
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You will not have the future Band 12 but all other Bands are there
You will also not be able to take advantage of WiFi calling, VoLTE (I think)

jonshipman said:
I assume the international version will be the D6643, has all the LTE of D6616 and then some. The other two might be Pacific/Japanese versions.
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D6603 is the International version of the phone.

se1000 said:
Ulockable bootloader = no buy. At least for me.
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Funny, but I see it the other way around.
Locked bootloader = no buy. At least for me.

iconoclastnet said:
Funny, but I see it the other way around.
Locked bootloader = no buy. At least for me.
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DOH!!! That's what I meant!

Wait...
So you guys are saying that there is not a "Sony" version for the US for the Z3 as it is for the Z2? I mean, you can buy the Z2 on Sony web or retailers, and it is pretty much the international version but works great in the US... So, are you saying that only a T-Mobile (and yes maybe Verizon, Sprint, etc, etc) will be available in the US and not just the "Sony" version?

wolf0491 said:
maybe wait because...
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/09/25/sony-planning-us-xperia-z3-event-for-9-october/
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Yes , I posted that in here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2886115
iphone 6 camera vs Z2
We will have to wait...and see !!!

Only 2GB of RAM

Pretty much all the specs that i read up til the phone being released where saying that there were two versions 16/32GB with 2/3GB of RAM. and i noticed my 32GB Flex 2 only has 2GB of RAM. but is the 2GB DDR4 upgrade better compared to 3GB or DDR3?
thanks guys

This is something I'm really confused about. I was going to buy the g flex 2 sim free here in the uk, but can only find the 16gb with 2gb of RAM. Is the 3gb version available in UK/Europe? Also, does anyone know if the European 32gb version work in the UK on 4G?
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Anyone seen 3GB RAM?
I'm looking for 3GB RAM version too but... Korea Version Hong Kong Version US Version 32GB ones only have 2GB RAM... UK Version of 32GB is yet to be released. Im guessing it will be released with the red colour LG G Flex 2 in the UK in April. Fingers crossed.
Anyone seen 3GB RAM LG G Flex 2 yet?

Not sure if this is one
http://senseshop.biz/product/lg-g-flex-2-32gb-with-3gb-ram

taewoong96 said:
I'm looking for 3GB RAM version too but... Korea Version Hong Kong Version US Version 32GB ones only have 2GB RAM... UK Version of 32GB is yet to be released. Im guessing it will be released with the red colour LG G Flex 2 in the UK in April. Fingers crossed.
Anyone seen 3GB RAM LG G Flex 2 yet?
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from what i was told by LG's BS customer service department that all of the G Flex 2's are only 2gb of DDR4 RAM.. but what i dont know is 2gb DDR4 better and faster than 3gb of DDR3
and what else confused me was that all during the CES show and everything else i read, said that it would have 3gb of RAM. so this has me confused and now im not sure if i will even keep the phone.

So... 32GB 3RAM LG G Flex 2 does exist! But not in...
US
UK
Korea
Hong Kong
But in Philippinse...?!
What kind of logic is this?!?!?!?!
I mean they did this with LG G3. They launched 3GB RAM G3 in Korea only and mobile geek did a test between the 2GB RAM and 3GB RAM. It showed that there was a bit of difference between the two in various benchmark tests... I really want LG G Flex 2 RED 3GB RAM!!! Why is it so hard to buy one?!?!?!?

taewoong96 said:
So... 32GB 3RAM LG G Flex 2 does exist! But not in...
US
UK
Korea
Hong Kong
But in Philippinse...?!
What kind of logic is this?!?!?!?!
I mean they did this with LG G3. They launched 3GB RAM G3 in Korea only and mobile geek did a test between the 2GB RAM and 3GB RAM. It showed that there was a bit of difference between the two in various benchmark tests... I really want LG G Flex 2 RED 3GB RAM!!! Why is it so hard to buy one?!?!?!?
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my LG G3 had 3GB of RAM, but I have contacted LG several times and I keep getting different answers and its really starting to piss me off. I just dont understand that at the CES show they told all the reporters and everyone who was doing a show and tell on the phone, they all said there would be the 2gb and 3gb versions. So who the hell knows whats going on....

