Absurd Battery Drain during use, Any Device, never was a problem till 5.0+ - General Questions and Answers

What's up xda guys and gals? I'm at a point where I've just reached the end of my wits and I'm about to just give up entirely over this. I've spent countless hours reading, for weeks, months, and now a few years off and on trying to find a solution to this... but even with the help of some pals here on the forums, I'm at a total loss.
Ever since we went to 5.0 Lollipop, my battery drain during use (As in, general use like web browsing, messaging, reading, emailing, etc) has just become out of control. Like, I'm talking extreme and it doesn't matter what device I use O.O , Yeah... Basically, whether I am reading, emailing, browsing, I on average lose about 1% every 1-2 minutes. Phones always running hot, I've tried underclocking, minimum brightness, under volting. Nothing fixes it...
I've had this issue on:
The OnePlus One (Only after 5.0, never on KK)
The Moto X 2nd gen
The Moto X Pure
The Nexus 6p
The HTC M9
The HTC 10
The Xperia Z2 and Z3
Now...for a quick recap of what I do on my devices... I never use auto sync, everything is set to manual, location is off, location scanning is off, wifi scanning is off, bluetooth is only on while I am in the car (bluetooth use is really on 2015+), almost always manual brightness, never turned above 50%, if auto is used I still limited it to 50% as a max. No games are ever played (mobile games aren't real games), No 3D stuff, or other heavy gpu related nonsense.
With these things in mind... Here is my battery history. Only with major milestones to indicate progression.
From the first to the last (oldest to newest device)
Galaxy S2 - Average runtime of 15-17 hours with 1.5-2.5 hours of SOT. (Although 2.5 wasn't till I learned to root and used roms, so very late)
Galaxy S3 - Average runtime of 16-18 hours, 2-3 hours of SOT.
Galaxy S4 - Average Runtime of 18-21 hours, 3-4 hours of SOT
Moto X 1st Gen - Average Runtime of 19-24 hours, 5-6 hours SOT.
HTC M8 - Average Runtime of 18-30 hours, 5-5.5 hours of SOT
OnePlus One - Average Runtime of 20-35 hours, 6-8 hours of SOT. (Average was about 7, but was lower for a while when I was streaming 20GB of youtube/music a month over LTE.
What do I get currently on my newer OnePlus one? Between Cos12.1-CM13 (Tried different ones over time), a average runtime of 10-15 hours with 2-3.5 hours of SOT, 4 if I am lucky. HOWEVER...if I do not use the phone, at all, like ZERO usage it will show 1-2 days of standby, if I use it for more than 5 minutes, it will say like 4 hours.
WTF happened?
Now... the the other phones I listed above that I had the same issue with, were all mostly similar. The OPO is the only device out of that group that can go over 3 hours of SOT for me. When I had a Moto X Pure, I actually completely drained it in 3 hours and 22 minutes. As in, Not like 12 hours and then 3 hours 22 minutes of SOT, I mean 3 hours and 22 minutes of COMPLETE RUN TIME. That was just a collective of messaging, reading, browsing the web and some videos over wifi, never higher than 720p. Nothing out of my norm at all...
I went through 5 different Moto X Pure's, I just thought... "I have to have a crap one, it cannot be this bad". But I gave up after the 5th.
The only device I've used that gave me ROCK solid battery life on something running 5.0+ was the Nexus 6, It felt like a normal phone to me, but that dang ascending ringtone just killed it for me. Although now days I need waaaaaay more than 64GB, but i digress.
My question is... am I going nuts? Or did android just become extremely power inefficient after 5.0+? What happened? I just honestly cannot imagine that phones are this garbage with battery now days, I am a power user in terms of reading, messaging, and such, but I don't game or steam 1440p videos over LTE all day like some folks do. How on earth do people even use phones like that today? With all my efforts to be as battery economical as possible, it's horrible by 4.4 and under standards, what is it like for people who don't try to conserve at all? 1 hour phones? I'm seriously just at a loss...
