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i use gmail only. otherwise adore this phone but there are no email apps that work with getting instant notifications for email.
How is this possible? are there any apps that work? Theres no way Huawei would put this phone out with this issue...
I receive both gmail and exchange push notifications all the time, using the native gmail app and the email app for exchange.
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I receive both gmail and exchange push notifications all the time, using the native gmail app and the email app for exchange.
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the gmail app updates randomly. every time i unlock the screen, the gmail icon shows up and all of a sudden I have unread emails in the inbox.
if i use the native mail app, will this issue be corrected?
Do you have them whitelisted in the power usage firewall?
This is a real issue, I set every single setting possible to try and rectify this problem but I can't. It doesn't appear to affect everyone but I can confirm if affects me.
Never had any issues with Hangout or Whatsapp though like other have had.
I'm not sure if it's hardware revision, software version or what makes it not work for some, very frustrating. I've tried most roms, root, no root, using gmail, using built in mail, using other mail programs but the same results.
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Do you have them whitelisted in the power usage firewall?
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where is this option?
mail is also not an option to protect
Phone manager app, battery manager, protected apps.
loudog3114 said:
Phone manager app, battery manager, protected apps.
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In this setting, neither Gmail or the native mail app are present. Outlook was present when I had it, but the same issues that gmail had.
The "E-Mail" app works great here (Gmail too)
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The "E-Mail" app works great here (Gmail too)
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native, gmail, outlook, bluemail...none of them work. How is this happening? How does everyone not have this issue?
Such an amazing device, such a stupid way to completely ruin it...
Is there any way to get email notifications that I haven't brought up?
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native, gmail, outlook, bluemail...none of them work. How is this happening? How does everyone not have this issue?
Such an amazing device, such a stupid way to completely ruin it...
Is there any way to get email notifications that I haven't brought up?
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Root and update rom after my guide?
I have already root and update rom but I am experiencing the same issue as the OP. I have tried EVERYTHING.
Move to app-sys, change doze settings, protect apps, clear dalvik cache and everything I can think of.
Telegram works, whatsapp works but NO email works.
I have tried typeapp/bluemail/gmail/normal mail. None works.
As soon as I lid up the screen all notifications come. When my phone is on the charger all notification comes.
So clearly this has something to do with power management. I am thinking of selling my phone because of this. In my work I MUST HAVE PUSH WORKING. Otherwise the phone is of no use.
Such a great device otherwise, one of the best if not the best I've ever had. Switched from galaxy s6 to this. But WHY HUAWEI ARENT YOU SOLVING THIS ISSUES.
A google search shows the issue has been there since mate 7 and even longer time ago.
I'm not stating this will work for everyone but I'm currently no longer experiencing the gmail issue that I've had since day one and on every rom I've tried.
If you are bootloader unlocked and have some time then give this a go and feedback on your results please.
I've installed rayglobe rom from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/development/rom-rayglobe-rom-t3315682
I then installed Doze from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/general/howto-solving-notification-issues-root-t3294178
As detailed in the Doze instructions I applied tuhinxp04's profile and just change idle timeout and max idle timeout to 60 sec and 600 sec respectively.
gmail and Blackberry hub are working as expected for this first time since getting the phone 3 weeks ago. You may not have the same success but please give it a go
UPDATE: 8 minutes is the longest I've so far had to wait for an email to arrive. Not push but something I can live with. Whatsapp and Hangouts seems fine btw.
The solution of notification problems for all apps of huawei phones (emui) is this brilliance application
Memory Locker on Google play
Lock all of your apps that are having problem with this software and also Lock your app in recent app and see if it is fixed.
Cheers!
Gnasher666 the issue is that push is critical for me. I turn on my screen every 10mins anyway but email push is very critical. Every second 15 second counts and I need to be alerted directly.
I thought i solved it. It worked perfectly for 8 hours and then suddenly died after I recharged my battery. Was even going to write a guide on how I solved it haha but then it died again so no solution here.
I really dont know why its so difficult to make it work because some apps do work like telegram.
So what is so special about that app that works but not others....
I get your frustration, I don't need that timely a notification for emails - 10 - 15 minutes works. Prior to all the playing around I've done I could go from one unlock to the next without receiving a mail notification, so for me this is a great step forward. Obviously, this is a hack, we shouldn't have to do it in the first place and Huawei needs to resolve it. If they fix this issue I'd be able to say without any doubt this is the best phone I've had (and I've had a lot, including top end Androids, iPhone 6S plus etc).
