[Q] T-Mobile Z3 or Unlocked Z3 - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

T-Mobile Z3:
Cons:
One Color (blk)
Carrier Crapware
Potential bootloader locked (all the other Tmo Xperia were)
Pro:
32GB of storage
Unlocked Z3:
Cons:
16GB of Storage
Pro:
Colors!
Unlockable through Sony Dev
My current dilemma is trying to decide which version to go with. Sony international devices have more support and in general get updates before carrier versions. The only reason the Tmobile version is an option is the 32GB of storage. I play a lot of games and right now I have to juggle with adb backup as quite a few are above 1GB ( Baldur's Gate is 3GB+ by its lonesome). That said, I could titanium backup a game to the sdcard on the go, but that would be a potential PITA.
Anyone make a similar decision with the Z1s and have regretted it or vice versa?

I'm definitely getting the unlocked version. I'll just buy a high quality 64/128 GB micro sd card.

jonshipman said:
T-Mobile Z3:
Cons:
One Color (blk)
Carrier Crapware
Potential bootloader locked (all the other Tmo Xperia were)
Pro:
32GB of storage
Unlocked Z3:
Cons:
16GB of Storage
Pro:
Colors!
Unlockable through Sony Dev
My current dilemma is trying to decide which version to go with. Sony international devices have more support and in general get updates before carrier versions. The only reason the Tmobile version is an option is the 32GB of storage. I play a lot of games and right now I have to juggle with adb backup as quite a few are above 1GB ( Baldur's Gate is 3GB+ by its lonesome). That said, I could titanium backup a game to the sdcard on the go, but that would be a potential PITA.
Anyone make a similar decision with the Z1s and have regretted it or vice versa?
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Are you sure that T Mobile will only have black? The Z came in black, white, and purple...

Yes, T-Mobile Z3 is only in the black , you can go and check the Z3 white paper and it's only in black and 32 Gb
There is a different also about it and that is this version of phone support band 12 and that is the new frequency that T-Mobile bought from Verizon ( 750mhz ), I'm sure about the coverage of it, but that would be a big deal cause T-Mobile is really advertise on that specific band for end of this year to increase the LTE ...
So if anybody else has any information regard of this let us know.

The "bloatware" on the T-Mobile version should not be considered an issue. The 32GB of internal storage makes up for that, and T-Mobile "bloatware" is more function than anything else.
If you want WiFi calling, the best LTE performance, 32GB internal storage, etc on T-Mobile, buy the T-Mobile version (D6616).
The only con in my eyes to buying the T-Mobile version is lack of color options. Oh well, I'll get over it and be happy with the black.

Damn. I was looking forward to a green one.

I think the biggest con on the Tmo version is the carrier update cycle. Typically you're months behind on Android updates compared to OEMs.
Locked bootloaders are another big negative as it's useful for development.

That's any carrier, now the bootloader is what I'm waiting to hear about.

Ulockable bootloader = no buy. At least for me.

International vs. T-Mobile: FREQUENCY BANDS
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/77773
This is important: aside from whether boot loader will be locked or not, or whether getting 16 or 32 GB internal storage is a big or not, WHAT ABOUT THE FREQUENCY BANDS?
I assume that most people looking to get the T-Mobile model D6616 have T-Mobile as their carrier, and would prefer to have the proper frequency bands supported for LTE.
Can anybody elucidate what the implications are for a T-Mobile user getting: 1) the international unlocked version, or 2) the T-Mobile version?

bbot3k said:
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/77773
This is important: aside from whether boot loader will be locked or not, or whether getting 16 or 32 GB internal storage is a big or not, WHAT ABOUT THE FREQUENCY BANDS?
I assume that most people looking to get the T-Mobile model D6616 have T-Mobile as their carrier, and would prefer to have the proper frequency bands supported for LTE.
Can anybody elucidate what the implications are for a T-Mobile user getting: 1) the international unlocked version, or 2) the T-Mobile version?
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This is what I wanna know, I really want the green color, and my thought is that I'll get the international because I don't mind the lack of 32gb. The international has every frequency the US one does except band 12 and my current GS4 doesn't have that anyway. I don't feel like I'd miss it. I'm not sure what it does anyway or if it would even affect me in MN/WI.
I would like to keep Wi-Fi calling though, and I'm assuming it would be possible to install the T-Mobile ROM on the international model. Is this right?

brokenchains said:
This is what I wanna know, I really want the green color, and my thought is that I'll get the international because I don't mind the lack of 32gb. The international has every frequency the US one does except band 12 and my current GS4 doesn't have that anyway. I don't feel like I'd miss it. I'm not sure what it does anyway or if it would even affect me in MN/WI.
I would like to keep Wi-Fi calling though, and I'm assuming it would be possible to install the T-Mobile ROM on the international model. Is this right?
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Hmm, I would think that installing T-Mobile ROM ought to be possible. Whenever I flashed ROMs on Nexus 4 or HD2, there was always a way to restore factory ROM settings.

