I'm giving up.. going stock. - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S6

Hey all,
Right now I am on CleanROM 1.5 and it runs good minus the pre 5.1.1 memory leak issues and pre samsung memory management issues.
Battery life was a solid 17 hours or more.
I am going to update this with my experience on memory management, battery life and anything else in case anyone else is wondering if it is worth making the switch.
To the people who are stock.. what are the recommendations ? Can I run any debloat scripts? Any threads on what is safe to de-bloat?

i went back to stock and it seems better than when i was running a rom. running 5.1.1 smoothly with no flaws, getting about a days worth of solid battery life and no problems with anything. i gave up on rooting samsung devices. just seems like there is to much to go through every time you want to do something and it doesn't seem like there is to much development for this device with the locked bootloader and all only so much can be done

I've been thinking about doing the same, think I might just do it tonight.

THADDIUS25 said:
I've been thinking about doing the same, think I might just do it tonight.
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I did it Friday night. No regrets at all.
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Same here on Sat night
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So here is what I did.. I ODIN'ed the 0E2 Tar and it did NOT wipe my device which I should it would. Then I let it upgrade to the latest 0G9. I wiped system cache via recovery and it seems okay.
Do you guys recommended a factory reset?
Also.. there is that debloater tool.. anyone have a list of good apps to debloat that is safe? I disabled some stuff but I am sure there is much more that can be done.

musicfreak190 said:
So here is what I did.. I ODIN'ed the 0E2 Tar and it did NOT wipe my device which I should it would. Then I let it upgrade to the latest 0G9. I wiped system cache via recovery and it seems okay.
Do you guys recommended a factory reset?
Also.. there is that debloater tool.. anyone have a list of good apps to debloat that is safe? I disabled some stuff but I am sure there is much more that can be done.
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I factory reset personally, but download package disabler from the play store and it has a list to automatically debloat. And then you can go back enable anything that you did need.
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MrWicked1 said:
I factory reset personally, but download package disabler from the play store and it has a list to automatically debloat. And then you can go back enable anything that you did need.
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Thank you!

Right now I'm rooted on 5.0.2, OE2 baseband. Can someone give me directions for going back to stock so I can flash 5.1.1?
Also, how did you guys back up your apps since Titanium won't work on non root devices.
Thanks for any help.
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I'm doing the same right now. I really liked clean rom light but if I was in my car I couldn't run Google Maps/Pandora and then go into messaging or gmail without one of those two apps shutting down. I'm hoping 5.1.1 will improve this.

tazman19 said:
Right now I'm rooted on 5.0.2, OE2 baseband. Can someone give me directions for going back to stock so I can flash 5.1.1?
Also, how did you guys back up your apps since Titanium won't work on non root devices.
Thanks for any help.
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Looking for this as well

tazman19 said:
Right now I'm rooted on 5.0.2, OE2 baseband. Can someone give me directions for going back to stock so I can flash 5.1.1?
Also, how did you guys back up your apps since Titanium won't work on non root devices.
Thanks for any help.
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Head over to the general section and download Odin and the tar file for OE2 and flash it is ongoing your pc. Then I used smart switch to upgrade. I didn't back up any apps so can't help you there I've never seen any decent back up apps for non root.
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I completely agree. I've been mulling over this for a long time now as well. I guess if I want device support, then I need to go to the iPhone.

I decided to once again factory reset a couple of hours ago. Sucks that this thing slows down and stutters so much. I had already disabled a ton on stuff using Disabler app. I'm going to run on stock launcher and just a few apps for a bit before I decide whether to suffer thru or just sell it. Maybe Marshmallow will help in about 6 months when Samsung/Verizon release it. Damn. I should've kept my S4 running a bit longer. It did better than this S6. What the hell Samsung?

well...I decided to join you guys. (upgrading now) i hope i don't regret this! haha
let's just hope Marshmallow can be rooted!!!

el6006 said:
I decided to once again factory reset a couple of hours ago. Sucks that this thing slows down and stutters so much. I had already disabled a ton on stuff using Disabler app. I'm going to run on stock launcher and just a few apps for a bit before I decide whether to suffer thru or just sell it. Maybe Marshmallow will help in about 6 months when Samsung/Verizon release it. Damn. I should've kept my S4 running a bit longer. It did better than this S6. What the hell Samsung?
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Surprised your having so much trouble, no lag here and pretty decent battery life with everything I have disabled.
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el6006 said:
I decided to once again factory reset a couple of hours ago. Sucks that this thing slows down and stutters so much. I had already disabled a ton on stuff using Disabler app. I'm going to run on stock launcher and just a few apps for a bit before I decide whether to suffer thru or just sell it. Maybe Marshmallow will help in about 6 months when Samsung/Verizon release it. Damn. I should've kept my S4 running a bit longer. It did better than this S6. What the hell Samsung?
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I have had 0 issues since going to stock 5.1.1. Running smooth and fast.
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el6006 said:
I decided to once again factory reset a couple of hours ago. Sucks that this thing slows down and stutters so much. I had already disabled a ton on stuff using Disabler app. I'm going to run on stock launcher and just a few apps for a bit before I decide whether to suffer thru or just sell it. Maybe Marshmallow will help in about 6 months when Samsung/Verizon release it. Damn. I should've kept my S4 running a bit longer. It did better than this S6. What the hell Samsung?
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You consider maybe your unit is bad. Because let's be real. Saying the s4 could outperform this device is pure rubbish.

