[Q] About the screen - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I watched a few reviews of the Nexus 5 and in the most part the screen appears a little washed out, with very low contrast.
Is the screen really that bad? I don't expect it to be the best in the market for 350 bucks, but neither do I want to have a device that looks like somebody glued a thin piece of paper on top of the display.

GodSlayer said:
I watched a few reviews of the Nexus 5 and in the most part the screen appears a little washed out, with very low contrast.
Is the screen really that bad? I don't expect it to be the best in the market for 350 bucks, but neither do I want to have a device that looks like somebody glued a thin piece of paper on top of the display.
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Every review I've read has praised the LCD image quality.

GodSlayer said:
I watched a few reviews of the Nexus 5 and in the most part the screen appears a little washed out, with very low contrast.
Is the screen really that bad? I don't expect it to be the best in the market for 350 bucks, but neither do I want to have a device that looks like somebody glued a thin piece of paper on top of the display.
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the display is, for the respect of colour accuracy aso. far better than the nexus4s/ but the led strip are shining through the edges i you're looking from the sides.. not a major problem but it's there - anyway not a bad screen at all

Well.. see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512914

GodSlayer said:
I watched a few reviews of the Nexus 5 and in the most part the screen appears a little washed out, with very low contrast.
Is the screen really that bad? I don't expect it to be the best in the market for 350 bucks, but neither do I want to have a device that looks like somebody glued a thin piece of paper on top of the display.
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Honestly, the screen is pretty bad. It's the thing I hate most about my N5. Like you said, low contrast and fairly washed out colors. The black levels are downright terrible, and it's also got some viewing angle problems. It's passable, but that's about the closest thing to a compliment I can say about it. Unfortunately, the crappy screen belies the overall quality of the phone. It's a great device, LG just cut the wrong corners.

I don't have a problem with the screen. Nothing about it seems worse than my old Rezound.
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I like the display. Coming from a iPhone 5, I don't notice much difference in contrast and temperature.

GodSlayer said:
I watched a few reviews of the Nexus 5 and in the most part the screen appears a little washed out, with very low contrast.
Is the screen really that bad? I don't expect it to be the best in the market for 350 bucks, but neither do I want to have a device that looks like somebody glued a thin piece of paper on top of the display.
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Doesn't seem washed out at all its very clean crisp and clear
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"It’s interesting to hear some Nexus 5 users complain that the display seems undersaturated, since that kind of end user feedback reflects subjective comparison. It also suggests to me that a large percentage of the population doesn’t know what some colors or system elements actually should be. Even for me, looking at the green elements inside the Google Play store on the Note 3 in movie mode or Nexus 5 initially seemed slightly more muted than normal. The reality is that this is what they actually should look like. We’ve just become accustomed to their oversaturated appearance on virtually every other device.
This kind of expectation about what looks right and what doesn’t is rather telling for the state of display calibration in Android handsets, and how OEMs have used oversaturated colors to increase retail shelf appeal. Unfortunately the reality is that oversaturated colors do seem to win taste tests among shoppers, the same way that TVs in most big boxes do. We’ve been looking at them for so long that well calibrated displays like Nexus 5 initially do look noticeably different.
The end result is easy to sum up, however – Nexus 5 has the best calibrated display I’ve seen so far in any Android handset. It’s also leaps and bounds more accurate and controlled than its predecessor display in the Nexus 4." - Anandtech Review
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I think the N5 has one of the best screens I've used on a phone so far. People that say it's dull and washed-out are probably those who prefer the blown out colors of AMOLED screens.

