Hi everyone! Updated to Darkforce's ROM, but have same question for another ROMs.
As I know Universal comes with 64 Mb RAM and 128 Mb ROM. Well, fine. After installing WM6 by DarkForce "Memory" in "Settings" reports:
Storage Program
Total 43.50 Mb 48.88 Mb
In Use 10.13 Mb 27.87 Mb
Total 33.37 Mb 21.01 Mb
I allow that Windows hiding real size of RAM, but is it using 45 Mb real?
And what about storage? I guess that some ROM memory eats up ROM (that I updated), that's nearly 70-80 Mb. And something WM.
My guesses are right? If that so, how working devices with less memory (like 64/64)?
And what does mean Extended_ROM in "Storage card" option. What is it for and how to deal with this? Why on WM5 weren't that?
Sorry for n00b question.
how can i see the current size of the pagepool?
i'm experimenting with the new tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323538) to change the pagepool without reflashing but how kan i check that the tool works (besides performances changes)?
Your total Program memory will be less or more depending on the page pool. For 4 mb pp total memory will be about 52mb, for 6mb about 50mb, for 8mb about 48mb and for 12 mb pp the total memory will be about 44mb
shanezane said:
Your total Program memory will be less or more depending on the page pool. For 4 mb pp total memory will be about 52mb, for 6mb about 50mb, for 8mb about 48mb and for 12 mb pp the total memory will be about 44mb
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but where can i see this in the process? i've a running rom with installed apps .
can i see it in the app memory. curently is gives the folling readings;
storage free 27.03 mb program free 24.36
the pagepool is curently 12 mb.
if u go into settings, system, and select memory you will see your total memory, in use memory and free memory, for 12 mb page pool your total program memory should be around 44 mb
Thanks for the info about this very useful tool. Works perfectly. I tried it on my MDA Vario with TNT 4.0 (original PP 6 MB, I tried 4 and 12 succesfully).
I guess I will stay with 4 MB (free memory is important for me).
Mirek
Hi! I try xdandroid rom from his official site.
Apart little things maybe fixed on other rom that i've found here, there's a method to increase the available RAM? Because I've a Raph100 and it use only 50/60 Mb (I saw that in the "running applications" menu).
Thanks!
TheXeno said:
Hi! I try xdandroid rom from his official site.
Apart little things maybe fixed on other rom that i've found here, there's a method to increase the available RAM? Because I've a Raph100 and it use only 50/60 Mb (I saw that in the "running applications" menu).
Thanks!
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Well obviously to physically get more RAM you'd have to get the soldering iron out and be pretty brave.
To manage memory better, read my Speed Improvements thread. There's a topic that covers memory management - you can get as detailed as you want with it, or just use the SuperCharger script. Either way, depends on how much you want to learn it .
I don't understand very well, but i don't think this will change the physical ram used. I mean, if it runs under/with win mobile, maybe we can change one parameter to release more memory. Like the page pool setting: maybe applying this directly to haret.exe
But the problem is, winmo is shutdown completely; if I'm not mistaken. You know, the whole reason why you have to reboot your phone in order to get winmo back. Usually apps that run under winmo, you just shut down and either run cleanRAM to regain the memory or you could reboot at that time but you do it while winmo is still running in either case.
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I don't understand very well, but i don't think this will change the physical ram used. I mean, if it runs under/with win mobile, maybe we can change one parameter to release more memory. Like the page pool setting: maybe applying this directly to haret.exe
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You don't understand, WinMo is completely kicked out of memory - no trace of it is left. Many have done extensive tests, WinMo ROM speed has no effect on Android speed - why would it? It's not running "under" WinMo. HaRET is not a 'virtual machine' or an emulator. We're actually running Linux on the hardware - about all WinMo does for us is initialize said hardware.
Understand. And ok... but the question remains: my raph has 288Mb of RAM. Why Android use only 60? (in application menu: (plus or minus) "xx Mb used of 60 total")
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Understand. And ok... but the question remains: my raph has 288Mb of RAM. Why Android use only 60? (in application menu: (plus or minus) "xx Mb used of 60 total")
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Well 288mb is the total amount. In WinMo, you don't have that much total because of various things like video etc. Lots are beyond me.
Perhaps RAPH doesn't have all the banks available? I doubt it. Have you checked with free? In the terminal.
My RHOD says 171mb total, when I also have 288mb physically. I would think it would show more than 60 tho... Perhaps you've done something wrong? Using the wrong startup perhaps...?
You say you have a RAPH100, that isn't one of the crippled models.
So it's not only my diam100 who can not use all the RAM! I'm relieved!
