Fell asleep last night with the turbo charger plugged in and a YouTube playlist going, phone was at least 120 degrees all around after being on for 4 hours straight. Brightness was a few ticks above 0.
well yeah that's not a smart move at all lol. it's well known the turbo charger alone when screen is off gets the phone to around 107....
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jayochs said:
well yeah that's not a smart move at all lol. it's well known the turbo charger alone when screen is off gets the phone to around 107....
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I think I'll just use a standard USB type b charger unless I really need to use the turbo charger, that heat will weaken the battery over time
Modern TurboCharge tech is not like the old stuff. It won't harm the battery.
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I think I'll just use a standard USB type b charger unless I really need to use the turbo charger, that heat will weaken the battery over time
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that's what i do. i use my tab s charger overnight because it's slower..i don't need it charging to 100 within 30 minutes of me going to bed...so i let it slow charge.
Turbo Charger will not affect the battery more than any other normal charger, it slows down at 75-80% to reduce heat
Theres a big difference between overheating and getting warm
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Yeah but won't that heat have an effect on battery performance after awhile?
Im not a tech guy but i guess by 2015 they would have solved that issue
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I usually have mine on the turbo charger while playing angry birds. Doesn't seem to get that hot after an hour or two, but maybe YouTube is different.
Do you have a Google Play Music subscription? I can do background playback, so I wouldn't need to have my screen on.
Using the phone in the car it stays on the charger. At work it's on a charger when it gets low as well. By the time I'm home, it's still got a substantial amt of battery left so anything over 80% I just turn the phone off for the night and charge it in the car or at home the next day to full. It rarely gets below 40%....
my 2 cents... i leave it on the slow charger overnight but earlier today i was running a comcast tv app and streaming it for 2 hours to my tv. my battery heated to 125F
New moto x style here.. I did notice the phone feel warmer using with plugged in charger and apps downloading in the background
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I received my sensation last week and I noticed that while plugged in charging and playing with games or surfing, battery continues to get drained.
Using Battery Indicator Pro and percentage does not move when I am using my sensation.
Troubleshooting steps taken:
Used a different charger: same problem
Used different cable: same problem
Factory reset: pending
Is any one else getting this problem?
Do I have a defective unit?
My phone was dead in the morning, so i put in the charger and booted up. I then streamed some video's from my server over wifi, high quality. And mine continued to charge, although slow.
Hmm, it's been charging since 10:00, and now its 15:30 but it haven't come further than 87%, man this takes time!
That's normal, the dual CPU and screen maybe eating away electricity at the same rate as your wall adapter.
I think using the phone while charging is not healthy for your battery.
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That's normal, the dual CPU and screen maybe eating away electricity at the same rate as your wall adapter.
I think using the phone while charging is not healthy for your battery.
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Yeah, I noticed when playing games n such while charging, it doesn't really charge that much prolly cuz of what u stated, so I try to not use my fone when its charging as I noticed this way it charges way faster
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hycian said:
That's normal, the dual CPU and screen maybe eating away electricity at the same rate as your wall adapter.
I think using the phone while charging is not healthy for your battery.
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I haven't used it, its been laying on the nightdesk the last 6 hours.
Also, now its dropped to 80% had a 30 minutes jogging with bluetooth music and cardio trainer.
Thanks for the reply guys. I think I found the culprit. Some app was keeping my phone from going to sleep. I Update market apps routinely and problem seems to be gone.
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Hello. My Moto G since I bought it has some major battery issues. It charges very slowly on the USB charger and a range of wall chargers. One night the phone turned itself off within 10 minutes of me putting it down from 35% battery to 0%. Then last night I was charging it and saw it go from 65% to fully charged in a split second. From the moment I unplug it after full charge, it will last 7 hours with moderate use. Mainly msging on whatsapp andbrowsing in chrome. So I do use it a lot in those hours whilst I'm out etc but it seems to drain whilst it's in my pocket with the screen off. The screen on time has never passed 3.5 hours with brightness on lowest.
