how can i see the current size of the pagepool?
i'm experimenting with the new tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323538) to change the pagepool without reflashing but how kan i check that the tool works (besides performances changes)?
Your total Program memory will be less or more depending on the page pool. For 4 mb pp total memory will be about 52mb, for 6mb about 50mb, for 8mb about 48mb and for 12 mb pp the total memory will be about 44mb
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Your total Program memory will be less or more depending on the page pool. For 4 mb pp total memory will be about 52mb, for 6mb about 50mb, for 8mb about 48mb and for 12 mb pp the total memory will be about 44mb
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but where can i see this in the process? i've a running rom with installed apps .
can i see it in the app memory. curently is gives the folling readings;
storage free 27.03 mb program free 24.36
the pagepool is curently 12 mb.
if u go into settings, system, and select memory you will see your total memory, in use memory and free memory, for 12 mb page pool your total program memory should be around 44 mb
Thanks for the info about this very useful tool. Works perfectly. I tried it on my MDA Vario with TNT 4.0 (original PP 6 MB, I tried 4 and 12 succesfully).
I guess I will stay with 4 MB (free memory is important for me).
Mirek
Hi everyone,
Because I've seen the "not enough memory" notice a few times now, I decided to make a simple calculation on the device's memory. And the results are strange:
Program memory (RAM)
-- Total 43.62 MB / In Use: 28.07 MB / Free: 15.55 MB
----- but the device has 64 MB RAM, so where are the remaining 20 MB?
According to the Task Manager, all running programs, including the device natives such as GWES.exe (5,7 MB), DEVICE.EXE (4,1 MB), Shell32.exe (2,4 MB) -- consume a total of 14 MB, so this is very strange...
Storage Memory
-- Total: 81.81 MB / In use: 32.55 MB / Free: 49.27 MB
----- the the device has 128 MB of ROM, so where are the remaining 46 MB?
So I am stuck with some 14 MB of RAM left which is apparently not enough - the IRIS Browser (1.1.5) for instance shuts down after two clicks.
If anyone can explain this or even better - suggest some remedy - they'll be most appreciated! Thanks!
just for your info, we don't deal with non-HTC devices..
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Hi! I try xdandroid rom from his official site.
Apart little things maybe fixed on other rom that i've found here, there's a method to increase the available RAM? Because I've a Raph100 and it use only 50/60 Mb (I saw that in the "running applications" menu).
Thanks!
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Hi! I try xdandroid rom from his official site.
Apart little things maybe fixed on other rom that i've found here, there's a method to increase the available RAM? Because I've a Raph100 and it use only 50/60 Mb (I saw that in the "running applications" menu).
Thanks!
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Well obviously to physically get more RAM you'd have to get the soldering iron out and be pretty brave.
To manage memory better, read my Speed Improvements thread. There's a topic that covers memory management - you can get as detailed as you want with it, or just use the SuperCharger script. Either way, depends on how much you want to learn it .
I don't understand very well, but i don't think this will change the physical ram used. I mean, if it runs under/with win mobile, maybe we can change one parameter to release more memory. Like the page pool setting: maybe applying this directly to haret.exe
But the problem is, winmo is shutdown completely; if I'm not mistaken. You know, the whole reason why you have to reboot your phone in order to get winmo back. Usually apps that run under winmo, you just shut down and either run cleanRAM to regain the memory or you could reboot at that time but you do it while winmo is still running in either case.
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I don't understand very well, but i don't think this will change the physical ram used. I mean, if it runs under/with win mobile, maybe we can change one parameter to release more memory. Like the page pool setting: maybe applying this directly to haret.exe
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You don't understand, WinMo is completely kicked out of memory - no trace of it is left. Many have done extensive tests, WinMo ROM speed has no effect on Android speed - why would it? It's not running "under" WinMo. HaRET is not a 'virtual machine' or an emulator. We're actually running Linux on the hardware - about all WinMo does for us is initialize said hardware.
Understand. And ok... but the question remains: my raph has 288Mb of RAM. Why Android use only 60? (in application menu: (plus or minus) "xx Mb used of 60 total")
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Understand. And ok... but the question remains: my raph has 288Mb of RAM. Why Android use only 60? (in application menu: (plus or minus) "xx Mb used of 60 total")
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Well 288mb is the total amount. In WinMo, you don't have that much total because of various things like video etc. Lots are beyond me.
Perhaps RAPH doesn't have all the banks available? I doubt it. Have you checked with free? In the terminal.