I knew that even with 192MB, 64MB were blocked for VRAM (I think)
Winmo 6.5 shows a total of 111.66Mb
In settings, xdandroid 2.3.7 (compiled by me) shows only 30Mb, with free 0Mb
using the command FREE in the ADB, however, shows a total of 103Mb, with 1 or 2 MB free
In these days I'm doing some tests with compcache off, 24Mb (1 / 4 of RAM) or more
using Compcache the maximum memory is increased, but free is always 1 or 2Mb!
In the next days I will try with FRX07.1, we will see
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So it's not only my diam100 who can not use all the RAM! I'm relieved!
I knew that even with 192MB, 64MB were blocked for VRAM (I think)
Winmo 6.5 shows a total of 111.66Mb
In settings, xdandroid 2.3.7 (compiled by me) shows only 30Mb, with free 0Mb
using the command FREE in the ADB, however, shows a total of 103Mb, with 1 or 2 MB free
In these days I'm doing some tests with compcache off, 24Mb (1 / 4 of RAM) or more
using Compcache the maximum memory is increased, but free is always 1 or 2Mb!
In the next days I will try with FRX07.1, we will see
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Based on free, that sound accurate. Settings -> About Phone might be using some different metrics (I honestly don't know).
And what about the 1 or 2 Mb free? they're too less to be ALWAYS 2 Mb, or not?
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And what about the 1 or 2 Mb free? they're too less to be ALWAYS 2 Mb, or not?
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What is this, I don't even...
I mean that it isn't normal which there are always 2Mb free, in according to Fabiett83 (he says this)
I'm sorry, before i meant 1-2 mb of uncompressed ram, there was still free memory in compcache
I think android needs more than 100Mb of ram, so it keep closing open apps and processes when i/it need ram for anything else
this could explain the ever full ram and the long time needed for opening apps
even answering to calls needs more than a minute if the phone app is not open!
Edit:
This is the result of ADB Free command in a fresh FRX7.1 install
_____ ---- total --- used --- free - shared - buffers
Mem: -- 103160 - 101116 -- 2044 ------ 0 ----- 72
Swap: - 102392 -- 64004 - 38388
Total: - 205552 - 165120 - 40432
Android uses a total of 165Mb of ram
Now with compcache set to 80Mb in froyo.user.conf
_____ ---- total --- used --- free - shared - buffers
Mem: -- 103160 - 101332 -- 1828 ------ 0 ---- 256
Swap: -- 81912 -- 54032 - 27880
Total: - 185072 - 155364 - 29708
Here uses 155Mb, but leaves less compcache free
Last with compcache set to 64Mb
_____ ---- total --- used --- free - shared - buffers
Mem: -- 103160 - 101812 -- 1348 ------ 0 ---- 352
Swap: -- 65528 -- 34356 - 31172
Total: - 168688 - 136168 - 32520
I Don't know... seem to always use the max possible uncompressed ram and thel load the rest in compcache
what i can clearly see is that the less compcache i use the more responsive the system is!
I will stick to 64mb for a while, i hope 168Mb is enough for normal use
Hi I have BSNL Penta IS701C tablet PC. IT has 1 GHz processor and 512 MB internal Ram,4GB Internal Storage.
But Actually It shows near about 350 MB RAM outof which ony 100 MB free and about 250 MB is used I have no any apps installed. And Also It shows 530 MB internal storage And 4 GB internal storage. When i starts any application ram space decreases and for multitask it becomes less free below 60MB of 100 MB free. For google chrom IT gets hanged due to no free ram. Wht to Do ?
Hi, I have a problem. I have Alcatel Idol3 5,5 6045Y not rooted. And I found out that I have much less freespace than I should have. In setting when I look at internal storage I see that I have around 3,5 GB free space and yet all taken up space is about 5,2GB. So i should have more than 5GB free space. How is than possible.
Uncanny thing is, that it says that Miscellaneous is 283MB and the graph tells its much more. How can I find all that space EZ file manager shows nothing as well.
Has this ever happened to anyone?
Hi and sorry for the spelling but I'm French.
I noticed the same thing on my side.
in parameter> Storage
In order :
1 - available space 11.04 GB
2 - Available: 5.49 GB
3 - Applications: 2.35 GB
4 - Image, Video: 117 MB
5 - Audio: 600 KB
6 - Download: 8.00 KB
7 - Data cached: 667 MB
8 - Miscellaneous: 7.21 MB
If you do the math between Available and Miscellaneous (2,3,4,5,6,7,8)
Yr can not find the sum 1 (Available space)
Deviation of about 2.5 GB !!!
So I use the excellent manager of X-plore file to a "Map Drive" and I perceives that a system partion 2.47 GB in the famous 11,04Go apparently corresponding to at 64-bit part of Android.