Coming from an sgs2 with amoled screen I love the truer colors and clarity of this screen!
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I got my nexus 5 and was worried about the screen, but no issues. No dead pixels, the screen only slightly washes out when viewed at an angle (meaning only people nitpicky people would be annoyed by it. I personally think the screen is still easy to view, and read from even an extreme angle. But I have seen videos of others with nexus 5's that looked unbearable, so I'm sure the issue exists. Maybe I just got lucky and different screen hardware.
I dont really notice washed out colors in general, but the color temps are definitely different than my iPhone 5, which to me felt a bit too bright/blue compared to my nexus, easier on the eyes.
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This screen isn't washed out. You want washed out, get in a time machine and order a launch Nexus 4.
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Nexus 5 screen is one of top pick on the market for those who said the color or contact washout are getting poisoned by Samsung devices what you see on nexus 5 screen is more natural and real color. If people complain the nexus 5 screen are easy to break I will agree but not the color.
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SamBG said:
"It’s interesting to hear some Nexus 5 users complain that the display seems undersaturated, since that kind of end user feedback reflects subjective comparison. It also suggests to me that a large percentage of the population doesn’t know what some colors or system elements actually should be. Even for me, looking at the green elements inside the Google Play store on the Note 3 in movie mode or Nexus 5 initially seemed slightly more muted than normal. The reality is that this is what they actually should look like. We’ve just become accustomed to their oversaturated appearance on virtually every other device.
This kind of expectation about what looks right and what doesn’t is rather telling for the state of display calibration in Android handsets, and how OEMs have used oversaturated colors to increase retail shelf appeal. Unfortunately the reality is that oversaturated colors do seem to win taste tests among shoppers, the same way that TVs in most big boxes do. We’ve been looking at them for so long that well calibrated displays like Nexus 5 initially do look noticeably different.
The end result is easy to sum up, however – Nexus 5 has the best calibrated display I’ve seen so far in any Android handset. It’s also leaps and bounds more accurate and controlled than its predecessor display in the Nexus 4." - Anandtech Review
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This needs to be stickied and/or posted on every LCD quality thread.

bblzd said:
This needs to be stickied and/or posted on every LCD quality thread.
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Captivate Screen Quality?

A user posted this in the galaxy s forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=727487
he states that in an all whitebackground a slight yellow line can be viewed on the left and a slight purp line is visible on the right edge.
is this anomaly visible on our captivate?
p.s. according to them this line is not part of the pixels and doesn't take up screen space.
I dont see any yellow or purple lines while viewing the white background of this forum.
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Thats good I've had this suspicion that the captivate was cleaned up nicely for the U.S. compared to the Galaxy S. But then we get no front facing cam. lol
I agree. My captivate shows no such lines. The screen quality is amazing. It's better in sun light than regular AMOLED screens, but it could still be better.
LockeCPM4 said:
I agree. My captivate shows no such lines. The screen quality is amazing. It's better in sun light than regular AMOLED screens, but it could still be better.
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I wont lie. In terms of sharpness, it isn't quite up to the iPhone 4's retina display. But this screen is down right beautiful. I showed it to my Fiancee since she's heard the whole drama of $350 vs. $500 and she didn't know I was going to get it today. The first thing she said was "oh my god, that screen is beautiful." She currently has the iPhone 3gs.
This screen is just flat out amazing.
Its a pentile matrix screen like the nexus one. Fuzzy edges on text.
I agree amazingly beautiful screen. AT&T rep let me walk outside with him and he was quite impressed (being the typical Iphone worshipper) he was incredily impressed as am I...12 hours I'll have one
I picked one up the instant that my local AT&T store opened today. The screen is good. I was coming from an older iphone so the screen is a step up, but compared side by side to the iphone 4 its not anywhere near as good. If the iphone 4 is a 10 out of 10 then this phone is probably a 8 out of 10. I would put my old iphone at a 6 out of 10 overall.
My screen has no lines in it or any stuck or dead pixels at all that I can see. So overall build quality is excellent in my book.
It's a subjective thing. I like the screen better than the iPhone4
in the store the screen looks really bright, contrasty and awesome
the only thing is for me if i hold it 8in or less (although who holds their phone that close anyway) from my face i can see the pixels moderately well.
still probably the next best thing from an iphone4 screen
Holding Captivate and Nexus one side by side , screen is definitely better on Captivate, same resolution , but brighter less reflective. A little bit bigger 4" vs 3.7''. I did not compare it to iPhone as i am only interested in Android OS, but it would be nice if resolution was 720p