This happens with samsung as well. Korea is their test bed for devices and they tend to get slightly higher specs than the rest of us in the uk and us.
Could be down to the advanced lte modems they have in the korean model that they need the extra 1gb but to be honest ive not noticed any lag or ram issues on my uk model with 2gb ram.

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jongilluley said:
This happens with samsung as well. Korea is their test bed for devices and they tend to get slightly higher specs than the rest of us in the uk and us.
Could be down to the advanced lte modems they have in the korean model that they need the extra 1gb but to be honest ive not noticed any lag or ram issues on my uk model with 2gb ram.
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Yeah thats true for Samsung... but this time LG is saying
16GB will have 2GB RAM
32GB will have 3GB RAM
But the Korean model... or US or Hong Kong 32GB versions doesnt have 3GB RAM
2GB RAM might not be a problem for now but a year later when Android OS 6.0 is out 2GB RAM wont be enough just like how 1GB RAM have difficulties running 5.0 perfectly with lots of apps.
I just dont understand why LG would lower the RAM for its "first SD10 Flagship phone" compared to its competitors like HTC M9 or Samsung Galaxy S6 or Nexus 6 or Huwawei or Meizu! EVEN OPO has 3GB RAM. At least give us a choice for 3GB RAN u know?

I just spoke to someone at vodafone UK and they don't even have the 32GB Model :crying: :crying: :crying:

Neurom707 said:
I just spoke to someone at vodafone UK and they don't even have the 32GB Model :crying: :crying: :crying:
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Or red colour. Apparently it will be coming in April. Lets see if it will be 3GB RAM.

taewoong96 said:
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Yeah thats true for Samsung... but this time LG is saying
16GB will have 2GB RAM
32GB will have 3GB RAM
But the Korean model... or US or Hong Kong 32GB versions doesnt have 3GB RAM
2GB RAM might not be a problem for now but a year later when Android OS 6.0 is out 2GB RAM wont be enough just like how 1GB RAM have difficulties running 5.0 perfectly with lots of apps.
I just dont understand why LG would lower the RAM for its "first SD10 Flagship phone" compared to its competitors like HTC M9 or Samsung Galaxy S6 or Nexus 6 or Huwawei or Meizu! EVEN OPO has 3GB RAM. At least give us a choice for 3GB RAN u know?
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what i havent figured out yet is, the Flex 2 is running on the new DDR4 RAM as to where everyone else is still running on DDR3. but what i dont know is, 2gb of DDR4 better than 3 gb of DDR3? this maybe why they did lower it, i dont know if the DDR4 chipset is larger in size or not, but could be that they couldnt fit 3gb of DDR4 in the phone

harvickgm said:
what i havent figured out yet is, the Flex 2 is running on the new DDR4 RAM as to where everyone else is still running on DDR3. but what i dont know is, 2gb of DDR4 better than 3 gb of DDR3? this maybe why they did lower it, i dont know if the DDR4 chipset is larger in size or not, but could be that they couldnt fit 3gb of DDR4 in the phone
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Who is everyone else? HTC M9 and Samsung Galaxy S6 have DDR4 3GB RAM. ASUS Zenfone2 even have DDR4 4GB RAM. True Nexus 6 has DDR3 3GB RAM but that was released last year. So I don't think there is point in comparison between DDR3 3GB RAM vs DDR4 2GB RAM. But I can tell you that DDR3 vs DDR4, DDRV4 is FASTER to process information through but ovusly 3GB RAM vs 2GB RAM, 3GB RAM can TEMPORARY store MORE stuff.
ITS THE AGE OF DDR4 NOW. SPARTA http://cdn4.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

