Z5 camera sensor?
Anyone knows what kind of image sensor are being used on Xperia Z5? Since I have searched on the web but nothing was found? IMX what?
We don't know.
They've not announced the full details.
All we know it is a custom, 1/2.3 Exmor RS 25MP sensor.
Jameslwoodward said:
Anyone knows what kind of image sensor are being used on Xperia Z5? Since I have searched on the web but nothing was found? IMX what?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sonys_new_z5_series_phones_actually_use_a_custom_25mp_camera_sensor-blog-13806.php
Supposedly IMX300
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sonys_new_z...se_a_custom_25mp_camera_sensor-blog-13806.php
Supposedly IMX300
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So the articles saying shooting in 20MP 16:9 is higher resolution than 23MP in 4:3 aspect ratio?
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dawen said:
So the articles saying shooting in 20MP 16:9 is higher resolution than 23MP in 4:3 aspect ratio?
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I think they mean only horizontally as you can see in the picture. 16:9 is 5984px vs 4:3 is 5520px.
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I have searched Google as well as XDA and cannot find detailed specs on the camera in the Skyrocket. I am looking for details such as sensor size and type, focal length, aspect ratio, pixel ratio, etc.
Samsung's site doesn't seem to go into much detail.
Does anyone know where I can find this information? Or perhaps who manufactured the camera component so I can look there?
Thanks,
Chris
The Skyrocket's rear facing camera has an 8 megapixel sensor with a 1920 x 1080 pixel ratio. It has an F2.6 aperture, and I believe the focal length has been determined to be basically equivalent to 40 mm.
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The Skyrocket's rear facing camera has an 8 megapixel sensor with a 1920 x 1080 pixel ratio. It has an F2.6 aperture, and I believe the focal length has been determined to be basically equivalent to 40 mm.
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Thanks for the reply. That's not exactly the information I was looking for but I was able to figure out the information that I needed:
The sensor is 1/3.2 which is approximately 5.68mm diagonally or 4.536mm x 3.415mm
I found that information here ( I presume that the Skyrocket uses the same camera as the S2):
http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=78174
and here:
http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/key=sensor+sizes
For anyone else that is interested. If anyone know where I can get the 'official' specs for the camera, I'm still interested. I hope what I have found is accurate, but it would be nice to get a definitive answer.
Thanks again.
I think you are the only one who cares
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Illnevertell said:
I think you are the only one who cares
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The reason I was interested is that I was experimenting with using the camera in the skyrocket in Blender 3D for camera tracking. While a smart phone's camera is probably not suited for this purpose, I was experimenting and the camera solvers in Blender uses the size of the sensor as well as the focal length in its calculations.
Thanks for your response.
All the time i am taking pics with rare camera having 10mp resolution only.
And the pictures taken with front camera having 3.8mp resolution only.
Why? Is there any settings that i don't know, as i am taking pics in high quality mode.
zerocool420 said:
All the time i am taking pics with rare camera having 10mp resolution only.
And the pictures taken with front camera having 3.8mp resolution only.
Why? Is there any settings that i don't know, as i am taking pics in high quality mode.
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Just change the camera frame from 16:9 to 4:3 standard
Its because of the camera frame 16:9 is wide that is why the 3.8mp but 5mp is squarish so 4:3
Ok now i got it.
sharan.nyn said:
Just change the camera frame from 16:9 to 4:3 standard
Its because of the camera frame 16:9 is wide that is why the 3.8mp but 5mp is squarish so 4:3
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thanks sir, it's amazing i can try on cm12.1
GadRoen said:
thanks sir, it's amazing i can try on cm12.1
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Yes it is working on cm12.1 too
When shooting a photo in 16:9 the MP get reduced to "only" 9MP.
When i get the picture info from a G4 the info says 16mp.
So then MP's aren't reduced when shooting in 16:9 or 4:3.
Why is it that HTC does? Or is LG lying in the pic info.
The HTC u11's camera sensor is a native 4:3 sensor so if you take a 16:9 pic it will crop that 4:3 pic down to 16:9 which of course would reduce the number of total pixels because you are cropping the top and bottom of the pic. Same goes for other camera sensors that have a native 16:9 sensor. If you wanted a 4:3 pic it will crop the left and right sides, reducing the total number of pixels.
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And what's wrong with a 9MP anyway ?
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And what's wrong with a 9MP anyway ?
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Did i say it's wrong? Can only imagine if you want a wall frame picture it can be difficult.
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The HTC u11's camera sensor is a native 4:3 sensor so if you take a 16:9 pic it will crop that 4:3 pic down to 16:9 which of course would reduce the number of total pixels because you are cropping the top and bottom of the pic. Same goes for other camera sensors that have a native 16:9 sensor. If you wanted a 4:3 pic it will crop the left and right sides, reducing the total number of pixels.
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Thanks for the info.. So LG uses a 16:9 lens I guess.
I always take pics in 16:9.... So that's why I wanna know.
@*justintime* I found this article explaining very well : http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_g6_vs_lg_g5_quadcam_comparo-news-23636.php
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Did i say it's wrong? Can only imagine if you want a wall frame picture it can be difficult.