International version is the wise choice
Sent from my Xperia Z2

bbot3k said:
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/77773
This is important: aside from whether boot loader will be locked or not, or whether getting 16 or 32 GB internal storage is a big or not, WHAT ABOUT THE FREQUENCY BANDS?
I assume that most people looking to get the T-Mobile model D6616 have T-Mobile as their carrier, and would prefer to have the proper frequency bands supported for LTE.
Can anybody elucidate what the implications are for a T-Mobile user getting: 1) the international unlocked version, or 2) the T-Mobile version?
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I assume the international version will be the D6643, has all the LTE of D6616 and then some. The other two might be Pacific/Japanese versions.

bbot3k said:
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/77773
This is important: aside from whether boot loader will be locked or not, or whether getting 16 or 32 GB internal storage is a big or not, WHAT ABOUT THE FREQUENCY BANDS?
I assume that most people looking to get the T-Mobile model D6616 have T-Mobile as their carrier, and would prefer to have the proper frequency bands supported for LTE.
Can anybody elucidate what the implications are for a T-Mobile user getting: 1) the international unlocked version, or 2) the T-Mobile version?
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You will not have the future Band 12 but all other Bands are there
You will also not be able to take advantage of WiFi calling, VoLTE (I think)

jonshipman said:
I assume the international version will be the D6643, has all the LTE of D6616 and then some. The other two might be Pacific/Japanese versions.
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D6603 is the International version of the phone.

se1000 said:
Ulockable bootloader = no buy. At least for me.
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Funny, but I see it the other way around.
Locked bootloader = no buy. At least for me.

iconoclastnet said:
Funny, but I see it the other way around.
Locked bootloader = no buy. At least for me.
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DOH!!! That's what I meant!

Wait...
So you guys are saying that there is not a "Sony" version for the US for the Z3 as it is for the Z2? I mean, you can buy the Z2 on Sony web or retailers, and it is pretty much the international version but works great in the US... So, are you saying that only a T-Mobile (and yes maybe Verizon, Sprint, etc, etc) will be available in the US and not just the "Sony" version?

wolf0491 said:
maybe wait because...
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/09/25/sony-planning-us-xperia-z3-event-for-9-october/
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Yes , I posted that in here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2886115
iphone 6 camera vs Z2
We will have to wait...and see !!!