Gizmoe said:
You consider maybe your unit is bad. Because let's be real. Saying the s4 could outperform this device is pure rubbish.
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Don't think so. It starts out great every time I restore to stock but quickly degrades in performance. Since the last update, OG9, and having reset it yet again the other night, it is working somewhat better. Its not as laggy as before. I don't know maybe its all in my head. I just think that sometimes, the stuttering is just not making any sense. Google Plus lags and stutters, Gmail lags at times, Hangouts also, Firefox, Chrome,..... It works fine after a restore.

el6006 said:
I should've kept my S4 running a bit longer.
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I had a S6 for 13 days and returned it and went back to my S4. The S6 was definitely a better device performance wise but I wasn't impressed enough with it and I could do everything on my S4 that I need to do just as well. I bought my S4 a year after it was released so it's not as old as some. I also went to stock on my S4 after being rooted since I had it and did a factory reset. Feels like I have a new phone. I'm going to wait and see what the S7 is going to be like.

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Getting My Galaxy SIII tomorrow...just wanted to say hi :)

Damn...my third Android device and a completely new dev community. Just wanted to drop by and say hi and I am looking forward to these next few months(we know new phones come out all the time) with you guys.
Welcome! Some of the best advice I can give is back up your IMEI before you start flashing roms, Synergy has a nice backup built into their rom install that's pretty nice.
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Clienterror said:
Welcome! Some of the best advice I can give is back up your IMEI before you start flashing roms, Synergy has a nice backup built into their rom install that's pretty nice.
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+1 on the IMEI backup
LosEquisMan said:
+1 on the IMEI backup
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What is this IMEI backup you speak of? Lol. I'm getting a galaxy s 3 today. Never owned a Samsung, android anyways. Always had HTC for rooting
Welcome! You will be extremely happy with the phone itself, and the amount of developer it is receiving now that the bootloader is unlocked.
As usual, make sure you back everything up before flashing ROMS and enjoy!
I do have one question, I have rooted my SG3, but left the bootloader unlocked. Should I worry about my IMEI getting corrupted?
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What is this IMEI backup you speak of? Lol. I'm getting a galaxy s 3 today. Never owned a Samsung, android anyways. Always had HTC for rooting
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It's when you back up the cell information I think. If it gets erased you won't be able to connect to anything at all.
SubaruCop said:
I do have one question, I have rooted my SG3, but left the bootloader unlocked. Should I worry about my IMEI getting corrupted?
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I read its best to do it period. People flashing aosp have been losing it more commonly. Unless I'm reading old threads.
Synergized GS3
I still have to get used to this phone...this is going to sound weird...but using it makes me feel as if I'm in a foreign place
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I am also getting my S3 either tomorrow or Friday. Just couldn't take the GNEX anymore.
Looking forward to the new community although the GNEX community has been one of the best I have seen so far with the least amount of trolls and fights.
People using great phone have to be great
Never mind it was a joke. And congrats on your SIII.
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My phone arrived yesterday at 2:30
2:40 activated
2:50 Rooted and Unlocked
2:55 TWRP installed and stock backed up
3:10 Paranoid 2.0 and JB gapps installed
3:15 KT Kernal installed
3:30 Best Android experience I've had yet (including Thunderbolt, Gnex, and N7)
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My phone arrived yesterday at 2:30
2:40 activated
2:50 Rooted and Unlocked
2:55 TWRP installed and stock backed up
3:10 Paranoid 2.0 and JB gapps installed
3:15 KT Kernal installed
3:30 Best Android experience I've had yet (including Thunderbolt, Gnex, and N7)
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That's almost exactly what I did with mine yesterday....I say almost because I received mine about an hour later
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I just received mine today and ws thinking to run it stock for a few days to make sure it runs good and this way I cannot blame anything on rooting it.
I remember with the SGS2 on Sprint, after we rooted it it caused a lot of radio issues. Samsung eventually fixed that.
Very hard to hold out though. I do want to run stock Rom rooted as I think it has a lot of cool features. I have been running Jelly Bean on my GNEX for a while now and the 2 things I really liked was Google Now and the new notifications.
I see running CM10 might cause IMEI issues but we can back that up in terminal emulator I see. Once we have that backed up is there anything else one needs to worry about or that is really the only issue that can make our device useless.......
I assume if we stay with TW roms there are no issues with the IMEI? If the IMEI gets messed up, will you know from your data just not working?
I hate getting a device after it has been out a little while! I like to to be there from the beginning and learn with everyone else. Now I feel like I have so much catching up to do!!!
I appreciate everyone's input and help and boy this phone eats my Nexus for lunch, dinner and breakfast!
Im not rooting quite yet...there arent any official ROMs for Jellybean yet...not only that, there are a few things I actually like in Touchwiz surprisingly enough, and yet a few things I dont. I had to replace the launcher(folder system is stupid). I also had to replace the keyboard with the stock Android 4.0 keyboard and the sounds on this phone really annoy me. Anyway, so I guess I am holding out for a good port(or maybe even VZW build) of Touchwiz with JellyBean.
Just a note to you guys with new S3s:
Back your IMEI up!
Seriously. Just do it.
Flashing ANYTHING, be it a TouchWiz ROM or a kernel (even a stock one!) have been reported as having at least one case of IMEI loss.
Just please do it.
From what I understand, with a proper IMEI backup and the right tools (and maybe an LTE SIM reprovisioning) you can restore a device with non-functional CDMA/LTE data/calling.

