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[Q] About the screen

I watched a few reviews of the Nexus 5 and in the most part the screen appears a little washed out, with very low contrast.
Is the screen really that bad? I don't expect it to be the best in the market for 350 bucks, but neither do I want to have a device that looks like somebody glued a thin piece of paper on top of the display.

GodSlayer said:
I watched a few reviews of the Nexus 5 and in the most part the screen appears a little washed out, with very low contrast.
Is the screen really that bad? I don't expect it to be the best in the market for 350 bucks, but neither do I want to have a device that looks like somebody glued a thin piece of paper on top of the display.
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Every review I've read has praised the LCD image quality.

GodSlayer said:
I watched a few reviews of the Nexus 5 and in the most part the screen appears a little washed out, with very low contrast.
Is the screen really that bad? I don't expect it to be the best in the market for 350 bucks, but neither do I want to have a device that looks like somebody glued a thin piece of paper on top of the display.
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the display is, for the respect of colour accuracy aso. far better than the nexus4s/ but the led strip are shining through the edges i you're looking from the sides.. not a major problem but it's there - anyway not a bad screen at all

Well.. see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512914

GodSlayer said:
I watched a few reviews of the Nexus 5 and in the most part the screen appears a little washed out, with very low contrast.
Is the screen really that bad? I don't expect it to be the best in the market for 350 bucks, but neither do I want to have a device that looks like somebody glued a thin piece of paper on top of the display.
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Honestly, the screen is pretty bad. It's the thing I hate most about my N5. Like you said, low contrast and fairly washed out colors. The black levels are downright terrible, and it's also got some viewing angle problems. It's passable, but that's about the closest thing to a compliment I can say about it. Unfortunately, the crappy screen belies the overall quality of the phone. It's a great device, LG just cut the wrong corners.

I don't have a problem with the screen. Nothing about it seems worse than my old Rezound.
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I like the display. Coming from a iPhone 5, I don't notice much difference in contrast and temperature.

GodSlayer said:
I watched a few reviews of the Nexus 5 and in the most part the screen appears a little washed out, with very low contrast.
Is the screen really that bad? I don't expect it to be the best in the market for 350 bucks, but neither do I want to have a device that looks like somebody glued a thin piece of paper on top of the display.
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Doesn't seem washed out at all its very clean crisp and clear
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"It’s interesting to hear some Nexus 5 users complain that the display seems undersaturated, since that kind of end user feedback reflects subjective comparison. It also suggests to me that a large percentage of the population doesn’t know what some colors or system elements actually should be. Even for me, looking at the green elements inside the Google Play store on the Note 3 in movie mode or Nexus 5 initially seemed slightly more muted than normal. The reality is that this is what they actually should look like. We’ve just become accustomed to their oversaturated appearance on virtually every other device.
This kind of expectation about what looks right and what doesn’t is rather telling for the state of display calibration in Android handsets, and how OEMs have used oversaturated colors to increase retail shelf appeal. Unfortunately the reality is that oversaturated colors do seem to win taste tests among shoppers, the same way that TVs in most big boxes do. We’ve been looking at them for so long that well calibrated displays like Nexus 5 initially do look noticeably different.
The end result is easy to sum up, however – Nexus 5 has the best calibrated display I’ve seen so far in any Android handset. It’s also leaps and bounds more accurate and controlled than its predecessor display in the Nexus 4." - Anandtech Review
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I think the N5 has one of the best screens I've used on a phone so far. People that say it's dull and washed-out are probably those who prefer the blown out colors of AMOLED screens.