Now, I know most of you will say "post battery stats", and I can do so if someone wishes...but it's never helped me find anything. There are no applications consuming like 80% of the power, it all just... looks normal, just Android System always around 12%-15%. I've tried multiple battery stat applications, I've sent stats to friends on xda, and so far it's just "normal". It basically feels like every phone I touch just magically has its' battery reduced to 1000 mah or something. I just... I'm seriously at a loss.
Can someone shed some light on this? Am I crazy? Or did 5.0+ just zap up the power?
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[Q] What is "normal" battery life?

I switched from an old WinMo 6.5 (Verizon Imagio) to G2x. Absolutely love it, except the battery life (there is backlight bleed too, but not too annoying).
But when I read thread here, seems my battery life is kind of okay?
1) Went to sleep at 1:20am. Phone had Gmail sync, Exchange sync every 15 minutes, News & Weather widget, and ScoreMobile widget. Checked battery at 5:40am, it was down 11%. So roughly 10% battery every 4 hours. This means 40 hours battery life if I leave the phone idle.
2) Today I wanted to drain the battery then give it a full charge. So I factory reset device twice (each time it automatically downloaded all 28 apps I installed before). A 1 minute phone call. About 1 hour web browsing. 10 minute Goolge Maps Navigation. Tweeked settings of my favorate text reader and read a novel for about 2 hours. Then watched YouTube for 30 minutes. Other time, phone was left in my pocket. Battery lasted about 11 hours.
So, is it normal battery life for G2x? With CM7, is it possible I can extend the battery life to 16 hours in scenario 2?
I think it is NOT normal battery life because when reading the novel (screen brightness at 20%), I can see 1% battery drop every 3 minutes!!! The text reader just displays static text until I flip page. My reading speed is about 2 pages/minute.
Compared to my WM 6.5 device, I barely notice any battery drain when using the same text reader app (WM version of course), same book and same reading speed.
Well people have found that the only issue with android really is the damn battery! some live through it, some buy extended batteries (like myself) and others just don't feel it since they are used to charging regularly. When compared to winmo 6.5 android is just doing so much more in the background comparitively even though winmo 6's multitasking is pretty neat. I guess other thigns to consider would be your screen resolution and that damn 14.whatever hsdpa chip you got in there!
Btw if you are using a app killer, i suggest try taking it off and see if you feel any diffrence.. i did.. i just found out the rogue app and said good bye to task killers and my battery was a little bit more promising then since it was on an aggressive kill certain app more earlier.
One thing though if you were to put the phone on a stanby time you will notice that it could really last but when doing something you can as you said practically seen it burn fuel, I guess the advancements in tech/screens/etc are just way beyond todays batteries!
I found my stock 2.1 doing much much MUCH better than CM7 or 6 even though people say Cyanogen was doing much better on some phones in terms of battery.
Can somebody post the battery life of their Vibrator compared to this phone?
I'm so mad, U mad?
I had mine off charger for maybe a total of 15mins cause I was deleting stuffoff the sdcard and battery was full it dropped 3% within 15mins
I had my myt4g with miui rom idle with wifi on for awhile yesterday and it didn't drop a % until I used it but even then it still hardly was draining. This LG drains way to fast!!
The battery life WILL improve over the first few charges. My Nexus S was TERRIBLE when I got it. 8-10 hours max. After 2 weeks or so, I was getting 25-30 hours of moderate usage.
The G2x I got ~ 14 hours of usage right out of the gate. I'm on full charge cycle 3 or 4 now, and I'm already over 19 hours. Hoping I can end up at around 25 hours or so.
The batteries AND the OS need time to 'learn' each other. The batteries need to break in as well with a full COMPLETE charge cycles. IE charge too 100% and use it until it dies, then charge fully. It also helps to leave it on the charger for about 8 hours PAST it hitting 100% the first time for some reason.

Hows your battery life?

I got my HTC One Mini yesterday and I'm getting pretty good battery life so far, how is it for you guys?
I'm using jmz's Stock Rooted Odex WWE Rom and Jmz M4 Kernel 9-04-13. I unplugged my phone around 9 AM this morning and it's now 1:45 AM and I'm at 48%.