The contrast ratio is terrible on this phone

Forget the bleeding lcd edges , its the horrible contrast on this phone that will probably cause me to return it.
After coming from the inky black Amoled screen on the Nexus s , this is the most disappointing aspect of otherwise top of the line phone. You can't get a true black on this phone , the best it does is dark glowing gray. In fact anything with a black background looks gray , not total absence of light Black.
I realize that this phone has an LCD screen not an amoled screen , but I never thought the difference would be this pronounced. Example : when I power up my Nexus S the screen is pitch black and when the white Google logo appears , it will appear to floating in space in a dark room. The G2x display will put off it own light, making it very visible in a dark room.
Deep blacks are awesome but I find this screen better in other areas over AMOLED/SAMOLED IMHO. You have to pick what matters to you. I don't spend a ton of time looking at blacks so doesn't bother me
mobilehavoc said:
Deep blacks are awesome but I find this screen better in other areas over AMOLED/SAMOLED IMHO. You have to pick what matters to you. I don't spend a ton of time looking at blacks so doesn't bother me
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Agreed with you sir. The colors on this phone are awesome and I come from a Galaxy S 4G.
Its up to but every G2X I have sold out my store as well as mine the screen looks great. I am loving this phone for everything it has. Way better then my N1.
There's nowhere you can compare contrast of AMOLED because it's unlimited.
However, I think the black on G2x is a bit "darker" than my MT4 (good screen).
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Its up to but every G2X I have sold out my store as well as mine the screen looks great. I am loving this phone for everything it has. Way better then my N1.
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Agree... My moves encoded to WVGA 800x480 @2500k bit rate look great or just as good as my SAMOLED.
The blacks on AMOLED will always be darker than the blacks on LCD that uses backlighting. The blacks on amoled doesn't have light behind it so its gonna be darker, because there isn't a light source lighting up behind it. This comparison doesn't make sense. If you compare the GX2 any other LCD display on a phone it will out shine it hands down.
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I am coming from a Vibrant and find the G2x display easier on the eyes. Yes the blacks looked better on the S-AMOLED but the colors are more natural on the G2x. However what I find to be most important is text look a lot better on the G2x display than the Vibrants Pentile display. I don't have to zoom in anymore to read text on webpages like I did with my Vibrant.
I have a thunderbolt and a nexus s also. The nexus s just sold on eBay. As previously stated you can not compare the blacks on a nexus s with the G2x, two totally different technologies. But compared to the thunderbolt the G2x shines. And the G2x has more clarity and better whites. When compared to the nexus s. G2x has great viewing angles. Over all a great screen, once you get past the back light bleeding.
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I have a thunderbolt and a nexus s also. The nexus s just sold on eBay. As previously stated you can not compare the blacks on a nexus s with the G2x, two totally different technologies. But compared to the thunderbolt the G2x shines. And the G2x has more clarity and better whites. When compared to the nexus s. G2x has great viewing angles. Over all a great screen, once you get past the back light bleeding.
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Agreed completely
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Do you like the One S display?