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Gnasher666 the issue is that push is critical for me. I turn on my screen every 10mins anyway but email push is very critical. Every second 15 second counts and I need to be alerted directly.
I thought i solved it. It worked perfectly for 8 hours and then suddenly died after I recharged my battery. Was even going to write a guide on how I solved it haha but then it died again so no solution here.
I really dont know why its so difficult to make it work because some apps do work like telegram.
So what is so special about that app that works but not others....
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read this (doze - android 6.0):
http://www.androidcentral.com/inside-marshmallow-what-doze-how-do-i-use-it-and-what-does-it-do
You'll still get notified when "high-priority" apps need your attention. That means things like phone calls or SMS messages can get through (and thus waking up your dozing phone) as well as any app that declares itself as high-priority. Other things, like email notifications or Clash of Clans telling you your gold mine has leveled up aren't going to come in and wake your phone up.
This doesn't mean you never get any notifications while your phone is idle. Google uses what they call an "Idle maintenance window" where they pick up any notifications that may be available in one big batch. Then your phone can quickly go back to sleep.
When you wake your phone by side button, notiffication will arive immediatly (sorry 4 bad english)
not confirming anything - but memory locker may work. i set -17 to outlook after disabling gmail and I am getting instant emails. more testing until confirmation.
after powering off and on again, had to do all the settings again. so strange, like it sometimes works.
p_noch said:
The solution of notification problems for all apps of huawei phones (emui) is this brilliance application
Memory Locker on Google play
Lock all of your apps that are having problem with this software and also Lock your app in recent app and see if it is fixed.
Cheers!
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Is it best to set the things you want to always stay active -17?
Hi,
I had an Honor Note 8 and notifications any came through if apps were open in app memory, or if they had a widget.
Adding them to a whitelist/ignoring battery optimisations did not work and notifications were blocked and only came through when you opened up the apps.
Is this fixed in the Honor Note 10?
Could any users please test by closing all open apps from app memory and seeing if notifications come through for the following apps:
eBay
Etsy
Amazon seller app
Google Hangouts
WhatsApp
Facebook messenger
This is the only thing holding me back from buying this phone. It doesn't look like a Global version will ever be released and I need to know if the Chinese ROM still kills notifications.
Thank you
Hi buddy
I have noticed when my screen is off for a bit then when I open WhatsApp loads of notifications come through.
Apps&Notifications/Battery/App Launch and set individual aps to Manage manually and turn Run in background. Now Apk does not turn off when the display is turned off ... ?
Kucko34 said:
Apps&Notifications/Battery/App Launch and set individual aps to Manage manually and turn Run in background. Now Apk does not turn off when the display is turned off ... ?
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Even with those option it does not work on note 8. We had to remove an APK called powergenie from the system to stop it from killing app even if those app are whitelisted.
Huawei power management is too aggressive.
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Even with those option it does not work on note 8. We had to remove an APK called powergenie from the system to stop it from killing app even if those app are whitelisted.
Huawei power management is too aggressive.
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One year I used Note 8 with Nougat and no problem with Power Management! Upon upgrading to Oreo system it automatically shuts down applications in the background, and it also does Note 10 ... ?
Phonemanager was the problem here on the Note 8. When i disabled that everyting worked great.
There are 2 settings that will totally minimize this problem (even Galaxy note 8 and iphones of my brothers are having this problem too)
but if you follow these 2 steps you will definitely minimize them as much as other phones
1. Settings/Battery/App Launch and set individual aps you like to get the notification to Manage manually
- turn all the 3 options on here (running in background , startups , and can be run by other apps) this will stop your phone from killing these specific apps from running in background
The second reason you don't get your notifications is because when your screen is off the Wifi will be disconnected first and then for a certain period of time , the system will also turn off your mobile data to save the battery as well. This means even if you have those apps running in background , you still won't get the notification because there's no internet connection....
So step 2 - go to Settings/Battery/ then look at the top right corner for the "gear" icon ,click ---- > Keep mobile data on <----- turn on option
(if you don't have mobile data plan and only rely on your wifi connection,well, you need to turn on keep your w-lan on instead )
Have fun and cheers
Sprazer said:
There are 2 settings that will totally minimize this problem (even Galaxy note 8 and iphones of my brothers are having this problem too)
but if you follow these 2 steps you will definitely minimize them as much as other phones
1. Settings/Battery/App Launch and set individual aps you like to get the notification to Manage manually
- turn all the 3 options on here (running in background , startups , and can be run by other apps) this will stop your phone from killing these specific apps from running in background
The second reason you don't get your notifications is because when your screen is off the Wifi will be disconnected first and then for a certain period of time , the system will also turn off your mobile data to save the battery as well. This means even if you have those apps running in background , you still won't get the notification because there's no internet connection....