I installed 12 apps, torrented a 315MB file using uTorrent @ about 600 kb/s, watched 23 minutes of 720p video using MX Player with hardware decoding, watched about 15 minutes of YouTube videos, went on Facebook for about 20 minutes, browsed the internet for about 5 minutes, browsed a forum using Tapatalk for about 15 minutes, made about 5 minutes of calls, sent/received about 20 texts, read a manga chapter, used it as a flashlight for about a minute, used it as a remote for XBMC for about 2 hours, flashed a kernel, and took a couple of pictures, a 30 second 1080p video, and a Zoe to test out the Camera. All of this was over Wi-Fi.
I think I could easily get 2 days out of the battery as my typical usage would be lighter. How is the battery life for you and what Rom/Kernal are you using?
Stock UK Vodafone Rom recently updated with the it's package.
Well...I am sadly unimpressed by the battery. I've had mine now for just under a month and don't get a day.
I use it to surf the BBC website (in mobile mode) over 3g and at other tines WiFi.
I make calls about 30-60mins a day and play a version of bubble breaker.
I can literally see the power drain when surfing the web. This us the single most draining activity...much worse than when I used my desire.
I have configured all power save options, disabled all non essential apps, and ensured the phone is not burning background or unnecessary apps.
Still it goes rapidly. It's a shame but I like the phone so will live with it.
2 days...yes if all you do is make calls. Anything more demanding not a chance I'm afraid. I have tried, a lot.
So it is now 1.10pm and I have 52% and at 9 am I had 100%. No video no gaming but a mix of BBC on WiFi and 3g (i have a femtocell so no burning power while looking for a signal).
Nice phone in so many ways but battery life, in call quality and control, are very poor.
All the best,
Sam
I am planning to buy HTC one mini, Wanted to get real idea of battery life, so this was helpful. Could you laso tell me if that 1GB RAM is a problem maybe once you have 60-70 apps ? I thinking of 2 years life at least so was concerned?
zopeon said:
I am planning to buy HTC one mini, Wanted to get real idea of battery life, so this was helpful. Could you laso tell me if that 1GB RAM is a problem maybe once you have 60-70 apps ? I thinking of 2 years life at least so was concerned?
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For me it isn't too much of an issue, but they really should have equipped it with 2 GB of memory, 1 GB has been the standard for about 2 years. I have 42 user apps installed and most of the time I can have multiple apps open without any slow downs. Occasionally if I have multiple heavy apps running (Maps, Facebook, Pandora, Chrome ect.) it can slow down due to the lack of memory, but if I close one it speeds right back up. If you read any reviews you'll hear something along the lines of it's stupid that they only gave this phone 1GB of memory, but for most people it won't be a problem which I agree with. I'd suggest trying it out at a local store before buying it. Different people will see things differently, to some the HTC One Mini and S4 Mini will seem slow compared to the regular One and the S4, to others it will seem very fast.
ok guys please keep in mind that your mobile connection eats your power rly ****ing bad. I did a lot of tests with the mini and i'm was even able to get 5days with 25% left. Camera or wachting videos coast a lot of power as well but music is ok that does not need that much power.
Its all about your connections and how good the signal is, so if you want a longer battery life only use wifi.
The device has smaller screen size, lower resolution, half the number of cores, lower clock speed, lower powered GPU, half the RAM, no NFC or OIS. It should get *better* battery life than the full-sized one all things considered, though the smaller battery will definitely even this out somewhat. I wouldn't be surprised if under typical moderate-high usage involving CPU and screen this device should hold out similarly to the HTC One but in standby, etc it will be a bit lower.
Notebookcheck and GSMArena have done thorough battery testing, though notebookcheck doesn't test standby time and GSMArena's standby time testing method is a bit suspect.
Anandtech haven't published a review of the Mini yet but in their review of the Galaxy Note 3 you can see some battery tests they did of the HTC One Mini and it holds out pretty well considering it's not a phablet.
I bought mine two weeks ago. On the first week, my battery just last 10 hours at least and after a few days of experimentation of various settings and process monitoring, I can last 24 hours with still 20% remaining.
