Anybody still on KitKat? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there everybody,
I just want to know if there's anybody still running KitKat and if yes, what the reason is for doing so.
I'm on Marshmallow preview 3 right now. I got the Nexus 5 a while after Lollipop was released and I never used KitKat on the N5. I would like to know if the performance/stability/battery life is any better on KitKat compared to Lollipop and Marshmallow.
Thanks in advance.

I am still on kitkat, because I don't want a beta as daily driver, and lollipop make my phone complete freeze a few time, so I go back to KK and play safe.
p.s. the freeze are not due to the memory leak of lollipop, it just freeze when I have too much app multitasking. or sometime coping lot of file using root explorer via samba

psychopnk said:
Hi there everybody,
I just want to know if there's anybody still running KitKat and if yes, what the reason is for doing so.
I'm on Marshmallow preview 3 right now. I got the Nexus 5 a while after Lollipop was released and I never used KitKat on the N5. I would like to know if the performance/stability/battery life is any better on KitKat compared to Lollipop and Marshmallow.
Thanks in advance.
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In my opinion even though i don't use kk anymore it was a much more fluid and snappier experience then L... Also the battery lasted more or less the same..
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and313 said:
In my opinion even though i don't use kk anymore it was a much more fluid and snappier experience then L... Also the battery lasted more or less the same..
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Agree to that

and313 said:
In my opinion even though i don't use kk anymore it was a much more fluid and snappier experience then L... Also the battery lasted more or less the same..
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There's only one bug with notification panel transparency that keeps me from using KitKat.

So why move to lp?

Anderson2 said:
So why move to lp?
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I guess the ui experience. Which is far better and that's it for now. M will bring some decent changes though
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Why buy a nexus if you don't like upgrades?
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I was on KK until about a week ago. I am a user of Slimroms though. Slimkat had all the features I needed, and I have an infant child, so didn't really want to mess around with things too much. He has gotten bigger now, and the Slim team is awesome and have brought many of the functions back on SlimLP. ElementalX is good on it, xposed is working mostly, so I tested it out for a while and made the switch. I tested via multirom, installed SlimLP as secondary, swapped it to primary, installed all my tweaks, tested it for a while, restored all my data from KK rom from the nandroid I took at the beginning of testing, data came back without any major issues, so I decided to stay with it after a few days.
One other reason I stayed on KK so long is that development on LP took some time to come through. Not just the wonderful devs here, but also commercial apps. I believe LP was a update for updates sake, maybe a bridge to M. Hopefully, M will bring out some nice things.

Ben36 said:
Why buy a nexus if you don't like upgrades?
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Update and upgrade are not interchangeable. Many people felt with the roll out of LP it was an update, but not really an upgrade. Even after changing I still think this, thank god for the amazing work of the independent dev community. SlimLP for me, whatever you enjoy for yourself, but stock LP is not an upgrade. Like I said though, hopefully it is a bridge to M where better things might come.
I am not against progress, moving ahead to better things, but I think it is a bit subjective. Who thinks what is better, and so on. LP showed some abilities, but ran into some issues. Once everything adjusts to LP, hopefull, the transition to M will be smooth and great.

Yeah, stay on kitkat and be vulnerable. Jeez
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beekay201 said:
Yeah, stay on kitkat and be vulnerable. Jeez
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Actually you are vulnerable on LP too... until September at least.

Primokorn said:
Actually you are vulnerable on LP too... until September at least.
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To what? Stagefright? Only if stock.
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beekay201 said:
To what? Stagefright? Only if stock.
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Exactly so about 98% of Android users are still vulnerable no matter their Android version.

Wasn't there a 5.1.1 update to patch the Stagefright exploit?
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dkconor said:
Wasn't there a 5.1.1 update to patch the Stagefright exploit?
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That's what I read for stock users: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/0...efright_fix_wont_be_resolved_until_september/

