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reccomend a rom?

I was going to try the ICS port but dont want to ruin the true one when its out, plus i read GPS is so so and I need that for my running apps.
Ive tried a few but always lean back to stock, but am getting ancy. Can anyone reccomend a nice clean ROM that works well with all the apps and is good on battery.
I might go back to SuperOSR but wanted something different. Tried CY7, Zulu, and like one or two more.
thanks

Cm7 or miui
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Carbon is pretty awesome. Its oxygen based so it is IMHO faster and much more stable than cyanogen
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enik_fox said:
Carbon is pretty awesome. Its oxygen based so it is IMHO faster and much more stable than cyanogen
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+1 to carbon!
i'm always confused when i see people recommend cm because frankly, in my experience, it runs like junk on this phone.

v3rk said:
+1 to carbon!
i'm always confused when i see people recommend cm because frankly, in my experience, it runs like junk on this phone.
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Very true, Sad that it's not stable on a developer phone.
For me the best custom ROM is Oxygen, No problems at all.

Cm7 runs very stable for me, even on my old heroc that was barely half the phone this one is, with the same apps/launcher setup.
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personally i'd say miui over cm7. i was so frustrated with cm7 i wanted to sell my phone. it's a bit better now but it's so hard to switch back to cm7 after getting used to the dialer, sms app and themability of miui. and the stability. all i ever got from cm7 was reboot loops and phone hangs that made me miss my alarms.

v3rk said:
+1 to carbon!
i'm always confused when i see people recommend cm because frankly, in my experience, it runs like junk on this phone.
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Did you flash the stable version?
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brrip said:
personally i'd say miui over cm7. i was so frustrated with cm7 i wanted to sell my phone. it's a bit better now but it's so hard to switch back to cm7 after getting used to the dialer, sms app and themability of miui. and the stability. all i ever got from cm7 was reboot loops and phone hangs that made me miss my alarms.
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Try oxygen then...
CM 7.1 running great for me indeed
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Nscollab is awesome very stable
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Oxygen and GPA19 THE BEST ROMS YET (per my exp) your free to try 'em there minimal no flashy stuff tho just speed and stability =]

went to look for carbon but apparently it has been removed here, any one know why?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188323&highlight=carbon

tevil said:
went to look for carbon but apparently it has been removed here, any one know why?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188323&highlight=carbon
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Due to forum rules, you would need to visit the devs forum for the rom.
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tevil said:
went to look for carbon but apparently it has been removed here, any one know why?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188323&highlight=carbon
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3418-rom-carbon-co2-edition-v11-oxygen-ics-mix-aosp/

Recap...
CM7 = Stability issue for some...
Carbon/Oxygen = Stable/recommended...
MIUI = Stable, alternate experience "no pure google".
I juste got my Nexus S, I quickly rooted and and installed CM7. I was use to it: had a Nexus One.
But, I experience some instability/crash. If my latest nightly doesn't fix it I'll try Cabon/Oxygen.

tevil said:
I was going to try the ICS port but dont want to ruin the true one when its out, plus i read GPS is so so and I need that for my running apps.
Ive tried a few but always lean back to stock, but am getting ancy. Can anyone reccomend a nice clean ROM that works well with all the apps and is good on battery.
I might go back to SuperOSR but wanted something different. Tried CY7, Zulu, and like one or two more.
thanks
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I would recommend CM7 or Pete Alfoso's ROM or CM7 with Petes Kernel..its much more stable

What exactly is different between oxygen and carbon?
I really like oxygen for all that it is how ever I am nit picky and don't like that it has a different boot animation than stock and I can't seem to change it on that rom like I have been able to on others. That being said I am running NSCollab and like it a lot though I do wish it was more clean like oxygen but like that it retains stock boot animation yet has all the features on it that I like. But if anyone knows how to give oxygen a stock boot animation I would jump ship quick.
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djwyman said:
What exactly is different between oxygen and carbon?
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i'm not sure of the exact differences, but i can report that carbon feels much more snappy and smooth. i also happen to get better benchmark scores with carbon.

