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Ok so i've seen a few threads between here and other websites regarding the Note 3s battery issues but felt the need to make my own as I still haven't found any kind of solution.
I purchased my Note 3 N9005 (I live in the UK) around a month ago and ever since my battery has been terrible ever since. I am basing this on the fact that I have owned a Note 3 twice previously (I managed to get one just after they came out for a reasonable price second hand and also owned one around 6 months ago for a while) and battery life on those two devices were fantastic.
Around a week and a half ago I decided to root and try a couple of roms to see if it would make any difference after making sure it wasn't my SD card causing the problem and couldn't really try anything else. After going from the CMRemix, CM11 and Echoe 5.0 not a great deal changed on each after using each one for a couple of days, every day my battery gets hammered by 'android system' and 'android os'. After seeing a post about it I have gone back to stock touchwiz using the 4.4.2 Nordic firmware. This made no difference either.
I have posted some pictures of my battery life since getting up this morning. I always have sync turned off and my screen is always just above the minimum brightness. Im on Wifi a lot between work and home which in theory should use less power. I've been playing contest of champions quite a bit recently which I would expect to be a battery drainer but it is still beaten by my screen and this android system and OS combo. I also don't get why battery dropped around 18% (30 something to the 15% warning) in around 20 minutes which is the red line on the battery graph. Last Friday I went to sleep with my battery on around 78%, when I woke up it had dropped to 42% with no apps left running.
I'm literally out of ideas. I've tried everything i've seen on forums and it hasn't worked. I've owned an S5, m8 and z2 but ended up coming back to a note because they are simply fantastic phones. I am however seriously considering selling this and getting a different phone if I don't figure this out soon though. Can anyone help or is this simply an unsolvable problem caused by horrendous software implementation, or am I being stupid and should be content with 13 hours irregular battery life???
3mbers said:
Ok so i've seen a few threads between here and other websites regarding the Note 3s battery issues but felt the need to make my own as I still haven't found any kind of solution.
I purchased my Note 3 N9005 (I live in the UK) around a month ago and ever since my battery has been terrible ever since. I am basing this on the fact that I have owned a Note 3 twice previously (I managed to get one just after they came out for a reasonable price second hand and also owned one around 6 months ago for a while) and battery life on those two devices were fantastic.
Around a week and a half ago I decided to root and try a couple of roms to see if it would make any difference after making sure it wasn't my SD card causing the problem and couldn't really try anything else. After going from the CMRemix, CM11 and Echoe 5.0 not a great deal changed on each after using each one for a couple of days, every day my battery gets hammered by 'android system' and 'android os'. After seeing a post about it I have gone back to stock touchwiz using the 4.4.2 Nordic firmware. This made no difference either.
I have posted some pictures of my battery life since getting up this morning. I always have sync turned off and my screen is always just above the minimum brightness. Im on Wifi a lot between work and home which in theory should use less power. I've been playing contest of champions quite a bit recently which I would expect to be a battery drainer but it is still beaten by my screen and this android system and OS combo. I also don't get why battery dropped around 18% (30 something to the 15% warning) in around 20 minutes which is the red line on the battery graph. Last Friday I went to sleep with my battery on around 78%, when I woke up it had dropped to 42% with no apps left running.
I'm literally out of ideas. I've tried everything i've seen on forums and it hasn't worked. I've owned an S5, m8 and z2 but ended up coming back to a note because they are simply fantastic phones. I am however seriously considering selling this and getting a different phone if I don't figure this out soon though. Can anyone help or is this simply an unsolvable problem caused by horrendous software implementation, or am I being stupid and should be content with 13 hours irregular battery life???
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Thats just not normal, try to use app wakelock detector (from playstore) to see what apps are currently running, you can also go to the device app manager and then go to "running apps" and then see what apps are running on backround, that would give you a general idea of where are the battery draining apps. Then all you have to do is to disable/freeze them , using the inbuilt disable option under the app settings or using a third party program like app quarantine (from playstore). Note that i also recommend you disabling apps you dont use , like for example samsung apps etc.