Coming from an sgs2 with amoled screen I love the truer colors and clarity of this screen!
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I got my nexus 5 and was worried about the screen, but no issues. No dead pixels, the screen only slightly washes out when viewed at an angle (meaning only people nitpicky people would be annoyed by it. I personally think the screen is still easy to view, and read from even an extreme angle. But I have seen videos of others with nexus 5's that looked unbearable, so I'm sure the issue exists. Maybe I just got lucky and different screen hardware.
I dont really notice washed out colors in general, but the color temps are definitely different than my iPhone 5, which to me felt a bit too bright/blue compared to my nexus, easier on the eyes.
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This screen isn't washed out. You want washed out, get in a time machine and order a launch Nexus 4.
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Nexus 5 screen is one of top pick on the market for those who said the color or contact washout are getting poisoned by Samsung devices what you see on nexus 5 screen is more natural and real color. If people complain the nexus 5 screen are easy to break I will agree but not the color.
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SamBG said:
"It’s interesting to hear some Nexus 5 users complain that the display seems undersaturated, since that kind of end user feedback reflects subjective comparison. It also suggests to me that a large percentage of the population doesn’t know what some colors or system elements actually should be. Even for me, looking at the green elements inside the Google Play store on the Note 3 in movie mode or Nexus 5 initially seemed slightly more muted than normal. The reality is that this is what they actually should look like. We’ve just become accustomed to their oversaturated appearance on virtually every other device.
This kind of expectation about what looks right and what doesn’t is rather telling for the state of display calibration in Android handsets, and how OEMs have used oversaturated colors to increase retail shelf appeal. Unfortunately the reality is that oversaturated colors do seem to win taste tests among shoppers, the same way that TVs in most big boxes do. We’ve been looking at them for so long that well calibrated displays like Nexus 5 initially do look noticeably different.
The end result is easy to sum up, however – Nexus 5 has the best calibrated display I’ve seen so far in any Android handset. It’s also leaps and bounds more accurate and controlled than its predecessor display in the Nexus 4." - Anandtech Review
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This needs to be stickied and/or posted on every LCD quality thread.

bblzd said:
This needs to be stickied and/or posted on every LCD quality thread.
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Contrast (true blacks)

How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the Huawei Nexus 6P's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.
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Great contrast thanks to AMOLED

It gets backly black as if the screen was off exactly like other OLED displays I've used(S4, Note 4, S6)
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AMOLED
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Actually, in real world usage blacks are pretty poor/washed out, unless you're in a dark room. When the screen is off you can see the surface of the screen is much lighter than, say, Samsung AMOLED phones. It's more like greenish dark grey rather than black so even if the actual pixels are turned off, it doesn't look black. It's even worse than many LCDs. I have no idea how come no one has mentioned this in any reviews, or at least I've never seen it.

Jockson said:
Actually, in real world usage blacks are pretty poor/washed out, unless you're in a dark room. When the screen is off you can see the surface of the screen is much lighter than, say, Samsung AMOLED phones. It's more like greenish dark grey rather than black so even if the actual pixels are turned off, it doesn't look black. It's even worse than many LCDs. I have no idea how come no one has mentioned this in any reviews, or at least I've never seen it.
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ROFL are you hallucinating? My 6P's blacks are pitch black. The way I can tell... The edge of the screen, when black, is equal to the blacks on the top and bottom of the screen.

Eric214 said:
ROFL are you hallucinating? My 6P's blacks are pitch black. The way I can tell... The edge of the screen, when black, is equal to the blacks on the top and bottom of the screen.
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Except that is not true. Take a look at the screen when it is turned off. The surrounding bezel is truly black but the screen itself is greenish gray, meaning blacks are not getting darker than that. Then look at a Samsung AMOLED phone and you'll see it's the other way around, it's the screen itself that is as black as it gets. Samsung obviously uses different filters/polarizers which result in much better blacks in anything other than total darkness. I just compared my 6P to an old Galaxy S2 and again, the S2 has much deeper blacks thanks to the actual surface being much darker. You only really get true pitch black when you're using the 6P in a dark room. Otherwise blacks are pretty much on par with your average LCD, which is a poor result for an AMOLED screen.