Thanks for the info.. So LG uses a 16:9 lens I guess.
I always take pics in 16:9.... So that's why I wanna know.
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Correct, the LG G4's sensor has a native 16:9 aspect ratio and the U11's sensor is a native 4:3 aspect ratio.
Regarding 9MP, have you ever watched any 4k content on a large screen 4k tv, like a 60 or maybe even larger?
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Correct, the LG G4's sensor has a native 16:9 aspect ratio and the U11's sensor is a native 4:3 aspect ratio.
Regarding 9MP, have you ever watched any 4k content on a large screen 4k tv, like a 60 or maybe even larger?
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Do you know how many MP's a photo has to be ti display stunningly on a large screen 4k TV, that is to look as great as a 4k content video?
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Correct, the LG G4's sensor has a native 16:9 aspect ratio and the U11's sensor is a native 4:3 aspect ratio.
Regarding 9MP, have you ever watched any 4k content on a large screen 4k tv, like a 60 or maybe even larger?
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Do you know how many MP's a photo has to be ti display stunningly on a large screen 4k TV, that is to look as great as a 4k content video?
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I really don't know... You tell me? I am not a photographer.
I watch photos on TV 65" not 4K...and with the G4 it looks good to me.
Didn't test the U11 though...
guys,dial *#*#1597#*#* and switch to the second camera...click the photo,check the resolution.. isn't it 2592x1940 (5mp) ... it's strange because the secondary camera is of 20mp and I am getting 5mp.
Mine is 3456x4608
Edit: sorry, I did not switch to the second camera, how do I do that?
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Mine is 3456x4608
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switch to lens BACK(2). double tap to switch the camera.
Ok, did that and indeed it's 2592x1940
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Ok, did that and indeed it's 2592x1940
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okay... isn't the secondary camera of 20mp..why does it click photos in 5mp???oneplus ?
Yep the same. Pretty weird. But the image doesn't look like 5 MP though
Wow this is some major scoop! You're indeed right, also to support your findings, the OP6 brother, the OPPO R15, has the same primary 16MP IMX519 sensor and a 5MP secondary sensors only for depth informations.
This could be a camera-gate beginning for OP! It needs deeper investigation
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Wow this is some major scoop! You're indeed right, also to support your findings, the OP6 brother, the OPPO R15, has the same primary 16MP IMX519 sensor and a 5MP secondary sensors only for depth informations.
This could be a camera-gate beginning for OP! It needs deeper investigation
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that can't be a co-incidence. i am gonna post about this in oneplus forum. let everyone know about this.
For me the primary camera is at 15.9MP and the portrait camera is at 14.2MP.
Correction: The photos made with primary camera are at 15.9 and the portrait mode ones are at 14.2MP.
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For me the primary camera is at 15.9MP and the portrait camera is at 14.2MP.
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you mean portrait photos??the resolution is 15.9 mp for portrait photos too.
The portrait photo is also made with the primary camera, helped by the secondary camera.
If I cover the secondary camera I see a message on screen and bokeh effect is gone.
@aneesh12 Yes, I meant the photos.
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The portrait photo is also made with the primary camera, helped by the secondary camera.
If I cover the secondary camera I see a message on screen and bokeh effect is gone.
@aneesh12 Yes, I meant the photos.
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yeah... that's how all the process works. but you said the portrait photos are 14.2mp for you which is not the same for me...i am getting 15.9mp photos. i am sorry if i got you wrong again
Another thing, the pictures taken with the secondary camera capture so much more light when shooting in really (really) dark places. Try it and let me know.
I think maybe it's the same secondary sensor used in the OP5T, the Sony IMX 376k, which is a 20MP sensor that via software does a pixel interpolation to "create" bigger pixels and capture more light.
However it's a cheap move to use this sensor only for depth informations
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Another thing, the pictures taken with the secondary camera capture so much more light when shooting in really (really) dark places. Try it and let me know.
I think maybe it's the same secondary sensor used in the OP5T, the Sony IMX 376k, which is a 20MP sensor that via software does a pixel interpolation to "create" bigger pixels and capture more light.
However it's a cheap move to use this sensor only for depth informations
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I'll try the second camera on op5t nd will see the resolution.
guys, what's the use of second camera anyways??? I've covered the second lens,still the photos came out as same as when the lens wasn't covered.
@aneesh12
For the depth of field effect/bokeh, portrait photos.
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@aneesh12
For the depth of field effect/bokeh, portrait photos.
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they could have gone for 5mp depth sensing camera then. why to waste 20mp for that. oneplus 5's camera was very well implemented. that optical zoom was actually useful and handy.
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guys, what's the use of second camera anyways??? I've covered the second lens,still the photos came out as same as when the lens wasn't covered.
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You have to double tap to change camera then you will see camera(2) instead of camera(0)
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You have to double tap to change camera then you will see camera(2) instead of camera(0)
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that is exactly what i said in the 3rd post. you didn't get what i said.
Could it be due to a software config, like using pixel binning to increase sensitivity in the dark?