My daily usage can be define as quite conservative as I'm busy at work most of the day.
Here's my activities to give you an idea:
Call - at least 3 minutes a day
SMS - least 20 messages a day
browsing via HSPA / 3G - at least 1 hour a day
browsing via wifi - at least 1 hour a day
playing games - at least 30 minutes a day
reading / composing / sending emails - I set this to manual, at least 5 times a day (when I'm at home)
Frequently Used Apps:
Chrome
stock Calendar
stock Mail
Keep
stock Music Player
Cordy
Twitter
ES Task Manager
ES File Explorer
Google Play
Youtube
System Panel
Disabled Apps:
Facebook
Linkedin
SoundHound
7 Digital
Google Search
Google+
Hangouts
Kid Mode
Maps
Plurk
Hope this can help somebody to have an idea.
No matter what the phone, you tend to see battery life tests showing 8+ hours of web browsing battery life. However, real life never matches up to this expectation, with 3 or 4 hours of web browsing much more typical. This is the case with all smartphones - even a device like the Note 2 or Note 3 (albeit with higher expectations to begin with: - a Note 2/3 may tests 11+ hours web browsing but typically get 4.5+ in real-life conditions).
Unfortunately this leads many to believe that their brand new device (or its battery) is faulty. But in most cases this is not true.
I'll attempt to explain the real reason for the discrepancy.
Most importantly, the battery life tests are exclusively limited to that activity or task. For example, fully charging the smartphone, continuously web browsing for 8+ hours until the phone dies. In reality when we use our phones, the phone will be on standby, or doing other tasks, at other times. For example, 8+ hours of web browsing from a full charge is not the same as getting 8+ hours of web browsing over a 16 hour day. Those other 8 hours, even if the phone are on standby, are going to use up some of your battery, too.
The single biggest battery drain of a device is usually going to be the screen, unless you have specifically forced the screen brightness to a low (<33%) amount. At full brightness, a smartphone may burn through battery after only 3.5 hours of web browsing even if it could last 8+ hours at 40% screen brightness (the brightness control is not usually linear in terms of power draw). Review sites tend to standardise on a particular brightness level that is relatively low (the reason for this is often that allows fair comparison with devices that just can't get as bright). The bottom line is that 8+ hours of screen on time at lowish brightness might drop to half that or lower if you let auto-brightness bring up the brightness during the daylight hours or when outdoors, or if you prefer higher brightnesses.
Often, battery life tests will be done over wifi with mobile phone reception disabled entirely. This is not realistic as with a smartphone you're usually connected to a cell tower even while you're using wifi, so that voice calls and texts can still come through. Also, cellular uses a lot more energy while idle than wifi does. So even if you set the brightness really low and do nothing else with the phone, you still shouldn't be surprised that you can't get 8+ hours of web browsing if you also have the phone connected to a cell tower in the background. Some sites will conduct battery life tests over the cellular network instead of wifi, and typically these will get much lower battery life ratings (eg. 4+ hours, even with the same brightness level as for the wifi test).
Bottom line is, don't head back to the shop if you only get 3 to 4 hours screen on time during the day with web browsing. This is entirely normal for *some* usage patterns. You can improve it by:
Disable auto-brightness and set the brightness to a low-ish value, say 30%-40% of maximum. This might be able to double your screen-on time compared to full brightness.
Avoid using the phone much in direct sunlight. For the brightness to be high enough to read in direct sunlight, you'll be burning through your battery quickly, and if you've set the brightness manually to a low level as advised above, you won't be able to read it in direct sunlight.
Connect to wifi (but of course, only if you trust the wifi network to be secure and respect your privacy).
Realise that if you ever play CPU- or GPU-intensive games (most casual games shouldn't fit in this category) then a beefier battery or external battery booster may be a good investment. There's not much you can do about their battery use.
Only after considering the above should you hunt through battery usage analysers and wakelock detectors. In many cases even a misbehaving wakelock that keeps your phone partially awake all day has a low impact compared to having the screen on full brightness for just 20 or 30 minutes.