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Moto G vs Moto G LTE

I'm deciding to buy the moto g
in canada, i'm on wind, so i have to get the aws version, and here's where it gets interesting
because i have to get the aws version, i have to buy it the moto g 16gb at 230$ or the moto g lte 8gb at 225 (plus 15$ unlock code probably)
wind doesn't have lte, so it doesnt really matter in that regards other than future proofing
sd card is nice, i have an 8gb from my phone that i'll pull in it, but 16 is enough too probably
other than that, rooting would be good, but that would be voiding the warranty because u need to unlock the bootloader, so i'm not so sure what i want to do in that regards
the android os support is already good by motorola, so i dont really see the end for custom roms, but i do use apps that requires root (greenify and adblock and xposed framework from the top of my head)
not so sure about the 4g/lte version about that, seems like u cant root it yet (?) and there's no xda for the newer version
any opinions are welcomed
anonxlg said:
I'm deciding to buy the moto g
in canada, i'm on wind, so i have to get the aws version, and here's where it gets interesting
because i have to get the aws version, i have to buy it the moto g 16gb at 230$ or the moto g lte 8gb at 225 (plus 15$ unlock code probably)
wind doesn't have lte, so it doesnt really matter in that regards other than future proofing
sd card is nice, i have an 8gb from my phone that i'll pull in it, but 16 is enough too probably
other than that, rooting would be good, but that would be voiding the warranty because u need to unlock the bootloader, so i'm not so sure what i want to do in that regards
the android os support is already good by motorola, so i dont really see the end for custom roms, but i do use apps that requires root (greenify and adblock and xposed framework from the top of my head)
not so sure about the 4g/lte version about that, seems like u cant root it yet (?) and there's no xda for the newer version
any opinions are welcomed
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well, if you don't use 4g you should buy the original moto g, the reason i would pick the 3g moto g if motorola will stop the support you can always go for CM (official) or other custom ROMs, for the 4G version development is pretty much 0. So long term, the original moto g would be my choice, but that is just my opinion.
BTW, if you play many games and need a sd card you should go for the Moto G 4G, i am a casual player and i don't feel the need for extra storage, but again, that is just me . Nevertheless no matter what you choose it will be a minor differences.
i dont install junk on my phone, so that's not really a problem
is there any reason the lte version isnt getting any development (yet?)?
anonxlg said:
is there any reason the lte version isnt getting any development (yet?)?
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So far as I gather, it's because the LTE version has only just been released.
I personally went for the LTE version primarily because of the MicroSD card; it ultimately seems like you're paying about the same price for a phone with slightly more advanced capabilities.
anonxlg said:
i dont install junk on my phone, so that's not really a problem
is there any reason the lte version isnt getting any development (yet?)?
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As Moto G came 6 months before the LTE version, the big brother took all the attention of the developers. It's still too early to call that the LTE version won't get any development, just might take a bit longer. I remember it took about 2 months for the original moto g to get any custom rom...
However, you may consider the fact that by coming 6 months later, the LTE version is supposed to get original update for 6 months longer ! :fingers-crossed: (assuming the 18 months life period for a device )
For the Moto G LTE, I don't see why you should have any trouble rooting it or needing to buy unlock code if you purchase an unlocked version, which is sim unlocked and will allow you to unlock the bootloader from Motorola website, no doubt there will be a custom recovery available for it so you can flash SuperSU then, no need for custom roms.
If the only reason you want the 4G LTE version is storage i suggest you look at these two links, so you don't end up with a 8gb phone and unable to use storage.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783238 https://forums.motorola.com/posts/7e59cc7baf
Some sd cards do not work on the device atm motorola is looking into it howerver no idea if it will get fixed the cards in question are generally class 10 and UHS however it includes some others aswell.
I have the original moto g xt1032 with the 16gb storage. firstly, 4G doesn't really matter because do you really need 4g just to look something up ? or just to check the weather 3G is fine. (where I'm living I only have 2G and I still live with it). secondly, I love having the otg support because u can plug in any flash drive and away you go and you can plug in USB into computer without putting it into an adapter like the sdcard. I'm not a heavy user I have used up 5 GB of my storage with games and still works perfectly that's my personal taste. but everyone has different choices and tastes
just a bit of clarification, for some reason, in canada, it seems like motorola has some sort of agreement with rogers/fido and the 4g version is ONLY available at rogers/fido, so i have to buy a (sim) unlock to use it with my carrier, wind
I'd say to go for the LTE variant given the price difference.
If you travel abroad the LTE version has pentaband HSPA which could come in handy, whereas the XT1032 won't work on HSPA outside of North America.
Plus if you switch back to the big three at some point (certainly not because they're giving you a cheaper deal...) you get to use that LTE you'll be paying through the nose for.
As far as custom ROMs go, I've got TWRP building and booting on my XT1045, although I still need to work on the fstab for it to work to my liking. Will make a thread once I've got something worth releasing. Ultimately I want to build OmniROM for it.
I bought a 64GB Kingston microSD card (model SDCX10/64GB) and it works like a charm.
My impression is that custom ROMs should make their way to the LTE model over time, the phone shares essentially the same board as the 3G variants, so it's not a huge step for a dev to support both devices so long as there's quality feedback and bug reports.
Quick question: fido says
Network and Wireless connection
LTE : AWS/2600/900/700 MHz
HSPA Bands: 850/1700/1900/2100 MHz
GSM Bands: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Download/Upload Speeds: HSDPA 42.2 Mbps, HSUPA 5.76Mbps
Bluetooth® 4.0
Wi-Fi®: 802.11 b/g/
I'm not sure if you are confirming it, but does this mean it will work with Wind?
The GSM (non lte) version says HSPA 1700 (aws), but the LTE version doesn't say aws beside it. Or is all HSPA 1700.. AWS?
I would go with LTE version, for the same price you get an extra feature, which will be better for resale and options in the future. Miscorsd card slot that can hold 32 gigs. There is no downfall in getting it, even if you don't need the features.
For absolutely no price difference, OFF COUSE get the LTE version... OMG... I'm really surprised there's people saying you should buy regular version... Even if you are not planning to use it now, having such great features for about the same price is definitely the way to go...
at the end of the day we're only giving opinions people. it's the buyers choice based on reviews which version he wants to get. no need to tell that you should defiantly buy the LTE version or 3G one. it's the persons choice so don't argue about which one he buys. just post reviews
ended up getting the lte version, unlocked it right away, working on wind now after cutting my sim to micro sim
anonxlg said:
ended up getting the lte version, unlocked it right away, working on wind now after cutting my sim to micro sim
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that's good .I cut my normal sim card to micro sim myself and now my sim card is jammed into sim port :laugh:
If you're living in a non LTE area, IMHO the only real advantage of Moto G LTE against the G is the gyro sensor. Card slot is a plus but it only comes with 8gb internal memory, that's a big disadvantage of the Moto G LTE. So i don't see it as an upgrade over Moto G. It's just another model for LTE martkets. Development wise Moto G is pretty popular, you can find it officially supported by all android dev teams. The development fate of the Moto G LTE still remain in dark.

Xperia Z3 D6603? or wait for US version? Tmobile LTE?

I'm thinking about getting this one
http://www.gsmnation.com/unlocked-sony-xperia-z3-dd6603.html
This should work on tmobile lte right? It says 1700/2100 bands, which are tmobiles lte bands i believe.
Also, how will this one be different than the one that sony is announcing in the US next week?
this one is 16gb while tmobile version is 32gb if it matters to you
Mwinggg said:
this one is 16gb while tmobile version is 32gb if it matters to you
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Hmm I guess that won't make a difference, especially with micro sd slot.
The D6603 will work great on Tmobile. Its missing band 12 I believe but I have not noticed a difference in 4G capability between this and a phone with Band 12 in the Phoenix or Los Angeles area. I wish I had the 32gb but that's mitigated with the SD card. Plus I get to avoid any Tmobile branding (if any) on the phone and I get the phone N-O-W!!!!!
Also on another note, you have access to a lot more LTE bands if you travel abroad a lot....with tombile's cheap LTE rates in other parts of the world this is also something to consider!
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It won't have T-Mobile's WiFi Calling capabilities.
from past experiences (z1s didn't have an unlockable bootloader), the z3 t-mobile version might have a locked bootloader too
just something that you should keep in mind, especially when you're on xda (where users are most likely to want to unlock their bootloaders)
From my experience the locked bootloader on the t-mo XZ didn't bother me as much as I originally thought it would. As long as there's some decent development (+ root without the need for unlocking obviously), custom stock Sony ROM's have been more than enough. The dev for what I think is the best stock rom on XZ isn't getting this one which is kinda a bummer. I'm going back and forth between this one and the new Nexus.
It appears that the T-mobile version won't be nearly as far behind as the XZ was.