I just want to know if you satisfied with the One S pentile matrix screen. I have a Sam S2 and recently bought a One S (S3 chipset) and i noticed the lcd is very pixelated (if its a real word, sry for my English) compared with the S2's screen. Its not too bad but noticeable and a bit disappointing. How you live with this?
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I just want to know if you satisfied with the One S pentile matrix screen. I have a Sam S2 and recently bought a One S (S3 chipset) and i noticed the lcd is very pixelated (if its a real word, sry for my English) compared with the S2's screen. Its not too bad but noticeable and a bit disappointing. How you live with this?
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By not being incredibly picky. The phone wasn't cheap, so before I signed a contract, I made sure I was happy with every aspect of the phone. While I do agree it's pixelated, and that my Sensation had slightly better quality, I am incredibly happy with the screen. I'm rarely centimeters away from the screen so I can live with it especially because the color reproduction is amazing.
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I just want to know if you satisfied with the One S pentile matrix screen. I have a Sam S2 and recently bought a One S (S3 chipset) and i noticed the lcd is very pixelated (if its a real word, sry for my English) compared with the S2's screen. Its not too bad but noticeable and a bit disappointing. How you live with this?
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I think you just get used to it after a while. I couldn't stand the screen when I first got the phone, It stopped me using it regularly because I just used to get annoyed at the screen! (sad I know) But now I don't even think about the screen because I'm so used to it. I came from the Desire S which had a S-LCD display and a 480x800 display so that was a very good screen considering it was only 3.7 inches! I found the amoled colours of the one s to be extremely saturated. I didn't like the yellowish/blueish whites and the fact that every time you slightly changed the angle of the screen the colours would turn slightly blue. Text looked pixelated especially on a white background, that doesn't help considering a key part of sense 4 settings is all white background. It took me a good month to get used to the screen and 3 months in, I'm used to it Possibly getting the Nexus 4 soon so doubt I'll have much longer with this phone anyway.
Sorry for the little off topic might pickup a one s didn't want to start a new thread...
I saw the one s at my local fido store and damn its so snappy even whit sense !! But i tried the one x and it was somewhat slower is this normal ? Flicking through homescreens just werent the same..
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I did notice it some when I first got it, but I really don't anymore at all, and like was said above, I'm never close enough to my display to really notice it. I think the screen is incredible, as is every other aspect of the phone. I LOVE my One S.
I thought it would annoy me, but the phone was free so I decided to bite the bullet. I've had the phone 6 months now, and I really don't notice it at this point.
I love the one S display, sure the screen isn't as sharp as the GN, GS 3 and one X etc. and you don't get as much screen real estate but everything else is just as good, if not better:
- one of the best screens in sun light, don't even have to put my screen above 70% brightness in direct sun light in order to be able to make stuff out easily and this is on a darkish background too, MUCH better than the GN and GS 2 in this area
- colour reproduction is superb, my screen is pretty much perfect, whites are super white, brighter white than my dell u2311h, iirc a review site stated that the screen is better calibrated than the GS 3 SAMOLED screen
- no tinting at all on mine, usually with AMOLED screens you get a blue or yellow tint, which is noticeable at angles on whites but not on mine (this varies with every single screen though)
- of course blacks are black and the viewing angles are superb
- high contrast ratio etc. so games and videos look great
I only notice the pentile when looking at white text on black backgrounds and a few icons, but only when I really look for it and have my face pretty close to the screen. I find the one S screen to be sharper overall compared to the GS 2 screen.
I have had the one S beside the GS 2, GN and GS 3 and personally I didn't like the GS 2 screen at all, res. is too low so things are huge (felt like an old man using a phone designed for people with poor eye sight ), colours are far too saturated/warm. The GN screen is nice and sharp but the colours aren't saturated enough, rather dull over all and plus both phones are poor in comparison to the S for view ability in the sunshine. The GS 3 screen is great, better than the GN, however, I think the one S screen looks better for colours.
Anandtech more or less summed up my thoughts:
What’s different, however, is how well HTC has controlled the color temperature and gamma compared to Motorola in the RAZR. As shown in the HCFR galleries below, gamma is pretty close to 2.2 until you get to the high end, and color temperature is pretty close to 6500K, except at the two darkest grey points. This is so much better than any other OEM calibration of an AMOLED panel I’ve taken a look at, which is rather humorous because the panel is undoubtably Samsung’s. HTC is also letting the panel go pretty bright, up past 350 nits, instead of clamping it way down around 200 (I’m looking at you, Galaxy Nexus) to save power. I also haven’t noticed blacks not being totally off on the One S like I have with some others. Of course, colors are still massively oversaturated if your source color space is sRGB.
