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Will Nexus S Unlocked bootloader and custom kernel update OTA to ICS when it's out?

My gf got a Nexus S last month and loves it! She just needs BLN to work... so we unlocked the bootloader and installed a custom Kernel (Matr1x I believe). Will the OTA come through? If so, will it wipe out anything like CWR or the unlocked bootloader? I saw Matr1x already released a ver for ICS so it would be an easy install...
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danifunker said:
My gf got a Nexus S last month and loves it! She just needs BLN to work... so we unlocked the bootloader and installed a custom Kernel (Matr1x I believe). Will the OTA come through? If so, will it wipe out anything like CWR or the unlocked bootloader? I saw Matr1x already released a ver for ICS so it would be an easy install...
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No it wont update.
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thegtfusion said:
No it wont update.
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How would I go about updating the device? She's pretty excited for ICS.

It will fail the verifying stage of the update. All the original files of the previous version of the update your flashing needs to be there.

snandlal said:
It will fail the verifying stage of the update. All the original files of the previous version of the update your flashing needs to be there.
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So if I restore the Kernel (I'm not sure how I would go about doing that though, can someone provide instructions? ) would it apply the update at that point? Or do I need to re-lock the bootloader? Relocking would be a pain........

danifunker said:
So if I restore the Kernel (I'm not sure how I would go about doing that though, can someone provide instructions? ) would it apply the update at that point? Or do I need to re-lock the bootloader? Relocking would be a pain........
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If you have a nand backup of stock restore it, Otherwise download one of the stock roms from here and flash it in recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063664

snandlal said:
It will fail the verifying stage of the update. All the original files of the previous version of the update your flashing needs to be there.
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That depends on what kind of update it will be ... The update from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 on my i9023 nexus was a full rom and could be flashed without a problem.
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Go back to latest available stock version. (Rooted with Superuser.apk in /system/app is OK) & Keep your Custom Recovery or reflash it.
Put a Superuser flashable zip on your sdcard.
When you have the OTA update.zip somewhere on your sdcard ( Copied from /cache) boot into custom recovery
Flash update.zip manually and directly after it flashes, flash the Superuser.zip right on top of update.
Wipe /cache
Reboot
Download Joeykrim's flash_image gui from the market.
Place custom-recovery.img on root of sdcard. (Rename it to recovery.img)
Flash custom recovery in flash_image gui
Change permissions of /system/etc/install-recovery.sh & /system/recovery-from-boot.p to "000"

I would just wait till ics is out and then youll find a flashable .zip here on xda and you can just flash that like you did with the matr1x kernel... not shure if full wipe would be nescesary but if yes then you can backup your apps through titanium or sth similar!
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Edit: what i actually wanted to say that theres no need to go back to stock now because you can get the update over xda and just flash that!

while we're on the topic....would editing the build.prop keep an OTA from installing? For example, LCD density??

Why not just wait like one day for someone to post a rooted stock ICS rom? I am sure one of our wonderful devs here will be all over it. It will probably show up in one of those REF threads pretty quickly. Then you don't have to mess around with setting root up again. That's what I always did with my EVO Shift so I'll probably do it with this phone as well.

If you hadn't modified your build.prop or removed system apps, you'll just need to flash the stock kernel. Theres no need to flash the whole stock Rom.

What if your bootloader is unlocked and nothing else. Will it get the OTA?

Question since we on the subject when will ics be released for our phones or is it still unknown as to when is gonna be released?
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cpaixao said:
If you hadn't modified your build.prop or removed system apps, you'll just need to flash the stock kernel. Theres no need to flash the whole stock Rom.
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That's exactly what I was looking for... but where would I find the stock Kernel and can I overwrite it while the system is in use? I downloaded the entire stock ROM for her phone so I should have the file somewhere in one of the IMG files (yes, I have mounted them before in Windows)
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danifunker said:
That's exactly what I was looking for... but where would I find the stock Kernel and can I overwrite it while the system is in use? I downloaded the entire stock ROM for her phone so I should have the file somewhere in one of the IMG files (yes, I have mounted them before in Windows)
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boot.img is the kernel.

How do I apply just boot.img?
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Fastboot flash boot boot.img
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4.3 Upgrade on Friday and root?

So I have a friend whose phone I rooted a while back. He's still on the stock ROM and has no plans to change. What do I have to do to get him the 4.3 upgrade when (or if lol) it comes out without locking his phone up? I'm assuming I'll have to remove root. Anyway to do that without using ODIN?
Thanks!