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i'm not sure of the exact differences, but i can report that carbon feels much more snappy and smooth. i also happen to get better benchmark scores with carbon.
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The only differences iirc is that it is themed and has some speed optimizations. The latest Oxygen includes all these tweaks so the only difference now is the themeing.
in response to the original question, if you want every possible feature and option go for CM. if you want a stock experience Oxygen or GPA19. And even though Ive never used it i would suggest muiu just because its so different to everything else out there

djwyman said:
What exactly is different between oxygen and carbon?
I really like oxygen for all that it is how ever I am nit picky and don't like that it has a different boot animation than stock and I can't seem to change it on that rom like I have been able to on others. That being said I am running NSCollab and like it a lot though I do wish it was more clean like oxygen but like that it retains stock boot animation yet has all the features on it that I like. But if anyone knows how to give oxygen a stock boot animation I would jump ship quick.
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Come on man. So youre saying you don't want to use oxygen because of a boot animation?!?!? That makes absolutley no sense at all.
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AOSP & data speeds

So I've been running CleanROM 5.6 for awhile and it hasn't been updated in awhile. I really want to give AOSP a shot but last time I flashed CM10, I had constant data drops, it was actually pretty bad compared to CleanROM. I was hoping to get some opinions on some AOSP ROMs, data stability being top priority. 4.2 would be great, however I'm ok with flashing an earlier release as long as data works as expected. Thanks
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If you want a nice stable fast and beautiful different aosp ROM with plenty of mods. Use slim bean. Very nice. Its my aosp go to. I like the DPI. Dont forget to flash the all in one package with it. It has lots of goodies. And includes the gapps. Peace.
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Mastamoons cm10.1 builds data has been fixed for awhile now, when i'd run a 4.2 rom i'd always run his.
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I prefer LiquidSmooth over both of these above 4.2 AOSP ROMs.
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PAC man ROM is the way to Go. I haven't been back on TW in a while
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Carbon ROM is legit
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Shibby87 said:
So I've been running CleanROM 5.6 for awhile and it hasn't been updated in awhile. I really want to give AOSP a shot but last time I flashed CM10, I had constant data drops, it was actually pretty bad compared to CleanROM. I was hoping to get some opinions on some AOSP ROMs, data stability being top priority. 4.2 would be great, however I'm ok with flashing an earlier release as long as data works as expected. Thanks
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how about you do a test for us and report back lol
dont use data enough to really notice. only on when im using it. then its off again.

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ddurandSGS3 said:
how about you do a test for us and report back lol
dont use data enough to really notice. only on when im using it. then its off again.
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Ha, I'm still on unlimited so I use my data a lot which is why I'd like an aosp ROM with reliable data connection.
From what others have said here and in the development sections, it looks like I'm gonna try carbon and liquid smooth first, I'll test and report back
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Rootbox is pretty nice

PsiPhiDan said:
I prefer LiquidSmooth over both of these above 4.2 AOSP ROMs.
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Well, I've used both liquid and carbon enough to run through the motions and the winner wound up being carbon. This is purely based on 4G lte speeds in my area (Philly, PA), I'm not saying one is better because they are both equally unique in their own way, I just tend to have a better signal with carbon, battery life and performance was pretty much a wash.
Hopefully this is useful to those in the same boat
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I've had no problems with CM10.1 (M1) ... I just upgraded to M2 today and things look good so far but I haven't really given it much burn-in time to find issues.

4.1 ROM: Jelly 'Beans' - Build 12
4.2 ROM: [OFFICIAL] AOKP | d2vzw | jb-mr1 build 5 -OR- CarbonROM -OR- RootBox
If you want a 4.2 ROM and would like a hybrid, I'd go with PAC-Man ROM

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Well, I've used both liquid and carbon enough to run through the motions and the winner wound up being carbon. This is purely based on 4G lte speeds in my area (Philly, PA), I'm not saying one is better because they are both equally unique in their own way, I just tend to have a better signal with carbon, battery life and performance was pretty much a wash.
Hopefully this is useful to those in the same boat
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Carbon always worked best for me as well. My signal does seem to be significantly lower and data is slower than on tw roms though. But the AOSP benefits far outweigh the signal hit

salas2324 said:
PAC man ROM is the way to Go. I haven't been back on TW in a while
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i just loaded PAC rom. so far so good. but i did notice something.
cant post on dev threads yet.

