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4.3 Upgrade on Friday and root?

So I have a friend whose phone I rooted a while back. He's still on the stock ROM and has no plans to change. What do I have to do to get him the 4.3 upgrade when (or if lol) it comes out without locking his phone up? I'm assuming I'll have to remove root. Anyway to do that without using ODIN?
Thanks!

Evil Genius Jr. said:
So I have a friend whose phone I rooted a while back. He's still on the stock ROM and has no plans to change. What do I have to do to get him the 4.3 upgrade when (or if lol) it comes out without locking his phone up? I'm assuming I'll have to remove root. Anyway to do that without using ODIN?
Thanks!
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If he's still on the stock rom, he'll receive an OTA notification on his phone. So long as he hasn't removed any system apps or installed any systemUI mods then it will update just fine even with a custom recovery installed.

He removed a couple of system apps but is on the stock ROM with no UI changes.

he has time to worry about it later. nothing is going to happen on friday.
does he have a nand of the stock system? if so tell him to restore it before updating to be safe

Yeah that's what I thought but better safe than sorry. No NAND of stock as far as I know.

OK there is thread out there just has rooted stock ROMs you can flash in recovery without a data wipe. I can't seem to find the thread for some reason but I have the file. If you wait till tomorrow I can upload it and share it. Or maybe u can find the thread. Or if all he removed was Verizon apps he could try a flashable zip to restore VZW apps.
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Sandman-007 said:
OK there is thread out there just has rooted stock ROMs you can flash in recovery without a data wipe. I can't seem to find the thread for some reason but I have the file. If you wait till tomorrow I can upload it and share it. Or maybe u can find the thread. Or if all he removed was Verizon apps he could try a flashable zip to restore VZW apps.
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You mean this? This no data wipe one is for Odin.

SlimSnoopOS said:
You mean this? This no data wipe one is for Odin.
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That's the one! Thanks SlimSnoop. Forgot they were Odin flashables but his friend could use mobile Odin as long as he has an unlocked bootloader. If not just use EZunlock 1.2. Its a one click app.
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Okay thanks! I do have the zip somewhere, I'll have to look. Bootloader is unlocked with custom recovery. So If I just Odin or flash the zip the custom recovery or bootloader won't cause any problems?

Evil Genius Jr. said:
Okay thanks! I do have the zip somewhere, I'll have to look. Bootloader is unlocked with custom recovery. So If I just Odin or flash the zip the custom recovery or bootloader won't cause any problems?
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No bootloader is fine but that file needs to flashed in Odin. If you want use mobile Odin. Its what use and it's easier IMO. just make sure which ever version of Odin you use that you have plenty if charge ( over 70%)
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okay thanks!
And by flashing the zip I meant the flash able zip file, not the Odin file...

Evil Genius Jr. said:
okay thanks!
And by flashing the zip I meant the flash able zip file, not the Odin file...
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OK. Because you do NOT want to get that term mixed up and you do not want to flash a flushable zip using odim. Very bad idea. Odin uses tar files which sometimes comes zipped up (not flashable via recovery)
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Anyway to stop losing root & recovery?

So is there anyway to keep my recovery or root when I flash an ota update?
If there is no way. Then anyway to install cwm and root from just the phone?
I do my updates etc when I have down time and that's usually on lunch or when my laptop is not around so handling everything from the phone would be very nice.
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rans0m00 said:
So is there anyway to keep my recovery or root when I flash an ota update?
If there is no way. Then anyway to install cwm and root from just the phone?
I do my updates etc when I have down time and that's usually on lunch or when my laptop is not around so handling everything from the phone would be very nice.
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You will lose root when flashing an OTA, but it is just one extra step to flash the SuperSU (takes less than a minute) to regain root. I keep the SuperSU file on my phone and just flash it from there.
I use TWRP, and haven't lost my custom recovery while flashing 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 yet.
(I stay stock rooted - you can't safely take OTA if you aren't on the stock ROM)

jj14 said:
You will lose root when flashing an OTA, but it is just one extra step to flash the SuperSU (takes less than a minute) to regain root. I keep the SuperSU file on my phone and just flash it from there.
I use TWRP, and haven't lost my custom recovery while flashing 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 yet.
(I stay stock rooted - you can't safely take OTA if you aren't on the stock ROM)
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I let it restart before I flashed root. And been using cwm just preference and its gone after the 4.4.1 flash and now the 4.4.2
Except root and recovery I am completely stock.
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rans0m00 said:
I let it restart before I flashed root. And been using cwm just preference and its gone after the 4.4.1 flash and now the 4.4.2
Except root and recovery I am completely stock.
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I haven't used CWM, so can't say. But with TWRP, I flashed the update, and let the phone start up fully. Then, when I saw that root was gone, I shut down and booted back into TWRP, and flashed SuperSU. and then, booted back up. TWRP is still there.
(I'm rooted, stock ROM with custom recovery as well)