Evil Genius Jr. said:
So I have a friend whose phone I rooted a while back. He's still on the stock ROM and has no plans to change. What do I have to do to get him the 4.3 upgrade when (or if lol) it comes out without locking his phone up? I'm assuming I'll have to remove root. Anyway to do that without using ODIN?
Thanks!
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If he's still on the stock rom, he'll receive an OTA notification on his phone. So long as he hasn't removed any system apps or installed any systemUI mods then it will update just fine even with a custom recovery installed.

He removed a couple of system apps but is on the stock ROM with no UI changes.

he has time to worry about it later. nothing is going to happen on friday.
does he have a nand of the stock system? if so tell him to restore it before updating to be safe

Yeah that's what I thought but better safe than sorry. No NAND of stock as far as I know.

OK there is thread out there just has rooted stock ROMs you can flash in recovery without a data wipe. I can't seem to find the thread for some reason but I have the file. If you wait till tomorrow I can upload it and share it. Or maybe u can find the thread. Or if all he removed was Verizon apps he could try a flashable zip to restore VZW apps.
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Sandman-007 said:
OK there is thread out there just has rooted stock ROMs you can flash in recovery without a data wipe. I can't seem to find the thread for some reason but I have the file. If you wait till tomorrow I can upload it and share it. Or maybe u can find the thread. Or if all he removed was Verizon apps he could try a flashable zip to restore VZW apps.
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You mean this? This no data wipe one is for Odin.

SlimSnoopOS said:
You mean this? This no data wipe one is for Odin.
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That's the one! Thanks SlimSnoop. Forgot they were Odin flashables but his friend could use mobile Odin as long as he has an unlocked bootloader. If not just use EZunlock 1.2. Its a one click app.
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Okay thanks! I do have the zip somewhere, I'll have to look. Bootloader is unlocked with custom recovery. So If I just Odin or flash the zip the custom recovery or bootloader won't cause any problems?

Evil Genius Jr. said:
Okay thanks! I do have the zip somewhere, I'll have to look. Bootloader is unlocked with custom recovery. So If I just Odin or flash the zip the custom recovery or bootloader won't cause any problems?
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No bootloader is fine but that file needs to flashed in Odin. If you want use mobile Odin. Its what use and it's easier IMO. just make sure which ever version of Odin you use that you have plenty if charge ( over 70%)
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okay thanks!
And by flashing the zip I meant the flash able zip file, not the Odin file...

Evil Genius Jr. said:
okay thanks!
And by flashing the zip I meant the flash able zip file, not the Odin file...
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OK. Because you do NOT want to get that term mixed up and you do not want to flash a flushable zip using odim. Very bad idea. Odin uses tar files which sometimes comes zipped up (not flashable via recovery)
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New m8 wants to update

I just got my m8 and want to s-off but I'm traveling and won't be able to figure that out until I'm back on my pc next week. The update keeps prompting me to take it. Is it safe to do so? Sorry if this was already answered trying to figure out the best way to browse with tapatalk.
I don't have root or anything yet...
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I used Firewater's method for permanent root, s-off and custom recovery. If I allow my phone to update will I mess things up or lose root?

Same boat here... s-off, permanent root, TWRP
The update to 1.55 downloaded but when I tried to let it install it just rebooted my phone into TWRP and that was it. Rebooted back to system and I'm still on the 1.12.605.11 software. Checking software update status shows "Result: Update Failed,410"

N00bs. Lol. You need a stock recovery to flash an OTA. Also, I am s-off and I had a flashback to a stock recovery to flash the OTA . Everything is still fine and then I flashed back to a custom recovery no problem
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Totally a noob here, How do you flash to a stock recovery?
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You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
There are also videos on YouTube on flashing recoveries to the m8 if you need more help.
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Justintoxicated said:
I just got my m8 and want to s-off but I'm traveling and won't be able to figure that out until I'm back on my pc next week. The update keeps prompting me to take it. Is it safe to do so? Sorry if this was already answered trying to figure out the best way to browse with tapatalk.
I don't have root or anything yet...
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You can install the update, and when you have the chance you can s-off using the weaksauce/supersu/firewater method. I picked up a new M8 a couple nights ago and took the update, and afterwards did the temproot/firewater method and it worked just fine. Hope this helps.

