I have a rooted note 2. Installed Barclays Mobile Banking app which won't work: on the page in Play Store it clearly stated that that app won't work on rooted devices.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.barclays.android.barclaysmobilebanking&hl=en
Why is that? Can I override this restriction? It looks like discrimination of our community.
Notizer said:
I have a rooted note 2. Installed Barclays Mobile Banking app which won't work: on the page in Play Store it clearly stated that that app won't work on rooted devices.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.barclays.android.barclaysmobilebanking&hl=en
Why is that? Can I override this restriction? It looks like discrimination of our community.
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Hi and thank you for using XDA Assist
No, this is not a discrimination at all, it is just a security measure, because you know you're working with the money with that app.
So if you want to use that app, you will need or to remove the root or to use on an other device.
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I came across this bit on wikipedia:
System access and copy protection
Applications developed for distribution on Google Play allow the developer to enable copy protection which prevents the end user from copying the application from the phone. Because the Android Dev Phone allows unrestricted access to the OS, this copy protection is disabled. If the developer enables copy protection on their application, then the application does not appear on Google Play for the Dev Phone.[3]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Dev_Phone#Galaxy_Nexus
Now i was thinking, isnt a rooted phone technically same as developer edition phone? After all they both would have unrestricted access to the OS. Therefore is it so that as my device is rooted I might be missing some apps (though I havent noticed so far!).
shmotog said:
I came across this bit on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Dev_Phone#Galaxy_Nexus
Now i was thinking, isnt a rooted phone technically same as developer edition phone? After all they both would have unrestricted access to the OS. Therefore is it so that as my device is rooted I might be missing some apps (though I havent noticed so far!).
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I don't think so, it should be the opposite, if you have root, you can modify your build.prop to make your device compatible with ALL Apps.
KuGeL94 said:
I don't think so, it should be the opposite, if you have root, you can modify your build.prop to make your device compatible with ALL Apps.
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Do you have a rooted device?
Can you confirm if there are some apps that you cant access (considering, or rather assuming, you havent modified your build.prof, yet).
shmotog said:
Do you have a rooted device?
Can you confirm if there are some apps that you cant access (considering, or rather assuming, you havent modified your build.prof, yet).
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I do have a rooted stock ROM, but havent stumbled across any app that I cant acces, maybe tell me some examples and i will see if i can acces them or not, there are always some apps that arent compatible like high end games or so because the hardware of the moto g isnt powerful enough, gta sa for example
I think apps like play TV & movies won't work, as well as some media streaming apps but not 100% been off the scene a few years.
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mutantlx said:
I think apps like play TV & movies won't work, as well as some media streaming apps but not 100% been off the scene a few years.
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bought a stupid movie by google play just to test, works. hunger games, supposed to be top film, couldnt stand 5 mins of it.
It's possible for an app developer to block installation on rooted devices for a specific app - e.g. the SkyGo (UK TV provider) and Barclays Online Banking app can't be installed on rooted devices. There aren't many though and for those that are blocked you will find a thread somewhere on XDA where clever people have worked away around the restriction or are trying working a way around the restriction.
neu - smurph said:
It's possible for an app developer to block installation on rooted devices for a specific app - e.g. the SkyGo (UK TV provider) and Barclays Online Banking app can't be installed on rooted devices. There aren't many though and for those that are blocked you will find a thread somewhere on XDA where clever people have worked away around the restriction or are trying working a way around the restriction.
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you are absolutely right about barclays. even though i dont have an account there, installed it just to test. quite disappointed.
my own banks app works but i read the fineprint and it said you shouldnt install it on rooted device, against t&c.
this is really depressing
Yep the restrictions on the Barclays app is the main reason I've left my Moto G stock.
What do the T&C's for your own banking app say? As far as I understand iit the worst case scenario is that your not covered for any loss if your bank account is hacked/defrauded AND the bank can categorically prove that the source of the hack was the app on a rooted device.
It does seem a bit ridiculous to me as there is nothing stopping anyone logging in to internet banking via their browser on a rooted phone, or for that matter on a computer in an Internet cafe somewhere which is IMHO far more risky. It's all about due diligence - if your account is defrauded and the bank can prove you haven't taken reasonable care with your bank cards / pin numbers / internet banking / connected apps and that is the cause of the fraud then you don't have the financial protection that you would get otherwise.
shmotog said:
you are absolutely right about barclays. even though i dont have an account there, installed it just to test. quite disappointed.
my own banks app works but i read the fineprint and it said you shouldnt install it on rooted device, against t&c.
this is really depressing
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I think there was a app called rootcloak and it hides root access, or something like that, you need xposed for it to work and if your already rooted might as well install xposed here's the link
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-xposed-tuesday-root-cloak-xda-developer-tv/
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tkelly0727 said:
I think there was a app called rootcloak and it hides root access, or something like that, you need xposed for it to work and if your already rooted might as well install xposed here's the link
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-xposed-tuesday-root-cloak-xda-developer-tv/
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cheers bro ill check that out
neu - smurph said:
Yep the restrictions on the Barclays app is the main reason I've left my Moto G stock.