So step 2 - go to Settings/Battery/ then look at the top right corner for the "gear" icon ,click ---- > Keep mobile data on <----- turn on option
(if you don't have mobile data plan and only rely on your wifi connection,well, you need to turn on keep your w-lan on instead )
Have fun and cheers
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Thanks, but I did all of this on the Note 8 (when I had one) and it did nothing. All of my notifications were blocked. The only way to fix it was to remove the awful PHONE MANAGER app via the ABD removal method.
If the Note 10 is going to be the same, I'll have to pass. I just want a phone that'll work properly out of the box.
No problem with WhatsApp, messenger eBay and Facebook so far, everything comes straight thru.
I did however observe sligh delay with Gmail.
Even with Gmail widget active in the background emails come at least one minute later after sending from another device.
ultrajapa said:
No problem with WhatsApp, messenger eBay and Facebook so far, everything comes straight thru.
I did however observe sligh delay with Gmail.
Even with Gmail widget active in the background emails come at least one minute later after sending from another device.
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I am using the Honor Mediapad X2 and having the same notifications issue, please note that there exists a HIDDEN WHITE LIST within Phone Manager where certain apps like Whatsapp are white listed and allow notifications to come through whereas other apps such as Hangouts and email clients are not. Having said this, do not use Whatsapp as a test to determine whether the Note 10 has the same issue or not. I do not know whether the Note 10's white list now includes apps such as Hangouts as it is a newer device and so it may be more up to date.
For your test, try an unpopular app which uses standard GCM protocol, kill the app, put the device into DEEP SLEEP (screen off, etc) and only then see if the device wakes up and notifications come through, they should.
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The problems that i had on the Honor 8 are not on the Honor 10. I get all notifications with no problems. Just set the apps in manual mode and select all 3 options in phonemanager -> startup apps.
phorenzik said:
Hi,
I had an Honor Note 8 and notifications any came through if apps were open in app memory, or if they had a widget.
Adding them to a whitelist/ignoring battery optimisations did not work and notifications were blocked and only came through when you opened up the apps.
Is this fixed in the Honor Note 10?
Could any users please test by closing all open apps from app memory and seeing if notifications come through for the following apps:
eBay
Etsy
Amazon seller app
Google Hangouts
WhatsApp
Facebook messenger
This is the only thing holding me back from buying this phone. It doesn't look like a Global version will ever be released and I need to know if the Chinese ROM still kills notifications.
Thank you
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I am sorry to disappoint you. On the Huawei Honor note 10 (EMUI 8.2.0 build 132) you won't receive notifications if the application is closed (not running in the background nor in the foreground), with one exception that I have found so far: WhatsApp.
All the settings you can modify only affect the application WHILE IT'S RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND, that is, the app will keep running if the background and won't be killed if you disabled battery optimization for the specific app and changed the App Launch setting to "Manage Manually" with all 3 options enabled. However, if the application was closed by you or never launched after restarting the phone, you won't receive notifications even with disabled battery optimization and power management.
I am so frustrated, I don't even get reminder notifications from Google Keep notes app. The only workaround is to manually open all the apps you wish to get notification from when you power up the phone.
If anyone has a better workaround or has a different behavior than what I described, please advise!
Cheers,
David
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I am sorry to disappoint you. On the Huawei Honor note 10 (EMUI 8.2.0 build 132) you won't receive notifications if the application is closed (not running in the background nor in the foreground), with one exception that I have found so far: WhatsApp.
All the settings you can modify only affect the application WHILE IT'S RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND, that is, the app will keep running if the background and won't be killed if you disabled battery optimization for the specific app and changed the App Launch setting to "Manage Manually" with all 3 options enabled. However, if the application was closed by you or never launched after restarting the phone, you won't receive notifications even with disabled battery optimization and power management.
I am so frustrated, I don't even get reminder notifications from Google Keep notes app. The only workaround is to manually open all the apps you wish to get notification from when you power up the phone.
If anyone has a better workaround or has a different behavior than what I described, please advise!