I’ve griped about PenTile RGBG before on this panel and other SAMOLED displays, but I find the One S to be completely enjoyable in spite of having it thanks to two things. First, how well HTC has controlled the panel (no awful hues, weird white points, or dramatic shifts as you change brightness) - this is basically the best I’ve seen this particular panel, and until SGS3, the best I’ve seen AMOLED in general. Second, because HTC doesn’t appear to be applying any processing that applies sharpening (like Samsung’s mDNIe) to text.
How you feel about PenTile really is the final factor: it’s there, but I’ve slowly become accustomed to it after staring at it for so long. If you go back to the Nexus S days, I was one of the most outspoken critics because of how large those subpixels were. With small enough subpixels (below visual acuity), PenTile starts to make sense. In other news, HTC moving back to Samsung AMOLED for phones is an interesting move after supply issues forced HTC to SLCD with some earlier phones, here on the HTC One S however, it looks great.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
My solution: Get old. You probably can't see all the minute issues you guys think matter, and you don't really care if you do. Every phone I've ever had has had a better screen than the previous and I think that's pretty nice.
I hate the screen, drives me nuts. I found that using a theme that mostly uses blacks and whites makes it more bearable though.
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I hate the screen, drives me nuts. I found that using a theme that mostly uses blacks and whites makes it more bearable though.
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Have to agree. Thing is apart from the screen it's a fantastic phone. It's so fast, battery life is great and the camera is great. I don't even think the screen would be that bad if it wasn't pentile it's just the fact that it's a pentile display it makes the phone look way more pixelated than it should be
I think I need to go to specsavers, I've never noticed a problem with the screen.
The screen on this is amazing. Don't notice any pixellation whilst on it . It's quite an improvement over my old Wildfires QVGA 3.5 inch 240x320 TFT display.
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If you switched from Wildfire you cant see this but if you had any phone in the alike pixel density and resolution you can see the difference. According to others opinion its not bad, the perfect color saturation, contrast etc will eliminate the bad feeling about those subpixels.
HTC does calibrate their screens nicely
I suppose it depends on what you're used to. When you come from an iPhone or high-end LCD-screen you probably will get annoyed with this display. However, when this is your first touchscreen smartphone or when you had a smartphone with a low-end display before this one, you will probably be able to cope with the slight pixilation.
Personally, even with this being my first touchscreen smartphone and coming from an E72 with a PPI of about 170, the display of this device would be the only reason for me to buy a One X or Nexus 4. That being said; you don't buy a smartphone solely for its display, you buy it for the complete package (price, battery, design, display, size, cpu/gpu, storage, support, OS, cloud integration etc.). And for me, the package the One S offers is more compelling than that of most other smartphones one the market.
I compared the One S screen to that of my Galaxy Nexus and honestly, when it comes to clarity, there isn't much of a difference. If you are in your twenties with near perfect eyesight and able to hold the phone less than a foot from your face then you will probably see pixelation but at normal distances it isn't an issue. For me it seems that anything above 250ppi is fine - my original Galaxy S was less (I think 233ppi) and that display was pixelated to me, but then again it was an earlier generation screen, I'm sure there have been other refinements besides resolution since then.
One S 256 PPI
Sam Galaxy S2 217 PPI but looks sharper.
Its all about the pixel placement, pentile matrix is a pattern. This matrix gives us better colors because more subpixels. Google for it there are many info i cant explain it in english
I come from an LG Optimus 2x, 4'' ips display, 800x480, and I feel this display better IMHO.
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One S 256 PPI
Sam Galaxy S2 217 PPI but looks sharper.
Its all about the pixel placement, pentile matrix is a pattern. This matrix gives us better colors because more subpixels. Google for it there are many info i cant explain it in english
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I said Galaxy S, not S2.
Yes the S2 was/is superior despite the lower resolution thanks to the RGB arrangement (not pentile). The original Galaxy S was pentile, and not that great by today's standards.
It's okay, but I'm actually kind of unsatisfied with the blacks. I thought it would be completely black, but when I have a black picture shown on the phone in a completely dark room, the screen still lights up
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Had to return the S4 Active