taewoong96 said:
Who is everyone else? HTC M9 and Samsung Galaxy S6 have DDR4 3GB RAM. ASUS Zenfone2 even have DDR4 4GB RAM. True Nexus 6 has DDR3 3GB RAM but that was released last year. So I don't think there is point in comparison between DDR3 3GB RAM vs DDR4 2GB RAM. But I can tell you that DDR3 vs DDR4, DDRV4 is FASTER to process information through but ovusly 3GB RAM vs 2GB RAM, 3GB RAM can TEMPORARY store MORE stuff.
ITS THE AGE OF DDR4 NOW. SPARTA http://cdn4.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
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ok, my bad.. i thought the M9 was still running DDR3.. well then that is bull**** then... well i think i may be taking my back and looking else where this time.. I am alittle disappointed in this phone.. and I doubt there will be any updates anytime soon

EMEA version H955 16GB = 2GB
HK version H959 32GB = 2GB
US Sprint version LS996 32GB = 2GB
Korean version Fsomething 32GB = 2GB
Well... EMEA version H955 32GB (Red) hasnt been released yet.
Rumor to be coming in April and it seems like it may have 3GB RAM!
Fingers crossed!

Sprint LG G Flex 2 Comes with 2GB RAM (its 32GB model)
i just received my US Sprint LG G Flex 2 LS996 , its 32GB internal memory. but its comes with 2GB RAM.

3GB RAM LG G Flex 2 was released recently only of US AT&T verison! Guess no luck for Europe and Asia...

Up until that last post, I was sitting here like ".... I have 3GB, whats wrong with y'all?".
But I guess AT&T (H950) decided they wouldn't be getting it unless it had 3GB.

im looking also for the 3gb ram variant. the ones that are available here in the philippines comes only with 2gb ram.

taewoong96 said:
3GB RAM LG G Flex 2 was released recently only of US AT&T verison! Guess no luck for Europe and Asia...
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I think you are right about being only version that has 3GB RAM is the AT&T (H950) version. I could not find any others that has 3GB RAM.

Reliable retailer for 6x 64gb models

Hi all,
Anyone know of a reliable retailer that ship to Europe that sells a grey model with black front and 64gb storage?
If I have 64gb internal storage I would be able to use dual sim rather than filling the second slot with sdcard. But this model is unavailable in Europe as far as I can tell.
Thank you for your help!

The second slot is only 2G

AS per my knowledge, that model will be available only in China. It wont be released anywhere.

siggey said:
The second slot is only 2G
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I am OK with that - second sim is for receiving calls or SMS on my roaming sim.
vsriram92 said:
AS per my knowledge, that model will be available only in China. It wont be released anywhere.
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That would be a pity. Wonder if it would work outside China, or if its even possible to get from there.
I read somewhere that the 4gb model may be released internationally in March which might include the 64gb storage version.
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drakenabarion said:
That would be a pity. Wonder if it would work outside China, or if its even possible to get from there.
I read somewhere that the 4gb model may be released internationally in March which might include the 64gb storage version.
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I don't think 64gb variant will be released. However if the bands in your country matches with the supported band by that variant, you can buy it.
Also remember that the devs for this variant will be available only in Chinese forums.

Get a freight forwarder adderss?

Thanks all for your replies!
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vsriram92 said:
AS per my knowledge, that model will be available only in China. It wont be released anywhere.
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Yeah, the 64GB variant of the Honor 8 was never released in the west either.

Possible to get Global version for use on US Carriers?

hi i'm still running an M8 but the U11 looks like finally the phone that will trigger me to upgrade. I'm confused about how the US versions will be getting 4GB RAM 64GB storage, while the international versions will get 6GB RAM 128GB storage.
Anyone know if it's possible to get the international version to work on US Carrier? I'm on AT&T.
Thanks
excited to see how the edge sensitivity stuff works out

grafik2 said:
hi i'm still running an M8 but the U11 looks like finally the phone that will trigger me to upgrade. I'm confused about how the US versions will be getting 4GB RAM 64GB storage, while the international versions will get 6GB RAM 128GB storage.
Anyone know if it's possible to get the international version to work on US Carrier? I'm on AT&T.
Thanks
excited to see how the edge sensitivity stuff works out
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Wrong information mate. All countries will get the same 4GB RAM/64GB internal configuration. Only difference are Taiwan and China were HTC will ship an 6GB RAM/128GB internal version as well. If your not running dual SIM the 64GB variant would suffice I think. But if you really want the larger storage you'd have to import it. Don't know if all US bands are present on this asian versions and if it'll run on AT&T though.
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Gotcha. Well thanks for the info. I won't need dual SIM and use an SD card so I was really just interested in getting 25% more RAM if it wasn't hard to get an international version.