The battery life thread

Every smartphone has this thread so I thought I might start one!
This devices is famous for having below average battery life, let's find out if this got better with MM since reviews were made with LL?
Please use BBS or GSAM battery to show uptime, screen on time, wifi or mobile data (really important). Also describe your app usage.
Thanks!:good:
I've never found battery life to be all that bad. In fact, as far as I'm concerned, I find it quite good most of the time.
Personally, I find these claims you read about all the time, where people claim to get a full day (or two!), and have 4-6 hours of screen on time, very hard to believe, and I call b.s. most of the time on those claims.
As far as GSam goes, I've used it on and off throughout the years, since my OG Droid in 2010, and I found that the information in GSam differed, or contradicted the information in the stock Android battery stats, and I questioned its accuracy, so I ended up uninstalling it LOL.
In general, though, I'd say my battery life is pretty good. Here's a typical day for my X Pure, and you all can tell me if you agree or disagree:
My phone comes off the charger at around 7 AM, just before my 40 minute train ride in to the city. During my train ride, I send a few texts, then I tether my X Pure to my Nexus 9 so I can get online with the N9 during my commute. Tethering lasts about 30 minutes. After the initial train ride comes the subway ride where I use the phone for reading articles on Google Play Newsstand and checking work emails for about 10 minutes. Once at work, I leave it off the charger, and throughout the day, check emails (work and personal), send/receive texts throughout the day, miscellaneous other usage, etc. By around 4:00, I usually have to put in on the quick charger. At that time, my screen-on time is on average between 1 to 1.5 hours, with 9 hours off the charger. Usually 35-40% battery left by that time.
Now, 9 hours off the charger, 1.5 hours of SOT, 30-40 minutes of tethering, and moderate usage throughout the 9-hours off the charger, I say that's pretty damn good! Weekends I can go 15-17 hours off the charger. Thoughts?
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Well tethering does use a lot of power but 1.5h of SOT is pretty bad IMHO.
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Well tethering does use a lot of power but 1.5h of SOT is pretty bad IMHO.
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Normally I would agree, but I factor in the time off the charger as well. If it was within a few hours, definitely. But over 9 hours--with moderate to heavy usage, I'm happy with that. I also forgot to mention I probably have a lot of crap going on in the background. I have 3 different weather apps right now (I'm a weather geek), one of which is a lightning strike detector that alerts when lightning is nearby. We are expecting thunderstorms later so it may keep the phone awake. Once I get through today (hopefully I will remember lol), I will post screen shots of battery usage. But overall I am happy with what I get. Over the years, I've had the OG Droid, HTC Rezound, 2013 Moto X, and now the X Pure. The Droid and Rezound's battery life was pretty bad, but has been much better with both the 2013 X and the X Pure. Maybe my standards are lower due to having 2 prior phones with notoriously bad battery life.
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Yes one's impression depends a lot on what you're coming from also. You should check how much the phone is kept awake in standby
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Yes one's impression depends a lot on what you're coming from also. You should check how much the phone is kept awake in standby
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It is kept awake more than you would think, but I blame the on apps, and that's unfortunately the chance you take if you want those apps. I will post a few screen shots later this evening if I can remember.
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This topic is already adequately covered HERE.
Please avoid creating duplicate threads.
Closed.

Very happy with SOT/battery life!

I couldn't be happier with the performance of this device.
Thank you moto!
Really? I mean performance is good but a lot of us here have crap SOT. Mine barely makes 2 hours of SOT, which is pretty low.
Which rom and what's the theme?
randalgibbons said:
I couldn't be happier with the performance of this device.
Thank you moto!
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How are you managing 5-6 hours screen on time on mobile data and what are you doing? Nobody gets that without some serious tweaking and the screen brightness basically off... 5 hours of continuous use on WiFi maybe, maybe, but not on mobile data.
randalgibbons said:
I couldn't be happier with the performance of this device.
Thank you moto!