Jockson said:
Except that is not true. Take a look at the screen when it is turned off. The surrounding bezel is truly black but the screen itself is greenish gray, meaning blacks are not getting darker than that. Then look at a Samsung AMOLED phone and you'll see it's the other way around, it's the screen itself that is as black as it gets. Samsung obviously uses different filters/polarizers which result in much better blacks in anything other than total darkness. I just compared my 6P to an old Galaxy S2 and again, the S2 has much deeper blacks thanks to the actual surface being much darker. You only really get true pitch black when you're using the 6P in a dark room. Otherwise blacks are pretty much on par with your average LCD, which is a poor result for an AMOLED screen.
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Well, it's true on mine. Maybe your panel is different then mine. I just compared my 6P to my Note 4 and they look the same. Which makes sense since Huawei buys there panels from Samsung so they are the same panels. Only difference is Samsung panels get a few nits brighter.
Guess we can agree to disagree. Especially since you can get different quality panels from phone to phone. Just like that can happen on Samsung phones.
Oh and I forgot, there are no filters to make blacks, black as you don't filter light on Amoled screens. The pixel just doesn't receive power so the pixel is off, not filtered. What you are referring to is an LCD panel, not Amoled

Eric214 said:
Well, it's true on mine. Maybe your panel is different then mine. I just compared my 6P to my Note 4 and they look the same. Which makes sense since Huawei buys there panels from Samsung so they are the same panels. Only difference is Samsung panels get a few nits brighter.
Guess we can agree to disagree. Especially since you can get different quality panels from phone to phone. Just like that can happen on Samsung phones.
Oh and I forgot, there are no filters to make blacks, black as you don't filter light on Amoled screens. The pixel just doesn't receive power so the pixel is off, not filtered. What you are referring to is an LCD panel, not Amoled
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It has nothing to do with pixels being off. Look here https://technology.ihs.com/509943/w...izer-technology-trend-of-amoled-use-polarizer
Remember the first Nexus, the Nexus One? It also had an amoled screen, with terrible blacks. How was that possible? Because the actual surface of the screen was so reflective, if there was even a little bit of ambient light reaching the screen it would completely wash it out. Whether the actual pixels emitted any light was irrelevant in any other conditions other than complete darkness.
There are no different panels being used on the 6P. Just take the phone out of a dark room and you'll see the screen is clearly not as black as the bezels when it's turned off. I have so far compared it to the following phones: Note 5, S6 edge, S4, S4 mini, S2. All of them have deeper blacks than the 6P due to their surface being darker. It may be a Samsung panel but it's not the same one as used by Samsung on their devices. Even Anandtech have mentioned it uses different lamination which actually provides slightly better viewing angles. What's strange is that the more off angle you go, the lighter the surface appears. Can be seen in this video comparing the 6P to the 5X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXtDCBSKQV8&t=3m44s Obviously it's not as bad when looking head on but it's still pretty poor for an amoled screen.

Jockson said:
It has nothing to do with pixels being off. Look here https://technology.ihs.com/509943/w...izer-technology-trend-of-amoled-use-polarizer
Remember the first Nexus, the Nexus One? It also had an amoled screen, with terrible blacks. How was that possible? Because the actual surface of the screen was so reflective, if there was even a little bit of ambient light reaching the screen it would completely wash it out. Whether the actual pixels emitted any light was irrelevant in any other conditions other than complete darkness.
There are no different panels being used on the 6P. Just take the phone out of a dark room and you'll see the screen is clearly not as black as the bezels when it's turned off. I have so far compared it to the following phones: Note 5, S6 edge, S4, S4 mini, S2. All of them have deeper blacks than the 6P due to their surface being darker. It may be a Samsung panel but it's not the same one as used by Samsung on their devices. Even Anandtech have mentioned it uses different lamination which actually provides slightly better viewing angles. What's strange is that the more off angle you go, the lighter the surface appears. Can be seen in this video comparing the 6P to the 5X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXtDCBSKQV8&t=3m44s Obviously it's not as bad when looking head on but it's still pretty poor for an amoled screen.
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Hmmm sorry man mine is just black. Agree to disagree. Can't say any better then that. I'm moving on. If your not happy with the phone for that reason, sell it and get a Samsung.

