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Well I figure my first post should be a big moan on the subject of eBay.
I'm currently -£750 waiting on refunds for 2 Galaxy s4 phones that I tried to buy on eBay... the first auction had a slightly dodgy feel but I figured it was worth the risk for the potential of a good deal, turns out I should have trusted my initial gut instinct, about 10 minutes after I paid for it I got a message from eBay saying the listing had been removed as the seller was a compromised account, and that I no longer have to pay for the item. Annoyingly I still have to wait till next week before I can escalate it and get my refund.
Second one seemed a legit deal, seemed like an unwanted upgrade ( I know there is a degree of risk there too but, my last phone was one and I've had no issues), legit photos... item arrived on Monday all seemed in working order, spent all day Tuesday researching which mod to go with, re-learning the whole rooting/firmware/recovery upgrade processes, loading my apps, configuring them all etc , Micro-sim arrived Wednesday, but for whatever reason wouldn't register on the mobile network so I went to the carrier's shop.... I'm sure you all know where this is going, the phone's IMEI is on the blacklist, so I've had to spend the last few hours convincing the seller to refund me, of course I now have to send it back at my own expense and it probably won't arrive till Monday at which point I have to trust he'll refund me in a timely fashion, or I'll have to escalate again..... argh, what a head ache!
I must confess before all this I didn't know about all these possible pitfalls, I wish eBay had some more upfront guidance on risks of the phones being sold being blacklisted, I didn't even know such a list existed, ah well live and learn I guess.
For the limited time I had the phone I was loving it for it's none call related features, I'll just have to buy my next one from a legit source and hope for 3rd time lucky!
Anyhow, hi, hopefully my future posts will be more positive.
Feel sorry for you there buddy... I got mine too from a reseller, but we met upfront. Its been 10 weeks now and my s4 is still kicking. Its really a lot better if you're getting an expensive piece of hardware from a legit source...
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Well I figure my first post should be a big moan on the subject of eBay.
I'm currently -£750 waiting on refunds for 2 Galaxy s4 phones that I tried to buy on eBay... the first auction had a slightly dodgy feel but I figured it was worth the risk for the potential of a good deal, turns out I should have trusted my initial gut instinct, about 10 minutes after I paid for it I got a message from eBay saying the listing had been removed as the seller was a compromised account, and that I no longer have to pay for the item. Annoyingly I still have to wait till next week before I can escalate it and get my refund.
Second one seemed a legit deal, seemed like an unwanted upgrade ( I know there is a degree of risk there too but, my last phone was one and I've had no issues), legit photos... item arrived on Monday all seemed in working order, spent all day Tuesday researching which mod to go with, re-learning the whole rooting/firmware/recovery upgrade processes, loading my apps, configuring them all etc , Micro-sim arrived Wednesday, but for whatever reason wouldn't register on the mobile network so I went to the carrier's shop.... I'm sure you all know where this is going, the phone's IMEI is on the blacklist, so I've had to spend the last few hours convincing the seller to refund me, of course I now have to send it back at my own expense and it probably won't arrive till Monday at which point I have to trust he'll refund me in a timely fashion, or I'll have to escalate again..... argh, what a head ache!
I must confess before all this I didn't know about all these possible pitfalls, I wish eBay had some more upfront guidance on risks of the phones being sold being blacklisted, I didn't even know such a list existed, ah well live and learn I guess.
For the limited time I had the phone I was loving it for it's none call related features, I'll just have to buy my next one from a legit source and hope for 3rd time lucky!
Anyhow, hi, hopefully my future posts will be more positive.
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I reccomend this seller, i ve bought 2 S3's from him, all perfect, sealed box and great shipping speed:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181145259142?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Just to top off my day my brother came round and stole my last beer when I was out for a run, fml!
Thanks for the sympathy and recommendation though guys.
Just wondered what you paid for the phones.if you don't mind. How much did you think you were saving over buying from a shop?
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Bradden1 said:
Just wondered what you paid for the phones.if you don't mind. How much did you think you were saving over buying from a shop?
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The first one was £370, and was apparently a 32gb model, that should have been my first warning signal as I've since learned the 32gb model isn't for sale in the UK yet.
The second went for £380 and included a 32gb memory card, so I felt like I was getting a 70-80ish quid saving?
I feel for you! Ebay can be a great bargain grabbing experience but there are some sharks lurking about. Hope you get both your refunds and put it down to experience..... I love technology but wouldn't risk not having a backed warranty on an item as expensive as an S4.
gob said:
I feel for you! Ebay can be a great bargain grabbing experience but there are some sharks lurking about. Hope you get both your refunds and put it down to experience..... I love technology but wouldn't risk not having a backed warranty on an item as expensive as an S4.