[Q] In need of advice.

So my battery is draining at a ridiculous rate. Google services are using 34% of my battery. I'm running completely stock GS3 on verizon now with 4.3. I've been doing some research, I'm thinking I need to root to debloat and get some battery increases. I think i can do the root easily enough, but installing roms and safestrap seem a tad daunting to me. So would I be best off to root and install a rom? And would anyone be willing to help me out?
Thanks for all the hard work you all do.
Here is a photo.
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Lycan84 said:
So my battery is draining at a ridiculous rate. Google services are using 34% of my battery. I'm running completely stock GS3 on verizon now with 4.3. I've been doing some research, I'm thinking I need to root to debloat and get some battery increases. I think i can do the root easily enough, but installing roms and safestrap seem a tad daunting to me. So would I be best off to root and install a rom? And would anyone be willing to help me out?
Thanks for all the hard work you all do.
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(Mod Edit: Remove Warez reference)
If you need to stop google service then I will try to help you but its better you ask the MODERATOR for solution.
Thank you.
Lycan84 said:
So my battery is draining at a ridiculous rate. Google services are using 34% of my battery. I'm runvg completely stock GS3 on verizon now with 4.3. I've been doing some research, I'm thinking I need to root to debloat and get some battery increases. I think i can do the root easily enough, but installing roms and safestrap seem a tad daunting to me. So would I be best off to root and install a rom? And would anyone be willing to help me out?
Thanks for all the hard work you all do.
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Before you go overboard if you haven't already you should boot into recovery and do a factory reset. If you took the update over the air that would explain a lot. for some reason the ota changed settings and was just overall poorly executed. If a factory reset doesn't help download the 4.3 Odin file from this website and see if that helps. I say this website and not from a place like Samsung-updates because most of there files will not wipe the phone so problems tend to stick around.
Thread cleaned to remove warez reference. Be careful what you suggest and make sure it is properly done.
There are other, proper ways to get Rom Toolbox that don't involve using a third party app.
Lycan84 said:
So my battery is draining at a ridiculous rate. Google services are using 34% of my battery. I'm running completely stock GS3 on verizon now with 4.3. I've been doing some research, I'm thinking I need to root to debloat and get some battery increases. I think i can do the root easily enough, but installing roms and safestrap seem a tad daunting to me. So would I be best off to root and install a rom? And would anyone be willing to help me out?
Thanks for all the hard work you all do.
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concerning that last part, i would read very carefully before attempting to install a custom rom on 4.3. i've seen a lot of people brick their phones because they failed to read up on it. Best place to start is rooting, then after that (if you still want to install a custom rom) go to the safestrap thread and read up on it.
Been reading up on it a bit. I enabled developer options and checked close apps when exiting i think. And my battery life was improved a lot. I still want to do root i think so i can freeze some bloatware at least.
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Lycan84 said:
Been reading up on it a bit. I enabled developer options and checked close apps when exiting i think. And my battery life was improved a lot. I still want to do root i think so i can freeze some bloatware at least.
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Be careful on what you freeze. Most of the bloat is just a eye sore in the app draw. Touchwiz roms have a lot of layers depending on other layers to work properly and if you freeze the wrong thing your phone might get worse battery and be very buggy. There is a master list of what you can safely freeze somewhere on the forum.
So now a couple days later my battery is back to pitiful life and wont fully charge over night, draining to near nothing in half hour or so. Going to try a factory reset and see what happens...
I would also Odin stock
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I would also Odin stock
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What do you mean??
Did a factory reset. Battery life the first day after a full charge was great. Wasn't on it a whole lot and didn't put many apps back on it but I got to 22hrs before it hit 10%. Now I can't get the damn thing to fully charge. I feel lost.
Lycan84 said:
Did a factory reset. Battery life the first day after a full charge was great. Wasn't on it a whole lot and didn't put many apps back on it but I got to 22hrs before it hit 10%. Now I can't get the damn thing to fully charge. I feel lost.
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Sound like a faulty battery to me. Try exchanging it. Verizon should exchange for you for free. I would also download wakelock detector. Or better battery stats. Check for rogue apps
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Overloaded RAM