Well, it was nice discussing with you but one may as well say "mine is pink, agree to disagree". It doesn't really mean anything as far as facts go.
I just took out my old Nexus 5 and surprise surprise, it absolutely kills the 6P when it comes to black depth in well lit conditions. The surface of the screen simply reflects way too much light.

Hahaha so many people here producing disinformations...
AMOLED, especiall Super, has 0.098% of light coming thru when fully black but on. That's the blackest as it gets.
6P, Note's, S6, S7. have the BEST SCREENS around. And by far.
Turn on sRGB mode in developer options if u want, a bit washed, but 100% accurate colors. What u see is what u get on print. But why would u use that, unless you're a professional photographer like me.

mihovil13 said:
AMOLED, especiall Super, has 0.098% of light coming thru when fully black but on. That's the blackest as it gets.
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Coming through what? Screen surface reflectiveness is what matters the most when it comes to black depth outdoors. LCDs have extremely high MEASURED black levels in comparison to AMOLED but you can't see that outside because of ambient light. Case in point, the 6P looks worse than most good LCDs outside. It's like when people claim plasma TVs have amazing blacks but forget to mention that is only true in low light conditions.

Jockson I understand and agree with you. The screen on the 6P has a lighter surface color than the black bezels above and below which is noticeable. It isn't a major detractor from the visual quality screen on, but I agree that in a bright setting, blacks don't get to be as black as could be. It isn't bad by any means, but unless you get a completely black unreflective layer it may not be easy to improve (or Samsung is hogging it all to themselves).
Either way, you're right though the quality of the screen is still really good on the 6P so, yea. Still like my 6P, even after using a HTC 10 with it for the past 6 months. Both great, but the 6P has me returning to it more, for now.

Finally someone understands what I'm talking about. I don't want to "sell this phone and buy a Samsung then". I already had the Note 5 and got rid of it for the 6P. Love this phone, love the screen as well in low light conditions. But this really caught me by surprise. I've switched to a full black theme and outside, it really shows how washed out it really is. On a cloudy day outside, blacks on the Note 5 look almost perfectly black and yet the 6P next to it looks horribly washed out and more like greenish grey. I knew it wouldn't compete with the Note 5 in direct sunlight but it's pretty disappointing that it loses out considerably in medium light conditions as well. And not only to the Note 5 but to the ancient S2 as well. The display surface just doesn't look like any Samsung amoled phone ever which is pretty strange.

Jockson said:
Well, it was nice discussing with you but one may as well say "mine is pink, agree to disagree". It doesn't really mean anything as far as facts go.
I just took out my old Nexus 5 and surprise surprise, it absolutely kills the 6P when it comes to black depth in well lit conditions. The surface of the screen simply reflects way too much light.
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I agree with this completely. It's pretty hard not to notice that there is a definite green/brown tint to the display in contrast to the surrounding black bezel when in good ambient light. I came from a Nexus 4 and I was immediately disappointed by this aspect of the 6P display. Since then I have reconciled this disappointment with the fact that the 6P is overall a fantastic phone with substantially better value than other premium phones.
I'm not 100% sure that it's much better on Samsung devices because Samsung goes out of its way to mask this issue by making the top and bottom bezels of their phones different (non-black) colors. I'll even go so far as to suggest that the curved display on the Edge was a gimmicky attempt to obscure this issue. This, among others, is an AMOLED problem and why Apple hasn't used them. Still love the 6P, especially now on Nougat.