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[Q] TouchWiz 4.2.2

Guys, did you ever think about porting galaxy s4 rom on our device? that'd be great if you port Touchwiz 4.2.2.
Can't be done. We can get certain apps but not a whole ROM their debloated stock software is 1.4gigs.
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mtdew said:
Can't be done. We can get certain apps but not a whole ROM their debloated stock software is 1.4gigs.
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Oh I see, But that would be great if someone could make that worked. I know that certain apps will not work on our device because of S4's different hardware, but some features like the gestures while in gallery or quick notification when phone is locked will worked because its just the censor on the left side of earpiece, maybe that could worked. I just cant afford s4 so I wish maybe we could get an update of 4.2.2 touchwiz even if other apps or features would not work, I just the love the S4's Rom, that's all.
robeert said:
Oh I see, But that would be great if someone could make that worked. I know that certain apps will not work on our device because of S4's different hardware, but some features like the gestures while in gallery or quick notification when phone is locked will worked because its just the censor on the left side of earpiece, maybe that could worked. I just cant afford s4 so I wish maybe we could get an update of 4.2.2 touchwiz even if other apps or features would not work, I just the love the S4's Rom, that's all.
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We will not get 4.2.2 touchwiz I promise you. Its unlikely you will see half of the features you want actually and its likely going to be due to the fact we aren't on 4.2.2.
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People use touchwiz?
I kid, I kid.. Kind of.
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mtdew said:
We will not get 4.2.2 touchwiz I promise you. Its unlikely you will see half of the features you want actually and its likely going to be due to the fact we aren't on 4.2.2.
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Okay, I'm just asking besides im also waiting on Android 5 (Lime Pie). lol :laugh:
btm fdr said:
People use touchwiz?
I kid, I kid.. Kind of.
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Yes, I use touchwiz, very often. I also use beanstalk rightnow, and i think you should get an update, ive already flash the update of beanstalk last night.
robeert said:
Okay, I'm just asking besides im also waiting on Android 5 (Lime Pie). lol :laugh:
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Also not on the way yet. We are getting 4.3 jellybean.
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uhm, yep. they said that we're not getting an android v5, instead another jellybean which is 4.3. haha I've actually realize that they can't leave out jellybean bec of that awesome rom. ) I wish that there will be more features in 4.3, just like 4.1 to 4.2, many things had change. haha

Samsung Galaxy S4 Android 4.3 official Update

Samsung has started releasing official 4.3 update for Galaxy S4. I have already updated my phone and here is my first impression of Galaxy S4.
The update does feel smooth but not much of the change in terms of interface. Knox does comes to Galaxy S4 with this update.
Most of those things in settings were in 4.2
Still waiting for it in the UK
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Nice review. I'm in the UK and I must admit is a little nicer. Easier on the eyes. Little smoother and the battery is actually really good.
100% 7 am
89% after flashing aokp then flashing tw rom then this 4.3 update tw. Now I'm on 18% after 10 hours. Also played angry birds and Facebook and twitter and used titanium backup.
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Im in the uk
I have the Samsung galaxy s4 i9505 version and I manually installed jellybean 4.3
but my battery as always been bad, I know I use the phone a lot
as anybody got any tips for me to try and get it last longer,
Al Gore said:
Most of those things in settings were in 4.2
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Reading mode, Knox, full screen Internet browser are main addition in this update...rest all were available earlier also....
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Finally 4.3
Any improvements so far?
Any way to create more user profile and restricted profile?
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darushah.shah said:
Any way to create more user profile and restricted profile?
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No, Multi user is not available in this update...
Danilovieira said:
Any improvements so far?
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Transitions are more smooth otherwise there is not much of change in looks and feel...
Small modifications like by default multi window mode, paired window in multi window mode, music soundalive settings have not reached from Note 3...
skrapi said:
Nice review. I'm in the UK and I must admit is a little nicer. Easier on the eyes. Little smoother and the battery is actually really good.
100% 7 am
89% after flashing aokp then flashing tw rom then this 4.3 update tw. Now I'm on 18% after 10 hours. Also played angry birds and Facebook and twitter and used titanium backup.
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Still testing the battery life, updated last night and have 77% after 8 hours with almost 1 hour of screen on...looks an improvement from Android 4.2
Full screen Internet browser!
is it possible to switch to the non full screen mode?
Coz i really need the status bar view and all those notifications :what:
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smep said:
Full screen Internet browser!
is it possible to switch to the non full screen mode?
Coz i really need the status bar view and all those notifications :what:
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Yes, you can change it in settings and get the older look..
Also in full screen mode, notification bar is just not visible. Swapping down from top will still bring the notifications bar...
arnie2012 said:
Im in the uk
I have the Samsung galaxy s4 i9505 version and I manually installed jellybean 4.3
but my battery as always been bad, I know I use the phone a lot
as anybody got any tips for me to try and get it last longer,
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It all depends on the usage but with the official update it looks like an improvement....My battery is lasting longer than Android 4.2
I've been having some various problems with 4.3. I'm probably going back to 4.2.2.
YaKoStar said:
I've been having some various problems with 4.3. I'm probably going back to 4.2.2.
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Are you on the official update or on leaked build?
hi.
did anyone try knox..
what are your views.
G1sanju said:
Still testing the battery life, updated last night and have 77% after 8 hours with almost 1 hour of screen on...looks an improvement from Android 4.2
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Tw 4.3 is awful. This is 4.2 Cm10.1
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Camera lag improved?
Any improvement on the shutter lag with the camera firmware update?
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Tw 4.3 is awful. This is 4.2 Cm10.1
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How high are you?
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[Q] Touchwiz Vs Stock