vonrandy said:
Carbon always worked best for me as well. My signal does seem to be significantly lower and data is slower than on tw roms though. But the AOSP benefits far outweigh the signal hit
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I'm currently on Jelly Beans Build 12 and I absolutely love it. I don't know why but everytime I was on AOSP I found myself missing touchwiz. Although I go back and forth between Beans and Liquid. I loved some of the bells and whistles AOSP had but I keep finding myself coming back to Touchwiz. What are your ideas of the benefits that AOSP has. I find myself missing lock screen widgets and a few of the subtle things in the build.

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I'm currently on Jelly Beans Build 12 and I absolutely love it. I don't know why but everytime I was on AOSP I found myself missing touchwiz. Although I go back and forth between Beans and Liquid. I loved some of the bells and whistles AOSP had but I keep finding myself coming back to Touchwiz. What are your ideas of the benefits that AOSP has. I find myself missing lock screen widgets and a few of the subtle things in the build.
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I think AOSP far outweighs touchwiz in every aspect. TW does have some pretty neat features like gestures and popup widows, however AOSP just feels right, not hacked together like TW. Every Android device should come shipped with it. I don't really see the need for TW, Sense, Blur etc, besides corporate branding.. None of them can hold a candle to pure Google Android IMO.
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I've noticed ever since going from a TW ROM (CleanROM 5.0) to an AOSP based ROM (Slim ROM, Carbon ROM, LiquidSmooth and currently ParanoidKANDdroid) that the data connection all around seems weaker than the TW based ROMS. For me all the AOSP ROMS mainained the same 4G speed, and had data drops in all the same areas. Some local area where I live I get great service/4g, others I have no 4g at all and am lucky to have any 3g on top of that. Only downside of the aosp based roms

[Q] Touchwiz Vs Stock

So I have been on Touchwiz 4.1.2 (AxisM RLS 21) for a long time and when the GEL laucher apk came out I installed it on my phone and I fell in love with it as soon as I got it and that got me wondering..."What features of Touchwiz do I actually use?" If I dont use any features of Touchwiz then I want to flash a 4.4 ROM (most likely Cyanogen Mod) on my S3. So my question to you is What features are specific to Touchwiz (4.1.2) that arent in Stock (4.4) or on Cyanogen Mod?

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So I have been on Touchwiz 4.1.2 (AxisM RLS 21) for a long time and when the GEL laucher apk came out I installed it on my phone and I fell in love with it as soon as I got it and that got me wondering..."What features of Touchwiz do I actually use?" If I dont use any features of Touchwiz then I want to flash a 4.4 ROM (most likely Cyanogen Mod) on my S3. So my question to you is What features are specific to Touchwiz (4.1.2) that arent in Stock (4.4) or on Cyanogen Mod?
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i suggest holding off 4.4 till next week when CM irons the bugs out on gerhit

Yeah I know I just want to know if I should switch to 4.4 because I dont know which features I use are specific to TouchWiz

NMEAGENT said:
Yeah I know I just want to know if I should switch to 4.4 because I dont know which features I use are specific to TouchWiz
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allcast share (wireless stream to any tv long as its a network tv on wifi or lan ethernet
sbeam?
smart stay
smart rotation

markdapimp said:
allcast share (wireless stream to any tv long as its a network tv on wifi or lan ethernet
sbeam?
smart stay
smart rotation
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That's it? I thought multi window and smart stay were a part of touchWiz too
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NMEAGENT said:
That's it? I thought multi window and smart stay were a part of touchWiz too
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Knox is pretty useful when it comes to us in 4.3

markdapimp said:
Knox is pretty useful when it comes to us in 4.3
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What is Knox? I thought 4.3 was focused on Galaxy Gear compatibility...
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NMEAGENT said:
What is Knox? I thought 4.3 was focused on Galaxy Gear compatibility...
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not just that but knox is like a sandboxed environment essentially separating 2 parts of your phone
for like example 1 work and 1 for development if one of them gets compromised it wont affect the other and you can manage things like remote wipe etc
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...h-support-for-s3-s4-and-note-ii-coming-later/
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/28/samsung-introduces-samsung-knox/

You lose all of the Samsung branded apps, Kies, and the questionable smart stay function. In return, you get complete control of your device. I have tried a few times to go back to a TW rom in the last year (when CM development slows down and I get bored), but it always feels like going back to kindergarten...
I am on sspencer10's 4.4 build and love it. I even am using the new ART and enjoying the best battery life and smooth function that I have ever had. A few CM options have yet to be thrown in, but these guys are moving fast, and this is my daily driver since last week.