On AT&T here. Buying a Z3 soon, some advice needed.

I'm contemplating a Z3 this month (Price drop when the Z3+/Z4 is released.) I'm seeing multiple model numbers for the Z3 & I need to know which one is best. I'd prefer one that's root-able and LTE enabled. Root should be easy with an international phone with the unlockable bootloaders. Is there a 32 MB variant?
Also do these models overheat and shut down the camera sensor like it did on the Z2 (I had it)? Currently using a Note 4 but I need a water proof phone for vacation coming next month!
ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
I'm contemplating a Z3 this month (Price drop when the Z3+/Z4 is released.) I'm seeing multiple model numbers for the Z3 & I need to know which one is best. I'd prefer one that's root-able and LTE enabled. Root should be easy with an international phone with the unlockable bootloaders. Is there a 32 MB variant?
Also do these models overheat and shut down the camera sensor like it did on the Z2 (I had it)? Currently using a Note 4 but I need a water proof phone for vacation coming next month!
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About model number there is a thread here on xda as for all rest, just short info: bootloader you need to unlock only...only if you want custom kernel, 32 GB is only T Mobile version as I read...it does overheat while recording 4K video (depending on environment temperature it can go from under 5 min, to unlimited on north pole LOL)...
nedooo said:
About model number there is a thread here on xda as for all rest, just short info: bootloader you need to unlock only...only if you want custom kernel, 32 GB is only T Mobile version as I read...it does overheat while recording 4K video (depending on environment temperature it can go from under 5 min, to unlimited on north pole LOL)...
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Does the T-Mobile variant have locked boot loaders? D6603 is the international 16GB model and I think the TMo is D6616... I'll have to find that thread somewhere...
ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Does the T-Mobile variant have locked boot loaders? D6603 is the international 16GB model and I think the TMo is D6616... I'll have to find that thread somewhere...
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6603 is international version...most common but mine bootloader can not be unlocked (says that in secret menu)...
I have the D6616 and love it but it only has 3 LTE bands and I believe most of them are the same as AT&T except it is missing one LTE band for AT&T, so for compatability sake get the international version D6603 and yes it's boot loader unlock able if you get unbranded version.
D6603 has only 16GB but better AT&T network compatability along with unlockable bootloader vs the D6616 whose only advantage is 32GB storage.
ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
I'm contemplating a Z3 this month (Price drop when the Z3+/Z4 is released.) I'm seeing multiple model numbers for the Z3 & I need to know which one is best. I'd prefer one that's root-able and LTE enabled. Root should be easy with an international phone with the unlockable bootloaders. Is there a 32 MB variant?
Also do these models overheat and shut down the camera sensor like it did on the Z2 (I had it)? Currently using a Note 4 but I need a water proof phone for vacation coming next month!
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D6603 direct from Sony's store has an unlockable bootloader.
http://store.sony.com/xperia-z3-lte...catid-Android-Smartphone?vva_ColorCode=FFFFFF
I can confirm that this device works GREAT on AT&T - it's been my daily driver since November
Entropy512 said:
D6603 direct from Sony's store has an unlockable bootloader.
http://store.sony.com/xperia-z3-lte...catid-Android-Smartphone?vva_ColorCode=FFFFFF
I can confirm that this device works GREAT on AT&T - it's been my daily driver since November
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Thank you, after reading the loss of some features after unlocking the bootloader I wonder if I should just root it with the bootloader locked?
Entropy, I'll trade you my ATT Note 4 for your D6603 ?

Differences between Australian, International and Dual Sim versions?