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Yea I've found a seller who is selling for £410 and providing a valid receipt, I think that's a safe price point to purchase at.
I bought my S4 on ebay last week for £400 incl and it was supposed to be in a sealed box, fully unlocked and an unwanted upgrade.
It was still sealed, but was locked to O2 and the seller insisted that O2 had promised him it would unlock in 3-5 days.
I said I couldn't wait, unlocked it myself & asked for a £25 refund as this was what a shop would charge to unlock it for me!! He gave it to me. :victory:
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I bought my S4 on ebay last week for £400 incl and it was supposed to be in a sealed box, fully unlocked and an unwanted upgrade.
It was still sealed, but was locked to O2 and the seller insisted that O2 had promised him it would unlock in 3-5 days.
I said I couldn't wait, unlocked it myself & asked for a £25 refund as this was what a shop would charge to unlock it for me!! He gave it to me. :victory:
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Nice one.
I got my S4 from eBay too. For £370.it was on o2 as well. Got an unlock code from a website for £15 that's permanently unlocked it.
I've been very happy. And lucky in my eBay experiences.
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Up until this happened I'd had 200+ transactions without 1 issue, then 2 back to back....
My S1 was off eBay, was a bargain and has never caused me one issue.
I am however a bit wary of unwanted upgrades after learning they could be blacklisted if they end their contract prematurely, if that happens a year later I doubt there's anything you could do about it.
I was actually worried about buying a FAKE S4, i.e. something else masquerading as an S4.
Do these exist, or is it just me being paranoid?
hotlips69 said:
I was actually worried about buying a FAKE S4, i.e. something else masquerading as an S4.
Do these exist, or is it just me being paranoid?
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They exist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpU4CqyNvrs
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They exist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpU4CqyNvrs
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Having watching this clip, I was worried for a few seconds until I read the comments!
Mine has all the comments about being fake...no logo, yellow camera....instead the "fake" is the international version! :laugh:
You just have to see if the savings you are getting are more than the risk involved
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I have wondered about Amazon market sales, whether it is more reliable/secure a method of obtaining a good deal, I wonder does anyone on here have any experience of it?
tonyr80 said:
I have wondered about Amazon market sales, whether it is more reliable/secure a method of obtaining a good deal, I wonder does anyone on here have any experience of it?
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Generally Amazon is more trustworthy than eBay, especially if it says 'fulfilled by amazon' or it's sold by official stores (AnkerOfficial and stuff like that) - you can tell if they have a very high rating and their descriptions are written fluently (you should be able to tell between the chinese/whatever sellers and official stores).
BUT, there are many fakes on Amazon too.
Feel sorry for you buddy. I got mine from a website called Kogan. It costed me 689 AU dollars including shipping fee. It is quite cheap and it arrived a week after i paid. More importantly, it is not second handed or reselling product.
i too purchased an s3 that was an unwanted phone, i had a gut feeling it was dodgy but thought ebay would protect me if it was dodgy
how wrong was i
phone never sent, money gone
all ebay could do was email them as i payed by bank deposit. even police online fraud cant force them to pay back the money and a bank tranfser reversal doesnt work if they deny it
2 months on still trying for refund while there still buying stuff
ended up buying an S4 I9505 off kogan for $620 inc 32gm micro sd and freight couldnt justify paying $460 for an S3 when the S4 was going for that price
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i too purchased an s3 that was an unwanted phone, i had a gut feeling it was dodgy but thought ebay would protect me if it was dodgy
how wrong was i
phone never sent, money gone
all ebay could do was email them as i payed by bank deposit. even police online fraud cant force them to pay back the money and a bank tranfser reversal doesnt work if they deny it
2 months on still trying for refund while there still buying stuff
ended up buying an S4 I9505 off kogan for $620 inc 32gm micro sd and freight couldnt justify paying $460 for an S3 when the S4 was going for that price
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Yea, PayPal payment protection is a must on eBay, I'd never trust a transaction without it really.
As it is I gave eBay another go as I spotted a deal that looked legit and unlikely to be a bad phone, got myself a new i19505, sealed box and with a receipt, £360. Pretty happy with that! Also got my money back from the 2 other bad deals, yay.
I created this thread because for some reason I can't post in the thread about xiaomi buyers, I can't even comment and I don't know why.
Anyways, I wanted to ask if anyone has had any experience with giztop.com and if so, a few questions.
1) did you have to pay customs?
2)was the phone in perfect conditions?