AndroidCrusader said:
You lose all of the Samsung branded apps, Kies, and the questionable smart stay function. In return, you get complete control of your device. I have tried a few times to go back to a TW rom in the last year (when CM development slows down and I get bored), but it always feels like going back to kindergarten...
I am on sspencer10's 4.4 build and love it. I even am using the new ART and enjoying the best battery life and smooth function that I have ever had. A few CM options have yet to be thrown in, but these guys are moving fast, and this is my daily driver since last week.
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Can u provide me with a link to sspencer10's 4.4 build?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=1576#downloads
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If you go with aosp give ose ROM a try it has a lot of features and I'm holding off on 4.4 nightlys thought I've had some iemi issues with it
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Liquid Smooth
After months of fearing the rooting process, I pulled the trigger last night and rooted my phone for the first time. I flashed a rom (Liquid Smooth to be specific) and I'm loving it. You should definitely get off of TouchWiz as you'll never want to go back!

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=1576#downloads
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I saw the OP and I saw that the changelog hasnt been updated in a while. If you dont mind can you tell me what are the bugs and whatnot on it?

The OP in that thread is current. He just does not build everyday because CM does not do a lot daily. Others are cherry picking a lot to add features; they also revert a lot of stuff they cannot get to work. Right now, the camera is not ultra reliable, but everything else is great right now. I use nova, tibu, ROM manager, es file explorer, etc. for utility. 200 or so other apps are stable as well.
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AndroidCrusader said:
The OP in that thread is current. He just does not build everyday because CM does not do a lot daily. Others are cherry picking a lot to add features; they also revert a lot of stuff they cannot get to work. Right now, the camera is not ultra reliable, but everything else is great right now. I use nova, tibu, ROM manager, es file explorer, etc. for utility. 200 or so other apps are stable as well.
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Ok thanks... by camera do u mean the default camera app or the camera in general? Because I use snapchat a lot and I obviously need the camera for that
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Stock vs custom..

Hey guys, new to n5 and I dig the stock ROM...would a somewhat stock ROM ie cataclysm be any better..than say stock w/ exposed framework?? I think exposed can give me any tweaks I need...right?
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Better is a relative term.
What is it you're trying to do with your phone?

many roms arent like really develped roms, people just compile it from whats already made then they add mods, using exposed would be just as good in those cases. but some developers actually develop a rom and fix things, they dont just add mods. those roms would be "better" than just using exposed.

Just thinking in terms of updates, etc...I find stock is good... Guess I'm wondering if the mods take performance away.
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Even though I run cataclysm I would recommend staying stock/ rooted and use xposed and either load Xblast or gravity box.

mistahseller said:
Even though I run cataclysm I would recommend staying stock/ rooted and use xposed and either load Xblast or gravity box.
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Why do you say that? Just looking for discussion... I feel android has matured greatly since GB into ics. I've looked at cataclysm.. Seems to have the stock feel with just the right features
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bigbear6708 said:
Why do you say that? Just looking for discussion... I feel android has matured greatly since GB into ics. I've looked at cataclysm.. Seems to have the stock feel with just the right features
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Really, it's down to what you prefer. I just like to stick to stock rom with xposed modules and a custom kernel like franco.

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bigbear6708 said:
Why do you say that? Just looking for discussion... I feel android has matured greatly since GB into ics. I've looked at cataclysm.. Seems to have the stock feel with just the right features
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I say that because there is nothing in cataclysm that I use that isn't available in xposed with gravity box or xblast other than "quicktiles, disables fullscreen keyboard, battery style." As I said nothing not available in xposed. I just don't want to factory reset in all honesty. The only thing I am waiting for with cataclysm is to be able to adjust volume without having to unlock the phone, that is a big gripe of mine.