I use TWRP also. I flash the OTA, then Flash the SuperSU and then I reboot. Have yet to lose root

So not really a way of keeping cwm or root... But this is how I did it without needing a computer with me.
Flashed updated in cwm... Then flashed root... Then reboot... Used ROM manager to reinstall cwm.... Everything is good to go.
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Or do like I do wait a couple of hours for one of the great devs we have here to give us a fully working updated stock rom with su and busybox built in.
All you can ask for from a rooted stock rom.

Download the system images and use flashify to flash all the files you need.
Sent from my Nexus 5

rans0m00 said:
So is there anyway to keep my recovery or root when I flash an ota update?
If there is no way. Then anyway to install cwm and root from just the phone?
I do my updates etc when I have down time and that's usually on lunch or when my laptop is not around so handling everything from the phone would be very nice.
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Get the pro version of SU by chainfire and check keep root

Valdeck said:
Get the pro version of SU by chainfire and check keep root
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^^^^ This
Survival mode FTW

Have the pro version. Will check that but would still lose cwm.
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New m8 wants to update

I just got my m8 and want to s-off but I'm traveling and won't be able to figure that out until I'm back on my pc next week. The update keeps prompting me to take it. Is it safe to do so? Sorry if this was already answered trying to figure out the best way to browse with tapatalk.
I don't have root or anything yet...
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I used Firewater's method for permanent root, s-off and custom recovery. If I allow my phone to update will I mess things up or lose root?

Same boat here... s-off, permanent root, TWRP
The update to 1.55 downloaded but when I tried to let it install it just rebooted my phone into TWRP and that was it. Rebooted back to system and I'm still on the 1.12.605.11 software. Checking software update status shows "Result: Update Failed,410"

N00bs. Lol. You need a stock recovery to flash an OTA. Also, I am s-off and I had a flashback to a stock recovery to flash the OTA . Everything is still fine and then I flashed back to a custom recovery no problem
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Totally a noob here, How do you flash to a stock recovery?
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You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
There are also videos on YouTube on flashing recoveries to the m8 if you need more help.
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Justintoxicated said:
I just got my m8 and want to s-off but I'm traveling and won't be able to figure that out until I'm back on my pc next week. The update keeps prompting me to take it. Is it safe to do so? Sorry if this was already answered trying to figure out the best way to browse with tapatalk.
I don't have root or anything yet...
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You can install the update, and when you have the chance you can s-off using the weaksauce/supersu/firewater method. I picked up a new M8 a couple nights ago and took the update, and afterwards did the temproot/firewater method and it worked just fine. Hope this helps.

I flashed stock recovery and tried the OTA and it failed twice. I can't seem to get it on my phone through any of the methods for some reason.

In order to install update, you need to have STOCK recovery and STOCK Rom....NOT debloated or with mods....STOCK.
Again, you need STOCK recovery using a STOCK Rom.
If you have modified the system in anyway, it WONT work until you put it back to STOCK.
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^you can have bloatware frozen and it'll work, just can't be removed.
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dadams312 said:
I flashed stock recovery and tried the OTA and it failed twice. I can't seem to get it on my phone through any of the methods for some reason.
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z-man79 said:
Totally a noob here, How do you flash to a stock recovery?
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KnightDavid said:
Same boat here... s-off, permanent root, TWRP
The update to 1.55 downloaded but when I tried to let it install it just rebooted my phone into TWRP and that was it. Rebooted back to system and I'm still on the 1.12.605.11 software. Checking software update status shows "Result: Update Failed,410"
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z-man79 said:
I used Firewater's method for permanent root, s-off and custom recovery. If I allow my phone to update will I mess things up or lose root?
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No need to take ota. Ota us our enemy. Lol. The ota has been pulled an you can simply flash the firmware an that's half of the ota an then flash a stock Rom based off 1.55 or install the backup that was posted of a pure stock 1.55 Rom. After those 2 things you will have the full ota. New radios everything.. flashing a stock recovery taking ota flashing back is not needed.
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Thanks guys it was annoying having that update keep popping up and no real computer to lookup info or soff. As for getting updates after roming the phone usually just wait for authors to incorporate the updates. But I did not realize you can't have two recoveries like you can on Motorola phones which is good to know.
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New to android here.
I rooted the device with WeakSauce and use Firewater for S-Off. I didn't flash any custom recoveries. I did freeze some apps with Titanium Backup. If I do the OTA, 1) will it work? and 2) will it remove my root and/or s-off?