3)how long did the shipping take and how long did it take to get a tracking number?
Everyone is invited to post their experiences with different websites buying the xiaomi mi4c and also by answering those 3 questions if you can.
I ordered a Mi4C from geekbuying.com. It's a "big" and reliable website/store with many customers. Also their customer service support is fast and helpful, for example they included a gift in my order. I still haven't received my item because I chose the "slow" flat-rate shipping which can take ~15 days, but I'm not in a hurry.
I received a correct tracking number almost immediately after I placed my order. I'll report back with more answers to your questions
@Flaxe. How much did it cost you? Don't hesitate to come back when you get your product
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@Flaxe. How much did it cost you? Don't hesitate to come back when you get your product
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It cost me USD 277.35. And I just noticed that it arrived in my country at 31 October, so it only took like 2 days to get here. Now the slow swedish post just have to hurry up!
I used Geekbuying too, to ship to the UK, shipping was free even though it was apparently 'expedited'. TNT was on the list as a 0 cost option and a 3-5 day shipping time. Mine was ordered on the 24th, shipped on the 26th, and in my hand on the 29th. Really hassle free. Phone was in perfect condition, and bloat seemed minimal if anything at all. Bloat is a bit of a moot point though as sMIUI went onto it straight away.
Do you guys think it'd be just as smooth to the U.S? Did you guys use EU warehouse? @Flaxe @Salieri_UK
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Do you guys think it'd be just as smooth to the U.S? Did you guys use EU warehouse? @Flaxe @Salieri_UK
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I have no idea how it will be to the US, but I guess it will go pretty smooth. Mine was shipped from Singapore, they didn't have it in a EU warehouse when I ordered.
There is a thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/to-buy-outside-china-t3208959
I bought from ibuygou and asked them to check if there were any faults with the device, they said they will check. I got the device and it came with EU rom so no bloatware and they gave 2 free screen protectors. Got dhl tracking same day. They offer duty insurance, so if you get charged, they will refund you. Also very repsponsive with emails. I'd use them again
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It cost me USD 277.35. And I just noticed that it arrived in my country at 31 October, so it only took like 2 days to get here. Now the slow swedish post just have to hurry up!
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Did you have to pay any duty?
@ermacwins. Did you pay any customs duty or tax? And the screen protectors, were they packaged separately?
Erladion said:
Did you have to pay any duty?
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I haven't heard anything about it yet. Though, when reading at the swedish import "laws", there's 0% duty for importing phones, but we still have to pay 25% tax.
When I track the item on the swedish post website, it now says the item is being sorted at the terminal and I should have it delivered to me tomorrow. So then I will know for sure if I have to pay anything extra.
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@ermacwins. Did you pay any customs duty or tax? And the screen protectors, were they packaged separately?
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No because I paid for the duty insurance which is 5% of total. They still marked the item $20 but I didn't want to risk it. Yes packaged separately but I'm not sure if they give it to every customer.
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No because I paid for the duty insurance which is 5% of total. They still marked the item $20 but I didn't want to risk it. Yes packaged separately but I'm not sure if they give it to every customer.
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To clarify, do you live in the U.S or the EU?
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To clarify, do you live in the U.S or the EU?
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EU
Are the screen protectors original products or Xiaomi? Also, would you consider 7.8 mm thick or thin for a phone? That's the thickness of the Xiaomi mi4c @ermacwins
@ermacwins
Well it doesn't have a xiaomi logo on it but does have the mi logo
Yeah, its supposed to have the mi logo
https://www.fastcardtech.com/flow.php?step=cart... 249.$ with shipping 32Gb/3Gb .. Has anyone any experience with this site?
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https://www.fastcardtech.com/flow.php?step=cart... 249.$ with shipping 32Gb/3Gb .. Has anyone any experience with this site?
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A german website for China phones and Shops says fastcardtech.com isn't very reliable. This site has over 400 customer ratings in different forums and portals, rated 2/10 Stars. Bad support and such things.
Source: Chinahandys.net
http://www.chinahandys.net/onlineshops-im-vergleich/fastcardtech-erfahrungen-bewertungen/
I'm an owner of a Xiaomi Mi 4C and I have a problem with my display (got some nasty spots from heating probably) and I send an email to Xiaomi EU email adress asking them where from I can buy an original display for it. After more than a month with no answer from them, I forwarded the email to another Xiaomi support email adress and finally I have the answer here... This is the reason why this phone will be my last phone ever bought from a chinese manufacturer...
