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Updating to 4.4.2 ?

Hey guys, I've read a lot on updating after being rooted, but just need to confirm before I do mess up anything.
All I have done is Rooted Stock (I have TWRP on the phone), and have flashed volume mod, and also battery percent mod. (Other then that I am running Nova Launcher, Titanium Backup)
Guessing I need to flash the back to stock for volume and battery percent (Correct if I am wrong).
And then how exactly do I go about updating to 4.4.2 and preferably retaining root?
Sorry I know noob question, just making sure as I've always unrooted, and never had any mods when I have done updates in the past.

1) you have to flash back to stock system image since you modded your phone
2) once you either get the OTA or sideload it, you just flash cwm/twrp in fastboot and then flash the supersu.zip
thats all

so in other words go back and unroot completely, go completely back to stock, and redo everything from the beginning?

Just flash the 4.4.2 stock rooted rom in the dev section
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Or you can flash the Updated Super SU zip right?
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AndroidRaven said:
so in other words go back and unroot completely, go completely back to stock, and redo everything from the beginning?
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You are flashing back the stock ROM. If you want to keep data intact, flash only the boot.img, system.img
niv3d said:
Or you can flash the Updated Super SU zip right?
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that won't help you get back to stock.

I guess I need a tutorial on what you guys are talking about because I still am not understanding..
Would flashing the rooted 4.4.2 work? And if so what do I need to do before I flash this?
How exactly do I go about only flashing only the boot.img and system.img?
Will I loose anything through this process?
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AndroidRaven said:
I guess I need a tutorial on what you guys are talking about because I still am not understanding..
Would flashing the rooted 4.4.2 work? And if so what do I need to do before I flash this?
How exactly do I go about only flashing only the boot.img and system.img?
Will I loose anything through this process?
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Follow this guide --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523217
Best guide out there, with big thanks to El Daddy

AndroidRaven said:
I guess I need a tutorial on what you guys are talking about because I still am not understanding..
Would flashing the rooted 4.4.2 work? And if so what do I need to do before I flash this?
How exactly do I go about only flashing only the boot.img and system.img?
Will I loose anything through this process?
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One safe way to get the OTA, taking into account that you modded your phone, is:
i) flash system.img then flash stock recovery,
ii) once the OTA update is on your phone and you have accepted it (it installed itself) you are back to stock.
iii)flash your custom recovery and re-install your SuperSu to get back your root.
Good luck

Anyway to stop losing root & recovery?

So is there anyway to keep my recovery or root when I flash an ota update?
If there is no way. Then anyway to install cwm and root from just the phone?
I do my updates etc when I have down time and that's usually on lunch or when my laptop is not around so handling everything from the phone would be very nice.
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rans0m00 said:
So is there anyway to keep my recovery or root when I flash an ota update?
If there is no way. Then anyway to install cwm and root from just the phone?
I do my updates etc when I have down time and that's usually on lunch or when my laptop is not around so handling everything from the phone would be very nice.
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You will lose root when flashing an OTA, but it is just one extra step to flash the SuperSU (takes less than a minute) to regain root. I keep the SuperSU file on my phone and just flash it from there.
I use TWRP, and haven't lost my custom recovery while flashing 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 yet.
(I stay stock rooted - you can't safely take OTA if you aren't on the stock ROM)

jj14 said:
You will lose root when flashing an OTA, but it is just one extra step to flash the SuperSU (takes less than a minute) to regain root. I keep the SuperSU file on my phone and just flash it from there.
I use TWRP, and haven't lost my custom recovery while flashing 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 yet.
(I stay stock rooted - you can't safely take OTA if you aren't on the stock ROM)
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I let it restart before I flashed root. And been using cwm just preference and its gone after the 4.4.1 flash and now the 4.4.2
Except root and recovery I am completely stock.
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rans0m00 said:
I let it restart before I flashed root. And been using cwm just preference and its gone after the 4.4.1 flash and now the 4.4.2
Except root and recovery I am completely stock.
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I haven't used CWM, so can't say. But with TWRP, I flashed the update, and let the phone start up fully. Then, when I saw that root was gone, I shut down and booted back into TWRP, and flashed SuperSU. and then, booted back up. TWRP is still there.
(I'm rooted, stock ROM with custom recovery as well)

I use TWRP also. I flash the OTA, then Flash the SuperSU and then I reboot. Have yet to lose root

So not really a way of keeping cwm or root... But this is how I did it without needing a computer with me.
Flashed updated in cwm... Then flashed root... Then reboot... Used ROM manager to reinstall cwm.... Everything is good to go.
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Or do like I do wait a couple of hours for one of the great devs we have here to give us a fully working updated stock rom with su and busybox built in.
All you can ask for from a rooted stock rom.