Hey guys, I would really appreciate some help with this. My phone is often extremely laggy, to the point that when it's asleep and I get a phone call, it wouldn't wake up for me to be able to answer it (even though I can hear it ringing) until the person calling hangs up. I know TW is famous for being slow but this is just ridiculous. The only thing I have running in the background with the exception of normal TW stuff is the DS Battery Saver module (only set to control wifi/Data, not killing apps) and yet often I can see that the phone is using more than 2.2GB of RAM (after I've killed everything in the task manager). How can this be? Surely the system itself doesn't need THAT much RAM? I shudder to think what phones with a smaller RAM are like.
I'm running the Thunderbolt ROM (basically just deodexed stock 5.0.1) with Xposed and the "Fix Lollipop Memory Leak" module. Is there anything else I can do? I love the design of this phone but I am close to getting rid of it and going back to Sony which was always smooth as silk. I would prefer to stick to the Note though since I love the design and extra functionalities but what use are them if I have enough time to make a cup of coffee every time I try to do something?
It must be your Rom. I used to love to installed custom rom on my S1 and S2. But at the end of the day, custom roms are all buggy.
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I would agree with you but if anything, it was worse when I was on stock which is why I decided to try a custom rom (and I tried many buggy ones before settling on this). I'm not someone who spend my time flashing various roms just to experiment, it's usually because I find the performance or features lacking.
Have you tried to wipe everything and odin back to stock? Im on stock, unroot, and I dont have any issues yet.
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Have you tried to wipe everything and odin back to stock? Im on stock, unroot, and I dont have any issues yet.
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Same. I just don't even bother with Custom ROMs except if it gives more battery life. KNowing how hard Samsung has worked to make customization harder, I haven't bothered with custom ROMs for my edge.
Also I too have high RAM usage always but it doesn't make my phone any slower or laggier than past Bloatwiz phones. I am on 4.4.4 stock with a bunch of T Mobile stuff disabled.
edo101 said:
Same. I just don't even bother with Custom ROMs except if it gives more battery life. KNowing how hard Samsung has worked to make customization harder, I haven't bothered with custom ROMs for my edge.
Also I too have high RAM usage always but it doesn't make my phone any slower or laggier than past Bloatwiz phones. I am on 4.4.4 stock with a bunch of T Mobile stuff disabled.
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Yeah I wonder if I should revert back to KitKat. My phone was great when I first got it, even when I had a whole heap of stuff installed. But maybe I'll wait for 5.1.1 first and see if that helps (the 915G still hadn't received 5.1.1 yet).
marcolorenzo said:
Yeah I wonder if I should revert back to KitKat. My phone was great when I first got it, even when I had a whole heap of stuff installed. But maybe I'll wait for 5.1.1 first and see if that helps (the 915G still hadn't received 5.1.1 yet).
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From what I have seen, you can no longer downgrade Android once you update to 5.1.1
Suffice it to say I will see if there is a way to stop my phone from auto updating itself. Kit Kat is working well for me and it retains all the native Edge features that made the Edge different.
I was able to get 6.5 hours screen time with my phone with location turned off and a full day of note taking, facebook, and music
edo101 said:
From what I have seen, you can no longer downgrade Android once you update to 5.1.1
Suffice it to say I will see if there is a way to stop my phone from auto updating itself. Kit Kat is working well for me and it retains all the native Edge features that made the Edge different.
I was able to get 6.5 hours screen time with my phone with location turned off and a full day of note taking, facebook, and music
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6.5 hours?!? Holy crap, did you play any games at all? I usually last only around 3 hours but that's because I do play quite a lot of games. Anyway, I'm downgrading to 4.4.4 now, hopefully it'll stop acting up.
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6.5 hours?!? Holy crap, did you play any games at all? I usually last only around 3 hours but that's because I do play quite a lot of games. Anyway, I'm downgrading to 4.4.4 now, hopefully it'll stop acting up.
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No. Not really. Like I said, I One Noted all day with my S pen, music, facebook alot and Chrome. I managed battery by using power saving mode, turning off location and turning off sync and turning it on every hour for about 5 minutes to get my emails in.
Today I did gaming and art on my Edge and got about 4 hours
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No. Not really. Like I said, I One Noted all day with my S pen, music, facebook alot and Chrome. I managed battery by using power saving mode, turning off location and turning off sync and turning it on every hour for about 5 minutes to get my emails in.
Today I did gaming and art on my Edge and got about 4 hours
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So I've been back on stock 4.4.4 for a few days now. It is simply fantastic! The difference is huge! No problems what so ever now. I would like to stay on this for the life of my phone but I am a little concerned about the lack of security updates (such as Stagefright). What are your thoughts on this?