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Thats just not normal, try to use app wakelock detector (from playstore) to see what apps are currently running, you can also go to the device app manager and then go to "running apps" and then see what apps are running on backround, that would give you a general idea of where are the battery draining apps. Then all you have to do is to disable/freeze them , using the inbuilt disable option under the app settings or using a third party program like app quarantine (from playstore). Note that i also recommend you disabling apps you dont use , like for example samsung apps etc.
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Thanks for the advice. I even ordered a new battery from samsung which arrived this morning but that doesn't seem to have made much difference either. If I hadn't seen similar cases to mine i'd think my phone was broken but honestly I'm starting to think that is down to samsung software and won't ever be fixed. It's a shame because the Note 3 is the best phone i've owned but ill be steering clear of samsung devices in the future
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Thanks for the advice. I even ordered a new battery from samsung which arrived this morning but that doesn't seem to have made much difference either. If I hadn't seen similar cases to mine i'd think my phone was broken but honestly I'm starting to think that is down to samsung software and won't ever be fixed. It's a shame because the Note 3 is the best phone i've owned but ill be steering clear of samsung devices in the future
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Use Greenify to hibernate apps..it will save ur battery..
Greenify is a big help. Also use Titanium Backup to freeze or uninstall anything with the word 'Samsung' in it that you don't need (they're terrible, in my experience).
Some other things that can help are turning off GPS and Bluetooth when you don't need them, raising your wi-fi scan interval if you typically leave wi-fi on in areas you're not connected, using an app like AutoStarts to control what apps wake up when, and you should check what apps you have auto-syncing, and how often. If you don't need gmail and facebook to sync every 5 minutes (just an example), then change the interval. And unless you spent a good bit of time playing it before you took those screenshots, I would highly recommend ditching that Champions game.
Aside from that, another thing you might want to consider is trying a different kernel. Some kernels are just bad on battery life.
I'm on my original, stock battery, and I get 22-26 hours typically, with moderate usage, and anywhere from 6-10+ hours of screen on time. Right now I'm sitting at 18h5m29s with 5h26m3s screen on, with 27% battery left.
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Greenify is a big help. Also use Titanium Backup to freeze or uninstall anything with the word 'Samsung' in it that you don't need (they're terrible, in my experience).
Some other things that can help are turning off GPS and Bluetooth when you don't need them, raising your wi-fi scan interval if you typically leave wi-fi on in areas you're not connected, using an app like AutoStarts to control what apps wake up when, and you should check what apps you have auto-syncing, and how often. If you don't need gmail and facebook to sync every 5 minutes (just an example), then change the interval. And unless you spent a good bit of time playing it before you took those screenshots, I would highly recommend ditching that Champions game.
Aside from that, another thing you might want to consider is trying a different kernel. Some kernels are just bad on battery life.
I'm on my original, stock battery, and I get 22-26 hours typically, with moderate usage, and anywhere from 6-10+ hours of screen on time. Right now I'm sitting at 18h5m29s with 5h26m3s screen on, with 27% battery left.
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Trying a custom kernel is something else I'd though about. It's crazy that you've got those battery stats. My brightness is always near minimum and I only get 4 hours on a good day. Judging from posts I've read those android os and system percentages are accurate for the note 3 nowadays. I never have sync turned on so that can't be the issue. I've got this phone on ebay now so if I don't sort this out in the next couple of days I'll be moving on unfortunately, bit sad as this is the best phone I've owned
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3mbers said:
Trying a custom kernel is something else I'd though about. It's crazy that you've got those battery stats. My brightness is always near minimum and I only get 4 hours on a good day. Judging from posts I've read those android os and system percentages are accurate for the note 3 nowadays. I never have sync turned on so that can't be the issue. I've got this phone on ebay now so if I don't sort this out in the next couple of days I'll be moving on unfortunately, bit sad as this is the best phone I've owned
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I'm in the same boat. Stock 4.3 with tons of apps frozen, greenify doing its thing and Google Play Services tamed as it was draining the battery. To me everything looks ok in WLD but I have noticed that something called 1013 which is always at the top with most amount of wakes, is that system audio? I also have screen brightness on minimum, powersaving mode on, bluetooth and gps off, sync on and most of the time usually on wifi networks.