You are absolutely right regarding Samsung making their bezels non black. Even on their black phones bezels are often very, very dark grey. But still, their screens do have far less reflective surface. I wasn't really sure myself was it such a big difference until I compared it side by side with the Note 5, S6 edge and S2. The 6P just looks green and very washed out in comparison.
People often forget it's the perception of contrast that matters, not the absolute measured black level. LCD often gets criticized for poor contrast but visually it has deeper blacks than plasma and CRT do, except in low ambient light. Same story with the 6P. Great blacks when there isn't much light around, otherwise pretty poor and washed out.

Jockson said:
You are absolutely right regarding Samsung making their bezels non black. Even on their black phones bezels are often very, very dark grey. But still, their screens do have far less reflective surface. I wasn't really sure myself was it such a big difference until I compared it side by side with the Note 5, S6 edge and S2. The 6P just looks green and very washed out in comparison.
People often forget it's the perception of contrast that matters, not the absolute measured black level. LCD often gets criticized for poor contrast but visually it has deeper blacks than plasma and CRT do, except in low ambient light. Same story with the 6P. Great blacks when there isn't much light around, otherwise pretty poor and washed out.
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Well yes if the screen is off and you're in sunlight, you can see the difference from the bezel. That's normal for every phone. I rarely use my phone in direct sunlight. I'm talking about normal use and when the screen is on, I can not tell the difference if say the status bar is black and the edge/top/bottom of the bezel. So if you're just talking about screen off and in bright light/sunlight.... that's every phone basically. But I don't stare at my phone and worry about how dark the screen is when it's off.

Eric214 said:
ROFL are you hallucinating? My 6P's blacks are pitch black. The way I can tell... The edge of the screen, when black, is equal to the blacks on the top and bottom of the screen.
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That's true. I usually root to get the tinted navigation bar but this time i didn't root to get that because the blacks are usually same as the bezel of the phone which looks damn good.

Eric214 said:
Well yes if the screen is off and you're in sunlight, you can see the difference from the bezel. That's normal for every phone. I rarely use my phone in direct sunlight. I'm talking about normal use and when the screen is on, I can not tell the difference if say the status bar is black and the edge/top/bottom of the bezel. So if you're just talking about screen off and in bright light/sunlight.... that's every phone basically. But I don't stare at my phone and worry about how dark the screen is when it's off.
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How dark the screen is when it is turned off IS what the blacks actually look like. It can't look any darker than that, the screen doesn't emit the "black" color When there is bright content on the screen it just tricks your eyes/brain into thinking black areas are darker than they really are but in reality, contrast is still pretty poor.
I'm not talking about direct sunlight either. Even in medium ambient light blacks wash out considerably. Certainly MUCH more than they do on Samsung AMOLED phones and most LCDs so no, not every phone is the same. The 6P display just isn't very good in this regard.

Screen max brightness (outdoor visibility)

Anyone know how much nits the U11 display has?
And how is it under direct sunlight compared to the HTC 10 (which was very bad)?
Some reviews state that the screen is bright and some claim that the screen is dim. Don't know what is true

Any news about that?

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Any news about that?
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I only read that it's brighter than the HTC 10 (which I have no trouble reading in the sun).

Hamdir, who has the s8 and u11 guesstimates it's around 500-520 nits

dlorde said:
I only read that it's brighter than the HTC 10 (which I have no trouble reading in the sun).
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Well, maybe your sun is different than mine or your eyes are stronger
HTC 10 is barely visible under direct sunlight in contrary to any Samsung flagship device since the Note 4 back in 2014 (which I possess at the moment).
All devices under 500 nits are useless in direct sunlight and the country I'm living in has 9-10 months of strong sunlight every year so that's really important for me.