BTW, I noticed that Android system and kernel often takes up the majority of my battery percentage. Each by between 9-16%. Do you get this as well?
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So I've been back on stock 4.4.4 for a few days now. It is simply fantastic! The difference is huge! No problems what so ever now. I would like to stay on this for the life of my phone but I am a little concerned about the lack of security updates (such as Stagefright). What are your thoughts on this?
BTW, I noticed that Android system and kernel often takes up the majority of my battery percentage. Each by between 9-16%. Do you get this as well?
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Yep, thats normal
And don't worry, i got the stagefright update on 4.4.4 and I was on MetroPCS lol. MetroPCS rides on T Mobile, but its just goes to illustrate that you have nothing to worry about. Glad you are enjoying your Note Edge again. Its a shame Samsung forgot they released this beast of a phone. Imagine this thing with the Note 5's but Edged version of the new TW. Nah, makes too much sense for consumers. Doesn't make sense if you are trying to get people to buy new phones.
Anyways just make sure you never upgrade to 5.1.1 That thing is a point of no return
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Yep, thats normal
And don't worry, i got the stagefright update on 4.4.4 and I was on MetroPCS lol. MetroPCS rides on T Mobile, but its just goes to illustrate that you have nothing to worry about. Glad you are enjoying your Note Edge again. Its a shame Samsung forgot they released this beast of a phone. Imagine this thing with the Note 5's but Edged version of the new TW. Nah, makes too much sense for consumers. Doesn't make sense if you are trying to get people to buy new phones.
Anyways just make sure you never upgrade to 5.1.1 That thing is a point of no return
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I can't even begin to describe how happy I am with my phone right now. I remember a couple of months after I first got it, a friend of mine was watching me use it and commented on how snappy it was. Then more recently, not only did the sluggishness drive me crazy, I was watching others with envy, especially my girlfriend who is rocking my old Z1 Compact which still performs like a little rocket. Anyway, I am now back to loving the Note Edge again. I even prefer it over the new Notes, looks and all.
I just want to ask though, how did you manage to get the Stagefright update without updating the firmware? Software Update in the Settings won't allow me to update at all because "the operating system on my device has been modified in an unauthorised way" (I guess they're talking about the root) and Kies 3 tells me there's a new firmware available which I guess is 5.0.1 again (the N915G still doesn't have 5.1.1 as far as I know).
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I can't even begin to describe how happy I am with my phone right now. I remember a couple of months after I first got it, a friend of mine was watching me use it and commented on how snappy it was. Then more recently, not only did the sluggishness drive me crazy, I was watching others with envy, especially my girlfriend who is rocking my old Z1 Compact which still performs like a little rocket. Anyway, I am now back to loving the Note Edge again. I even prefer it over the new Notes, looks and all.
I just want to ask though, how did you manage to get the Stagefright update without updating the firmware? Software Update in the Settings won't allow me to update at all because "the operating system on my device has been modified in an unauthorised way" (I guess they're talking about the root) and Kies 3 tells me there's a new firmware available which I guess is 5.0.1 again (the N915G still doesn't have 5.1.1 as far as I know).
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Um not sure how it works on Sprint or whoever you are on. On MetroPCS/TMobile,it just showed up as an update and updated itself automatically. I didn't actually know what it was till I googled it and people said it was stage fright
I'm in Europe but I bought my phone in Australia unlocked. Maybe I'll just get a virus scanner, that should solve any current and future security issues right?
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marcolorenzo said:
I'm in Europe but I bought my phone in Australia unlocked. Maybe I'll just get a virus scanner, that should solve any current and future security issues right?
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Should. I really don't even know why you're scared. Do you get apps from anywhere besides Google Play Store?
Nah, I mean, some Amazon and Humble bundle apps but that's it. I'm not really that worried, just would prefer to be safe than sorry.
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Should be fine. Not sure how things work with US carier based phones overseas but what I do know is KitKat got the update. I know I did and google says Kit Kat did
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Should be fine. Not sure how things work with US carier based phones overseas but what I do know is KitKat got the update. I know I did and google says Kit Kat did
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Okay, if I can be bothered, I might unroot my phone and see if I can get the update then, then root it again afterwards. Can't be bothered to do it any time soon though
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Okay, if I can be bothered, I might unroot my phone and see if I can get the update then, then root it again afterwards. Can't be bothered to do it any time soon though
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Lol, exactly. I wouldn't be worried about your phone at all. Unless you do shady online stuff

