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I came across this bit on wikipedia:
System access and copy protection
Applications developed for distribution on Google Play allow the developer to enable copy protection which prevents the end user from copying the application from the phone. Because the Android Dev Phone allows unrestricted access to the OS, this copy protection is disabled. If the developer enables copy protection on their application, then the application does not appear on Google Play for the Dev Phone.[3]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Dev_Phone#Galaxy_Nexus
Now i was thinking, isnt a rooted phone technically same as developer edition phone? After all they both would have unrestricted access to the OS. Therefore is it so that as my device is rooted I might be missing some apps (though I havent noticed so far!).
shmotog said:
I came across this bit on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Dev_Phone#Galaxy_Nexus
Now i was thinking, isnt a rooted phone technically same as developer edition phone? After all they both would have unrestricted access to the OS. Therefore is it so that as my device is rooted I might be missing some apps (though I havent noticed so far!).
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I don't think so, it should be the opposite, if you have root, you can modify your build.prop to make your device compatible with ALL Apps.
KuGeL94 said:
I don't think so, it should be the opposite, if you have root, you can modify your build.prop to make your device compatible with ALL Apps.
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Do you have a rooted device?
Can you confirm if there are some apps that you cant access (considering, or rather assuming, you havent modified your build.prof, yet).
shmotog said:
Do you have a rooted device?
Can you confirm if there are some apps that you cant access (considering, or rather assuming, you havent modified your build.prof, yet).
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I do have a rooted stock ROM, but havent stumbled across any app that I cant acces, maybe tell me some examples and i will see if i can acces them or not, there are always some apps that arent compatible like high end games or so because the hardware of the moto g isnt powerful enough, gta sa for example
I think apps like play TV & movies won't work, as well as some media streaming apps but not 100% been off the scene a few years.
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mutantlx said:
I think apps like play TV & movies won't work, as well as some media streaming apps but not 100% been off the scene a few years.
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bought a stupid movie by google play just to test, works. hunger games, supposed to be top film, couldnt stand 5 mins of it.
It's possible for an app developer to block installation on rooted devices for a specific app - e.g. the SkyGo (UK TV provider) and Barclays Online Banking app can't be installed on rooted devices. There aren't many though and for those that are blocked you will find a thread somewhere on XDA where clever people have worked away around the restriction or are trying working a way around the restriction.
neu - smurph said:
It's possible for an app developer to block installation on rooted devices for a specific app - e.g. the SkyGo (UK TV provider) and Barclays Online Banking app can't be installed on rooted devices. There aren't many though and for those that are blocked you will find a thread somewhere on XDA where clever people have worked away around the restriction or are trying working a way around the restriction.
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you are absolutely right about barclays. even though i dont have an account there, installed it just to test. quite disappointed.
my own banks app works but i read the fineprint and it said you shouldnt install it on rooted device, against t&c.
this is really depressing
Yep the restrictions on the Barclays app is the main reason I've left my Moto G stock.
What do the T&C's for your own banking app say? As far as I understand iit the worst case scenario is that your not covered for any loss if your bank account is hacked/defrauded AND the bank can categorically prove that the source of the hack was the app on a rooted device.
It does seem a bit ridiculous to me as there is nothing stopping anyone logging in to internet banking via their browser on a rooted phone, or for that matter on a computer in an Internet cafe somewhere which is IMHO far more risky. It's all about due diligence - if your account is defrauded and the bank can prove you haven't taken reasonable care with your bank cards / pin numbers / internet banking / connected apps and that is the cause of the fraud then you don't have the financial protection that you would get otherwise.
shmotog said:
you are absolutely right about barclays. even though i dont have an account there, installed it just to test. quite disappointed.
my own banks app works but i read the fineprint and it said you shouldnt install it on rooted device, against t&c.
this is really depressing
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I think there was a app called rootcloak and it hides root access, or something like that, you need xposed for it to work and if your already rooted might as well install xposed here's the link
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-xposed-tuesday-root-cloak-xda-developer-tv/
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tkelly0727 said:
I think there was a app called rootcloak and it hides root access, or something like that, you need xposed for it to work and if your already rooted might as well install xposed here's the link
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-xposed-tuesday-root-cloak-xda-developer-tv/
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cheers bro ill check that out
neu - smurph said:
Yep the restrictions on the Barclays app is the main reason I've left my Moto G stock.