Cheers,
David
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David, plz see my post above. I believe there is a built-in white list which once we are able to decipher would be very happy
Could this be the white list?
/data/data/com.huawei.systemmanager/files/cootekphoneservice/white_list
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=77664703
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Have friends solved the notification issue?
I still keep going
nemkate said:
Have friends solved the notification issue?
I still keep going
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Hi,
Unfortunately I believe this is per design and not a bug (Huawei strict battery saving policy.
The only way to guarantee notifications is to open the app you wish to get notifications from and keep it always running in the background.
Read the article below, it explains down to the bit level why notifications don't work on Huawei phones:
Damn I cannot post outside links because I am a new user. So Instead, search Google for this:
"why-your-push-notifications-never-see-the-light-of-day"
I hope it helps
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godudu said:
Hi,
Unfortunately I believe this is per design and not a bug (Huawei strict battery saving policy.
The only way to guarantee notifications is to open the app you wish to get notifications from and keep it always running in the background.
Read the article below, it explains down to the bit level why notifications don't work on Huawei phones:
Damn I cannot post outside links because I am a new user. So Instead, search Google for this:
"why-your-push-notifications-never-see-the-light-of-day"
I hope it helps
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I solved the problem as you said .
Hopefully correct the problem with the new update.
thank you so much :iyi::iyi::iyi:
For me no Problem with all.All Notification working.I use Mini Widgets,Whatsapp,Signal...
SmartPhonesFan said:
I don't use whatsapp that magically works but FB messenger , mails , skype , etc doesn't .. when I open messenger there is orange waiting for network so app can happily work in background but internet wifi or mobile internet will be killed anyway when phone in sleep mode ..
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Have you checked under Phonemanager-Autostart runs in Background ?
SmartPhonesFan said:
I have tried everything..
Maybe I uninstalled something from Huawei what keeps wlan or data always on
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This always on option is there is the developer options in my unrooted stock release.
Hello friends, I am trying to decide if buy this phone or not, but the notification is a basic feature. My most used apps are Telegram, Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp, so I want to know if there was an update or something that fixed the notification management. Thanks in advance.
Hi, just bought a mate 30 pro a few days ago without google services. I side loaded all the apps I needed and everything was working great until I realised I wasn't getting my facebook messenger notifications. If the app is open they come through but when I close the app it's like it goes to sleep after about 5 mins. I made messenger my default sms app to see if that would help and all my texts worked fine but my facebook messages just won't work.
I have all my notifications on, app launch set to manual to allow auto-launch, secondary launch and run in background. I even allowed all permissions but didn't make a difference. I have performance mode on and have selected stay connected when device sleeps.
Has anyone else had any problems like this or know how to fix it? I've done a factory reset and been through every option I could think of. I love the mate 30 pro but probably going to have to get rid of it if i can't fix this problem.
Dan
Dan2700 said:
Hi, just bought a mate 30 pro a few days ago without google services. I side loaded all the apps I needed and everything was working great until I realised I wasn't getting my facebook messenger notifications. If the app is open they come through but when I close the app it's like it goes to sleep after about 5 mins. I made messenger my default sms app to see if that would help and all my texts worked fine but my facebook messages just won't work.
I have all my notifications on, app launch set to manual to allow auto-launch, secondary launch and run in background. I even allowed all permissions but didn't make a difference. I have performance mode on and have selected stay connected when device sleeps.
Has anyone else had any problems like this or know how to fix it? I've done a factory reset and been through every option I could think of. I love the mate 30 pro but probably going to have to get rid of it if i can't fix this problem.
Dan
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Have you removed the app from the battery optimisations list
lawtq said:
Have you removed the app from the battery optimisations list
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Can't believe I missed that, just removed it and it's still works after being idle for 5 mins which it didn't before so hopefully it's fixed. Thanks so much for you help really appreciate it.
Dan2700 said:
Can't believe I missed that, just removed it and it's still works after being idle for 5 mins which it didn't before so hopefully it's fixed. Thanks so much for you help really appreciate it.
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That's what we're here for
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That's what we're here for
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I have none of my "power apps" (apps i use on the daily) in the optimization list. Still no notifications.
I have the apps set manually managed to run in background etc. STILL NO PUSH NOTIFICATIONS.
All things side loaded etc.
Please help.
strigif0rm3s said:
I have none of my "power apps" (apps i use on the daily) in the optimization list. Still no notifications.