NoFanboy said:
You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
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For clarification, after flashing the stockrecovery.img you posted and installing the update, there should be no problem flashing back to CWM recovery after the fact?
Thank you for your help and your time!

skivvies said:
For clarification, after flashing the stockrecovery.img you posted and installing the update, there should be no problem flashing back to CWM recovery after the fact?
Thank you for your help and your time!
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Nope there will be no problem.
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richii0207 said:
In order to install update, you need to have STOCK recovery and STOCK Rom....NOT debloated or with mods....STOCK.
Again, you need STOCK recovery using a STOCK Rom.
If you have modified the system in anyway, it WONT work until you put it back to STOCK.
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All your big words confuse me...will it work with custom rom's and recoveries?

I don't remember ever having to have stock recovery and stock rom for my old DNA to take an update. Normally devs would update their rom with the updates and all we had to do was fastboot flash the new radio.

NoFanboy said:
You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
There are also videos on YouTube on flashing recoveries to the m8 if you need more help.
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So I flash the file you linked to, thank you but when I try to get into recovery I get a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Seemed pretty straight forward.

sfreemanoh said:
All your big words confuse me...will it work with custom rom's and recoveries?
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Lol, I had to. I just know someone is going to start a thread saying "update won't work, it just boots into twrp"
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z-man79 said:
So I flash the file you linked to, thank you but when I try to get into recovery I get a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Seemed pretty straight forward.
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Hold the volume up button and pressed the power button to get to the recovery menu.

Next Update?

Anyone know when the next update will be for the Verizon M8?

Tomorrow.
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Quadrider10 said:
Anyone know when the next update will be for the Verizon M8?
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We just an update last week. Nobody will have this answer.
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im debating when to root my M8... i want to root it and get TWRP but still want the OTA updates.

Quadrider10 said:
im debating when to root my M8... i want to root it and get TWRP but still want the OTA updates.
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Just like with this last ota, devs we'll have flashable zips within a day or two. You won't miss anything by being rooted. Flash away my friend.

cntryby429 said:
Just like with this last ota, devs we'll have flashable zips within a day or two. You won't miss anything by being rooted. Flash away my friend.
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so if i want to do the OTA update, i just have to flash the stock recovery or just flash the OTA in the custom recovery? after the OTA will i loose root? either way?
also is there an all in one toolbox for this stuff?

You gotta browse some threads, bro. All right here.
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1ManWolfePack said:
You gotta browse some threads, bro. All right here.
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ive been reading all night! lol
from what i got is that to do the OTAs i need to flash stock recovery than do update, then re-root and flash custom recovery again. but idk if i have to re-root if i flash the OTA via custom recovery?

Hey when I did the ota update dude didn't even have to flash stock recovery I just followed the instructions flashed via my computer with adb once that happened stock recovery will be back on so then you just have to reflash a custom recovery and that's it.
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Quadrider10 said:
ive been reading all night! lol
from what i got is that to do the OTAs i need to flash stock recovery than do update, then re-root and flash custom recovery again. but idk if i have to re-root if i flash the OTA via custom recovery?
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You can't get the ota with a custom recovery. You need the stock recovery then you take the ota then you can flash the custom recovery again and flash supersu if you lost root. Some lost root and some didn't. I did
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The purpose is to flash ROMs and if an update comes out, then wait for another ROM based on the update and never lose root. So flash away and enjoy the ride...

NoFanboy said:
You can't get the ota with a custom recovery. You need the stock recovery then you take the ota then you can flash the custom recovery again and flash supersu if you lost root. Some lost root and some didn't. I did
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To expound on that a bit more, OP - this is assuming you have S-OFF/Unlocked BL so then you are able to re-flash the recovery, and, thus, re-root by flashing Superuser.
At least, that's what I'm thinking is necessary. If not then someone can correct me if needed.... =x

[Q] Backup won't restore.

So I installed the lateat CM12 nightly, wasn't really impressed yet and went to go restore my backup and once it's done restoring, it get stuck at the bootscreen animation. Just keeps going and going abs going. I used the latest cwm touch recovery as CM12 is not compatible with MultiROM. I would just flash the factory img back but my computer decided to it doesn't ever want to recognize adb avid fastboot on Linux.
Anyone know where I can find a flashable zip for the factory 5.0.1 ROM? Any help would be appreciated!