I flashed stock recovery and tried the OTA and it failed twice. I can't seem to get it on my phone through any of the methods for some reason.

In order to install update, you need to have STOCK recovery and STOCK Rom....NOT debloated or with mods....STOCK.
Again, you need STOCK recovery using a STOCK Rom.
If you have modified the system in anyway, it WONT work until you put it back to STOCK.
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^you can have bloatware frozen and it'll work, just can't be removed.
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dadams312 said:
I flashed stock recovery and tried the OTA and it failed twice. I can't seem to get it on my phone through any of the methods for some reason.
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z-man79 said:
Totally a noob here, How do you flash to a stock recovery?
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KnightDavid said:
Same boat here... s-off, permanent root, TWRP
The update to 1.55 downloaded but when I tried to let it install it just rebooted my phone into TWRP and that was it. Rebooted back to system and I'm still on the 1.12.605.11 software. Checking software update status shows "Result: Update Failed,410"
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z-man79 said:
I used Firewater's method for permanent root, s-off and custom recovery. If I allow my phone to update will I mess things up or lose root?
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No need to take ota. Ota us our enemy. Lol. The ota has been pulled an you can simply flash the firmware an that's half of the ota an then flash a stock Rom based off 1.55 or install the backup that was posted of a pure stock 1.55 Rom. After those 2 things you will have the full ota. New radios everything.. flashing a stock recovery taking ota flashing back is not needed.
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Thanks guys it was annoying having that update keep popping up and no real computer to lookup info or soff. As for getting updates after roming the phone usually just wait for authors to incorporate the updates. But I did not realize you can't have two recoveries like you can on Motorola phones which is good to know.
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New to android here.
I rooted the device with WeakSauce and use Firewater for S-Off. I didn't flash any custom recoveries. I did freeze some apps with Titanium Backup. If I do the OTA, 1) will it work? and 2) will it remove my root and/or s-off?

NoFanboy said:
You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
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For clarification, after flashing the stockrecovery.img you posted and installing the update, there should be no problem flashing back to CWM recovery after the fact?
Thank you for your help and your time!

skivvies said:
For clarification, after flashing the stockrecovery.img you posted and installing the update, there should be no problem flashing back to CWM recovery after the fact?
Thank you for your help and your time!
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Nope there will be no problem.
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richii0207 said:
In order to install update, you need to have STOCK recovery and STOCK Rom....NOT debloated or with mods....STOCK.
Again, you need STOCK recovery using a STOCK Rom.
If you have modified the system in anyway, it WONT work until you put it back to STOCK.
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All your big words confuse me...will it work with custom rom's and recoveries?

I don't remember ever having to have stock recovery and stock rom for my old DNA to take an update. Normally devs would update their rom with the updates and all we had to do was fastboot flash the new radio.

NoFanboy said:
You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
There are also videos on YouTube on flashing recoveries to the m8 if you need more help.
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So I flash the file you linked to, thank you but when I try to get into recovery I get a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Seemed pretty straight forward.

sfreemanoh said:
All your big words confuse me...will it work with custom rom's and recoveries?
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Lol, I had to. I just know someone is going to start a thread saying "update won't work, it just boots into twrp"
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z-man79 said:
So I flash the file you linked to, thank you but when I try to get into recovery I get a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Seemed pretty straight forward.
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Hold the volume up button and pressed the power button to get to the recovery menu.

Boot recovery.img from phone

Is it possible to boot a recovery image from the phone without flashing? If not is it ok to reflash backups of stock recovery? Tnx

and313 said:
Is it possible to boot a recovery image from the phone without flashing? If not is it ok to reflash backups of stock recovery? Tnx
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It is possible via android sdk. You can use command: fastboot boot twrp.img
where twrp.img is the name of the recovery that you downloaded and not twrp.img

Alexandar92zr said:
It is possible via android sdk. You can use command: fastboot boot twrp.img
where twrp.img is the name of the recovery that you downloaded and not twrp.img
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Yes i know but i would like to do it from the phone... There are tons of flash recovery apps but no boot recovery apps

ROM manager used to do it years ago until people got into trouble with it and it was removed.
If you intend on flashing things AMD backing up, flash a recovery. If you're not willing to flash a recovery, don't modify your phone
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and313 said:
Yes i know but i would like to do it from the phone... There are tons of flash recovery apps but no boot recovery apps
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Try flashify