Download the system images and use flashify to flash all the files you need.
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rans0m00 said:
So is there anyway to keep my recovery or root when I flash an ota update?
If there is no way. Then anyway to install cwm and root from just the phone?
I do my updates etc when I have down time and that's usually on lunch or when my laptop is not around so handling everything from the phone would be very nice.
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Get the pro version of SU by chainfire and check keep root

Valdeck said:
Get the pro version of SU by chainfire and check keep root
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^^^^ This
Survival mode FTW

Have the pro version. Will check that but would still lose cwm.
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Help updated 4.4.2

I'm on stock rooted 4.4.2 running Franco kernel. Question is how do I update with out bringing phone to factory settings
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you make a backup in recovery, then dirty flash, dont wipe a single thing, 444 over it. if alls well after, then perfect. if you have issues, you have that backup in recovery to restore

simms22 said:
you make a backup in recovery, then dirty flash, dont wipe a single thing, 444 over it. if alls well after, then perfect. if you have issues, you have that backup in recovery to restore
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I downloaded then tried to flash the zip file in twrp .. It says it failed not sure what to do next and is 4.4.4 the latest firmware?
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ROADKING17 said:
I downloaded then tried to flash the zip file in twrp .. It says it failed not sure what to do next and is 4.4.4 the latest firmware?
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Unfortunately my clairvoyant skills aren't working today
perhaps you could elaborate on the following 2 things
1) what zip are you flashing?
2) what error are you getting?
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The pop up I get every 3 days for me to update my device to 4.4.3 I believe.. It's located in twrp under cache... When I try flashing it says error in red lettering ... Also I tried Uninstalling Xposed but seems not to change anything
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ROADKING17 said:
The pop up I get every 3 days for me to update my device to 4.4.3 I believe.. It's located in twrp under cache... When I try flashing it says error in red lettering ... Also I tried Uninstalling Xposed but seems not to change anything
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Don't use OTA updates. Just manually flash a rooted stock ROM via TWRP.
Click the link in my signature and go to the "resources" section. You'll find a full rooted, PURE STOCK 4.4.4 rom there.
Copy it to your /sdcard, take a FULL nandroid backup then flash the ROM.

rootSU said:
Don't use OTA updates. Just manually flash a rooted stock ROM via TWRP.
Click the link in my signature and go to the "resources" section. You'll find a full rooted, PURE STOCK 4.4.4 rom there.
Copy it to your /sdcard, take a FULL nandroid backup then flash the ROM.
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Will I lose anything on my device and will I be able to dirty flash
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ROADKING17 said:
Will I lose anything on my device and will I be able to dirty flash
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did you read any of the threads? the answer is in there.

ROADKING17 said:
Will I lose anything on my device and will I be able to dirty flash
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if the dirty flash is successful, you wont lose a thing, except time. if you have to go back and wipe, you will lose your data. so, make a backup in recovery first, before the dirty flash.

Boot recovery.img from phone

Is it possible to boot a recovery image from the phone without flashing? If not is it ok to reflash backups of stock recovery? Tnx

and313 said:
Is it possible to boot a recovery image from the phone without flashing? If not is it ok to reflash backups of stock recovery? Tnx
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It is possible via android sdk. You can use command: fastboot boot twrp.img
where twrp.img is the name of the recovery that you downloaded and not twrp.img

Alexandar92zr said:
It is possible via android sdk. You can use command: fastboot boot twrp.img
where twrp.img is the name of the recovery that you downloaded and not twrp.img
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Yes i know but i would like to do it from the phone... There are tons of flash recovery apps but no boot recovery apps

ROM manager used to do it years ago until people got into trouble with it and it was removed.
If you intend on flashing things AMD backing up, flash a recovery. If you're not willing to flash a recovery, don't modify your phone
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and313 said:
Yes i know but i would like to do it from the phone... There are tons of flash recovery apps but no boot recovery apps
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Try flashify