Try googling Nexus 5 factory image...

Here's a flashable 5.0 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...-android-4-4-3-ktu84m-rooted-busybox-t2557523

Niflheimer said:
Here's a flashable 5.0 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...-android-4-4-3-ktu84m-rooted-busybox-t2557523
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Now I'm assuming I'd have to unroot it and flash stock recovery and lock the bootloader to get it to update to 5.0.1?

No, it's flashable in your custom recovery. It's 5.0 though
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Yeap , ota needs stock recovery. Also , switch to twrp since cwm isn't playing nice with L.

jd1639 said:
No, it's flashable in your custom recovery. It's 5.0 though
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I was talking about the 5.0.1 update but thanks.

Niflheimer said:
Yeap , ota needs stock recovery. Also , switch to twrp since cwm isn't playing nice with L.
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I'm on the stock ROM you linked too, stock recovery, and unrooted but, when I get the update for 5.0.1 and try and install it, I get an error. Do I need to relock my boatloader?

asd87 said:
I'm on the stock ROM you linked too, stock recovery, and unrooted but, when I get the update for 5.0.1 and try and install it, I get an error. Do I need to relock my boatloader?
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You're on a custom Rom. The ota isn't going to work. And you don't need to relock your bootloader. If you can afford to wipe your data download the 5.0.1 factory image. Extract it and use the flash-all.bat
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jd1639 said:
You're on a custom Rom. The ota isn't going to work. And you don't need to relock your bootloader. If you can afford to wipe your data download the 5.0.1 factory image. Extract it and use the flash-all.bat
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My computer is Linux, and adb and fastboot for whatever reason unknown to me, won't install. That's why I asked for a zip file of the factory image. Thanks for the help though.

asd87 said:
My computer is Linux, and adb and fastboot for whatever reason unknown to me, won't install. That's why I asked for a zip file of the factory image. Thanks for the help though.
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Well, unfortunately, there isn't a 5.0.1 flashable rom available right now. If you can't get fastboot to work on your Linux machine you're kind of sol as you need to be 100% stock to get the ota to work. That means stock recovery in your case. Google recovery zip collection xda. There's a custom recovery flashable stock recovery there.
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jd1639 said:
Well, unfortunately, there isn't a 5.0.1 flashable rom available right now. If you can't get fastboot to work on your Linux machine you're kind of sol as you need to be 100% stock to get the ota to work. That means stock recovery in your case. Google recovery zip collection xda. There's a custom recovery flashable stock recovery there.
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I have the stock 5.0 recovery that I installed through Flashify. I'll barrow a windows computer or something lol

asd87 said:
I have the stock 5.0 recovery that I installed through Flashify. I'll barrow a windows computer or something lol
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I'd work on getting adb/fastboot working on your Linux machine. You're going to need it in the long run.
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jd1639 said:
I'd work on getting adb/fastboot working on your Linux machine. You're going to need it in the long run.
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I've spent hours trying to get it work one night. I'll do some note searching for more advice and again thanks.

jd1639 said:
I'd work on getting adb/fastboot working on your Linux machine. You're going to need it in the long run.
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Did some more digging, got it install, and flashed the factory img for 5.0.1 and twrp recovery then superSU through twrp.
Mods please lock the thread thanks.

Get wugfreshes Toolbox. It has access to all factory images. Some people are not fans of "one click solutions" but this has never let me down.
There's a flushable zip on here also. Put it in a search in the app and you should come across it. It IS the full version.

Did you ever find out why the CWM restore led to getting stuck on boot animation??
Just ran into this last night. Tried restoring 2 different CWM backups and both got stuck on boot animation.
I eventually got a new ROM flashed. Going to try TWRP recovery I suppose.
I know I never had this problem with 4.4, this was the first time I have restored a LP ROM..

one7dchevy said:
Did you ever find out why the CWM restore led to getting stuck on boot animation??
Just ran into this last night. Tried restoring 2 different CWM backups and both got stuck on boot animation.
I eventually got a new ROM flashed. Going to try TWRP recovery I suppose.
I know I never had this problem with 4.4, this was the first time I have restored a LP ROM..
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My guess would be; cwm hasn't been optimized for Lollipop. Cyanogen has just recently started working on 5.0 and they probably haven't touched the recovery too much. But that's just my guess.

asd87 said:
My guess would be; cwm hasn't been optimized for Lollipop. Cyanogen has just recently started working on 5.0 and they probably haven't touched the recovery too much. But that's just my guess.
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Yea figured something like that.
Got TWRP installed, will try to update after my next nandroid restore so that any old CWM users will know..