I have the apps set manually managed to run in background etc. STILL NO PUSH NOTIFICATIONS.
All things side loaded etc.
Please help.
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Go to notification settings and turn on sounds and "on top" option. All notifications works well for me - asian version of mate 30 pro.
Same thing happened to me. What i did was reset phone update to the firmware and after that it went back to normal. For some reason it stopped working after i used the app phone clone tranffering old apps from my old mate 10. Hope it helps...
Same with me on my Mate 30 Pro 5G chuna version
Manage launch already set manuall and auto launch,secondary launch and keep running background all is ON..but same no notif
Yes..same in here too..mate 30 pro 5G china
All launch manually,it means run background,auto start always on..but still no luck..after 5 mins idle..no notif.
But my fren have it with global rom,and it work normally
No lock apps
I wonder if the reasons behind this problem are also the reason behind 'alarms' not going off sometimes. For example, I have an app called 'Alarm Clock Radio', and it seems like it needs to be the 'front' app for the alarm to remain set overnight? It seems to work just fine if I 'test' it by setting alarms in the near future, but it rarely lasts overnight. This app adds a notification when it has an alarm set, but that is sometimes not there and that seems to be coincident with the alarm not working...
oh, and also Accubattery, that is supposed to alert you when the charge gets to a certain level, but sometimes doesn't....
davidmaxwaterman said:
I wonder if the reasons behind this problem are also the reason behind 'alarms' not going off sometimes. For example, I have an app called 'Alarm Clock Radio', and it seems like it needs to be the 'front' app for the alarm to remain set overnight? It seems to work just fine if I 'test' it by setting alarms in the near future, but it rarely lasts overnight. This app adds a notification when it has an alarm set, but that is sometimes not there and that seems to be coincident with the alarm not working...
oh, and also Accubattery, that is supposed to alert you when the charge gets to a certain level, but sometimes doesn't....
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I made the changes to the 'Battery optimisation', so that the apps that I want to run long term, for whatever reason, aren't 'killed'...ie set to "Don't allow - May drain your battery more quickly"; but they still don't last until the next morning. I would have thought that apps like 'Alarm clock radio' would set some kind of system alarm that would launch the radio app, rather than have to have the app running continuously.
I ran the app Push Notification Tester and it comes back with error after 4 tests. Not registered for push notifications. It doesn’t matter if you change settings or not you don’t receive push notifications. Weird because I get normal SMS and WhatsApp just fine!
Acidburnsn0w said:
I ran the app Push Notification Tester and it comes back with error after 4 tests. Not registered for push notifications. It doesn’t matter if you change settings or not you don’t receive push notifications. Weird because I get normal SMS and WhatsApp just fine!
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me too!!
wetfloor77 said:
me too!!
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I think it has to do with the Mate 30 Pro not being registered with google and because so many apps as made for the google services, you can’t get Push Notifications to work 100%
All apps that reply on play service to send push notifications wont work you cant pass all the test.
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All apps that reply on play service to send push notifications wont work you cant pass all the test.
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Indeed. My question is do all apps on Google Android require GMS to send Push Notifications?
I ask because I know that not only Google run the notification services, but do they all use the GMSes on Google Android phones, or can phones have multiple on-device services to consolidate communications with cloud-based push notification services?
Can, eg, a Pixel phone, also install Huawei Managed Services?
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Indeed. My question is if do all apps on Google Android require GMS to send Push Notifications?
I ask because I know that not only Google run the notification services, but do they all use the GMSes on Google Android phones, or can phones have multiple on-device services to consolidate communications with cloud-based push notification services?
Can, eg, a Pixel phone, also install Huawei Managed Services?
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Very good question. I have been looking into it but so far I thinks that’s why Huawei is trying to get all the apps on there system! (HMS)
davidmaxwaterman said:
Indeed. My question is do all apps on Google Android require GMS to send Push Notifications?
I ask because I know that not only Google run the notification services, but do they all use the GMSes on Google Android phones, or can phones have multiple on-device services to consolidate communications with cloud-based push notification services?
Can, eg, a Pixel phone, also install Huawei Managed Services?
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Apps like the whatsapp, messenger, viber etc still work. Apps that work perfectly before you install the GMS will receive push notifications. Because they dont rely on the play service.
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Apps like the whatsapp, messenger, viber etc still work. Apps that work perfectly before you install the GMS will receive push notifications. Because they dont rely on the play service.