So I have been on Touchwiz 4.1.2 (AxisM RLS 21) for a long time and when the GEL laucher apk came out I installed it on my phone and I fell in love with it as soon as I got it and that got me wondering..."What features of Touchwiz do I actually use?" If I dont use any features of Touchwiz then I want to flash a 4.4 ROM (most likely Cyanogen Mod) on my S3. So my question to you is What features are specific to Touchwiz (4.1.2) that arent in Stock (4.4) or on Cyanogen Mod?
NMEAGENT said:
So I have been on Touchwiz 4.1.2 (AxisM RLS 21) for a long time and when the GEL laucher apk came out I installed it on my phone and I fell in love with it as soon as I got it and that got me wondering..."What features of Touchwiz do I actually use?" If I dont use any features of Touchwiz then I want to flash a 4.4 ROM (most likely Cyanogen Mod) on my S3. So my question to you is What features are specific to Touchwiz (4.1.2) that arent in Stock (4.4) or on Cyanogen Mod?
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i suggest holding off 4.4 till next week when CM irons the bugs out on gerhit
Yeah I know I just want to know if I should switch to 4.4 because I dont know which features I use are specific to TouchWiz
NMEAGENT said:
Yeah I know I just want to know if I should switch to 4.4 because I dont know which features I use are specific to TouchWiz
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allcast share (wireless stream to any tv long as its a network tv on wifi or lan ethernet
sbeam?
smart stay
smart rotation
markdapimp said:
allcast share (wireless stream to any tv long as its a network tv on wifi or lan ethernet
sbeam?
smart stay
smart rotation
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That's it? I thought multi window and smart stay were a part of touchWiz too
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NMEAGENT said:
That's it? I thought multi window and smart stay were a part of touchWiz too
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Knox is pretty useful when it comes to us in 4.3
markdapimp said:
Knox is pretty useful when it comes to us in 4.3
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What is Knox? I thought 4.3 was focused on Galaxy Gear compatibility...
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NMEAGENT said:
What is Knox? I thought 4.3 was focused on Galaxy Gear compatibility...
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not just that but knox is like a sandboxed environment essentially separating 2 parts of your phone
for like example 1 work and 1 for development if one of them gets compromised it wont affect the other and you can manage things like remote wipe etc
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...h-support-for-s3-s4-and-note-ii-coming-later/
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/28/samsung-introduces-samsung-knox/
You lose all of the Samsung branded apps, Kies, and the questionable smart stay function. In return, you get complete control of your device. I have tried a few times to go back to a TW rom in the last year (when CM development slows down and I get bored), but it always feels like going back to kindergarten...
I am on sspencer10's 4.4 build and love it. I even am using the new ART and enjoying the best battery life and smooth function that I have ever had. A few CM options have yet to be thrown in, but these guys are moving fast, and this is my daily driver since last week.
AndroidCrusader said:
You lose all of the Samsung branded apps, Kies, and the questionable smart stay function. In return, you get complete control of your device. I have tried a few times to go back to a TW rom in the last year (when CM development slows down and I get bored), but it always feels like going back to kindergarten...
I am on sspencer10's 4.4 build and love it. I even am using the new ART and enjoying the best battery life and smooth function that I have ever had. A few CM options have yet to be thrown in, but these guys are moving fast, and this is my daily driver since last week.
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Can u provide me with a link to sspencer10's 4.4 build?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=1576#downloads
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If you go with aosp give ose ROM a try it has a lot of features and I'm holding off on 4.4 nightlys thought I've had some iemi issues with it
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Liquid Smooth
After months of fearing the rooting process, I pulled the trigger last night and rooted my phone for the first time. I flashed a rom (Liquid Smooth to be specific) and I'm loving it. You should definitely get off of TouchWiz as you'll never want to go back!
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AndroidCrusader said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=1576#downloads
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I saw the OP and I saw that the changelog hasnt been updated in a while. If you dont mind can you tell me what are the bugs and whatnot on it?
The OP in that thread is current. He just does not build everyday because CM does not do a lot daily. Others are cherry picking a lot to add features; they also revert a lot of stuff they cannot get to work. Right now, the camera is not ultra reliable, but everything else is great right now. I use nova, tibu, ROM manager, es file explorer, etc. for utility. 200 or so other apps are stable as well.
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AndroidCrusader said:
The OP in that thread is current. He just does not build everyday because CM does not do a lot daily. Others are cherry picking a lot to add features; they also revert a lot of stuff they cannot get to work. Right now, the camera is not ultra reliable, but everything else is great right now. I use nova, tibu, ROM manager, es file explorer, etc. for utility. 200 or so other apps are stable as well.
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Ok thanks... by camera do u mean the default camera app or the camera in general? Because I use snapchat a lot and I obviously need the camera for that
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Stock vs custom..