I don't find that too bad but the random flash drainage and charging of the battery I have experienced is concerning. I mainly have 3G/H+ on and very few apps other than whatsapp and instagram plus chrome. I have tried a factory reset too. The battery usage stats is just my screen And the usual stuff.
I really think you should considering buying a new charger.
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If not a new charger, return it... :S
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Agreed, just return it, it's clearly faulty.
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Agreed, just return it, it's clearly faulty.
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It seems pretty common this battery issues with Moto G, i was considering buying one but now i'm not so sure..
Hmm, today I carged with iPad charger (2A) and after unplug, half hour later (autosync is disabled, no games, no music, no chat etc, all possible apps disabled, not rooted) checking once email the battery level was 87%.
Strange.
I read somewhere that charging at 2A well degrade the battery with the benefit of charging it faster. Is this true?
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I read somewhere that charging at 2A well degrade the battery with the benefit of charging it faster. Is this true?
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There is current limiting built-in, with Li-ion so you won't damage or over-charge.
However, heat generated by long-term charging can degrade the battery....
See this:
Battery Charge Levels
Quite simply, it is not possible to overcharge a cell phone battery. However, leaving it plugged in for more that 24 hours can cause it to overheat, thereby shortening its overall lifespan. Most Li-ion batteries and chargers contain internal circuitry that stops the charging when it hits 100 percent, but always unplug it after long charging intervals, just to be safe.
Read more: http://www.ehow.com/way_5296846_can-overcharge-cell-phone-battery.html#ixzz2nMs18x00
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Hi,
The battery in my moto g, the system oper. android drain a lot of % usage, 34% more than display in 6h usage.
In most cases this drain over 5 or 10% battery. What can be responsable for this consumption ?
my battery status:
5h usage - 32% screen (1h) sist oper.(35%) 4h
regards
This is a poll. Again, its your normal day use.
My finding so far: my battery will deplete faster if its charged with turbo charger. I have two MXPE's : one for me and one for my wife. I charged hers to 100% using Turbo and mine with normal charger. Same settings for Moto display, same brightness level and pretty much similar usages. In fact, I use my phone more than her because I am somewhat more active on whatsapp. Her phone deleted faster than mine.
Have you guys noticed any difference in this respect? I am thinking I am going to use normal charger for night and use turbo charger only in a pinch.
I've read this assertion elsewhere too - that any quick charged phone depletes battery faster. Actually I charged my battery with my old slow charger last night to see if I'd lose less today. Subjectively (because my usage isn't really consistent), it seems like maybe the phone is discharging more slowly...
Could be a possibility but i have my lg g3 that i used for a year.. Co pairing my faily usage i get about the same hours of ost.
I think hers may be going down faster maybe because of the background apps or the ost shes using? U cant say ur using the same apps unless u tried them both for ur self..
I know this is the case. I have a Tablet and Phone when I charge them with slightly higher power chargers they deplete at a much faster rate. And when I charge with the slower charger they hold a charge much longer.
(Although bare in mind I'm talking about non Quick Charging devices so maybe that plays a huge part lol but I dont use Quick Chargers on them just slightly faster chargers when I have no choice.)
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For those of you that have noticed faster battery loss after using the quick charge have you tried the non quick charger for a night charge than at a random time used the car quick charge charger? Does the time differ at all than?
I think this needs more testing. I need to do the test on my phone alone on 2 consecutive working days.
I don't understand what the logic behind this theory would be. Just because one reviewer mentioned it all of a sudden its a thing? Not trying to argue just don't understand the logic. The battery/phone don't heat while turbo charging so why would battery deplete faster?
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I don't understand what the logic behind this theory would be. Just because one reviewer mentioned it all of a sudden its a thing? Not trying to argue just don't understand the logic. The battery/phone don't heat while turbo charging so why would battery deplete faster?
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A lot of people report the device gets hot when turbo charging. By the nature of the forcing of charge and the small footprint, how could it not get somewhat hot? I do not use fast charging on my Pure due to this.