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Exactly, I realised after installing GMS on Mate 30 Pro that push notification on Gmail, Outlook and most apps are not working. Instant messaging, social media and messenger are working just okay with or without GMS.
I just installed GMS on my mate30 pro, everything works well, just push notification is not working.
I ran the tester and there is a error of registration error of push notification.
How to fix this?
I received the phone and have been using it since 2/10. I have the 8/256gb version with the Chinese ROM. The phone is awesome with regards to build quality and so on, but I'm extremely frustrated with the issues that I'm seeing daily. I'm ready to ditch it and return to my Xiaomi Mi Mix.
Notifications are all turned off by default and every app notification must be turned on individually. So every new app needs this manual step.
Notifications, even if enabled correctly, lock screen, does not show up on the lock screen
Various apps do not receive new "data" such as emails until opened. (runs in background, just noticed the application freeze option, and turned that off)
Device Administrator removes MS Outlook as device admin regularly, used to be daily. (required by work)
When plugged into USB-C for Android Auto, must change setting to Transfer files, every time in order to activate Android Auto.
Resets Assistive Voice App nightly, removes Google Assistant and elects none, not even breeno voice.
Depending on task, it switches to use the Breeno Browser instead of Chrome as an intermediary and therefore does not fully like to the next task.
Swiping down on home screen brings up breeno search via breeno browser.
Cannot activate Location Sharing Services even if Location is turned on. I think this has to do w/ limitations on the "Region"
Things that I know does not work
Cannot use 3rd party messaging app. Once 3rd party app is set as default, it switches back to Oppo msgs app due to "security"
Cannot use another Launcher.
Cannot use Google Assistant wake up phrase
Can anyone else confirm if you're also experiencing the above? I'm willing to reset the phone but I think these are "defaults" and not like a choice I made during set-up to cause these issues. Thanks for reading.
The issues you mention are common and are part of the challenge of owning a phone with a Chinese rom. The trade-off is that you own a unique phone with awesome hardware.
I have been able to get all notifications to work though adjusting the notification options as you say, but you can also adjust the power saver and start-up options. You can also lock apps in the recent tasks screen.
You can also uninstall some of the built-in Chinese apps via adb. See the thread in the Find X forum. For example I have uninstalled the browser so it never comes up. I have not uninstalled the launcher as I am ok with the Oppo one.
Issues I have not been able to resolve: changing the default messaging and assistant apps for the long term.
For me, I know the experience of buying a phone with a Chinese rom is never going to be as smooth as a pixel or Samsung in terms of usability, but I love the fact that it is unique and appreciate the hardware (eg charging speed).
Unfortunately, the uniqueness of the phone does not overwhelm these limitations that causes daily resetting of certain defaults for me.
I'm ok w/ not using the Launcher and some other items like google assistant. However, other limitations really create barriers that can't be looked past for me.
I think I'll look for an opportunity to get the Xiaomi Mi 10 pro when possible and sell the Reno Ace.
Is it just me or this phone (or at least the CN RMX2071 roms) are super aggressive in closing apps? I know it's a general theme with "custom" (non aosp) based ROMs and most vendor UI takes, but it feels really really broken in these phones.
I have to keep the phone in "high performance" mode and even then i have to re-run some apps every other day (Nova launcher's google companion app) and even re-add widgets (Google Calendar) for them to continue to function, presumably because the power management system keeps shutting them down.
I have every single app to OFF in the App Freeze screen, every app is allowed to run in background (not the smart option, plain always-let-this-run option) and allowed to launch other apps (otherwise more things are broken) and it still feels like things are quirky due to how aggressive the power management is.
Am i missing something? are there more options that i missed? is it better in the EU/IN ROMs?
The eu rom fixes this problem
So a trade off of functionality vs latest security patches etc. Might be worth a try of switching over and at least trying it for a short little bit to determine.
Does anyone know if there's a differnce in behavior for Android Auto between CN and EU ROMs? (though i imagine its also related to power management at the least)
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I am on EU ROM here in the UK (A.28) and ever since I got this phone. It loves to close apps in the background. Facebook used 1400mah when it was just running in the background. Disabled it running in background, notifications work but now it only uses 234mah roughly. There system is messed up. Other apps that I like to use in the background include Google Clock and Skip Track Settings.