What do the T&C's for your own banking app say? As far as I understand iit the worst case scenario is that your not covered for any loss if your bank account is hacked/defrauded AND the bank can categorically prove that the source of the hack was the app on a rooted device.
It does seem a bit ridiculous to me as there is nothing stopping anyone logging in to internet banking via their browser on a rooted phone, or for that matter on a computer in an Internet cafe somewhere which is IMHO far more risky. It's all about due diligence - if your account is defrauded and the bank can prove you haven't taken reasonable care with your bank cards / pin numbers / internet banking / connected apps and that is the cause of the fraud then you don't have the financial protection that you would get otherwise.
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Yeah you're absolutely right. However HSBC, the one I'm with, installs fine, but in its terms and conditions it says dont install if youre rooted. So well I uninstalled it before I even logged in with it. I just do banking on my desktop pc now.
Another app I came across that doesnt work in 4OD. At same time BBC iPlayer works.
neu - smurph said:
Yep the restrictions on the Barclays app is the main reason I've left my Moto G stock.
What do the T&C's for your own banking app say? As far as I understand iit the worst case scenario is that your not covered for any loss if your bank account is hacked/defrauded AND the bank can categorically prove that the source of the hack was the app on a rooted device.
It does seem a bit ridiculous to me as there is nothing stopping anyone logging in to internet banking via their browser on a rooted phone, or for that matter on a computer in an Internet cafe somewhere which is IMHO far more risky. It's all about due diligence - if your account is defrauded and the bank can prove you haven't taken reasonable care with your bank cards / pin numbers / internet banking / connected apps and that is the cause of the fraud then you don't have the financial protection that you would get otherwise.
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Could you confirm something for me, have you come across a Call Recorder that works on your moto g? I'm on ANDROREC and it works fine on 4.3 but when I updated to kitkat it stopped. Thats the primary reason why I rooted in first place to have call recorder. Could you check that for me @Neu-smurph?
tkelly0727 said:
I think there was a app called rootcloak and it hides root access, or something like that, you need xposed for it to work and if your already rooted might as well install xposed here's the link
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-xposed-tuesday-root-cloak-xda-developer-tv/
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installed xposed, 4od or barclay still dont work.
shmotog said:
Could you confirm something for me, have you come across a Call Recorder that works on your moto g? I'm on ANDROREC and it works fine on 4.3 but when I updated to kitkat it stopped. Thats the primary reason why I rooted in first place to have call recorder. Could you check that for me @Neu-smurph?
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It installs fine and appears to be working, but the recordings are empty - no audio.
What is different in security for cyanogenmod and normal android?
Is cyanogenmod has google spyware?
Thank you
arexium said:
What is different in security for cyanogenmod and normal android?
Is cyanogenmod has google spyware?
Thank you
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No, cyanogenmod does not have google apps. For more info: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps
Even if they don't use google apps, they have their own spyware. For more how to secure your device see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/tuto-how-to-secure-phone-t2960077
setmov said:
No, cyanogenmod does not have google apps. For more info: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps
Even if they don't use google apps, they have their own spyware. For more how to secure your device see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/tuto-how-to-secure-phone-t2960077
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This hard for apply and may be not work for my phone
You know easy way?
You thinks not use smart phone and also not use android better?
Only normal phone and for internet only use computer?
Different idea, if you have only text secure app on phone and cyanogenmod how they spy and see message?
Thank you
arexium said:
This hard for apply and may be not work for my phone
You know easy way?
You thinks not use smart phone and also not use android better?
Only normal phone and for internet only use computer?