What do the T&C's for your own banking app say? As far as I understand iit the worst case scenario is that your not covered for any loss if your bank account is hacked/defrauded AND the bank can categorically prove that the source of the hack was the app on a rooted device.
It does seem a bit ridiculous to me as there is nothing stopping anyone logging in to internet banking via their browser on a rooted phone, or for that matter on a computer in an Internet cafe somewhere which is IMHO far more risky. It's all about due diligence - if your account is defrauded and the bank can prove you haven't taken reasonable care with your bank cards / pin numbers / internet banking / connected apps and that is the cause of the fraud then you don't have the financial protection that you would get otherwise.
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Yeah you're absolutely right. However HSBC, the one I'm with, installs fine, but in its terms and conditions it says dont install if youre rooted. So well I uninstalled it before I even logged in with it. I just do banking on my desktop pc now.
Another app I came across that doesnt work in 4OD. At same time BBC iPlayer works.
neu - smurph said:
Yep the restrictions on the Barclays app is the main reason I've left my Moto G stock.
What do the T&C's for your own banking app say? As far as I understand iit the worst case scenario is that your not covered for any loss if your bank account is hacked/defrauded AND the bank can categorically prove that the source of the hack was the app on a rooted device.
It does seem a bit ridiculous to me as there is nothing stopping anyone logging in to internet banking via their browser on a rooted phone, or for that matter on a computer in an Internet cafe somewhere which is IMHO far more risky. It's all about due diligence - if your account is defrauded and the bank can prove you haven't taken reasonable care with your bank cards / pin numbers / internet banking / connected apps and that is the cause of the fraud then you don't have the financial protection that you would get otherwise.
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Could you confirm something for me, have you come across a Call Recorder that works on your moto g? I'm on ANDROREC and it works fine on 4.3 but when I updated to kitkat it stopped. Thats the primary reason why I rooted in first place to have call recorder. Could you check that for me @Neu-smurph?
tkelly0727 said:
I think there was a app called rootcloak and it hides root access, or something like that, you need xposed for it to work and if your already rooted might as well install xposed here's the link
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-xposed-tuesday-root-cloak-xda-developer-tv/
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installed xposed, 4od or barclay still dont work.
shmotog said:
Could you confirm something for me, have you come across a Call Recorder that works on your moto g? I'm on ANDROREC and it works fine on 4.3 but when I updated to kitkat it stopped. Thats the primary reason why I rooted in first place to have call recorder. Could you check that for me @Neu-smurph?
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It installs fine and appears to be working, but the recordings are empty - no audio.
I would like to use Greenify app on my non rooted Moto G and want Greenify some system apps (such as G+, Drive, Play Books etc.) but I am not able to Greenify any system apps.
All I can do is Greenify only those apps installed by me.
How to Greenify system apps without root, as I dont want to root at any cost.
Monsieur_Bond said:
I would like to use Greenify app on my non rooted Moto G and want Greenify some system apps (such as G+, Drive, Play Books etc.) but I am not able to Greenify any system apps.
All I can do is Greenify only those apps installed by me.
How to Greenify system apps without root, as I dont want to root at any cost.
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If You don't used them just disable them. There isn't much more you can do, without root.
Monsieur_Bond said:
I would like to use Greenify app on my non rooted Moto G and want Greenify some system apps (such as G+, Drive, Play Books etc.) but I am not able to Greenify any system apps.
All I can do is Greenify only those apps installed by me.
How to Greenify system apps without root, as I dont want to root at any cost.
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Yes you can greenify all unwanted system apps like maps and YouTube or any other, For that you have to buy greenify donation pack and only after that you can enable experiment feature and after that you can greenify them......
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I stand corrected, sorry.
Ani0o7 said:
Yes you can greenify all unwanted system apps like maps and YouTube or any other, For that you have to buy greenify donation pack and only after that you can enable experiment feature and after that you can greenify them......
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But without root will work?
I mean the donation package, will it work without root? In its description in play store it says its for root only.
If you or anyone is using it without root please let me know.
Monsieur_Bond said:
But without root will work?
I mean the donation package, will it work without root? In its description in play store it says its for root only.
If you or anyone is using it without root please let me know.
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You need root for any app installed in /system/app and /system/priv-app. That applies even if you download updates for such an app.
Greenify w/o root is not very effective, it actually needs xposed module to work properly for system apps.