I'm mulling over upgrading to a Samsung S8+. The problem is that I want the Maple Gold version, but it's only available in the following forms:
* United States - Nope! Because I want the Exonys version because I want to root it.
* Australia - It's even got its own model number, different from all others, SM-G955FZDAXSA. I fear this might mean that the software and/or hardware is somehow inherently different from other International versions of the phone and I'll run into problems rooting it.
* A dual sim version - This can be hit or miss. Some dual sim versions can be rooted and flashed with the same custom roms as the non-dual sim version. Some require specific custom firmware in order to work properly or at all.
So what I want to know is whether or not the Australian version is different from other International (read: Non-U.S.) versions of the S8+ and whether or not the Dual Sim version can be rooted using the same methods and flashed with the same custom firmware as the single-sim version (though it might be too early to know this as of yet).
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I'm mulling over upgrading to a Samsung S8+. The problem is that I want the Maple Gold version, but it's only available in the following forms:
* United States - Nope! Because I want the Exonys version because I want to root it.
* Australia - It's even got its own model number, different from all others, SM-G955FZDAXSA. I fear this might mean that the software and/or hardware is somehow inherently different from other International versions of the phone and I'll run into problems rooting it.
* A dual sim version - This can be hit or miss. Some dual sim versions can be rooted and flashed with the same custom roms as the non-dual sim version. Some require specific custom firmware in order to work properly or at all.
So what I want to know is whether or not the Australian version is different from other International (read: Non-U.S.) versions of the S8+ and whether or not the Dual Sim version can be rooted using the same methods and flashed with the same custom firmware as the single-sim version (though it might be too early to know this as of yet).
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SM-G955FZDAXSA is just the product code that retailers use in Australia to maintain stocks etc, it's the SKU for the device.
SM-G955F is the actual model number, which is the international variant, which CAN be rooted. The 'XSA' part at the end is the CSC for Australia, all countries have a different one.
Here in Pakistan my S8 Plus is SM-G955FZKDPAK, the PAK at the end is obvious.
Dual SIM is called SM-G955FD, but the ROMs for 955F and 955FD are the same.
All the 955F models, whether Dual SIM or not have the Exynos 8895, unlocked bootloaders, can be rooted and you can use the custom ROMs available in the development section.
In short, all 955F models are the same (hardware wise). Nothing to worry about. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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SM-G955FZDAXSA is just the product code that retailers use in Australia to maintain stocks etc, it's the SKU for the device.
SM-G955F is the actual model number, which is the international variant, which CAN be rooted. The 'XSA' part at the end is the CSC for Australia, all countries have a different one.
Here in Pakistan my S8 Plus is SM-G955FZKDPAK, the PAK at the end is obvious.
Dual SIM is called SM-G955FD, but the ROMs for 955F and 955FD are the same.
All the 955F models, whether Dual SIM or not have the Exynos 8895, unlocked bootloaders, can be rooted and you can use the custom ROMs available in the development section.
In short, all 955F models are the same (hardware wise). Nothing to worry about. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Great! Thanks so much! I'll order a Maple Gold S8+ sometime later today then!
Thank you murtaza02 for the information. I found a good set of specifications for the GN-955FD here:
http://www.phonemore.com/phone/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-duos-sm-g955fd/3256
I found the device at a couple of retailers in NZ. I believe there may be errors in the specifications listed on their sites? Neither vendor lists the device as supporting LTE band 30, but I think they have just listed NZ bands. One vendor lists the chipset as Snapdragon. Is this even possible? The specifications at "phonemore" show it as available in blue, but I can't find one of these anywhere.
I wasn't aware that sim 2 only supports up to 2G (no 3G, 4G, or LTE on sim 2). Is this normal for dual sim phones?
there is information out regarding gluing a SIM card on top of an SD card, and using both. Would you happen to know, are people successful with this?
thanks!
XATAGuy said:
Thank you murtaza02 for the information. I found a good set of specifications for the GN-955FD here:
http://www.phonemore.com/phone/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-duos-sm-g955fd/3256
I found the device at a couple of retailers in NZ. I believe there may be errors in the specifications listed on their sites? Neither vendor lists the device as supporting LTE band 30, but I think they have just listed NZ bands. One vendor lists the chipset as Snapdragon. Is this even possible? The specifications at "phonemore" show it as available in blue, but I can't find one of these anywhere.
I wasn't aware that sim 2 only supports up to 2G (no 3G, 4G, or LTE on sim 2). Is this normal for dual sim phones?
there is information out regarding gluing a SIM card on top of an SD card, and using both. Would you happen to know, are people successful with this?
thanks!
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Apologies for the late reply. Quote me next time so I get a notification for it!
The 955FD only comes in Exynos 8895 and the compatible bands are the same as on the single SIM 955F.
SIM 2 only supports 2G, unfortunately.
As for the gluing SIM on the SDCard, it is not only dangerous because your SIM tray could get jammed or stuck, it has also been patched by Samsung.
People did this on the dual SIM S7 edge, a software update was released that wouldn't allow 2 SIMs and a microSD card to be used at the same time.
So I doubt that it'll work on the S8/S8+.
Sent from my SM-G955F
Hi I have a galaxy S8 from the USA, but I live in the UK. It is a G950U with sprint firmware but unlocked.
I flashed the F950U1 firmware. Now WiFi hotspot is working.
But I can figure out how to setup Samsung pay since it defaults to US.
Is there anything I can do to get out work?
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Hi I have a galaxy S8 from the USA, but I live in the UK. It is a G950U with sprint firmware but unlocked.
I flashed the F950U1 firmware. Now WiFi hotspot is working.
But I can figure out how to setup Samsung pay since it defaults to US.
Is there anything I can do to get out work?
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Samsung Pay on that model is only meant to work in the US.