Thanks man. I'm the same way.. I'm over the whole factory reset.. I'll look into xposed. And stay stock! Thanks again
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Anybody still on KitKat?

Hi there everybody,
I just want to know if there's anybody still running KitKat and if yes, what the reason is for doing so.
I'm on Marshmallow preview 3 right now. I got the Nexus 5 a while after Lollipop was released and I never used KitKat on the N5. I would like to know if the performance/stability/battery life is any better on KitKat compared to Lollipop and Marshmallow.
Thanks in advance.

I am still on kitkat, because I don't want a beta as daily driver, and lollipop make my phone complete freeze a few time, so I go back to KK and play safe.
p.s. the freeze are not due to the memory leak of lollipop, it just freeze when I have too much app multitasking. or sometime coping lot of file using root explorer via samba

psychopnk said:
Hi there everybody,
I just want to know if there's anybody still running KitKat and if yes, what the reason is for doing so.
I'm on Marshmallow preview 3 right now. I got the Nexus 5 a while after Lollipop was released and I never used KitKat on the N5. I would like to know if the performance/stability/battery life is any better on KitKat compared to Lollipop and Marshmallow.
Thanks in advance.
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In my opinion even though i don't use kk anymore it was a much more fluid and snappier experience then L... Also the battery lasted more or less the same..
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and313 said:
In my opinion even though i don't use kk anymore it was a much more fluid and snappier experience then L... Also the battery lasted more or less the same..
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Agree to that

and313 said:
In my opinion even though i don't use kk anymore it was a much more fluid and snappier experience then L... Also the battery lasted more or less the same..
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There's only one bug with notification panel transparency that keeps me from using KitKat.

So why move to lp?

Anderson2 said:
So why move to lp?
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I guess the ui experience. Which is far better and that's it for now. M will bring some decent changes though
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Why buy a nexus if you don't like upgrades?
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I was on KK until about a week ago. I am a user of Slimroms though. Slimkat had all the features I needed, and I have an infant child, so didn't really want to mess around with things too much. He has gotten bigger now, and the Slim team is awesome and have brought many of the functions back on SlimLP. ElementalX is good on it, xposed is working mostly, so I tested it out for a while and made the switch. I tested via multirom, installed SlimLP as secondary, swapped it to primary, installed all my tweaks, tested it for a while, restored all my data from KK rom from the nandroid I took at the beginning of testing, data came back without any major issues, so I decided to stay with it after a few days.
One other reason I stayed on KK so long is that development on LP took some time to come through. Not just the wonderful devs here, but also commercial apps. I believe LP was a update for updates sake, maybe a bridge to M. Hopefully, M will bring out some nice things.

Ben36 said:
Why buy a nexus if you don't like upgrades?
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Update and upgrade are not interchangeable. Many people felt with the roll out of LP it was an update, but not really an upgrade. Even after changing I still think this, thank god for the amazing work of the independent dev community. SlimLP for me, whatever you enjoy for yourself, but stock LP is not an upgrade. Like I said though, hopefully it is a bridge to M where better things might come.
I am not against progress, moving ahead to better things, but I think it is a bit subjective. Who thinks what is better, and so on. LP showed some abilities, but ran into some issues. Once everything adjusts to LP, hopefull, the transition to M will be smooth and great.

Yeah, stay on kitkat and be vulnerable. Jeez
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beekay201 said:
Yeah, stay on kitkat and be vulnerable. Jeez
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Actually you are vulnerable on LP too... until September at least.

Primokorn said:
Actually you are vulnerable on LP too... until September at least.
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To what? Stagefright? Only if stock.
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beekay201 said:
To what? Stagefright? Only if stock.
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Exactly so about 98% of Android users are still vulnerable no matter their Android version.

Wasn't there a 5.1.1 update to patch the Stagefright exploit?
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dkconor said:
Wasn't there a 5.1.1 update to patch the Stagefright exploit?
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That's what I read for stock users: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/0...efright_fix_wont_be_resolved_until_september/