Since I was an original proponent of the S4 Active's camera, I wanted to publicly admit that I was wrong. The camera on the S4 Active is, indeed, a deal breaker (at least for me).
It's not that it dropped from 13mp to 8mp...that, in and of itself, has no bearing on the performance, but the images produced by this camera are muddy and not pleasing at all. It is miles behind the original S4 or HTC One in the image department.
I went back to the original S4 which is fine, but I really miss the screen of the Active. It's just a choice each individual will have to decide for themselves, but I just can't understand why Samsung downgraded the camera so dramatically on the Active. It's a shame because, to me, everything else about the Active is awesome, most notably, the screen.
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Since I was an original proponent of the S4 Active's camera, I wanted to publicly admit that I was wrong. The camera on the S4 Active is, indeed, a deal breaker (at least for me).
It's not that it dropped from 13mp to 8mp...that, in and of itself, has no bearing on the performance, but the images produced by this camera are muddy and not pleasing at all. It is miles behind the original S4 or HTC One in the image department.
I went back to the original S4 which is fine, but I really miss the screen of the Active. It's just a choice each individual will have to decide for themselves, but I just can't understand why Samsung downgraded the camera so dramatically on the Active. It's a shame because, to me, everything else about the Active is awesome, most notably, the screen.
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Sad to see you go but IMO Screen > Camera
I think the camera will be fixed with an update or mods, screen you are stuck with forever. I know the camera on this thing can be better, just wait for them to get the bugs worked out. Enjoy the S4, it DOES have a great camera
My disclaimer is I rarely take photos with my phone. My wife does a good job snapping great photos I just use it to capture something funny or cool when I am not around family.
I liked the screen too but a lot of original gs4 features were calling me (including customization of the physical phone with cases and replacement parts and internal software)
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Camera seems great for me, a bit better than my Note 2. IMO a waterproof phone, better looking, better display, and more rugged is better than a slightly better camera on the regular S4.
I noticed a green tent sometimes. It must be a software issue.
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Camera seems great for me, a bit better than my Note 2. IMO a waterproof phone, better looking, better display, and more rugged is better than a slightly better camera on the regular S4.
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That is certainly a fair comment. For me though, the camera was just too weak...but holy crap the Active screen is exponentially better than the SAMOLED S4 screen...not even close.
mattpayne92 said:
I liked the screen too but a lot of original gs4 features were calling me (including customization of the physical phone with cases and replacement parts and internal software)
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Cases will not show up if people don't let the companies know that they are wanted
cardinalryan said:
Since I was an original proponent of the S4 Active's camera, I wanted to publicly admit that I was wrong. The camera on the S4 Active is, indeed, a deal breaker (at least for me).
It's not that it dropped from 13mp to 8mp...that, in and of itself, has no bearing on the performance, but the images produced by this camera are muddy and not pleasing at all. It is miles behind the original S4 or HTC One in the image department.
I went back to the original S4 which is fine, but I really miss the screen of the Active. It's just a choice each individual will have to decide for themselves, but I just can't understand why Samsung downgraded the camera so dramatically on the Active. It's a shame because, to me, everything else about the Active is awesome, most notably, the screen.
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Just wait to get the OBEX or Lifeproof case for your S4...as I will do...when I had both (The the S4A for a week before returning) I thought the screens were comparable with an edge to the S4.
planoman said:
Just wait to get the OBEX or Lifeproof case for your S4...as I will do...when I had both (The the S4A for a week before returning) I thought the screens were comparable with an edge to the S4.
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Depends on the person
Some people like their screens over saturated with deep blacks, some people like their screens natural with normal whites.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
Depends on the person
Some people like their screens over saturated with deep blacks, some people like their screens natural with normal whites.
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So true. I personally was sold on the S4A screen over the S4 screen when I was compairing them side by side, and it was ultimatly the reason I went with the S4A over the S4.
Kyuta Syuko said:
So true. I personally was sold on the S4A screen over the S4 screen when I was compairing them side by side, and it was ultimatly the reason I went with the S4A over the S4.
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the s4 active has a more 'natural' screen but its tft and the color reproduction is horrible. At least in movie mode the regular S4 can seem much more accurate and not bland
To each their own. I purchased the Active because I get wet and my Note 2 was on borrowed time. The better camera and screen on the active are a bonus.
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I feel like most of the people prefer the actives screen. I compared both side by side and I actually prefer the bolder colors. Its all personal opinion
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Yeah I love the active screen but hate the angles and just hate tft. The active is better from the start but the amoled on the normal s4 has more potential. A wide color gamut. Movie mode Is almost perfect. And this is coming from professional display reviewers. And if we get perseus kernel onto the 9505 variant it'll be even better.
But to be honest I have it on auto screen mode for some reason I love the colors too
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Yeah I love the active screen but hate the angles and just hate tft. The active is better from the start but the amoled on the normal s4 has more potential. A wide color gamut. Movie mode Is almost perfect. And this is coming from professional display reviewers. And if we get perseus kernel onto the 9505 variant it'll be even better.
But to be honest I have it on auto screen mode for some reason I love the colors too