Disable Samsung KNOX For possible Downgrade to 4.3?

As I'm sure tons of you guys know, 4.4.2 is absolute crap. Battery life, lag, GPS issues. There is barely anything good about the update. I am sick and tired of having to charge my phone almost three times a day just because the update (that Samsung claimed in my tech support chat, is "well up to date".) that isn't going to get fixed ever again.
One of these horrible features is Samsung KNOX. Just to get more customers from businesses, Samsung KNOX is ultra secure, down to the very bootloader. Basically turning into Motorola with the no-downgrade thing. Basically making it so not even older custom ROMs will flash. (I haven't flashed a ROM yet. And I'll get to why.)
Now, on HTC devices I have used, If I hated the new update, all I needed to do was Flash an older stock rom, even use an RUU if I needed to. But this update is just plain awful. And thanks to KNOX, there is no way back.
So, I have a few questions to ask.
4.3 DID come with Samsung Knox, along with the Bootloader I believe, which in my eyes, is a very narrow tunnel, but it's there.
You can uninstall Samsung KNOX through the app (If you don't have the app in the drawer, there is a way to set it up anyways. Which I did. and I pressed uninstall KNOX, but the apps are still present on the phone.)
Does this mean the security is off? Or that the 0x0/0x1 flag is off?
Is there a way to root, flash a custom 4.3 ROM, and ODIN back to Stock 4.3?
Is there even a way to do anything development-like on the device without flipping that trigger?
Or can all of this be solved by fixing settings on 4.4.2, not needing to do this anyways?
(if anyone just wants to see how bad the battery is, I can upload Battery Manager screenshots and Gsam Shots as well.)
Thanks to anyone who can provide me with some tips and maybe solutions.
nxhappy said:
As I'm sure tons of you guys know, 4.4.2 is absolute crap. Battery life, lag, GPS issues. There is barely anything good about the update. I am sick and tired of having to charge my phone almost three times a day just because the update (that Samsung claimed in my tech support chat, is "well up to date".) that isn't going to get fixed ever again.
One of these horrible features is Samsung KNOX. Just to get more customers from businesses, Samsung KNOX is ultra secure, down to the very bootloader. Basically turning into Motorola with the no-downgrade thing. Basically making it so not even older custom ROMs will flash. (I haven't flashed a ROM yet. And I'll get to why.)
Now, on HTC devices I have used, If I hated the new update, all I needed to do was Flash an older stock rom, even use an RUU if I needed to. But this update is just plain awful. And thanks to KNOX, there is no way back.
So, I have a few questions to ask.
4.3 DID come with Samsung Knox, along with the Bootloader I believe, which in my eyes, is a very narrow tunnel, but it's there.
You can uninstall Samsung KNOX through the app (If you don't have the app in the drawer, there is a way to set it up anyways. Which I did. and I pressed uninstall KNOX, but the apps are still present on the phone.)
Does this mean the security is off? Or that the 0x0/0x1 flag is off?
Is there a way to root, flash a custom 4.3 ROM, and ODIN back to Stock 4.3?
Is there even a way to do anything development-like on the device without flipping that trigger?
Or can all of this be solved by fixing settings on 4.4.2, not needing to do this anyways?
(if anyone just wants to see how bad the battery is, I can upload Battery Manager screenshots and Gsam Shots as well.)
Thanks to anyone who can provide me with some tips and maybe solutions.
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Once your on 4.4.2 you cannot downgrade. It's not even an option
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I heard it was strictly because of the KNOX bootloader. Which led me to believe that if I somehow rooted without tripping the 0x1 trigger, removed knox, and then flashed 4.3 through odin, that I'd be able to get back to a system version that doesn't suck.
nxhappy said:
I heard it was strictly because of the KNOX bootloader. Which led me to believe that if I somehow rooted without tripping the 0x1 trigger, removed knox, and then flashed 4.3 through odin, that I'd be able to get back to a system version that doesn't suck.
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Basically yes. I wouldn't even try to downgrade it. You will brick it