I have managed 6hrs screen on before but when using device moderately over 2 days I get 4 hrs screen on time at best, usually 3 or 2.5 hrs.
The 6 hrs was managed when I watched 3 movies in a row, it seems sleep takes more than it should? Wake ups are a problem?
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I'm in the same boat. Stock 4.3 with tons of apps frozen, greenify doing its thing and Google Play Services tamed as it was draining the battery. To me everything looks ok in WLD but I have noticed that something called 1013 which is always at the top with most amount of wakes, is that system audio? I also have screen brightness on minimum, powersaving mode on, bluetooth and gps off, sync on and most of the time usually on wifi networks.
I have managed 6hrs screen on before but when using device moderately over 2 days I get 4 hrs screen on time at best, usually 3 or 2.5 hrs.
The 6 hrs was managed when I watched 3 movies in a row, it seems sleep takes more than it should? Wake ups are a problem?
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Yeah something has definitely gone wrong at the core of the phones software, especially when different roms and stock firmware builds are making no difference at all. I flashed AEL kernel yesterday so i'm seeing how that goes today. I'll post screenshots when i get home from work, so far my batteries only dropped 10% in 3 hours but thats with 30mins screen on time.
Had similar battery draining issues, I froze Unified Daemon (EUR) this appears to have fixed it.
I have faced this issue after my phone got the last update.
Even the android system was consuming more than the screen.
I removed Google account and put it back again but this time i limited the Google features that do the sync to the required only, gave a full recharge, the second day the android system consumption decrease a bit.
I gave it a full recharge cycle each day for the next 3 days and later it came back to normal.
I hope that helps.
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I had the same problem. for months and no solution anywhere. what I did was to downgrade back to jellybean. this is the only thing that seemed to stop the drain. though I still believe my battery was much better on the initial jellybean.
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Hi everyone
So, I recently encountered a battery issue with my Honor 6... Let me explain.
Device Details:
- Model: Honor 6 (H60-L04)
- OS: Stock Android 4.4.2 (EMUI 3.0)
- Never rooted or unlocked
I bought this device in June, at first everything was ok. For two months I used the best phone I could ever get for 299€, here in Italy.
Now, about a week ago, I started to notice some strange behavior of the battery. It was like suddenly the charge level dropped incredibly, leaving the device without energy pretty fast.
This morning was the worst. After an hour of standard usage (Wi-Fi ON, Social Apps, a couple of YouTube 1080p videos) the battery reached 89-90%. Before I go to sleep, as I usually do, I turned off my phone. Then, when I woke up and turned it back on, the battery level was 50%!!!
I know that this kind of behavior could be considered normal after a couple of years, for a Lithium battery, but I used this device only for TWO MONTHS! Do you have any idea if this is a common issue? Or maybe it's MY phone that is faulty. Hope you can help.
UPDATE: Day 2, same exact behavior. Turn off with 91% or something like that. Turned back on in the morning, battery level 49%
Suggest you head to the thread of extreme battery life by Vaisakh 7 and post the dumps per his OP (please google having trouble in copying link)
Pretty sure you will get an answer
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What's up xda guys and gals? I'm at a point where I've just reached the end of my wits and I'm about to just give up entirely over this. I've spent countless hours reading, for weeks, months, and now a few years off and on trying to find a solution to this... but even with the help of some pals here on the forums, I'm at a total loss.
Ever since we went to 5.0 Lollipop, my battery drain during use (As in, general use like web browsing, messaging, reading, emailing, etc) has just become out of control. Like, I'm talking extreme and it doesn't matter what device I use O.O , Yeah... Basically, whether I am reading, emailing, browsing, I on average lose about 1% every 1-2 minutes. Phones always running hot, I've tried underclocking, minimum brightness, under volting. Nothing fixes it...