These I have a Tasker to launch both apps, with a little pause between launch. I have "Exclude from recent apps" enabled and then after they've launched. I get it to go home automatically. Then with my usage, I have this task running on boot, 5am (whilst I'm asleep) and on secondary app open. I don't notice it, other than when it boots and you just gotta let it run. My clock then works 100% of the time for my alarms and works all day.
One thing to note is, if you click "clear all" in recents, you have to run the task (I do this with the secondary app) to reopen the apps. Thankfyully, with Tasker with auto start-up enabled, it just works and is obviously in realme's don't close in background list.
Thankfully, with Android 11, a promising change to the rules for OEMs is that they can't have list of preferable apps and have to give all app developers an equal chance to running and not being killed. So hopefully, with Android 11, realme will have to stop this annoying practise.
Hope I've explained that well enough and you can use Tasker as a bootleg option
- Josh
Are you saying the power issues are still prevalent in the EU rom as well? If i got you right, You have some kind of a Tasker config to keep launching all the apps that the OS kills on various stages? Because i don't see how that would exclude them from being killed/blocked by the Realme UI service. Again, Unless there IS a difference in the EU rom.
In my case, I gave up on using Google Clock because the alarms never trigger and Android Auto is insanely hard to get running because it keeps killing SOME part of it or one of the apps im trying to use in Auto (Waze, Maps, Youtube Music, etc)
ransagy said:
Are you saying the power issues are still prevalent in the EU rom as well? If i got you right, You have some kind of a Tasker config to keep launching all the apps that the OS kills on various stages? Because i don't see how that would exclude them from being killed/blocked by the Realme UI service. Again, Unless there IS a difference in the EU rom.
In my case, I gave up on using Google Clock because the alarms never trigger and Android Auto is insanely hard to get running because it keeps killing SOME part of it or one of the apps im trying to use in Auto (Waze, Maps, Youtube Music, etc)
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Yes, apps that realme likes to kill in the background. I have them opened by Tasker whilst I'm sleeping and on boot as realme doesn't close Tasker in the background and then the apps work fine all day. I don't notice it open them other than on boot as otherwise my phone is in standby.
Alarms never triggered for me as realme killed Google Clock, that's why now when it just opens in the background as I sleep it isn't killed.
I don't use my phone intensely and because Tasker opens them as apps, realme can't close them because they're still technically open, even though they don't show in recents. That's why when you clear all apps in recents, you need to then reopen them (that's what my secondary Tasker app does).
As for Android Auto, I haven't had any issue with it. When I use it, my car isn't technical so it uses the screen. I plug my phone in, turn the car engine on and phone begins to charge. Then with a bluetooth to FM adapter, my phone auto connects to bluetooth, and as soon as my phone connects, Android Auto automatically opens (as I have it enabled in Auto's settings) and I get it to play music automatically.
For someone using the actual plug in display to the car, I don't know. Android Auto came pre-installed and all I had to do was install the version for "phone screens".
If you need help with Tasker, my insta is below. Feel free to reply to this or message me on there.
Hope this helps
- Josh
It does help, Thanks!
ransagy said:
Are you saying the power issues are still prevalent in the EU rom as well? If i got you right, You have some kind of a Tasker config to keep launching all the apps that the OS kills on various stages? Because i don't see how that would exclude them from being killed/blocked by the Realme UI service. Again, Unless there IS a difference in the EU rom.
In my case, I gave up on using Google Clock because the alarms never trigger and Android Auto is insanely hard to get running because it keeps killing SOME part of it or one of the apps im trying to use in Auto (Waze, Maps, Youtube Music, etc)
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Due to a similar issue I had in my corporate Outlook e-mail app, I searched for a solution for the error I got there like "Your organization has removed its data associated with this app" and I found an article from Microsoft proposing a resolution (url not include in this post because it is not allowed, however it is quite easy to find it).
I followed that resolution proposed and it worked for Google Clock app. The alarm finally rang this morning!
Basically, you should go to app list, choose Google Clock (or even any clock app) and configure it as follows:
-in "Power Saver", choose ""Run in Background"
-Set "Allow Notifications" to on
-Set "Auto Startup" to on
-Set "Allow other Apps or Services to Launch" to on
Hope it helps
Yeah, I pretty much did that to every single app on the phone (Besides "Auto Startup" where the OS only allows you 5 outside the whitelisted apps it knows like whatsapp, discord, etc) and i still had interminent issues here and there. Thanks for the heads up either way!