Xiaomi support answer https://imgur.com/qPawNdX
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i think it is pretty obvious that when you buy a phone from a reseller, and from outside your country, and also being that country China, it is obvious that you totally risk the warranty for getting a cheaper phone....
Also, if you didn't know, Xiaomi don't sell Mi4C outside of china, so for them you are not a client
Yup - when buying Chinese electronics outside of the supported market, there are risks. Those risks are greatly offset by the price.
If you still need a display, GearBest has been advertising OEM replacement assemblies for about 35- 40 bucks.
Please...
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...67.html?spm=2114.13010208.99999999.510.cXjPom
akrai said:
i think it is pretty obvious that when you buy a phone from a reseller, and from outside your country, and also being that country China, it is obvious that you totally risk the warranty for getting a cheaper phone....
Also, if you didn't know, Xiaomi don't sell Mi4C outside of china, so for them you are not a client
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Calebz said:
Yup - when buying Chinese electronics outside of the supported market, there are risks. Those risks are greatly offset by the price.
If you still need a display, GearBest has been advertising OEM replacement assemblies for about 35- 40 bucks.
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Boys and gurls,
I`m aware of everything you said up and I agree with that. But my main problem is that I just asked them to point me an ONLINE original spare parts seller so I can buy one ORIGINAL display. Thats all i asked from them. So noone from online stores are selling originals by their concept.
chasemyass said:
Boys and gurls,
I`m aware of everything you said up and I agree with that. But my main problem is that I just asked them to point me an ONLINE original spare parts seller so I can buy one ORIGINAL display. Thats all i asked from them. So noone from online stores are selling originals by their concept.
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obviously xiaomi wont tell you to buy to a reseller, the same way samsung wont tell you to buy a replacement of battery or screen in aliexpress...
they don't sell officially spare parts, so the answer will be no or will be take the phone to our official SAT
Hi all!
I have slapped a Nillkin style cover (available on Amazon.in) on my Moto Z. But the case, though quite slim, doesn't protect the device quite adequately - that's the way I feel about it. I know I can go directly to Otterbox portal and order that there - but I am too reluctant to pay a hefty postage fee! Can anyone please recommend a good case for protection, which is available on either Flipkart or Snapdeal or Amazon (dot in) or for that matter on any Indian online market?
By the way, how is Nillkin as a brand? Are they a reputed one?
Thanks in advance.
SogaBan said:
Hi all!
By the way, how is Nillkin as a brand? Are they a reputed one?
Thanks in advance.
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They make good products.
BUT I've a question for you too... if I need could you sell/send me in Italy by ebay/Paypal an Indian version Moto Z in White flavour (and 64 GB & dual SIM ) ???
enetec said:
if I need could you sell/send me in Italy by ebay/Paypal an Indian version Moto Z in White flavour (and 64 GB & dual SIM ) ???
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Theoretically, yes I can.
But practically I would NOT recommend doing that. The reason being two fold:
I remember seeing "only for sale in India" somewhere in the box - I may be wrong - and unfortunately I can't verify that now since I dumped the package in the garbage. If I am true, then I am unsure whether that will pose any unnecessary inconvenience in the customs checking.
Secondly, the cost of the package and/or postage will be around 3800 INR (if not more than that). So, that effectively makes the entire cost somewhere around 44000 INR (approx). Add the overseas transaction charge on paypal to that.
Under these circumstances, I'd have bought the device locally, if I were you.
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Theoretically, yes I can.
But practically I would NOT recommend doing that. The reason being two fold:
I remember seeing "only for sale in India" somewhere in the box - I may be wrong - and unfortunately I can't verify that now since I dumped the package in the garbage. If I am true, then I am unsure whether that will pose any unnecessary inconvenience in the customs checking.
Secondly, the cost of the package and/or postage will be around 3800 INR (if not more than that). So, that effectively makes the entire cost somewhere around 44000 INR (approx). Add the overseas transaction charge on paypal to that.
Under these circumstances, I'd have bought the device locally, if I were you.
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I would have done this way IF @Moto they had decided to sell a reasonable version in Europe! It's not a matter of price, problem is that here they sell only 32GB single SIM versions which are NOT what I need..!
They *know* that are using absurd selling politics and in fact they have forbidden all on line retailers to sell abroad. In all the world. BUT this doesn't apply on private2private sellings, so no problem for "India only" labels...
I'll travel to Malaysia in some days and I'll see what would be available there. After that I'll decide what to do...
If in the meantime prices will not drop a bit, would you eventually interested in a, let's say... 45.000 INR selling?
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I would have done this way IF @Moto they had decided to sell a reasonable version in Europe! It's not a matter of price, problem is that here they sell only 32GB single SIM versions which are NOT what I need..!