I've had this issue on:
The OnePlus One (Only after 5.0, never on KK)
The Moto X 2nd gen
The Moto X Pure
The Nexus 6p
The HTC M9
The HTC 10
The Xperia Z2 and Z3
Now...for a quick recap of what I do on my devices... I never use auto sync, everything is set to manual, location is off, location scanning is off, wifi scanning is off, bluetooth is only on while I am in the car (bluetooth use is really on 2015+), almost always manual brightness, never turned above 50%, if auto is used I still limited it to 50% as a max. No games are ever played (mobile games aren't real games), No 3D stuff, or other heavy gpu related nonsense.
With these things in mind... Here is my battery history. Only with major milestones to indicate progression.
From the first to the last (oldest to newest device)
Galaxy S2 - Average runtime of 15-17 hours with 1.5-2.5 hours of SOT. (Although 2.5 wasn't till I learned to root and used roms, so very late)
Galaxy S3 - Average runtime of 16-18 hours, 2-3 hours of SOT.
Galaxy S4 - Average Runtime of 18-21 hours, 3-4 hours of SOT
Moto X 1st Gen - Average Runtime of 19-24 hours, 5-6 hours SOT.
HTC M8 - Average Runtime of 18-30 hours, 5-5.5 hours of SOT
OnePlus One - Average Runtime of 20-35 hours, 6-8 hours of SOT. (Average was about 7, but was lower for a while when I was streaming 20GB of youtube/music a month over LTE.
What do I get currently on my newer OnePlus one? Between Cos12.1-CM13 (Tried different ones over time), a average runtime of 10-15 hours with 2-3.5 hours of SOT, 4 if I am lucky. HOWEVER...if I do not use the phone, at all, like ZERO usage it will show 1-2 days of standby, if I use it for more than 5 minutes, it will say like 4 hours.
WTF happened?
Now... the the other phones I listed above that I had the same issue with, were all mostly similar. The OPO is the only device out of that group that can go over 3 hours of SOT for me. When I had a Moto X Pure, I actually completely drained it in 3 hours and 22 minutes. As in, Not like 12 hours and then 3 hours 22 minutes of SOT, I mean 3 hours and 22 minutes of COMPLETE RUN TIME. That was just a collective of messaging, reading, browsing the web and some videos over wifi, never higher than 720p. Nothing out of my norm at all...
I went through 5 different Moto X Pure's, I just thought... "I have to have a crap one, it cannot be this bad". But I gave up after the 5th.
The only device I've used that gave me ROCK solid battery life on something running 5.0+ was the Nexus 6, It felt like a normal phone to me, but that dang ascending ringtone just killed it for me. Although now days I need waaaaaay more than 64GB, but i digress.
My question is... am I going nuts? Or did android just become extremely power inefficient after 5.0+? What happened? I just honestly cannot imagine that phones are this garbage with battery now days, I am a power user in terms of reading, messaging, and such, but I don't game or steam 1440p videos over LTE all day like some folks do. How on earth do people even use phones like that today? With all my efforts to be as battery economical as possible, it's horrible by 4.4 and under standards, what is it like for people who don't try to conserve at all? 1 hour phones? I'm seriously just at a loss...
Now, I know most of you will say "post battery stats", and I can do so if someone wishes...but it's never helped me find anything. There are no applications consuming like 80% of the power, it all just... looks normal, just Android System always around 12%-15%. I've tried multiple battery stat applications, I've sent stats to friends on xda, and so far it's just "normal". It basically feels like every phone I touch just magically has its' battery reduced to 1000 mah or something. I just... I'm seriously at a loss.
Can someone shed some light on this? Am I crazy? Or did 5.0+ just zap up the power?
Thanks
Hi,
Previously I successfully rooted LS966 and bricked while flashing ROM (Lesson Learnt) and paid a bomb to repair the motherboard.
I now have H955 - 15B. I successfully rooted the phone via online remote connect help, because I felt it would be cheaper than last time. After rooting,
Debloated mostly all google Bloatware and few system apps based on a list from another discussion on XDA,
Installed Pimp My CPU and reduced to 1230 Mhz
Doze to block background data traffic
Greenify to stop background processes.