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This is a poll. Again, its your normal day use.
My finding so far: my battery will deplete faster if its charged with turbo charger. I have two MXPE's : one for me and one for my wife. I charged hers to 100% using Turbo and mine with normal charger. Same settings for Moto display, same brightness level and pretty much similar usages. In fact, I use my phone more than her because I am somewhat more active on whatsapp. Her phone deleted faster than mine.
Have you guys noticed any difference in this respect? I am thinking I am going to use normal charger for night and use turbo charger only in a pinch.
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Charging fast is bad for the battery, so it only makes sense for her not to last as long.
My wife wears down faster when I quick charge her. I only do it when I need her for short bursts.
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As I understand turbo change. The phone only utilizes turbo charge for the 0-85 or so, then the phone uses standard charging to top the battery off. I have also not noticed any heat while charging using the OEM charger provided out of the box. Believe what you will. I just don't care how you charge your battery.
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Why would the phone discharge faster after a quick charge? Isn't one hundred percent one hundred percent? I'm not flaming, I'm actually curious if there's a difference.
Idk who came up with this, your battery does not drain faster when its charged faster, its not logical.. All turbo charge or any type of quick charge does is supplies more a more faster charging rate based on the volts and amps it puts out. This should not effect your batteries life in anyway.
I can understand the thinking behind this but there is absolutely no way you can test this correctly because you aren't doing the EXACT same usage every day. Something will always differ.
Was this ever an issue with previous Moto X's?
After about a week's use I feel like the battery has a break in period. I was getting horrible battery at first. The past few days have been par (4ish hours SOT). I've only used the OEM Turbo chargers once but I have several other Turbo chargers (mainly from Galaxy's, Turbo's, etc). Almost every charger in my house could be considered a "Turbo charger" but I only receive the notification that the device recognizes a turbo charge on the OEM charger.
That said, I have worse battery life if I charge all night. It's as if the battery fully charges, then depletes, but still registers as 100%. So shortly taking it off the charger, the battery will quickly drop to low 90's and soon into the 80's. If I charge to 100% and unplug soon after my battery life is as expected.
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After about a week's use I feel like the battery has a break in period. I was getting horrible battery at first. The past few days have been par (4ish hours SOT). I've only used the OEM Turbo chargers once but I have several other Turbo chargers (mainly from Galaxy's, Turbo's, etc). Almost every charger in my house could be considered a "Turbo charger" but I only receive the notification that the device recognizes a turbo charge on the OEM charger.
That said, I have worse battery life if I charge all night. It's as if the battery fully charges, then depletes, but still registers as 100%. So shortly taking it off the charger, the battery will quickly drop to low 90's and soon into the 80's. If I charge to 100% and unplug soon after my battery life is as expected.
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You are making an interesting point here. Anyone else can confirm?
I'm going to do a test myself. Before that I want to add that I've noticed when charging with turbocharger(I've used only the OEM's) the charged capacity tends to go a little over the 3000mha, it becomes something like ~3300mha and after plugging out it still stays like that until 90% where it stats under 3000mha charged.
I charge every night with slow charge. I am at 95% after 1 hour and 45 minutes unplugged. Checked some news a few texts and 2 phone calls. Seems normal to me.
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Battery drain is pretty evident. I am on MM Indian ROM and below are the findings.
1. Used turbo charger to top it up at 100%. Dis-connected the charger. WIFI is enabled and network is 2G (data off). All background app sync is disabled, and the only major applications running in background are firefox and whatsapp.
With medium brightness and browsing, the battery will drop to 97-98% within 5-8 minutes.
2. 100% turbo-charged at night. WIFI enabled/2G network (Data off). Woke up in the morning after 6 hours and battery is good at 98%
WIFI off and network moved to 4G/data and after browsing for 10 minutes, the battery falls to 85%
3. Instead of turbo charger, used Xaiomi MI pad charger (non-turbo) and my experience with #1 and #2 are pretty much the same.
Everybody knows first smartwatch problem is battery. Having to charge it daily is like a nightmare.