They *know* that are using absurd selling politics and in fact they have forbidden all on line retailers to sell abroad. In all the world. BUT this doesn't apply on private2private sellings, so no problem for "India only" labels...
I'll travel to Malaysia in some days and I'll see what would be available there. After that I'll decide what to do...
If in the meantime prices will not drop a bit, would you eventually interested in a, let's say... 45.000 INR selling?
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I understand the situation. Let's discuss regarding this though PM (have already dropped you a message) - I intend to keep this thread clean and on the topic.
A shameless bump.
Just wondering - why don't we get the Otterbox or Spigen TPU cases already in India?
Hi
I am looking to purchase the new Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra China Version and have it shipped to Canada.
Could someone suggest a reputable company to buy from?
Looking for the 16GB RAM 512GB version.
Thanks!
liaow(.)com/
The site doesnt seem like much, but I bought my Oppo Reno 10x from them last year. Shipping was very fast, took only a few days to get to Ireland.
I've read good things about tradingshenzhen. I haven't used it yet but will probably buy from there.
i've bought 6 phones from Liaow excellent experience each time 4-5 days shipping to the states. i was gonna buy the mi 10 ultra, but found a find x2 pro for a excellent price. I may still grab one though!!
Try Wanda Mobile, ive used them in the past and all good to UK
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i've bought 6 phones from Liaow excellent experience each time 4-5 days shipping to the states. i was gonna buy the mi 10 ultra, but found a find x2 pro for a excellent price. I may still grab one though!!
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I have ordered this phone to the UK thanks to this post. I have bought from China before and expect no hassle especially being in the UK (and hope any USA buyers have no problems!) but thanks for this post as it helped me made my mind up. Plus they take Paypal, and I have paid via credit, so if anything goes wrong they can get invovled
Edit: so today I had an nice email from Liaow. Just checking I know if the phone will work in my country, warning me about customs tax if they open it, just everything really. Made me very confident, they have some shipping delays due to Corona but we're still looking at one week in total. I was very reassured, the guy had perfect English and checked on things most suppliers just would not bother with.
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I have ordered this phone to the UK thanks to this post. I have bought from China before and expect no hassle especially being in the UK (and hope any USA buyers have no problems!) but thanks for this post as it helped me made my mind up. Plus they take Paypal, and I have paid via credit, so if anything goes wrong they can get invovled
Edit: so today I had an nice email from Liaow. Just checking I know if the phone will work in my country, warning me about customs tax if they open it, just everything really. Made me very confident, they have some shipping delays due to Corona but we're still looking at one week in total. I was very reassured, the guy had perfect English and checked on things most suppliers just would not bother with.
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I really like how they handle their shipments,and communication is top. Plus if your dealing with Mike Wu he is great!! Let us know how you like the phone once it arrives!!!
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liaow(.)com/
The site doesnt seem like much, but I bought my Oppo Reno 10x from them last year. Shipping was very fast, took only a few days to get to Ireland.
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Did you end up buying from liaow? In ireland also and was trying to pick between them and tradingshenzen but they only offer DHL and i can smell the customs charges from DHL
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Did you end up buying from liaow? In ireland also and was trying to pick between them and tradingshenzen but they only offer DHL and i can smell the customs charges from DHL
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Liaow also shipped my phone last year with DHL. I orderd and on the 8th of July I got an email from them with the waybill info and also a photo of the package itself. 3 days later on the 11th of July I got an email from DHL for customs duty to be paid, it was 47 euro. So 3 working day shipping from Hong Kong, that's what I call fast shipping.
That Mike from Liaow is the nicest guy ever. Not only did he contact me before confirming my order to make sure - a nice thing to do for international sales but not something I've ever seen before! - but he's kept me updated every step of the way with photos of the packaging, the address label for me to check and even weighing the package for DHL!
Liaow.com really went above and beyond. They even put the price of the phone as much lower than it really is for customs.
I got mine 16GB RAM from ALI BABA , seller name is "Fujian Century Sea Power Co., Ltd. Manufacturer, Trading Company"
For me, the recommendation goes to Wondamobile - 4 days shipping time from china to central europe, quick and helpful customer support and they promise to pay import fees themselves, should any arise.
I've got mine from mi4canada.()com and I have only good things to say about them (the shipping was with dhl express and it took 4 days to deliver). It's the second phone I've purchased from them.
I got mine 16GB 512GB edition from liaow.com, Mike- the site owner is the most responsive and helpfull man. I will buy one more silver tomorrow.