This has been quite a versatile combination for me and the battery doesn't drop by even 1% until the screen is on.
Once the screen is on I am losing 1% of battery every 3 - 5 mins.
I am getting a Screen On Time of 3Hrs.45Mins only.
I have also read up on Battery Calibration issue and this is my second full charge - full discharge cycle.
But the battery percentages are still going down at the same speed.
My screen is drinking above 50% of my juice at 100% brightness. I tried to change that few times but it is more or less same.
Earlier it used to be around 15 to 30%. I am attaching current consumption picture.
While I am enjoying a good Stand By Time of upto 12 to 14 hrs, my Screen on Time is reduced to 3hrs 45Mins.
Is this normal?
Or I am missing something?
Is it the way ROM was flashed on old built before rooting because of soft brick while rooting?
Any indication will be of immense help. Many
Many Thanks.
Seems the way it should be. Changed my battery almost a week ago and I get maybe close to 4 hours of SOT, depends how you use your phone, I use it at 80% brightness though and standby time while it's just sitting on the table is days. :good: N.B. Using android 6.0.1, although it used to be pretty much the same on 5.1.1, maybe less standby time.
Also I'm pretty sure Pimp My CPU shouldn't be compatible with this phone because of the kernel and lockdowns. Maybe they've found some kind of loophole, doubt it though.
Also for the battery calibration, I fully discharge every month to 0% and then charge it to 100% while not using it and once it hits 100% it's good to go. Just the way I do it, not everyone does it the same.
Also, I never trust remote help of any kind, who knows what crap they might do, and even though I am an amateur at android rooting and flashing, I've done it myself every time cause I don't trust remote stuff.
And depending if you want root or not, you could use android 5.1.1 15c(although I don't know if the difference between 15b and 15c is that big) with root or android 6.0.1 20c without root. It's rather simple to root on 5.1.1 though, so many guides here, as long as you follow them to the letter.
You don't have to agree with what I've written here, it's just my opinion.
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Seems the way it should be. Changed my battery almost a week ago and I get maybe close to 4 hours of SOT, depends how you use your phone, I use it at 80% brightness though and standby time while it's just sitting on the table is days. :good: N.B. Using android 6.0.1, although it used to be pretty much the same on 5.1.1, maybe less standby time.
Also I'm pretty sure Pimp My CPU shouldn't be compatible with this phone because of the kernel and lockdowns. Maybe they've found some kind of loophole, doubt it though.
Also for the battery calibration, I fully discharge every month to 0% and then charge it to 100% while not using it and once it hits 100% it's good to go. Just the way I do it, not everyone does it the same.
You don't have to agree with what I've written here, it's just my opinion.
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Are you sure you get close to 4Hrs of SOT on a brand new battery because I get 3 Hrs and 50 Mins or so but less than 4 Hrs on a phone which is 6 months old. Never changed the battery. If that is the case then I think I am doing alright. I have seen SOT Tests of phones like Pixel and One Plus T.
I dnt think pimp my ROM has any restrictions. It kind of works smoothly. It helps me cool down the hot CPU also. I have ovecome the dreaded overheating issues of G Flex 2 easily with clocking my CPU.
I have done the battery calibration. But it quite didn't help me.
I went paranoid because immediately after the root I started to observe the battery percentage on the top. And I felt its falling drastically. But on the other end my stand by time has gone upto 15 hrs. The battery doesn't drop even by a single percent until the screen is on. Once it is on it goes down drastically.
I think of the battery calibration as kind of a safeguard, it's not a necessity.
The pixel and oneplus are different beasts altogether.
Also, as your phone is only 6 months old then it's battery should be ok and as I stated before battery life depends how one uses their phone, I tend to play a few games here and there with 80% brightness and such so it takes a bit more on my end. I personally haven't seen over 4 hours of SOT with my phone ever since I've had it, but your mileage may vary.