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Alright. But is there any way I can root without tripping the 0x1? Or a way to just save battery on 4.4.2? I barely get 7 hours anymore when I got at least 18 on 4.3.
ShapesBlue said:
Basically yes. I wouldn't even try to downgrade it. You will brick it
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This probably won't work either, but rooting, flashing a 4.3 CUSTOM ROM w/ touchwiz? Is that possible at all?
nxhappy said:
This probably won't work either, but rooting, flashing a 4.3 CUSTOM ROM w/ touchwiz? Is that possible at all?
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If your on 4.4.2 then no. If your on 4.3 yes. Only flash roms intended for the correct bootloader
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Do you know of any way to keep android system and Android OS from eating up my battery?
nxhappy said:
Do you know of any way to keep android system and Android OS from eating up my battery?
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Apps are always the biggest culprit of battery issues. If you don't already have it installed I high recommend GSAM battery monitor. That will give you an idea of what is killing the battery the quickest
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I've had it for awhile and its Kernel (Android OS)
nxhappy said:
I've had it for awhile and its Kernel (Android OS)
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If you have the app and the root companion for it then it should be pretty clear about which apps are in question
I also highly recommend an app called Wakelock detector (root)
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I can't root unless I wanna tip the trigger. Which I don't wanna do. And I only have 2 apps, even tried safe mode, so its definitely the update itself.
nxhappy said:
I can't root unless I wanna tip the trigger. Which I don't wanna do. And I only have 2 apps, even tried safe mode, so its definitely the update itself.
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If your on NE1 you can root but as far as I've read towelroot is the only option for rooting. As long as the kernel is before a certain date. I can't remember off hand what the date is however. It's hard remembering a log of this as I'm not locked down like most are
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Okay. I really like this phone, I just can't handle the terrible battery life this update has given me. It's almost as bad as what I got on my HTC One M7 when I ran sense 7.. And that had BAD battery life. Wish I could flash and root without having to deal with the trigger.
I just tried safe mode and my battery drained the same amount.
nxhappy said:
Okay. I really like this phone, I just can't handle the terrible battery life this update has given me. It's almost as bad as what I got on my HTC One M7 when I ran sense 7.. And that had BAD battery life. Wish I could flash and root without having to deal with the trigger.
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I still use my S3 so I understand. I only use it for games and on wifi but it's still a champ
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I use mine as a phone since I had a droid ultra that broke, one problem could be the battery is brand new, and I heard new batteries need to be cycled 4 times at least. Or the update is just crap. And Samsung and Verizon doesn't care, so I'm as stuck as I can be as of now, I'm guessing.
nxhappy said:
I use mine as a phone since I had a droid ultra that broke, one problem could be the battery is brand new, and I heard new batteries need to be cycled 4 times at least. Or the update is just crap. And Samsung and Verizon doesn't care, so I'm as stuck as I can be as of now, I'm guessing.
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Oh i agree. Samsung and VZW came together and truly ruined the S3. Then again they ruined more than a few phones
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Yeah. Definitely. Would switch to T-Mobile but their coverage here is absolute crap. Do you know of any good extended batteries or long lasting ones between 2200 and 3000 miliamp hours?
I've never used one with this one so unfortunately I wouldn't be of much help with that. And yea TMobile coverage here is horrible as well.
I know a lot if people used the zero lemon battery which is a lot bigger
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Keep root or go marshmallow?