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Hamdir, who has the s8 and u11 guesstimates it's around 500-520 nits
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So, if I'm not mistaken, is it as bright as the U Ultra?
If it is so it should be just decent enough to use under direct sunlight
That's good news and I'm hoping it will be even brighter.
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-U-Ultra-Review_id4328

tal_sarid said:
Well, maybe your sun is different than mine or your eyes are stronger
HTC 10 is barely visible under direct sunlight in contrary to any Samsung flagship device since the Note 4 back in 2014 (which I possess at the moment).
All devices under 500 nits are useless in direct sunlight and the country I'm living in has 9-10 months of strong sunlight every year so that's really important for me.
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I'm in the UK, so maybe the sun's not as bright as some places, because I've not had trouble reading in the sun - as long as reflections off the screen aren't too strong. I couldn't do that with previous phones (HTC One Mini 2, One S, & Desire). Lucky me, I guess

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I'm in the UK, so maybe the sun's not as bright as some places, because I've not had trouble reading in the sun - as long as reflections off the screen aren't too strong. I couldn't do that with previous phones (HTC One Mini 2, One S, & Desire). Lucky me, I guess
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Haha, maybe I should live in the UK too, this should solve my problem

Just watched a review that shows how the screen looks like under direct sunlight.
It's clearly better than the 10 and visible under direct sunlight...
https://youtu.be/cMuF4XaTf98?t=2m26s

Well, got my answer from HTC U11 review by PhoneArena: 528 nits
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-U11-Review_id4361

See Attached Image. HTC U11 Brightness Scored!

Screen Experience so far
GREAT! It is far better than the HTC 10. In bright sun you can read the screen when it was not possible on the HTC 10. Colours and contrast look (subjectively) much better too. I am very happy - and as I've reported elsewhere you can actually see the screen in portrait mode with polarising glasses now - great in the car when driving (and yes we do actually need sunglasses in the UK - sometimes).

Do any one see a red tint especially noticable on whites as I see?

rajeshkapa said:
Do any one see a red tint especially noticable on whites as I see?
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Adjust the color temperature in the display settings.

rajeshkapa said:
Do any one see a red tint especially noticable on whites as I see?
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I'm seeing the same thing as you, a slightly red hue on the whites. I tried to monkey around with the temperature control feature but still wasn't able to get it bright white. Glad to know I'm not alone.

Outdoor visibility (max brightness)

Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Samsung Galaxy S10e's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
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Gets super bright, absolutely gorgeous unit of a display even under direct sun light!

Absolutely shocked, my previous phone (mate 9) is much brighter and it's IPS LCD !!
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Mashari_F said:
Absolutely shocked, my previous phone (mate 9) is much brighter and it's IPS LCD !!
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My brightness is so much brighter than my S8 and my Note 8.
The S10e screen is phenomenal in the sun compared to those
Turn on the auto brightness so it can hit the maximum.
Change the color for the display to Vivid instead of Natural if outdoors because it has a wider color gamut and will show better.
I prefer natural but if I need to read outdoors I change it. You can notice it on the boosted auto brightness max.
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Mashari_F said:
Absolutely shocked, my previous phone (mate 9) is much brighter and it's IPS LCD !!
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Turn on auto brightness, S10e display is much brighter and less reflective than Mate 9...

I am considering getting one of these so this is good to know.

The auto brightness outdoors works relatively well. It just might be my phone or my eyes, but it appears more orange/red when it's on full auto-brightness

Absolute no issues with display quality

Note20 Ultra screen wearing poorly after a year

So I've had the Note20 Ultra 512 GB since release last year. Image retention has always been there, but never resulted in burn in so I ignored that. However, now the screen uniformity is getting worse. The area around the fingerprint sensor and a rectangle about half an inch around the edges of the screen are a different darkness level. It's very visible on gray screens and medium colors at any brightness. I also have an S20+ that is not exhibiting any of the issues I see here. I remember having my Note 9 under neon lights and the half inch ring was noticeable, but could not be seen in normal lighting or dark environments. I was hoping to pass this phone to a family member when the S22 Ultra comes out, but I have concerns about screen longevity. Anyone else noticing this?
See this for an example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote20/comments/l0svom