Different idea, if you have only text secure app on phone and cyanogenmod how they spy and see message?
Thank you
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I suggest you take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550769
setmov said:
I suggest you take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550769
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This good, I check it
What you think this one please, Replicant OS?
arexium said:
This good, I check it
What you think this one please, Replicant OS?
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What phone do you have?
setmov said:
What phone do you have?
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This lenovo a5000
What you think Replicant OS, good one? I changes phone if this good one
arexium said:
This lenovo a5000
What you think Replicant OS, good one? I changes phone if this good one
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Honestly I haven't tried it, so I don't know. But, what are you looking for? A secure rom, or just a rom without google apps?
setmov said:
Honestly I haven't tried it, so I don't know. But, what are you looking for? A secure rom, or just a rom without google apps?
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Yes I want secure ROM even if not work on my phone, I can change phone
arexium said:
Yes I want secure ROM even if not work on my phone, I can change phone
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Then, I suggest you to be patient. There will be some news soon.
try AFWall Donate version, XPrivacy, AppOps, MyAndroidTools Pro, ChatSecure, Orbot, Network Connections or Network Log App in playstore, override DNS app, SD Maid, Firefox browser...these are all good apps known for supporting end-user privacy or for strong root level management of your system. It really depends on what type of "secure" youre interested in. Android is relatively secure security-wise, but privacy-wise, not so much... actually in its default state, not at all, especially with google inside. Knowing your settings, and config, almost any ROM can be secure.
arexium said:
Yes I want secure ROM even if not work on my phone, I can change phone
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If you are willing to switch to a Nexus 5 we (Graphite Software) have posted a ROM (Secure Spaces) that allows you to create a separate space (virtual phone) where you can easily configure the settings (enable and disable a number of attributes - bluetooth , networking, adb, etc). Also you can remove the Google Play apps in this personal or hidden space, but allow the owner space to still have Google Apps if you want. This new space is encrypted using ecryptfs and also has pid namespaces enabled in the kernel, plus some additional security features. You can push apps into this space to limit their access to the owner space , or you can think of this space as a private space where maybe you launch only a banking app for example.
ElwOOd_CbGp said:
try AFWall Donate version, XPrivacy, AppOps, MyAndroidTools Pro, ChatSecure, Orbot, Network Connections or Network Log App in playstore, override DNS app, SD Maid, Firefox browser...these are all good apps known for supporting end-user privacy or for strong root level management of your system. It really depends on what type of "secure" youre interested in. Android is relatively secure security-wise, but privacy-wise, not so much... actually in its default state, not at all, especially with google inside. Knowing your settings, and config, almost any ROM can be secure.
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Sounds like a good start to helping secure my android, but how do you use the apps effectively?
Thanks
talkcc144 said:
Sounds like a good start to helping secure my android, but how do you use the apps effectively?
Thanks
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All I can say is do what I did. Check them out. Read, follow instructions, experiment. Android may come shipped with some functionalities disabled but the capability is there...in a major way. You just have to take the time to learn. Familiarize yourself with settings, apps, services, device signals.
According to facebook report over my mail, someone has entered in to my fb via Xperia XA, Saratoga, CALIFORNIA, US. I am at Europe.
Most likely i was blocked because my phone Ip have changed somehow.Now i cant enter in to my account with msnger and facebook (only from browser) app on my phone. Think the security system is blocking my phone.
Ps: i had to swap Wifi with 4g in order to get access.
Did you use any vpn to access Fb?
Think not, just standart office Wifi connection. And i just check , my office location (according to my laptop is Europe), but according to my phone 4g i am at California ,Saratoga. So whats going on ?
Its something from the phone system, i changed the firmware few days ago, and the phone is encrypted now, so maybe its forcing the apps to connect via VPN network, or who knows...
really ?? my phones comes with greek firmware and now I use south Africa firmware !! is there any problem ?
Have you some apps from unofficial markets like Aptoide? Have you some apps downloaded from file-sharing links or P2P? If yes, don't search away, you probably have a malicious app.