I am debating now if I shouldkeep the root or move to mmarshmallow. How smooth is marshmallow? Battery life? Does Hotspot still work?
I'd keep root.
My usb port started acting really wonky and after attempting everything I could think of, I decided to try the verizon repair assistant hoping that the 1% chance it would be a software issue. Unrooted, ran the repair assistant and next thing I know, my phone is on marshmallow, the software doesn't repair sh*t, just wipes everything, installs latest rom and then puts files back. Does not return your app data.
Anyway, long story short, my battery seems to drain quicker now, I can't deal with all the ads and I lost years of app data. Stick with root, nothing special with marshmallow.
brdsng said:
I'd keep root.
My usb port started acting really wonky and after attempting everything I could think of, I decided to try the verizon repair assistant hoping that the 1% chance it would be a software issue. Unrooted, ran the repair assistant and next thing I know, my phone is on marshmallow, the software doesn't repair sh*t, just wipes everything, installs latest rom and then puts files back. Does not return your app data.
Anyway, long story short, my battery seems to drain quicker now, I can't deal with all the ads and I lost years of app data. Stick with root, nothing special with marshmallow.
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Shoot, wish that would have been a software issue for you. Still tempted to see how marshmallow runs. My phone seems to be running slow.
I've had root on my phone's since the original Motorola droid days. Now that we haven't been able to unlock bootloader root is almost pointless that we can't install custom kernels, or true Roms. I've had more options being on marshmallow than 0C3 or 0E2. I don't use hotspot so I'm not sure if it still works but I was reading that people have been able to get it going without root. Android and Samsung pay works now that I'm not rooted. Samsung's themes work very well and canake the whole touch whiz experience bearable. All the addware that comes along with not being rooted is easily hidden. People complain about that it's still installed and using space on our phones but for me I haven't noticed them.
titos1997 said:
I've had root on my phone's since the original Motorola droid days. Now that we haven't been able to unlock bootloader root is almost pointless that we can't install custom kernels, or true Roms. I've had more options being on marshmallow than 0C3 or 0E2. I don't use hotspot so I'm not sure if it still works but I was reading that people have been able to get it going without root. Android and Samsung pay works now that I'm not rooted. Samsung's themes work very well and canake the whole touch whiz experience bearable. All the addware that comes along with not being rooted is easily hidden. People complain about that it's still installed and using space on our phones but for me I haven't noticed them.
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Do you know the best way to go back to stock? I've been on 5.0.2 OE2 rooted since the beginning but I'm wanting to move over to Marshmallow stock and get some of those apps back that don't support rooted phones.
So my big question is foxfi working on marshmallow foe the unlimited plan?
So my big question is foxfi working on marshmallow foe the unlimited plan?
serotoninzero said:
Do you know the best way to go back to stock? I've been on 5.0.2 OE2 rooted since the beginning but I'm wanting to move over to Marshmallow stock and get some of those apps back that don't support rooted phones.
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All I did was uninstall the apps which required root, then I unrooted through SU and then connected to the verizon upgrade assistant. You can also use the Samsung smart switch. Before I connected to the upgrade assistant and smart switch, but after I unrooted through SU, I rebooted my phone a few times and the custom unlock boot screen also changed to normal.
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titos1997 said:
I've had root on my phone's since the original Motorola droid days. Now that we haven't been able to unlock bootloader root is almost pointless that we can't install custom kernels, or true Roms. I've had more options being on marshmallow than 0C3 or 0E2. I don't use hotspot so I'm not sure if it still works but I was reading that people have been able to get it going without root. Android and Samsung pay works now that I'm not rooted. Samsung's themes work very well and canake the whole touch whiz experience bearable. All the addware that comes along with not being rooted is easily hidden. People complain about that it's still installed and using space on our phones but for me I haven't noticed them.
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I've been rooting since the HTC Hero days and I disagree. Although we have lost a lot with the locked bootloader, it's not pointless, root still lets you keep all of your old app data with titanium backup which I personally had stored for years. It's also great for blocking ads, being on day 4 of no root, all these ads are really annoying.
I'd love to be back on OE2!
Matlab$Brah said:
So my big question is foxfi working on marshmallow foe the unlimited plan?
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Works perfectly. I switched from OE2 to MM with no regrets. Get package disabler pro and get rid of all the bloat and it's super smooth with great battery life. The only thing I miss about not having root is I can't use better battery stats anymore. The locked bootloader and complete lack of updated ROMs was a much bigger deal to me.
serotoninzero said:
Do you know the best way to go back to stock? I've been on 5.0.2 OE2 rooted since the beginning but I'm wanting to move over to Marshmallow stock and get some of those apps back that don't support rooted phones.
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Download stock firmware from Sammobile and flash with Odin.
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serotoninzero said:
Do you know the best way to go back to stock? I've been on 5.0.2 OE2 rooted since the beginning but I'm wanting to move over to Marshmallow stock and get some of those apps back that don't support rooted phones.
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The Marshmallow Odin Tar was linked in another thread. You should be able to just flash this and factory reset through the stock recovery and be set. I haven't done this but that's the route I'll be taking when I do decide to upgrade
Matlab$Brah said:
Shoot, wish that would have been a software issue for you. Still tempted to see how marshmallow runs. My phone seems to be running slow.
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So did you ever make the move?
Yes, best decision I have made marshmallow is faster and smoother, foxfi works, and you can you samsung pay.
marshmallow good, lock screen bad
Yea, marshmallow works very good on the S6.. smooth, good battery life, looks good...but that freaking swipe screen! Having to swipe the screen just to get to your lock screen is useless and irritating and people have been asking Google to change it since lollipop. I was hoping marshmallow would be different but no
Looks like no ability to root now either
I made the jump. Best decision ever. Very polished and no more force close like 5.0.2. Can still tether with foxfi which is what I pretty much only used root for.
How is the latest update? I'm still rooted and thinking about going back to stock.

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