But there is anything still worst? Yes, if you have the S2 you know it: the ****ing slow charge!
I am still surprised, and cannot undertand, how can it be. Ig the battery capacity is less than 300mah, and the charger is 700mah/h, why it takes so long to get it charged?
I think Samsung had a big error in this issue.
My previous Pebble Time battery lasts for 5/6 days, and what was still better is that in 30 minutes you have battery full.
You can fail in one of the two factors (battery duration or time to charge), but not in both. And Samsung did it.
Mine takes ~ 2hrs to full charge.
Agree, too slow.
I shut down the watch for faster recharge, but haven't used a stopwatch so far. I have to reload every second night and i am fine with it
Mine charges pretty fast, less than a hour and it is full. But another thing you have to look at is this is wireless charging which charges slower than regular charging. No gold contact points or anything. FYI I have the 3g version, don't know if that makes a difference or not.
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Mine takes around 2 hours too. It's true that QI normally is slower than cable, but it depends also in the power of the chargues. Normal QI chargers are 1000mah and they charge batteries 10x bigger en same time... and s2 charger is less than half the power!
So the problem is not the charger...
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Sure you can apply a higher current to charge, but most battery with that size just cannot affort that high current and will die very soon, so many will limit the current. There exist small battery can recharge at high current, just not many using it.
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My previous Pebble Time battery lasts for 5/6 days, and what was still better is that in 30 minutes you have battery full.
You can fail in one of the two factors (battery duration or time to charge), but not in both. And Samsung did it.
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Pebble Time battery size is only 150mah and charges via a wired connection. No one is failing anything.
Wireless charging has losses maybe around 30-50%. So that 700mA of input from the charger will only give around 350-490mA of output. Plus the fact that we charge it while the watch is powered on will also be another factor to slow down the charging.
Also, pebble doesn't give you plenty of options to do so lesser user interface means lesser battery drainage, not like with the s2, you can do plenty of stuff which will result in you always touching and using the watch.
As for me, i've personally tested the watch. At minimal usage (maybe just the same usage I do when I was using a pebble) i got 5 straight days without charging. And I fully charge it at 1.5 to 2hrs.
Ps. Sorry for bad english.
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2hrs here. Make sure you use the supplied cable, I find if I use my s6 one with my Gear or Tab S it is slower ...
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FYI I have the 3g version, don't know if that makes a difference or not.
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It may. The 3G version uses a Qualcomm SoC and it may support QuickCharge. I haven't timed my 3G but I'd guess it charges in an hour-ish. I also keep it off when charging.
I just got my Gear S2 Classic today and it was at 35% when I first powered it on. So anyways, it's been on the charger for 1.5 hours now and it's at 72%. I even turned it off at 64% yet it still took over 15 minutes to charge that 8%. Is it just me, or does this watch charge slow, at least compared to my Moto 360 1st gen?
It's slow. Best to just charge overnight.
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My wifi/bluetooth classic is not THAT slow. Took just under an hour to go from 50% to almost full charge this morning. Doesn't take more than two hours to go from near zero to full. (I generally put it on the charger overnight no matter what the charge, though, so I don't keep a daily record of how long it takes to charge.)
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It's slow. Best to just charge overnight.
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I concur and that's what I do too. This watch gets me thru till the nite so I just leave it on the wireless charger and go to bed.[emoji14]
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Really? Never seems slow to me. I actually think my S2 classic charges quite fast! I usually put it on the charger when I get in, and it's at 100% (from about 55%) by the time I'm done eating supper and cleaning up. Could always be faster but it definitely doesn't slow me down
I have the s2 3g. It charges pretty fast. I actually use it for sleep monitoring g with sleep as android. That socks the battery pretty good overnight. In the morning I put it on the charger and it's mostly full by the time I have to leave a couple hours later.
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Maybe all the fast charging on all these new phones has spoiled me. The s6 edge charged ridiculously fast. I can't even imagine what quick charge 3.0 will be like.