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Hi thanks for the reply, is it possible to flash a UK firmware to get it work, I know UK has the G950F version and exynos processor, so bit worried if if would be a risk to take. Or is there anything I can do to change the location
JR5968 said:
Hi thanks for the reply, is it possible to flash a UK firmware to get it work, I know UK has the G950F version and exynos processor, so bit worried if if would be a risk to take. Or is there anything I can do to change the location
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You can't flash any Exynos firmwares on a Snapdragon device. And there are no UK firmwares available for a 950U.
The best I can suggest is to (if possible) uninstall the Samsung Pay app and framework, and install the ones from APKMirror and see if that works then.
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murtaza02 said:
You can't flash any Exynos firmwares on a Snapdragon device. And there are no UK firmwares available for a 950U.
The best I can suggest is to (if possible) uninstall the Samsung Pay app and framework, and install the ones from APKMirror and see if that works then.
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Hi, i bought s8+ from dubai (Model SM-G955FD). Is it possible to flash indian firmware.
RAMBOMMIREDDY said:
Hi, i bought s8+ from dubai (Model SM-G955FD). Is it possible to flash indian firmware.
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If you're in India, just download any OXM firmware, and flash it on your device WHILE AN ACTIVE INDIAN SIM CARD IS INSERTED.
You'll be on the Indian CSC and stuff like VoLTE and all should work fine.
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murtaza02 said:
If you're in India, just download any OXM firmware, and flash it on your device WHILE AN ACTIVE INDIAN SIM CARD IS INSERTED.
You'll be on the Indian CSC and stuff like VoLTE and all should work fine.
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Thank you for the reply. Ill do it.
Do Samsung US versions work fine in Pakistan
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SM-G955FZDAXSA is just the product code that retailers use in Australia to maintain stocks etc, it's the SKU for the device.
SM-G955F is the actual model number, which is the international variant, which CAN be rooted. The 'XSA' part at the end is the CSC for Australia, all countries have a different one.
Here in Pakistan my S8 Plus is SM-G955FZKDPAK, the PAK at the end is obvious.
Dual SIM is called SM-G955FD, but the ROMs for 955F and 955FD are the same.
All the 955F models, whether Dual SIM or not have the Exynos 8895, unlocked bootloaders, can be rooted and you can use the custom ROMs available in the development section.
In short, all 955F models are the same (hardware wise). Nothing to worry about. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Hi Murtaza,
Just wanted to check which is better to buy in Pakistan if I am not looking to root the device or install custom ROMs. I have the option to buy two types of Dual SIM variants of Samsung Galaxy S8 +. The first is the international version G955FD and the second is an Xfinity version 955U.
Which would run better in Pakistan? I am getting the US version cheaper and just wondering if there is a reason? As far as the benchmarks go both Exynos and Qualcomm versions are almost at par as per YouTube videos. So is there some other issue? Or is it just because the US versions are priced lower in the international market.
Secondly kindly confirm your comment about the second SIM being only 2G. As per my understanding, if I switch the data network, the other SIM becomes 4G as well. Or in the case of SO, I will have to physically shift the SIMs.
Would really appreciate some support on the above two queries.
Thank you.
sikander5 said:
Hi Murtaza,
Just wanted to check which is better to buy in Pakistan if I am not looking to root the device or install custom ROMs. I have the option to buy two types of Dual SIM variants of Samsung Galaxy S8 +. The first is the international version G955FD and the second is an Xfinity version 955U.
Which would run better in Pakistan? I am getting the US version cheaper and just wondering if there is a reason? As far as the benchmarks go both Exynos and Qualcomm versions are almost at par as per YouTube videos. So is there some other issue? Or is it just because the US versions are priced lower in the international market.
Secondly kindly confirm your comment about the second SIM being only 2G. As per my understanding, if I switch the data network, the other SIM becomes 4G as well. Or in the case of SO, I will have to physically shift the SIMs.
Would really appreciate some support on the above two queries.
Thank you.
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Hi Sikander,
Choice is entirely yours, if you are not planning to root, then it doesn't really matter whether you get the G955FD or the G955U.
However, do not get fooled by the shady shopkeepers in Pakistan. The Xfinity G955U (or any G955U for that matter) is NOT Dual-SIM, it is only available in Single SIM, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
The only Dual-SIM Exynos version of the S8+ is SM-G955FD.
As for which would run better in Pakistan, doesn't make a difference again. 2G/3G/4G will work on both of them. And yes, the 955U is cheaper because US variants are generally priced cheaper here due to lack of warranty and whatnot.
The second SIM is 2G only when SIM 1 is in 4G mode. Without physically changing SIMs, you can change SIM 2 to 4G, but then SIM 1 will be changed to 2G.
Also, I have to update. It's not 2G only, it's actually 3G/2G.
So if SIM 1 is in 2G/3G/4G mode, SIM 2 can be in 3G/2G or just 2G mode, depending on what you choose. Network modes can be changed around on the slots without physically removing the SIM slot and swapping them around so you don't have to worry about that.
Let me know if you have any more questions.
Regards,
Murtaza
murtaza02 said:
Hi Sikander,
Choice is entirely yours, if you are not planning to root, then it doesn't really matter whether you get the G955FD or the G955U.
However, do not get fooled by the shady shopkeepers in Pakistan. The Xfinity G955U (or any G955U for that matter) is NOT Dual-SIM, it is only available in Single SIM, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
The only Dual-SIM Exynos version of the S8+ is SM-G955FD.
As for which would run better in Pakistan, doesn't make a difference again. 2G/3G/4G will work on both of them. And yes, the 955U is cheaper because US variants are generally priced cheaper here due to lack of warranty and whatnot.
The second SIM is 2G only when SIM 1 is in 4G mode. Without physically changing SIMs, you can change SIM 2 to 4G, but then SIM 1 will be changed to 2G.
Also, I have to update. It's not 2G only, it's actually 3G/2G.