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You may be the only owner of this device to ever actually type this out. I mean, battery life is fine, but if it was actually GREAT, it could have been one of the better Android devices ever made. Without it, I like the phone. And nothing more.
acejavelin said:
How are you managing 5-6 hours screen on time on mobile data and what are you doing? Nobody gets that without some serious tweaking and the screen brightness basically off... 5 hours of continuous use on WiFi maybe, maybe, but not on mobile data.
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Its all true. I put this phone through a lot too. I've themed
every app and every icon. It seems like I'm constantly
changing something. I reboot between 5 and 10 times a
day also. I used to tweak it but I've found simple is better.
I haven't made any changes to the build.prop and the gov
settings are basic (attached). Here are some pics to show
some of my work.
tycho.98 said:
Which rom and what's the theme?
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See above.
I've NEVER had a SOT of over 3 hours lol
aakashverma0007 said:
I've NEVER had a SOT of over 3 hours lol
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Hmm... I average 3h 26m but my max isn't quite 4h, and that's average over 3 months.
acejavelin said:
Hmm... I average 3h 26m but my max isn't quite 4h, and that's average over 3 months.
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I never noticed that "average" feature on GSM, but upon looking at mine, I am averaging 2:31. Yikes! I use xposed, Ambient display, and some other screen things like f.lux though. Not sure how to quantify the difference.
But to the OPs point about rebooting 10 times a day..I sometimes lose 7-8% of battery when I reboot so this is even harder to believe.
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randalgibbons said:
Its all true. I put this phone through a lot too. I've themed
every app and every icon. It seems like I'm constantly
changing something. I reboot between 5 and 10 times a
day also. I used to tweak it but I've found simple is better.
I haven't made any changes to the build.prop and the gov
settings are basic (attached). Here are some pics to show
some of my work.
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I'm going to try the CPU settings you have and see if it makes any difference for me.
Haven't had the device that long but I'm around 7 hrs SOT. No problems hitting 6 hrs.
Non-rooted, basic setup, sync on, data on all the time though I'm in a terrible area for T-Mobile so I've set it to 3g lately..... Most battery lost browsing the web. No WiFi.
Since I don't get a lot of notifications, or spend a lot of time on the phone or have social apps = good battery life.
I've got over 9 hrs SOT with my LG optimus g pro rooted and locked down. Easy 7.5 on that phone no matter what.
Got 9 hrs using my neighbour's Moto G4 Plus.
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Haven't had the device that long but I'm around 7 hrs SOT. No problems hitting 6 hrs.
Non-rooted, basic setup, sync on, data on all the time though I'm in a terrible area for T-Mobile so I've set it to 3g lately..... Most battery lost browsing the web. No WiFi.
Since I don't get a lot of notifications, or spend a lot of time on the phone or have social apps = good battery life.
I've got over 9 hrs SOT with my LG optimus g pro rooted and locked down. Easy 7.5 on that phone no matter what.
Got 9 hrs using my neighbour's Moto G4 Plus.
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There is just no possible way this is true. SOT (screen on time) is not the same as the time it takes the phone to die after you pull it off the charger. Even the Nexus 6p has an average of like 6 hours SOT and it's got an extra 450mAh. Right now I'm running this phone totally stock unrooted without many apps and my SOT varies from 2-3 hours. Back when I was rooted and spent a lot of time doing battery related tweaks (which also happen to kill a lot of funtionality) I could get just over 4 hours. My sister in law has a G4 (non plus) and averages 3-3.5 hours SOT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/review/screen-time-t3239509
Always over 5 hours sot but it's not enough, I had a LG g2 and could get 7+ sot but that was only a 1080p screen, if Moto had chosen a 1080p amoled screen this phone would of been unbeatable.
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There is just no possible way this is true. . .
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/review/screen-time-t3239509
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And yet....At 48% left
I can honestly say 5+ hours SOT is possible. However, I achieved that with airplane mode on for a few hours and was reading a Kindle book with about 35% brightness, white text on black background. This requires little processing power and minimal touch interaction. On a regular day 3-4 hours is norm and this is checking emails, reading forums and news, reading some on Kindle, and about half of a day on 3g (not LTE). I don't get many emails, texts, or calls, so notifications are at a minimal (I have Moto display on). I also use Google now to track weather, traffic, packages, etc and have both Google and Moto voice off (just can't justify it when the mic button is just a tap). I just cannot see the SOT time you are claiming, especially if you are not rooted and heavily tweaked. I'm happy with my set up though and would not cripple my phone in the name of battery life.