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I agree the SAMOLED screen has more potential and if the S4 ever got a mod like Voodoo Color the user could probably get the screen looking just as good or maybe even better than the S4A screen.
TwoStroker37 said:
To each their own. I purchased the Active because I get wet and my Note 2 was on borrowed time. The better camera and screen on the active are a bonus.
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In no way does the Active have a better camera than the original S4. I would venture to say that the camera on the Active is among the worst on a high end smartphone. It is plumb terrible.
cardinalryan said:
In no way does the Active have a better camera than the original S4. I would venture to say that the camera on the Active is among the worst on a high end smartphone. It is plumb terrible.
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Mine has taken great photos and mine has taken horrible photos.
The truth is they do need to update the camera to fix the bugs... after that I think it will be great... Of course not as good as the S4 but close
cardinalryan said:
Since I was an original proponent of the S4 Active's camera, I wanted to publicly admit that I was wrong. The camera on the S4 Active is, indeed, a deal breaker (at least for me).
It's not that it dropped from 13mp to 8mp...that, in and of itself, has no bearing on the performance, but the images produced by this camera are muddy and not pleasing at all. It is miles behind the original S4 or HTC One in the image department.
I went back to the original S4 which is fine, but I really miss the screen of the Active. It's just a choice each individual will have to decide for themselves, but I just can't understand why Samsung downgraded the camera so dramatically on the Active. It's a shame because, to me, everything else about the Active is awesome, most notably, the screen.
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I used the S4 Active in store and the display seems to be a lot more accurate than the S4 (since it uses the TFT display). How was it's outdoor visibility?
Southernboyj said:
I used the S4 Active in store and the display seems to be a lot more accurate than the S4 (since it uses the TFT display). How was it's outdoor visibility?
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The display isn't more accurate its just not exaggerated colors. But you can fix that in the regular s4
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jetlitheone said:
Yeah I love the active screen but hate the angles and just hate tft. The active is better from the start but the amoled on the normal s4 has more potential. A wide color gamut. Movie mode Is almost perfect. And this is coming from professional display reviewers. And if we get perseus kernel onto the 9505 variant it'll be even better.
But to be honest I have it on auto screen mode for some reason I love the colors too
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its about 97% accurate to sRGB (which is industry standard) in Movie mode, versus 91% on iPhone 5, 83% on S4 Active, and 85% on HTC One. The AMOLED screen actually has a wider gamut than sRGB but it is not calibrated correctly. At its most vivid, it is capable of about 102% sRGB gamut, though it does suffer from some slight gamma issues as well due to AMOLED being totally off when displaying 'true' blacks.
I tested them all with a friend and his colorimetry gear with some standard calibration images, with Pantone, sRGB, and Rec709 standard materials as well as gray plates and focusing scales (attached). Feel free to compare to your HDTV/monitor of choice.
However, a 3% variation is negligible at best; most males (60-something percent) are partially colorblind anyways and really cant see the difference until its about 18% off. Women its closer to 1% have color issues, and with females comprising the majority of the population and about 1/3 of the S4 buyers, that means that roughly 75% of you could not tell the difference between a perfectly calibrates S4 and one that is 3%, 5%, or even 10% off.
That said, i have some 10 bit Marshall, JVC, and Sony calibrated field monitors that are closer to 78% sRGB, and i used them every day for work (we use scopes to verify anyways; cant trust your eyes), and even a VERY VERY nice, VERY expensive calibrated 10 bit IPS LED LCD field monitor that costs as much as some new cars that is only 94% accurate.
I rely on my eyes at work every day; i have incredibly sharp and perceptive vision, and i can comfortably say that 'Movie' mode is BETTER than most other screens you would watch movies/tv on, yes including your $1,000 HDTV or $300 PC monitor. I can easily see the pixels on the smaller, 720P GS3 screen, and make them out decently on the S4 as well, even 18" away from my face. The HTC one as well, but its closer to 14" away maximum. That is incredible for me.
TFT has bad viewing angles, very bad backlight passthrough transmission, and is based on old tech. IPS LED would have been a MUCH better choice, but Samsung doesnt do much in that field; TFT they have the tech and fab for. It was a poor choice IMO.
The HTC One screen or iPhone 5 screen is way better than that of the Active for viewing angles, and also much more saturated (One is oversaturated, iPhone 5 only slightly). But for contrast and viewing angles alone, Samsung SHOULD have gone IPS.
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Brightness, viewing angles, saturation, gamut, and contrast are quantifiable. These are what i base my statements on; what ive measured and what ive seen.
PERCEIVED color is not; thats your brain, mostly. Your eyes only collect raw data. I could show you correctly calibrated images under different lighting and you would swear the peoples faces were purple, green, etc, when in fact they are absolutely correct, and its your brain compensating.
As far as the S4A camera, i had read Samsung had a problem with supply on the 13MP units, and opted for the same part as the S III camera as it was available, and part numbers stack up (pinouts do not). The software camera app on the S4A may not be up to snuff in that case; the S III takes great shots for a camera phone; and if you look at S III, S4A, and S4 shots side by side with the same settings of the same objects under same lighting and other conditions, the S4A and S III are pretty damn close to identical if you check out scopes or histograms; the S4 with the 13MP camera has a slight edge.
I cant see the Perseus kernel doing much better; most of the issue with the S4 screen is gamma shift based off the PenTile display architecture; yes the S4 screen is RGBG, which is an RGB variant, but in practice calibrating it is WILDLY different from an RGB screen. If anyone gets a chance, take a look at the exact same picture (both the one i attached and also one of people) on a Motorola Atrix 4G with the RGBW (red green blue white) pixel layout; the Atrix has THE WORST COLORS I HAVE EVER SEEN, period. BUT, you could see that thing perfectly in the glare of the sun at any angle.