AndreIrawan97 said:
Try flashify
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That flashes recovery. Clue is in the name.
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rootSU said:
ROM manager used to do it years ago until people got into trouble with it and it was removed.
If you intend on flashing things AMD backing up, flash a recovery. If you're not willing to flash a recovery, don't modify your phone
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The problem with flashing is that you loose the ota update ability. That's why i would like to keep the stock recovery and just boot into cwm when i need it... But i guess i can restore the stock recovery via flashify before the ota is being installed so thats a solution... I just dont like flashing this stuff via apps

and313 said:
The problem with flashing is that you loose the ota update ability. That's why i would like to keep the stock recovery and just boot into cwm when i need it... But i guess i can restore the stock recovery via flashify before the ota is being installed so thats a solution... I just dont like flashing this stuff via apps
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1) you do not lose OTA update ability with custom recovery. Read "OTA help-desk" available via my signature
2] what's the big deal about OTA? Its the worst way of updating available to everyone. Why bother? If you rely on OTA, remain unrooted, unmodified. Rooting is not for you.
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Ugh lol OK, so worried about the ota? No worries, flash whatever recovery you want twrp,cwm,philz whatever floats your boat. Then when your ota comes out use Rashr to reflash stock recovery so you can update(you have to be on stock obviously).
I've done this numerous times, works every time.
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todorcim said:
Ugh lol OK, so worried about the ota? No worries, flash whatever recovery you want twrp,cwm,philz whatever floats your boat. Then when your ota comes out use Rashr to reflash stock recovery so you can update(you have to be on stock obviously).
I've done this numerous times, works every time.
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One of the problems with OTA is the slow delivery and partial nature.
If I wasn't rooted, i'd always update using factory images. But since I am, the best way is for flash a pre-rooted stock ROM via recovery. They're usually available within an hour of the factory image becoming available
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rootSU said:
One of the problems with OTA is the slow delivery and partial nature.
If I wasn't rooted, i'd always update using factory images. But since I am, the best way is for flash a pre-rooted stock ROM via recovery. They're usually available within an hour of the factory image becoming available
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Agreed 100%, I normally stay rooted,this most recent preview though I'm staying stock. After running L for the last couple months its hard to go back to KitKat(I've tried several times). I have no intention of flashing another rom atm, I'll worry about root after the 3rd.
As for buddy worrying about the ota, really you have two choices.
#1 root and flash a recovery then wait for someone to post a root stock ROM
#2 wait for the ota
The only real benefit I see in waiting for the ota is you will probably get to keep all your apps on your phone. Me personally? I'd just fastboot the preview and wait till the 3rd.
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Marshmallow upgrade

Can I update my phone to marshmallow by flashing stock recovery unrooting my and relocking my bootloader by an app from playstore.because I don't have a pc available at the moment.and also can I root my phone again after updating it to marshmallow?
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abdullah.ejaz123 said:
Can I update my phone to marshmallow by flashing stock recovery unrooting my and relocking my bootloader by an app from playstore.because I don't have a pc available at the moment.and also can I root my phone again after updating it to marshmallow?
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1) Yes, see below.
2) You could to flash the exact recovery image of the build you are running now (which should be LMY48M), but save this step for last.
3) If I'm thinking correctly, unrooting will also restore some system files back, and IIRC, some of these might be install-recovery.sh and recovery-from-boot.p. What these will do is to restore stock recovery if, on a reboot, it catches something else on the recovery partition. Going by this perspective, you wouldn't even need to manually flash stock recovery.
4) You don't need to relock the bootloader to successfully install an OTA.
Don't rush this, take your time.
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beekay201 said:
1) Yes, see below.
2) You could to flash the exact recovery image of the build you are running now (which should be LMY48M), but save this step for last.
3) If I'm thinking correctly, unrooting will also restore some system files back, and IIRC, some of these might be install-recovery.sh and recovery-from-boot.p. What these will do is to restore stock recovery if, on a reboot, it catches something else on the recovery partition. Going by this perspective, you wouldn't even need to manually flash stock recovery.
4) You don't need to relock the bootloader to successfully install an OTA.
Don't rush this, take your time.
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And what if unrooting didn't restore stock recovery?
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abdullah.ejaz123 said:
And what if unrooting didn't restore stock recovery?
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Then you'll need to do 2).
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