Hey guys, new to n5 and I dig the stock ROM...would a somewhat stock ROM ie cataclysm be any better..than say stock w/ exposed framework?? I think exposed can give me any tweaks I need...right?
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Better is a relative term.
What is it you're trying to do with your phone?
many roms arent like really develped roms, people just compile it from whats already made then they add mods, using exposed would be just as good in those cases. but some developers actually develop a rom and fix things, they dont just add mods. those roms would be "better" than just using exposed.
Just thinking in terms of updates, etc...I find stock is good... Guess I'm wondering if the mods take performance away.
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Even though I run cataclysm I would recommend staying stock/ rooted and use xposed and either load Xblast or gravity box.
mistahseller said:
Even though I run cataclysm I would recommend staying stock/ rooted and use xposed and either load Xblast or gravity box.
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Why do you say that? Just looking for discussion... I feel android has matured greatly since GB into ics. I've looked at cataclysm.. Seems to have the stock feel with just the right features
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Why do you say that? Just looking for discussion... I feel android has matured greatly since GB into ics. I've looked at cataclysm.. Seems to have the stock feel with just the right features
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Really, it's down to what you prefer. I just like to stick to stock rom with xposed modules and a custom kernel like franco.
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bigbear6708 said:
Why do you say that? Just looking for discussion... I feel android has matured greatly since GB into ics. I've looked at cataclysm.. Seems to have the stock feel with just the right features
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I say that because there is nothing in cataclysm that I use that isn't available in xposed with gravity box or xblast other than "quicktiles, disables fullscreen keyboard, battery style." As I said nothing not available in xposed. I just don't want to factory reset in all honesty. The only thing I am waiting for with cataclysm is to be able to adjust volume without having to unlock the phone, that is a big gripe of mine.
Thanks man. I'm the same way.. I'm over the whole factory reset.. I'll look into xposed. And stay stock! Thanks again
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Are any Marshmallow roms currently any better than SlimLP 0.9 beta for everyday use?

The catalyst marshmallow beta release looks good, but how does it compare to SlimLP beta 0.9? since I'm sticking with SlimLP and due to various reasons their LP work got delayed, is it better to skip LP and go to MM?
Yes, definitely skip it, I'm currently running Cataclysm and its smooth fast and bug free, its developed from a stock rom, so its super smooth, already has features added in, and is probably the best Marshmallow rom out right now
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soupysoup said:
Yes, definitely skip it, I'm currently running Cataclysm and its smooth fast and bug free, its developed from a stock rom, so its super smooth, already has features added in, and is probably the best Marshmallow rom out right now
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great, perfect reply! thanks.
general question then about it, if I save my nova layout / zooperwidgets will my homescreen look the same? or is marshmallow a huge change?
paradoxiumwind said:
great, perfect reply! thanks.
general question then about it, if I save my nova layout / zooperwidgets will my homescreen look the same? or is marshmallow a huge change?
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Nah it will be he same, visually there are no changes, but I can't begin to tell u how smooth it is man, def a good choice, I've been on it since the first release and I love it
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soupysoup said:
Yes, definitely skip it, I'm currently running Cataclysm and its smooth fast and bug free, its developed from a stock rom, so its super smooth, already has features added in, and is probably the best Marshmallow rom out right now
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+1
Cataclysm
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