The paid version needs root too.
Without root, you can only hibernate apps installed by yourself and that's about it.
Monsieur_Bond said:
But without root will work?
I mean the donation package, will it work without root? In its description in play store it says its for root only.
If you or anyone is using it without root please let me know.
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Yes it works, I am using beta 9 version of greenify with donation package and I am able to use it without a single problem and I am on non rooted device, it treat user apps and system app in same manner as you know the principal of greenify it creates a widget on home screen and when you click on it, you will close all running apps by force closing it, yes its a experimental feature and even play store talk about "SOME EXPERIMENT FEATURES (REQUIRE ROOT)" that means not all features required root but still I happy with it, it does what it says..... It greenify system app....
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Ani0o7 said:
Yes it works, I am using beta 9 version of greenify with donation package and I am able to use it without a single problem and I am on non rooted device, it treat user apps and system app in same manner as you know the principal of greenify it creates a widget on home screen and when you click on it, you will close all running apps by force closing it, yes its a experimental feature and even play store talk about "SOME EXPERIMENT FEATURES (REQUIRE ROOT)" that means not all features required root but still I happy with it, it does what it says..... It greenify system app....
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OK Mate, I will give the donation pack a try.
I will risk 100 bucks.
Monsieur_Bond said:
OK Mate, I will give the donation pack a try.
I will risk 100 bucks.
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Go on buddy, worth spending
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Ani0o7 said:
Go on buddy, worth spending
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Can you please let me know which all system apps are available to be Greenified.
A list and screenshot will be very helpful.
System apps which I want to Greenify are:
Calculator
Drive
FM
Google
Google Settings
Google+
Help
Motorola Migrate
Photos
Play Books
Play Games
Play Movies
Play News Stand
YouTube
Are all these system apps available to be Greenified after installing donation package.
List of my greenified apps
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List of my greenified apps
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Thanks Mate.
How to get Google Play Gift Vouchers so that I can redeem them for app purchase?
While messing around my phone I noticed that my Chase Bank mobile application requested super user access. Of course I hit DENY.
However I find it very ironic that the application would know to even ask for Root. This sounds like a malicious act created by the developer of the app.
I have just notified Chase and Google about this.
it's possible they are trying to use root to detect if your phone is rooted... or something along those lines. there are some mobile banking apps that will not run on a rooted phone.
autoprime said:
it's possible they are trying to use root to detect if your phone is rooted... or something along those lines. there are some mobile banking apps that will not run on a rooted phone.
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Oh really? I never knew that about the Banking apps.... Well I guess by me denying the app access it took that for an official no.
Hello, does anyone know of an app to change the device for the Play Store? I tried changing the build prop to fake the device to the G1841 and S8 and it was a failure. I am currently using the g1842 and would like to be able to use my banks app and moviepass. Thanks.
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Hello, does anyone know of an app to change the device for the Play Store? I tried changing the build prop to fake the device to the G1841 and S8 and it was a failure. I am currently using the g1842 and would like to be able to use my banks app and moviepass. Thanks.
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You could try mock location in developer options. Try googling it to see how it works. If that doesnt help then you can either newflash a region firmware for your G8142 the one you need or you may have to ask you bank to see if they can help. If you in the correct country anyway then I cant see why the model being G814 and not G8141 should matter. Chaning the device model in build prop most likely wont do anything if its location related.
rizzyrailed said:
Hello, does anyone know of an app to change the device for the Play Store? I tried changing the build prop to fake the device to the G1841 and S8 and it was a failure. I am currently using the g1842 and would like to be able to use my banks app and moviepass. Thanks.
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If your phone is rooted or the bootloader is unlocked the banking apps wont work.
I'm not too sure about that, all of my credit cards apps work. Those apps are for managing cards and bank accounts.
rizzyrailed said:
I'm not too sure about that, all of my credit cards apps work. Those apps are for managing cards and bank accounts.
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It can depend on the app. I know in the UK that with root the nationwide banking app works but the Loyds banking app is blocked by root in the same sort of way android pay is blocked by root.
So I came across what seems to be a fairly new app called island. Magisk hide doesn't work for my bank app and previously Pokemon go. This island copies any app you choose to it's "island" and I was able to use the bank app rooted. Any reasons why this app isn't any good?
Amazing app
Works great for me as well....
Doesn't work for me, CNN and Staples app still detect root on my Oneplus 7 Pro.
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Unfortunately not working for me either. Root still being detected by certain apps
Worked with my bank for some time (DKB Tan2Go App) but now it doesnt work anymore, root detected again
This war against rooted devices is really stupid...
It's a new detection method. Island won't help. If you can live with out modules here's a link explaining the situation and lite version of magisk. https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/issues/2406