So if SIM 1 is in 2G/3G/4G mode, SIM 2 can be in 3G/2G or just 2G mode, depending on what you choose. Network modes can be changed around on the slots without physically removing the SIM slot and swapping them around so you don't have to worry about that.
Let me know if you have any more questions.
Regards,
Murtaza
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Dear Murtaza
I don't actually buy phones from local vendors anymore. One doesn't really know if they sell New or Reburbished models.
I generally buy from Homeshopping.com, and I have ordered at times from Daraz.pk.
The phone options I was looking at are as under.
https://homeshopping.pk/products/Samsung-Galaxy-S8-Plus-G955F-Price-in-Pakistan.html
https://homeshopping.pk/products/Samsung-Galaxy-S8-Plus-Orchid-Gray-Price-in-Pakistan.html
The first one is the Xfinity version and second is the FDD version. Both are with non official warranty, but getting it with warranty is around 12 K more. But I haven't had any issues with their devices so far.
Any idea about the 955FX version. My Cousin got one about a week back, but I am not sure which variant is that, as it is not even posted on GSM arena. Supposedly it is Dual SiM and an International variant. Still have to do a Abit of research on it.
I switched over to Chinese version a few months back. Very impressed with the phone in all aspects, but the only issue is that the Navigation is useless. The GPS keeps bouncing on GMaps. Its elephone S7. The other issue was Wi-Fi reception which is not that great. I think it was a radio issue, but not sure whether it was hardware or software. There is not much ROM development for the phone. Otherwise it would have been a great phone, with almost a vanilla ROM and hardware specs close to a flagship.
Anyway, just decided to go for a branded phone this time.
Waiting for the Black Friday deals to come up. Might buy the note 8 or S8 plus. Let's see.
Thanks once again.
sikander5 said:
Dear Murtaza
I don't actually buy phones from local vendors anymore. One doesn't really know if they sell New or Reburbished models.
I generally buy from Homeshopping.com, and I have ordered at times from Daraz.pk.
The phone options I was looking at are as under.
https://homeshopping.pk/products/Samsung-Galaxy-S8-Plus-G955F-Price-in-Pakistan.html
https://homeshopping.pk/products/Samsung-Galaxy-S8-Plus-Orchid-Gray-Price-in-Pakistan.html
The first one is the Xfinity version and second is the FDD version. Both are with non official warranty, but getting it with warranty is around 12 K more. But I haven't had any issues with their devices so far.
Any idea about the 955FX version. My Cousin got one about a week back, but I am not sure which variant is that, as it is not even posted on GSM arena. Supposedly it is Dual SiM and an International variant. Still have to do a Abit of research on it.
I switched over to Chinese version a few months back. Very impressed with the phone in all aspects, but the only issue is that the Navigation is useless. The GPS keeps bouncing on GMaps. Its elephone S7. The other issue was Wi-Fi reception which is not that great. I think it was a radio issue, but not sure whether it was hardware or software. There is not much ROM development for the phone. Otherwise it would have been a great phone, with almost a vanilla ROM and hardware specs close to a flagship.
Anyway, just decided to go for a branded phone this time.
Waiting for the Black Friday deals to come up. Might buy the note 8 or S8 plus. Let's see.
Thanks once again.
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955FX isn't a model number, 955X might be one but that's the demo / display unit used in stores and that has no cellular radio or SIM slot.
Do confirm the model number with him and then see.
Be cautious with HomeShopping though.
Sent from my G8142
murtaza02 said:
955FX isn't a model number, 955X might be one but that's the demo / display unit used in stores and that has no cellular radio or SIM slot.
Do confirm the model number with him and then see.
Be cautious with HomeShopping though.
Sent from my G8142
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Will confirm the model number. I am pretty sure it's not a display version as he is using it. Will confirm once again.
Ok. Thanks. Will do on both counts. I have been buying stuff from Homeshopping since 6 years when I bought my first And if HTC Desire Z. Not had any complaints, but some people in my family have.
Take care.
SM-G955FD Dual Sim - CSC United Arab Emirates
murtaza02 said:
Hi Sikander,
Choice is entirely yours, if you are not planning to root, then it doesn't really matter whether you get the G955FD or the G955U.
However, do not get fooled by the shady shopkeepers in Pakistan. The Xfinity G955U (or any G955U for that matter) is NOT Dual-SIM, it is only available in Single SIM, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
The only Dual-SIM Exynos version of the S8+ is SM-G955FD.
As for which would run better in Pakistan, doesn't make a difference again. 2G/3G/4G will work on both of them. And yes, the 955U is cheaper because US variants are generally priced cheaper here due to lack of warranty and whatnot.
The second SIM is 2G only when SIM 1 is in 4G mode. Without physically changing SIMs, you can change SIM 2 to 4G, but then SIM 1 will be changed to 2G.
Also, I have to update. It's not 2G only, it's actually 3G/2G.
So if SIM 1 is in 2G/3G/4G mode, SIM 2 can be in 3G/2G or just 2G mode, depending on what you choose. Network modes can be changed around on the slots without physically removing the SIM slot and swapping them around so you don't have to worry about that.
Let me know if you have any more questions.
Regards,
Murtaza
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I Purchases this phone in Kuwait. I travel around the world a lot and one function I've noticed not in this phones software is Wi-Fi calling. When I'm not traveling I'm on the USA on the T-Mobile network. Which software can I change the phone to to get Wi-Fi calling to work? Would Deutsch Telekom (T-mobile Germany) be the one to use for my dual SIM? Do they even make a dual sim for Germany? Please, any help and/ or direction would be awesome.
YukonJoe said:
I Purchases this phone in Kuwait. I travel around the world a lot and one function I've noticed not in this phones software is Wi-Fi calling. When I'm not traveling I'm on the USA on the T-Mobile network. Which software can I change the phone to to get Wi-Fi calling to work? Would Deutsch Telekom (T-mobile Germany) be the one to use for my dual SIM? Do they even make a dual sim for Germany? Please, any help and/ or direction would be awesome.
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WiFi calling is carrier based. So it'll only work when you've got the SIM from your main carrier and the same carrier firmware to go with it.
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I got a UK unlocked s8 at the moment and Wi-Fi calling works flawlessly with a o2 sim. So I think if you have a carrier unlocked phone, it's up to the carrier