Ì sent my Samsung A70 back because 16:9 was limited to 8 MP, I knew little about aspect ratios their respective resolutions, now that I have read a lot about it I am somewhat wiser. I was used to taking 16:9 photos on my S8+ and cropping the picture to my liking while maintaining the 16:9 AR. This requires a somewhat larger original picture if you wish to view the result on a large screen.
I bought the 7 pro and immediately ran into the same problem, aspect ratios are stuck to a certain resolution and 48 MP is limited to 4:3 JPG format, I can´t even choose 16:9 and decided to go along with the 20:9 fullscreen option ... can still easily be cropped to 16:9. But why are aspect ratios locked into a certain resolution which is usually okay in it´s original size for viewing but doesn´t allow for a lot of creativity.
I have been using a Gcam mod which has 16:9 available and the pictures do allow for a small crop, not much though before the pixels suffer on the big screen.
I will never use 4:3 as I hate the field of view it offers.
4:3 is likely the native sensor size/ratio. It comes from mimicking film cameras. Film cameras in turn copied oil painting canvases. 16:9 is just a compromise television format to approach Cinema formats roughly 21:9.
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4:3 is likely the native sensor size/ratio. It comes from mimicking film cameras. Film cameras in turn copied oil painting canvases. 16:9 is just a compromise television format to approach Cinema formats roughly 21:9.
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Yes, I figured that. Why are the size of the pictures restricted in all aspect ratios? that´s my question. As the average consumer you get 48MP advertised when you buy the phone, large pictures are however impossible to shoot in any other aspect ratio than 4:3 and for that you need to tweak the settings. For most people the camera will be 12 MP at most.
Why can´t I f.ex. shoot a 16:9 picture at 24 MP? I realize the fact that it´s impossible to get a 48 MP picture at 16:9 due to how the camera angle works.
The main sensor has 48 million pixels laid out in a 4:3 aspect ratio. Furthermore they are grouped in a quad Bayer layout which really just makes it a 4x light sensitive 12mp camera instead of a 48mp detail sensor. That is the hardware.
If you want images cropped to another aspect ratio afterwards, download something like Open Camera or MX Camera and set a custom resolution.
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The main sensor has 48 million pixels laid out in a 4:3 aspect ratio. Furthermore they are grouped in a quad Bayer layout which really just makes it a 4x light sensitive 12mp camera instead of a 48mp detail sensor. That is the hardware.
If you want images cropped to another aspect ratio afterwards, download something like Open Camera or MX Camera and set a custom resolution.
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All third party apps are limited to the 12 MP, they don´t know how to use the 4x .... so they are pretty limited in their range of resolutions.
Yes and regrettably can't use the other lenses either.
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larsdennert said:
4:3 is likely the native sensor size/ratio. It comes from mimicking film cameras. Film cameras in turn copied oil painting canvases. 16:9 is just a compromise television format to approach Cinema formats roughly 21:9.
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Cinema is 2.35:1 which is why on 16:9 shows you the black bars on the top and bottom of your screen for the majority of movies.
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Yes, I figured that. Why are the size of the pictures restricted in all aspect ratios? that´s my question. As the average consumer you get 48MP advertised when you buy the phone, large pictures are however impossible to shoot in any other aspect ratio than 4:3 and for that you need to tweak the settings. For most people the camera will be 12 MP at most.
Why can´t I f.ex. shoot a 16:9 picture at 24 MP? I realize the fact that it´s impossible to get a 48 MP picture at 16:9 due to how the camera angle works.
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Unless your going to print MASSIVE size prints, overall, MP is a marketing ploy to get your to spend more money on am item. After 12 to 16mp, for 95% of people, the difference is in the pixel size in Montana, not the number is pixels.
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The main sensor has 48 million pixels laid out in a 4:3 aspect ratio. Furthermore they are grouped in a quad Bayer layout which really just makes it a 4x light sensitive 12mp camera instead of a 48mp detail sensor. That is the hardware.
If you want images cropped to another aspect ratio afterwards, download something like Open Camera or MX Camera and set a custom resolution.
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So in general, when stock camera takes 12mp photo on 48mp sensor, it would be using pixel binning, resulting in better looking image, right?
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Yes and regrettably can't use the other lenses either.
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If yes, then if 3rd party Apps can capture photos at 12mp only, is it using pixel binning on main 48mp sensor or some other tech? If other tech, what is that other tech?
Thanks!
Even non Bayer sensors use four sensors filtered for each color. Generally an RGGB configuration. One sensor with a red filter, two with green and one with blue. They aren't individually addressible. They are summed together in hardware to mix all the colors. A Bayer configuration of groups allows sub addressing of different luminance channels.
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Even non Bayer sensors use four sensors filtered for each color. Generally an RGGB configuration. One sensor with a red filter, two with green and one with blue. They aren't individually addressible. They are summed together in hardware to mix all the colors. A Bayer configuration of groups allows sub addressing of different luminance channels.
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Thanks for more details. Also, if you could, please answer (maybe you already answered but I did not get it) the doubts I asked above.
Thanks
It might be a custom API that only the manufacturer accesses with their binary or camera app. Google camera2 API may not support it but people do cool stuff with the Google camera app to get at stuff.