If you are rooted, use a permission manager app, Xprivacy is good for that and allow blocking strange permissions (Facebook, Google accounts, contacts, device ident, ... for an app who don't need them).
rrvuhpg said:
Have you some apps from unofficial markets like Aptoide? Have you some apps downloaded from file-sharing links or P2P? If yes, don't search away, you probably have a malicious app.
If you are rooted, use a permission manager app, Xprivacy is good for that and allow blocking strange permissions (Facebook, Google accounts, contacts, device ident, ... for an app who don't need them).
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Might have some. How to detect which one is virus ?
hp6830s said:
Might have some. How to detect which one is virus ?
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1) Try to re-download apps from trusted sources.
2) Try AVG app integrated in the device to scan it.
3) Use Xprivacy and block unnecessary permissions on suspicious apps, make some test (block/unblock) to understand what mean each permissions. For sample, a game generally don't need root, phone contacts or SMS and needs sensors, storage and Internet.
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3) Use Xprivacy and block unnecessary permissions on suspicious apps, make some test (block/unblock) to understand what mean each permissions. For sample, a game generally don't need root, phone contacts or SMS and needs sensors, storage and Internet.
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nICE,will try that ,got some apps which are not suitable for my device. Think they might be suspicious.
So Xprivacy installs xFrame too ?
hp6830s said:
nICE,will try that ,got some apps which are not suitable for my device. Think they might be suspicious.
So Xprivacy installs xFrame too ?
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Not suitable ?? Big targets to be suspicious are warez/cracked apps.
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Not suitable ?? Big targets to be suspicious are warez/cracked apps.
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One reason I'll never use apps like that in the first place. Just asking for trouble.
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aidy.lucas said:
One reason I'll never use apps like that in the first place. Just asking for trouble.
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if you know what the app is its ok I think !
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Not suitable ?? Big targets to be suspicious are warez/cracked apps.
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yea few which i was trying to connect a DSLR and use the phone for shutter remote.
It looks like i have already removed the antivirus app.
I recently picked up a dji osmo 3 - a stabilizer gimbal.
I do not know why, but the app demands location access. It will not allow you to use the app if you do not grant it. I even tried granting permission and then while using the app revoking permission - the app then prompts you again for location access without anyway to denying access and still use the app.
I was wondering if there's some way to make the app think it has location access? Maybe just feed it a bogus set of GPS coords?
I'm guessing there is, but I'm also guessing I need to at least be rooted, which i am not. I'm using a Note 10+ 5g with verizon, not rooted/stock rom.
I'd conside rooting the phone though if that's required.
Thanks
merkk said:
I recently picked up a dji osmo 3 - a stabilizer gimbal.
I do not know why, but the app demands location access. It will not allow you to use the app if you do not grant it. I even tried granting permission and then while using the app revoking permission - the app then prompts you again for location access without anyway to denying access and still use the app.
I was wondering if there's some way to make the app think it has location access? Maybe just feed it a bogus set of GPS coords?
I'm guessing there is, but I'm also guessing I need to at least be rooted, which i am not. I'm using a Note 10+ 5g with verizon, not rooted/stock rom.
I'd conside rooting the phone though if that's required.
Thanks
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I think you'll find that interesting.
For your original question I don't think it's possible, but check the link
merkk said:
I recently picked up a dji osmo 3 - a stabilizer gimbal.
I do not know why, but the app demands location access. It will not allow you to use the app if you do not grant it. I even tried granting permission and then while using the app revoking permission - the app then prompts you again for location access without anyway to denying access and still use the app.
I was wondering if there's some way to make the app think it has location access? Maybe just feed it a bogus set of GPS coords?
I'm guessing there is, but I'm also guessing I need to at least be rooted, which i am not. I'm using a Note 10+ 5g with verizon, not rooted/stock rom.
I'd conside rooting the phone though if that's required.
Thanks
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Yes, it is commonly used on android, it is called "mock location".