AndreIrawan97 said:
Try flashify
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That flashes recovery. Clue is in the name.
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rootSU said:
ROM manager used to do it years ago until people got into trouble with it and it was removed.
If you intend on flashing things AMD backing up, flash a recovery. If you're not willing to flash a recovery, don't modify your phone
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The problem with flashing is that you loose the ota update ability. That's why i would like to keep the stock recovery and just boot into cwm when i need it... But i guess i can restore the stock recovery via flashify before the ota is being installed so thats a solution... I just dont like flashing this stuff via apps

and313 said:
The problem with flashing is that you loose the ota update ability. That's why i would like to keep the stock recovery and just boot into cwm when i need it... But i guess i can restore the stock recovery via flashify before the ota is being installed so thats a solution... I just dont like flashing this stuff via apps
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1) you do not lose OTA update ability with custom recovery. Read "OTA help-desk" available via my signature
2] what's the big deal about OTA? Its the worst way of updating available to everyone. Why bother? If you rely on OTA, remain unrooted, unmodified. Rooting is not for you.
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Ugh lol OK, so worried about the ota? No worries, flash whatever recovery you want twrp,cwm,philz whatever floats your boat. Then when your ota comes out use Rashr to reflash stock recovery so you can update(you have to be on stock obviously).
I've done this numerous times, works every time.
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todorcim said:
Ugh lol OK, so worried about the ota? No worries, flash whatever recovery you want twrp,cwm,philz whatever floats your boat. Then when your ota comes out use Rashr to reflash stock recovery so you can update(you have to be on stock obviously).
I've done this numerous times, works every time.
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One of the problems with OTA is the slow delivery and partial nature.
If I wasn't rooted, i'd always update using factory images. But since I am, the best way is for flash a pre-rooted stock ROM via recovery. They're usually available within an hour of the factory image becoming available
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rootSU said:
One of the problems with OTA is the slow delivery and partial nature.
If I wasn't rooted, i'd always update using factory images. But since I am, the best way is for flash a pre-rooted stock ROM via recovery. They're usually available within an hour of the factory image becoming available
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Agreed 100%, I normally stay rooted,this most recent preview though I'm staying stock. After running L for the last couple months its hard to go back to KitKat(I've tried several times). I have no intention of flashing another rom atm, I'll worry about root after the 3rd.
As for buddy worrying about the ota, really you have two choices.
#1 root and flash a recovery then wait for someone to post a root stock ROM
#2 wait for the ota
The only real benefit I see in waiting for the ota is you will probably get to keep all your apps on your phone. Me personally? I'd just fastboot the preview and wait till the 3rd.
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Restoring Nexus 5 to stock: will it replace TWRP?

Hi all,
I have a Nexus 5 that I'm trying to return to stock. I'd like to keep the bootloader unlocked, however. If I follow the instructions here (minus the bootloader lock part): https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images will I be all good to go with a completely wiped, good-as-new phone? Also, will this overwrite TWRP, which I currently have on the phone?

If you follow the instructions and flash everything, yes it'll go back to stock and replace twrp with stock recovery as well

If you flash the img files individually, you don't have to flash the recovery img if you want to keep twrp tho
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thephantom said:
If you follow the instructions and flash everything, yes it'll go back to stock and replace twrp with stock recovery as well
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Thanks! I think I'll just do that, but I'll keep the bootloader unlocked in case I need to flash more things later.

Powered_By_Linux said:
Thanks! I think I'll just do that, but I'll keep the bootloader unlocked in case I need to flash more things later.
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If you're flashing stock, remember there's a built-in behaviour that checks for stock recovery: if it's not there, it will overwrite whatever is there (twrp, in this case) with stock recovery, on every reboot.
You'll need to take care of this if you want a stock+twrp permanent combo.
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beekay201 said:
If you're flashing stock, remember there's a built-in behaviour that checks for stock recovery: if it's not there, it will overwrite whatever is there (twrp, in this case) with stock recovery, on every reboot.
You'll need to take care of this if you want a stock+twrp permanent combo.
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I never knew that!
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Ben36 said:
I never knew that!
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After looking at this guide, it says that you need to do a factory reset in the stock recovery after flashing all the images. Is this outdated information?

Ben36 said:
I never knew that!
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Yep, next time you're on stock checkout /system/install-recovery.sh and /system/recovery-from-boot.p files.
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