Possible to get Global version for use on US Carriers?

hi i'm still running an M8 but the U11 looks like finally the phone that will trigger me to upgrade. I'm confused about how the US versions will be getting 4GB RAM 64GB storage, while the international versions will get 6GB RAM 128GB storage.
Anyone know if it's possible to get the international version to work on US Carrier? I'm on AT&T.
Thanks
excited to see how the edge sensitivity stuff works out
grafik2 said:
hi i'm still running an M8 but the U11 looks like finally the phone that will trigger me to upgrade. I'm confused about how the US versions will be getting 4GB RAM 64GB storage, while the international versions will get 6GB RAM 128GB storage.
Anyone know if it's possible to get the international version to work on US Carrier? I'm on AT&T.
Thanks
excited to see how the edge sensitivity stuff works out
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Wrong information mate. All countries will get the same 4GB RAM/64GB internal configuration. Only difference are Taiwan and China were HTC will ship an 6GB RAM/128GB internal version as well. If your not running dual SIM the 64GB variant would suffice I think. But if you really want the larger storage you'd have to import it. Don't know if all US bands are present on this asian versions and if it'll run on AT&T though.
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Gotcha. Well thanks for the info. I won't need dual SIM and use an SD card so I was really just interested in getting 25% more RAM if it wasn't hard to get an international version.
grafik2 said:
Gotcha. Well thanks for the info. I won't need dual SIM and use an SD card so I was really just interested in getting 25% more RAM if it wasn't hard to get an international version.
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Not necessary to have those extra juice. Didn't make a lot in terms of performance on such a phone. Especially as long as it is driven by such an SoC and very well done software optimization.
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should be fine with sd835 and 4 gb
Watch out for the dual sim variants. They don't have all the US bands.
I was kinda bummed about this too, but at least we have an SD card slot and HTC doesn't bloat the hell out of their phones with crap like "Touchwiz" so I think it wouldn't make much difference.
5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Wrong information mate. All countries will get the same 4GB RAM/64GB internal configuration. Only difference are Taiwan and China were HTC will ship an 6GB RAM/128GB internal version as well. If your not running dual SIM the 64GB variant would suffice I think. But if you really want the larger storage you'd have to import it. Don't know if all US bands are present on this asian versions and if it'll run on AT&T though.
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Wait, but there's five MIDs, two of which are dual-SIM. So how can "all countries be getting the same 4/64 config"?
Kisakuku said:
Wait, but there's five MIDs, two of which are dual-SIM. So how can "all countries be getting the same 4/64 config"?
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Yeah I know bit MID isn't directly tied to storage options. And as far as I know EMEA and US and others are getting 4GB/64GB, while Aisa is the only region getting 6GB/128GB.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Yeah I know bit MID isn't directly tied to storage options. And as far as I know EMEA and US and others are getting 4GB/64GB, while Aisa is the only region getting 6GB/128GB.
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Right, I just wanted to make sure that by "the same 4/64 config" you didn't mean all 4/64 devices have the same MID )
Also, @hamdir reported ME is getting 6/128.
fr0st420 said:
Watch out for the dual sim variants. They don't have all the US bands.
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Can you please elaborate, or tell me where I can find out more on this? I need a dual sim device and I'm AT&T. Thanks!
XATAGuy said:
Can you please elaborate, or tell me where I can find out more on this? I need a dual sim device and I'm AT&T. Thanks!
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You'd have to import one from China / Taiwan / Europe / Middle East or buy a gray market device on Ebay, etc.

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