grafik2 said:
Gotcha. Well thanks for the info. I won't need dual SIM and use an SD card so I was really just interested in getting 25% more RAM if it wasn't hard to get an international version.
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Not necessary to have those extra juice. Didn't make a lot in terms of performance on such a phone. Especially as long as it is driven by such an SoC and very well done software optimization.
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should be fine with sd835 and 4 gb

Watch out for the dual sim variants. They don't have all the US bands.

I was kinda bummed about this too, but at least we have an SD card slot and HTC doesn't bloat the hell out of their phones with crap like "Touchwiz" so I think it wouldn't make much difference.

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Wrong information mate. All countries will get the same 4GB RAM/64GB internal configuration. Only difference are Taiwan and China were HTC will ship an 6GB RAM/128GB internal version as well. If your not running dual SIM the 64GB variant would suffice I think. But if you really want the larger storage you'd have to import it. Don't know if all US bands are present on this asian versions and if it'll run on AT&T though.
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Wait, but there's five MIDs, two of which are dual-SIM. So how can "all countries be getting the same 4/64 config"?

Kisakuku said:
Wait, but there's five MIDs, two of which are dual-SIM. So how can "all countries be getting the same 4/64 config"?
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Yeah I know bit MID isn't directly tied to storage options. And as far as I know EMEA and US and others are getting 4GB/64GB, while Aisa is the only region getting 6GB/128GB.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Yeah I know bit MID isn't directly tied to storage options. And as far as I know EMEA and US and others are getting 4GB/64GB, while Aisa is the only region getting 6GB/128GB.
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Right, I just wanted to make sure that by "the same 4/64 config" you didn't mean all 4/64 devices have the same MID )
Also, @hamdir reported ME is getting 6/128.

fr0st420 said:
Watch out for the dual sim variants. They don't have all the US bands.
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Can you please elaborate, or tell me where I can find out more on this? I need a dual sim device and I'm AT&T. Thanks!

XATAGuy said:
Can you please elaborate, or tell me where I can find out more on this? I need a dual sim device and I'm AT&T. Thanks!
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You'd have to import one from China / Taiwan / Europe / Middle East or buy a gray market device on Ebay, etc.

Question Does anyone know where to purchase Moto G100 with 12gb ram?

Hey Guys,
Have not been able to locate the 12gb ram version of the motorola G100. Anyone have a clue where to get one?
All I keep seeing is the 8gb version.
Thanks

It isn't have 12gb version,only 6+128，8+128 and 8+256 .

死求了鸭 said:
It isn't have 12gb version,only 6+128，8+128 and 8+256 .
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There is a 12gb version, released in other regions

死求了鸭 said:
It isn't have 12gb version,only 6+128，8+128 and 8+256 .
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For sure it has the 12Gb version. But not for Edge S, only for Moto G100.
- Edge S: 6/128 - 8/128 - 8/256
- G100: 8/128 - 12/256
morphius88 said:
Hey Guys,
Have not been able to locate the 12gb ram version of the motorola G100. Anyone have a clue where to get one?
All I keep seeing is the 8gb version.
Thanks
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Here in Brazil Motorola brings only the 12/256 version, we don't have the 8Gb version here. But, price here is a problem, cause Moto G100 here costs aroun 500~550 USD.
I bought my Edge S from AliExpres for 300 USD (8/128).

@danilocps87 Yea I think the 12gb is for Brazil only. I dont know why they do that.
So hard to find a decent phone that has 12gb ram, SD card and headphone jack that doesnt cost a kidney (Sony Xperia 1 III)