Wpbarreto said:
Due to a similar issue I had in my corporate Outlook e-mail app, I searched for a solution for the error I got there like "Your organization has removed its data associated with this app" and I found an article from Microsoft proposing a resolution (url not include in this post because it is not allowed, however it is quite easy to find it).
I followed that resolution proposed and it worked for Google Clock app. The alarm finally rang this morning!
Basically, you should go to app list, choose Google Clock (or even any clock app) and configure it as follows:
-in "Power Saver", choose ""Run in Background"
-Set "Allow Notifications" to on
-Set "Auto Startup" to on
-Set "Allow other Apps or Services to Launch" to on
Hope it helps
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ransagy said:
Yeah, I pretty much did that to every single app on the phone (Besides "Auto Startup" where the OS only allows you 5 outside the whitelisted apps it knows like whatsapp, discord, etc) and i still had interminent issues here and there. Thanks for the heads up either way!
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I also enabled all of these settings (other than last one, can't find it) and had some days it worked, some days it didn't. So for the sake of my actual work, I used my Tasker method and works 100% of the time. Ultimately, realme kinda screwed us over. Ultimately, Android 11 should fix this with it's new guidelines so let's just work around it in the mean time.
Yeah, I'm yet to try your Tasker method, i definitely will though, it's basically the last ditch effort here. I just finished switching to the EU rom as well.
ransagy said:
Yeah, I'm yet to try your Tasker method, i definitely will though, it's basically the last ditch effort here. I just finished switching to the EU rom as well.
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ransagy said:
Yeah, I pretty much did that to every single app on the phone (Besides "Auto Startup" where the OS only allows you 5 outside the whitelisted apps it knows like whatsapp, discord, etc) and i still had interminent issues here and there. Thanks for the heads up either way!
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On Startup Manager, for me on EU ROM A.30, and since I first got the phone. The limit on Startup Manager was and still is 20 not recommended startup apps. This is, in realme's words, "to ensure the hone will run smoothly", like bollocks. My old phone had 3GB of RAM and has the exact same apps and ran fine (other than only allowing 3 backgrounds apps to run before memory ran out). But with 8GB and SD865, it's just their way of saying, oh look we have this amount of screen on time. Judging by the list on A.30, the Google Clock is now recommended (I don't think it was before). Either way, realme is gonna get shunned with Android 11's new guidelines and it'll be a fair playing field.
Android Authority - Google Fighting Unfair Power Management Article (Just an interesting read):
www. androidauthority. com/ android-11-background-apps-1136794/
- Josh
Yeah, EU rom (A.20 as its the only one compatible with the chinese model right now) seems to have saner behavior, 20 startup apps instead of 5 and i don't think it has that "allow others to launch" option at all, so not blocking it even? We'll know soon. App Freeze doesn't seem to be automatically enabling on apps, either, also good.
Google Clock worked for me this morning (i duplicated the "system" clock alarms, just a couple mins later to be sure something triggers)
I'll check Android Auto today as well.
I AM always on High Performance mode though.
The thing is about Android 11's changes, that they seem to be worded a little on the easy side in the Google language - makes it seem to me that Google is just asking the vendors to be a little clearer on what they do when informing the users, not that they absolutely can't kill background apps. Here's hoping though.
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Yeah, EU rom (A.20 as its the only one compatible with the chinese model right now) seems to have saner behavior, 20 startup apps instead of 5 and i don't think it has that "allow others to launch" option at all, so not blocking it even? We'll know soon. App Freeze doesn't seem to be automatically enabling on apps, either, also good.
Google Clock worked for me this morning (i duplicated the "system" clock alarms, just a couple mins later to be sure something triggers)
I'll check Android Auto today as well.
I AM always on High Performance mode though.
The thing is about Android 11's changes, that they seem to be worded a little on the easy side in the Google language - makes it seem to me that Google is just asking the vendors to be a little clearer on what they do when informing the users, not that they absolutely can't kill background apps. Here's hoping though.
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I keep my settings to standard and never do high performance stuff. I also use 60hz as although I love 90hz, I also love battery life and it isn't enough for me to justify the battery usage.
Yeah, I dropped down to normal and had no issues so far, without tasker of anything, just the EU A.20 ROM.
I am on 90Hz all the time though - As someone who is used to 144Hz monitors and gaming, i can sorely tell the difference between 60 and 90 and to me the battery life difference is somewhat negligible.
I haven't tried Android Auto, but we'll see soon enough. Android 11 also brings wireless Auto to everyone, so that might help there as well.