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There is just no possible way this is true. SOT (screen on time) is not the same as the time it takes the phone to die after you pull it off the charger. Even the Nexus 6p has an average of like 6 hours SOT and it's got an extra 450mAh. Right now I'm running this phone totally stock unrooted without many apps and my SOT varies from 2-3 hours. Back when I was rooted and spent a lot of time doing battery related tweaks (which also happen to kill a lot of funtionality) I could get just over 4 hours. My sister in law has a G4 (non plus) and averages 3-3.5 hours SOT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/review/screen-time-t3239509
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I'm wondering if we should be considering the quality of the batteries being put into our devices. Look what got past the QC inspectors at Samsung's manufacturer. Makes me wonder how well they control their processes and how low a level of quality are they willing to ship out their door. Hmm...
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And yet....At 48% left
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How? I can only get 2:30 of screen, if I use it a lot, 3h...
Screen brightness is the key... The display panel is what takes most of the battery, if you turn off auto brightness and turn the brightness down to near zero you will get much higher more battery life.
The real problem with this device isn't the battery, it's the display panel (in regards to battery life).
Sean89us said:
There is just no possible way this is true. SOT (screen on time) is not the same as the time it takes the phone to die after you pull it off the charger. Even the Nexus 6p has an average of like 6 hours SOT and it's got an extra 450mAh. Right now I'm running this phone totally stock unrooted without many apps and my SOT varies from 2-3 hours. Back when I was rooted and spent a lot of time doing battery related tweaks (which also happen to kill a lot of funtionality) I could get just over 4 hours. My sister in law has a G4 (non plus) and averages 3-3.5 hours SOT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/review/screen-time-t3239509
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My N6P is currently in the "shop", I got the dreaded boot loop of death. While I wait for it to come back, I've been enjoying the MXPE, excellent phone. I just wanted to add my comment to the N6P getting 6 hours of SOT. I bought it new in Dec. 15 from Google and the very very best SOT is around 3.5 hours. I'm a medium user I would say; email, messaging, web, some social media. I've tried most of the N6P roms and kernels and maybe with Franko's kernel I eked out a bit more, but never got more then 4 hours and that was rare. I generally have my display turned way down, turn off notifications except for messaging, phone, greenify. Nougat was better then MM, but not much.
So far the battery on the MXPE is pretty on par with the 6P for me.
The OP of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3249458
does pretty much exactly what I've always done, and the battery life is within 30 minutes of mine, I'm currently not rooted and can't disable as many continuously running background apps.
I've always cringed when I would read reviews and people on here about SOT whenever I was considering buying a device. But each person's way of using the device is unique -- one bad app can kill SOT, even using chrome as your main browser will put a big dent in it.
I would say, other than data being on always instead of on WiFi, I use my device like I've always used a pc or tablet.....
If I was only getting 3 hrs SOT I would only look at devices I could get an extended battery case for OR I would be tied to an outlet.
Nonetheless, 6+ hrs SOT is possible for this device -- regardless of what anyone wants to *believe* is possible

Screen on time

It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Moto G5 Plus before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Phone can reach 9h SOT easily when on wifi. Battery backup combined with overall performance are the best features in this phone.
Too much improvement coming from 2 yr old htc one m9+ and battery is atleast 2 to 3 times better than that of htc its crazy. I didnt expect this from 3000mah
I have not been able to use my G5 Plus enough to kill the battery. I've gotten to about 5 hours a couple of times with at least 40% remaining. My Pixel would be down to 40% before 2.5 hours.
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It's depend on how we use, when we play the game the sot decrease and when we use simple video play like each movie offline the sot is high.
Moto have a gud battery backup, especially the processor done excellent work.