There is more than one way or more than one app/tool that can be used. To find the method/app/tool that works best for you, do a google search for:
"Setup mock location on android"
Try the different methods that you find until one of them works for you.
As for rooting your device, if you got the device from Verizon, you probably won't be able to root the device because Verizon's devices all have locked bootloaders. The only way you would be able to root is if one of the universal rooting apps or rooting programs just happens to have an exploit that works on your device, but even that is a very slim chance because those kinds of apps and programs pretty much lost their effectiveness somewhere between android Marshmallow and Oreo.
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Raiz said:
I think you'll find that interesting.
For your original question I don't think it's possible, but check the link
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I'm sorry - check which link?
merkk said:
I'm sorry - check which link?
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Idk why and how it has been removed, here it is : https://www.wired.co.uk/article/x-privacy-android-app
Usually mods leave a note when a link is forbidden, but I'll advice you to follow the more complete answer from Droidriven.
Search for "mock location for Android" on google
Raiz said:
Idk why and how it has been removed, here it is : https://www.wired.co.uk/article/x-privacy-android-app
Usually mods leave a note when a link is forbidden, but I'll advice you to follow the more complete answer from Droidriven.
Search for "mock location for Android" on google
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Thanks, i'm doing that. Although so far using mock location seems to be an all or nothing approach - meaning EVERYTHING has a fake location or everything has the real location. I just want the one dji app to have fake data. Looks like the app you linked to is what i want, although it's outdated now. And requires root, which driodriven says I may not be able to do on my phone. I'll have to look into it further.
FYI, i found a link to an updated version of xprivacy - https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xprivacylua6-0-android-privacy-manager-t3730663 - i haven't found out yet if this new version requires the phone to be rooted...considering all it does i'd be surprised if it didn't.
merkk said:
Thanks, i'm doing that. Although so far using mock location seems to be an all or nothing approach - meaning EVERYTHING has a fake location or everything has the real location. I just want the one dji app to have fake data. Looks like the app you linked to is what i want, although it's outdated now. And requires root, which driodriven says I may not be able to do on my phone. I'll have to look into it further.
FYI, i found a link to an updated version of xprivacy - https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xprivacylua6-0-android-privacy-manager-t3730663 - i haven't found out yet if this new version requires the phone to be rooted...considering all it does i'd be surprised if it didn't.
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I'm not sure there is a way to make it apply to individual apps separately.
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I have 2 phones (same model) one rooted and the other one isn't. I have the same game installed on both phones, but when I open tapjoy on the rooted phone no offers for downloading apps or app actions appear, but on my non-rooted phone they do... So I really believe that tapjoy is somehow detecting root (I did magisk hide and safetynet pass).
All though I'm pretty sure tapjoy isdetecting root I did notice one weird thing on my rooted phone, when I search for "Alarmy" on Google Play it doesn't show up, but on my non-rooted phone it shows up in the play store (again same phone model and same android version! Android 11), this fact makes me uncertain if tapjoy is detecting root or not.
Does anyone know a solution or know what's going on?
Whether a phone's Android got rooted ( tampered in whatever way ) or not can easily be detected by any app.
People shouldn't believe that app developers aren't smart enough to detect it: they simply have to look inside vbmeta files and check for content of 2 bytes on fixed address.
jwoegerbauer said:
Whether a phone's Android got rooted ( tampered in whatever way ) or not can easily be detected by any app.
People shouldn't believe that app developers aren't smart enough to detect it.
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Yes, but there would still be a workaround.
What explains the Alarmy situation though? Alarmy doesn't show up in the Google Play Store before the app is installed
Zontraz said:
Yes, but there would still be a workaround.
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If you say so ...
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If you say so ...
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It's obvious there would be a workaround, I was just hoping someone here knew it. If you know the exact method that they use to detect root it would be easy to make a workaround depending on the method.
I don't know what method is used in Tapjoy: it would require to decompile the APK and to look into app's source code.
FYI: I will certainly not do that.