As for the PIMP my CPU, if it works for you good, I personally moved over to 6.0.1. When I was changing my battery I removed the motherboard out of curiosity to see how the thermal pad is and only one edge was touching the frame, so I added some Arctic MX-4 thermal paste between the frame and thermal pad and the temps are surprisingly better now. Still tends to get hotter than it should but throttles a lot less now and the screen brightness doesn't forcibly drop below 80% now, even when gaming. It used to drop to 50% etc before when just browsing the web. Anyways, that's that.
It might be some background stuff eating your battery too if you had better battery life than you do now, or it might be because of the motherboard change. Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to say for sure. Also, the more you look at the battery percentage the worse it looks
Sincerely,
Azure Potato
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I think of the battery calibration as kind of a safeguard, it's not a necessity.
The pixel and oneplus are different beasts altogether.
Also, as your phone is only 6 months old then it's battery should be ok and as I stated before battery life depends how one uses their phone, I tend to play a few games here and there with 80% brightness and such so it takes a bit more on my end. I personally haven't seen over 4 hours of SOT with my phone ever since I've had it, but your mileage may vary.
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Pixel is too expensive for me honestly and I am not really into expensive phones like iPhone or Pixel.
I am quite happy with G Flex 2's performance and I was only worried about SOT of 4 Hrs. I re calibrated battery and discharged and charged again 100% Thrice.
Somehow battery last over 15 hours after rooting. For example, its 3PM and I have 70% battery left even with SOT of 90 mins of movie. That is 1Hour30Mins.
And you're right, the more you look at battery. the more complicated it gets :laugh:
After rooting - Greenify + Pimp My ROM + Doze + Uninstall System Apps - combination is giving me 15 hrs of usage per day. It more or less includes phone calls, WiFi browsing, Network Data Browsing, Some videos and crazy amount of Twitter, all put together through out the day.
But I am still interested in SOT per single charge.
Interesting.... Same problem here
I'm on 20A, 6.0.1
You're sitting on about the expected SOT. I get anywhere from 4-5 hours and almost never take my brightness off 0%. I'm running a fully debloated 15c setup, same as yours except a version increment higher. The most intensive thing I do on here is install new apps, no gaming or anything. If you have the Facebook app, try switching to Facebook Lite which you can download off APK Mirror. Does everything the normal app does but without all the bloat, it's only a couple MB. Apart from all the tweaks you've already listed, there's not much else we can do. I've always wondered why screen takes the most battery usage by far, maybe it's just the screen type we have. Screen off is great, I lose less than 3% every night including background updates. Screen drains at about the same rate yours does.
i´ve been using the mate 9(l09) for about 9 months and at the start the battery life was the best i had experienced in a smartphone, after a month the battery life was noticeably lower(4hr 30min hr sot) that when i got it. i was on some weird latin firmware(mha-l09c212b181) and rebranded to l09-C432B198 hoping to get more sot but only got about 10 more min.
Any suggestions of firmware?or should i replace battery? whats your experience?
What's your daily usage like?
Maybe you've installed a rogue app that's draining your juice?
Been using my phone for a year now and I still hit 9 or 10 hours of sot.
YMMV, i would trace back on what app you installed before the whole issue occurred, if not worst case scenario is to hard reset everything, make sure to back up all your stuff.
If no change then either your usage habits are greater than when you got the phone or a defect in the battery
One year using this phone and Im still able to get 9 to 10 hrs SoT within 2 day usage. I used fb and fb messenger a lot (4-5 hrs), web browsing + video (2-3 hrs) and of course 2 hrs of playing games. It's still a beast for me right now, no phone can replace it, maybe mate 10 or other Kirin chip phones. For me, Kirin is extremely good in managing battery and multi task, my phone is always smooth and fast as hell lol
My phone is so much better on Oreo battery life.i don't know how you get so long sot other poster are you on wifi with good cell reception all day.
. I get around 5-6 hours
Been away for some time son no time to reply. im going to factory rest on the weekend and only install the basic social media so i can get more SOT than im getting now. If this works ill install apps one by one and see if one is draining the battery. Otherwise i will concider a battery replacement.
anyone know a better way of tracking the apps that drain battery?