My RHOD says 171mb total, when I also have 288mb physically. I would think it would show more than 60 tho... Perhaps you've done something wrong? Using the wrong startup perhaps...?
You say you have a RAPH100, that isn't one of the crippled models.
So it's not only my diam100 who can not use all the RAM! I'm relieved!
I knew that even with 192MB, 64MB were blocked for VRAM (I think)
Winmo 6.5 shows a total of 111.66Mb
In settings, xdandroid 2.3.7 (compiled by me) shows only 30Mb, with free 0Mb
using the command FREE in the ADB, however, shows a total of 103Mb, with 1 or 2 MB free
In these days I'm doing some tests with compcache off, 24Mb (1 / 4 of RAM) or more
using Compcache the maximum memory is increased, but free is always 1 or 2Mb!
In the next days I will try with FRX07.1, we will see
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So it's not only my diam100 who can not use all the RAM! I'm relieved!
I knew that even with 192MB, 64MB were blocked for VRAM (I think)
Winmo 6.5 shows a total of 111.66Mb
In settings, xdandroid 2.3.7 (compiled by me) shows only 30Mb, with free 0Mb
using the command FREE in the ADB, however, shows a total of 103Mb, with 1 or 2 MB free
In these days I'm doing some tests with compcache off, 24Mb (1 / 4 of RAM) or more
using Compcache the maximum memory is increased, but free is always 1 or 2Mb!
In the next days I will try with FRX07.1, we will see
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Based on free, that sound accurate. Settings -> About Phone might be using some different metrics (I honestly don't know).
And what about the 1 or 2 Mb free? they're too less to be ALWAYS 2 Mb, or not?
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And what about the 1 or 2 Mb free? they're too less to be ALWAYS 2 Mb, or not?
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What is this, I don't even...
I mean that it isn't normal which there are always 2Mb free, in according to Fabiett83 (he says this)
I'm sorry, before i meant 1-2 mb of uncompressed ram, there was still free memory in compcache
I think android needs more than 100Mb of ram, so it keep closing open apps and processes when i/it need ram for anything else
this could explain the ever full ram and the long time needed for opening apps
even answering to calls needs more than a minute if the phone app is not open!
Edit:
This is the result of ADB Free command in a fresh FRX7.1 install
_____ ---- total --- used --- free - shared - buffers
Mem: -- 103160 - 101116 -- 2044 ------ 0 ----- 72
Swap: - 102392 -- 64004 - 38388
Total: - 205552 - 165120 - 40432
Android uses a total of 165Mb of ram
Now with compcache set to 80Mb in froyo.user.conf
_____ ---- total --- used --- free - shared - buffers
Mem: -- 103160 - 101332 -- 1828 ------ 0 ---- 256
Swap: -- 81912 -- 54032 - 27880
Total: - 185072 - 155364 - 29708
Here uses 155Mb, but leaves less compcache free
Last with compcache set to 64Mb
_____ ---- total --- used --- free - shared - buffers
Mem: -- 103160 - 101812 -- 1348 ------ 0 ---- 352
Swap: -- 65528 -- 34356 - 31172
Total: - 168688 - 136168 - 32520
I Don't know... seem to always use the max possible uncompressed ram and thel load the rest in compcache
what i can clearly see is that the less compcache i use the more responsive the system is!
I will stick to 64mb for a while, i hope 168Mb is enough for normal use
Hi I have BSNL Penta IS701C tablet PC. IT has 1 GHz processor and 512 MB internal Ram,4GB Internal Storage.
But Actually It shows near about 350 MB RAM outof which ony 100 MB free and about 250 MB is used I have no any apps installed. And Also It shows 530 MB internal storage And 4 GB internal storage. When i starts any application ram space decreases and for multitask it becomes less free below 60MB of 100 MB free. For google chrom IT gets hanged due to no free ram. Wht to Do ?
I don't know the reason why the internal memory shows up as full, when is not.
I use a 120 GB external memory card where i transfere all my files such as pictures, videos, text, etc. to free some storage.
Internal Storage: 31,6 GB / 32 GB - 98%
Total Storage: 32 GB
Free Storage: 457 MB
System Storage: 7,1 GB
Installed Apps: 18,7 GB
Files: 38,6 MB
Where is the rest of the free space? It taken by what?
This is really strange and i can't find an answer.
I use this smartphone for work, and when thers very little storage left, even mail can't get into the phone.
I will add system screens and storage numbers if needed.