Viper ROM with Dolby / viper rooted stock kernel
At 53%
Best screen on time of any phone I've ever owned. Even better than my original Moto G. Which I didn't think was possible. Getting consistent 4 hours of screen on time at 50%. I
Amazed myself. Couldn't believe it. There are so many things that this phone does better than my lg g5, my dad s7, or the iPhone 6 it's crazy. My lg g5 would be dead by the end of the day when I pulled a 14hr day at work (in our hub 5-7 hr screen off YouTube red, than 5-7 hrs of screen on, maps,GPS , googling while driving around). Got home at 7 pm Friday with 40% (I did a top up charge mid day from maybe 65ish to 90ish.....) But still.....
I am once again impressed. Excellent phone. Wish I would have researched phones ...which I will do from now on. Could have bought another Moto with the money I spent on my lg g5 (extra battery, power button, etc)
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Usually would get 6-7 hours SOT over 24-30 hours. Heavy user, but where I live has really bad reception for my carrier, so I get a lot of idle drain from the mobile standby.
I use my phone a lot. Web surfing, forums, games, texting, not too many calls. Best battery life I've ever had and this my sixth Android. Still bootloader locked and running stock, I may not even bother to root this one.
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I'm currently at 4 1/2 hours screen on time with 46% battery remaining. I can easily get to 8 hours. I'm running the amazing AOSPA Rom right now as well. I stream a lot of music so I could probably get even more screen on time without all the music streaming.
i just got this phone wednesday 8pm and got a full charge in 1 hour, is sunday 8pm, 4 full days standby time plus 5 calls under 3 min each and 5 hour SOT total and i still get 32% battery left, this battery-snapdragon 625 combo is AMAZING, i come from 2016 top phone samsung S7 edge and i love this phone already. just got the best silicon lottery or what?
Tried to see how long it would last lowest I got the battery to is 31% and that had 6.5 hours screen on time. rooted with greenify. Was quite the surprise coming from a m8 getting maybe 2.5, if I was lucky 3 hours
In 2 weeks, I have twice now gotten 7+ hours SoT over a 16 hour period in mixed WiFi/LTE usage, and still had over 10% battery when it was plugged in at the end of the day. My last phone, a Moto X Pure Edition would be on the charger twice to make it though that.
No root, all services running, precise location and location tracking enabled, Google Assistant enabled, WiFI and BT on all the time, auto screen brightness, etc... I do nothing to conserve battery and on my average day I am still at 50% or more when it goes on the charger.
3 months in now and battery still great. Yesterday for example left with it at 65% around 1 pm and got back at 11 pm with still about 30% and used it quite bit. Compared to all phones I've had or seen in my family/friends circle this phone's battery life is amazing.
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adu1982 said:
3 months in now and battery still great. Yesterday for example left with it at 65% around 1 pm and got back at 11 pm with still about 30% and used it quite bit. Compared to all phones I've had or seen in my family/friends circle this phone's battery life is amazing.
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Hello, in 3 months you only used TurboPower?
Battery in Moto G5 Plus is very good. I usually get 7-8h SoT, but sometimes it increase up to 10 hours.
Completely stock UK G5 Plus here, i get 8 hours no problem.
LeoMiami said:
i just got this phone wednesday 8pm and got a full charge in 1 hour, is sunday 8pm, 4 full days standby time plus 5 calls under 3 min each and 5 hour SOT total and i still get 32% battery left, this battery-snapdragon 625 combo is AMAZING, i come from 2016 top phone samsung S7 edge and i love this phone already. just got the best silicon lottery or what?
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Absolutely unhealthy to keep your battery draining that long. The longer the period is discharge, more harm to the battery. You should charge it every night, never met it get too low.
If you discharge your phone from 100 to 0% about 300 times, it will lose 20% capacity.
If you however discharge it from 100 to 50% 600 times, it will lose less than 7% of it's capacity.
So charge your phone every night.
Here's scientific proof for those who think I'm speaking nonsense.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
SOT in 50% battery using VoLTE and 1.5hr nonstop voice call.

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