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The display of the Google Pixel 2 (regular size) is noticeably less bright and the colors are significantly less vibrant than the original Pixel. Tech review sites and even xda haven't seemed to make much mention of this. I know it's not just me, but I assumed it had to have been in my head since no one else was talking about it all these months. I compared my Pixel 2 side by side with a Pixel 1 and was very jealous of the Pixel 1's display.
Even when I first saw this phone on display in the store, I thought the screen looked muted with washed out colors. Yes, I know the saturated color profile makes a huge difference, but it really just makes the colors wildly inaccurate, not just more saturated as one would hope. It makes reds look more pink, not more vibrant and oranges turn neon.
I finally stumbled across this section in xda with just 3 posts about the display quality and can't believe this didn't draw as much attention as the 2XL did for having similar issues.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/review/color-saturation-accuracy-t3685595
What gives? If both screens are provided by Samsung, why are they so different? How did so many people overlook this and are we to expect more of the same for the Pixel 3?
PuffDaddy_d said:
The display of the Google Pixel 2 (regular size) is noticeably less bright and the colors are significantly less vibrant than the original Pixel. Tech review sites and even xda haven't seemed to make much mention of this. I know it's not just me, but I assumed it had to have been in my head since no one else was talking about it all these months. I compared my Pixel 2 side by side with a Pixel 1 and was very jealous of the Pixel 1's display.
Even when I first saw this phone on display in the store, I thought the screen looked muted with washed out colors. Yes, I know the saturated color profile makes a huge difference, but it really just makes the colors wildly inaccurate, not just more saturated as one would hope. It makes reds look more pink, not more vibrant and oranges turn neon.
I finally stumbled across this section in xda with just 3 posts about the display quality and can't believe this didn't draw as much attention as the 2XL did for having similar issues.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/review/color-saturation-accuracy-t3685595
What gives? If both screens are provided by Samsung, why are they so different? How did so many people overlook this and are we to expect more of the same for the Pixel 3?
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Maybe not all units have washed out colors? My device seems fine and colors are good. I didn't change the default color settings, but also I don't have the original Pixel to compare
Charkatak said:
Maybe not all units have washed out colors? My device seems fine and colors are good. I didn't change the default color settings, but also I don't have the original Pixel to compare
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I don't mean to say the screen is terrible or unusable, but for an OLED screen, it's hard to be impressed when the old pixel and even some LCD screens are more vibrant. I'm just hoping Google doesn't use the same display for the pixel 3.
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I don't mean to say the screen is terrible or unusable, but for an OLED screen, it's hard to be impressed when the old pixel and even some LCD screens are more vibrant. I'm just hoping Google doesn't use the same display for the pixel 3.
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It's very well rated and tested, check gsmarena.
I like it a lot personally.

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