The S22U is worse from what I'm seeing; a lot of display issues. Display just going black after a reboot or charge, whatever... dead as Zed.
Plus no SD card slot, no native spen and running on the dog OS Android 11. All that for a premium flagship price. Yes, well...
What brightness level are you running it at?
Use it in direct sunlight except occasionally for a few seconds?
I keep my N10+ at less than 50% about 99% of the time. I use dark mode and near black wallpaper. Minimum red icons. Mostly because I prefer not burning out my eyes but also OLED preservation. I use manual brightness control only.
At 2 years my heavily used 10+ shows no display degradation even compared to my new one.
See what you, use ScreenTest to make sure you actually have any changes with the display. You really shouldn't. If you been conservative with your brightness and you have degradation it's likely a design and/or manufacturing fubar.
Samsung runs hot and cold. This year has been a bad year for Samsung.
Next year isn't any better plus Android OS is tanking. Even if Samsung does manage to pull a Note out of their assets, I'll wait a year to buy it.
See what kind of feedback it's getting and if the Android OS completely turns into a sour green Apple
I punched out and went with a know good workhouse for the next 2-3 years. I just wasn't liking what I saw... and the 10+'s just keep on ticking.

blackhawk said:
What brightness level are you running it at?
Use it in direct sunlight except occasionally for a few seconds?
I keep my N10+ at less than 50% about 99% of the time. I use dark mode and near black wallpaper. Minimum red icons. Mostly because I prefer not burning out my eyes but also OLED preservation. I use manual brightness control only.
At 2 years my heavily used 10+ shows no display degradation even compared to my new one.
See what you, use ScreenTest to make sure you actually have any changes with the display. You really shouldn't. If you been conservative with your brightness and you have degradation it's likely a design and/or manufacturing fubar.
Samsung runs hot and cold. This year has been a bad year for Samsung.
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Using it at 40-50% brightness. The screen looks fine in decent lighting, but in a darker room I can see the shaded areas clearly. When using a light theme or pure black, everything looks great as well. I just find it odd how much more noticeable artifacts are on these screens than on the S20+ and Note 9.

Guyinlaca said:
Using it at 40-50% brightness. The screen looks fine in decent lighting, but in a darker room I can see the shaded areas clearly. When using a light theme or pure black, everything looks great as well. I just find it odd how much more noticeable artifacts are on these screens than on the S20+ and Note 9.
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That's not excessive...
The ScreenTest app will help you see what is degraded. Blue pixels tend to degrade first, red last.

is the original screen protector still on?

raul6 said:
is the original screen protector still on?
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The US models don't come with screen protectors. The glass has held up decently with only 2 tiny hairline scratches that are only visible in sunlight.

Guyinlaca said:
So I've had the Note20 Ultra 512 GB since release last year. Image retention has always been there, but never resulted in burn in so I ignored that. However, now the screen uniformity is getting worse. The area around the fingerprint sensor and a rectangle about half an inch around the edges of the screen are a different darkness level. It's very visible on gray screens and medium colors at any brightness. I also have an S20+ that is not exhibiting any of the issues I see here. I remember having my Note 9 under neon lights and the half inch ring was noticeable, but could not be seen in normal lighting or dark environments. I was hoping to pass this phone to a family member when the S22 Ultra comes out, but I have concerns about screen longevity. Anyone else noticing this?
See this for an example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote20/comments/l0svom
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Wow I have exactly the same issue. Exactly the ring and rectangle above. I thought it was because of some image that created such a high contrast, but since you have the same issue then it's a hardware issue.
And it's only visible on some shades of grey. Not on black, not on white. So strange

since many devices have the same burn-in pattern, do you believe it has something to do with its internal components (rather than the display's pixels)?
Like the charging circuit for example?

This problem is getting much worse and is now visible at all times regardless of brightness. It likely will result in an unusable screen soon. I will try reaching out to Verizon and/or Samsung to get a resolution. This is totally unacceptable for a phone that only been used a little over a year. Here is what it looks like at 50% Brightness, and 10% Brightness. The Note 9 and 10 Plus lasted over 2 years with no such problems.