Coming from Motorola: Moto like features on OPO? - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Unfortunately my moto X 2014 died, and its not in my budget to buy a new moto device right now (the additional cost of paying 20 for mofo to root, and 25 for sunshine to unlock bootloader also grates on my nerves).
I got a OPO instead off swappa within my budget, but i know I am going to miss some of the moto features. However, I know the opo is pretty adaptable too, and I was wondering what comparable features might be available either via ROM/mod/etc for the below.
1) Moto voice = screen off google now, without being plugged in. So i can say "ok google now" at any point, and my phone will light up and listen. I use this to find the phone when ive lost it around the house, when driving, etc. I use it at least 10X a day.
2) Quick gestures: The wrist flip to activate camera on moto is awesome, gets you into camera very fast from any state. Any similar feature, or perhaps knock code to jump right into camera? Physical button mapping?
3) Same as 2, but for turn on flashlight.
4) Active display.... this one, im probably going to lose with the screen not being oled. Any quick way to see my notifications without turning the phone all the way on?

jbrukardt said:
Unfortunately my moto X 2014 died, and its not in my budget to buy a new moto device right now (the additional cost of paying 20 for mofo to root, and 25 for sunshine to unlock bootloader also grates on my nerves).
I got a OPO instead off swappa within my budget, but i know I am going to miss some of the moto features. However, I know the opo is pretty adaptable too, and I was wondering what comparable features might be available either via ROM/mod/etc for the below.
1) Moto voice = screen off google now, without being plugged in. So i can say "ok google now" at any point, and my phone will light up and listen. I use this to find the phone when ive lost it around the house, when driving, etc. I use it at least 10X a day.
2) Quick gestures: The wrist flip to activate camera on moto is awesome, gets you into camera very fast from any state. Any similar feature, or perhaps knock code to jump right into camera? Physical button mapping?
3) Same as 2, but for turn on flashlight.
4) Active display.... this one, im probably going to lose with the screen not being oled. Any quick way to see my notifications without turning the phone all the way on?
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1. There's a "Hey Spandragon" feature which essentially does the same thing. I believe it's a mod though, so you'd need to find it and flash it.
2. Draw a circle on the screen to activate camera, draw a V on the screen to activate torch. Music gestures are: two finger swipe up to play/pause, right facing arrow to skip track, left facing arrow for previous track.
3. See above.
4. No.

Answer for your option - 3
Using an app called Torchie, just press both 'volume buttons' together to turn on/off torch anytime. It runs as a background service and just works anytime, even when screen off (if enabled from Torchie Settings). It kinda make your phone feel like a conventional battery operated torch. No root required.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.blogspot.anselmbros.torchie
XDA Thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-torchie-torch-volume-buttons-anytime-t3270230

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Camera quick-launch method - WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU DOING, HUAWEI?!

So I took delivery of my P20 Pro this afternoon. I'm reserving judgment on the camera but so far I'm pretty happy. There's one thing I'm completely flabbergasted by though
Huawei have replaced the stock 'double-tap power for camera' functionality with 'double-tap volume down'.
On the face of it this might not seem so bad, but it means a couple of things:
1 - you can't launch the camera quickly if you are actually using the phone. On other devices I would often be using an app when a photo opportunity arose, so with the Huawei I have to either go back to the home screen and click the camera app or press the power button and launch it from the lockscreen. This might not seem much but when a split second photo opportunity arises these couple of seconds can mean the difference between catching and missing a shot.
2 - you can't use the volume down method when you're playing anything. So if you're walking through the countryside playing your favourite album and suddenly a unicorn gallops past...again those couple of seconds mean you might miss the moment.
This might seem like nit picking but this is a *camera centric* phone. There's no advantage I can think of for the alternative camera shortcut method Huawei have adopted - the double-tapping power method serves no other conflicting purpose, and it's not even as if the volume down button is in a more convenient position.
I can't help but think this is a poorly conceived decision on Huawei's part - or worse still, change for change's sake.
I notice they've also turned the Oreo multimedia notifications into an exercise in excruciatingly unimaginative blandness - seemingly just to 'not be stock Androidy in any way'.
I'm not going to write off the phone as it seems like a nice bit of kit overall, but I really hope Huawei make some changes to the UI of this phone over its lifetime because I can't help but feel like some of their decisions (and they are very proactive decisions) are a little...shoddy.
You'll get used to it really quickly.
Also, it doesn't just open the camera, it takes a picture. Even tells you how quickly it has done it. I have found this really useful.. My kids sometimes do amusing things, but don't sit still for longer than a second,
It's impossible to get used to as I listen to podcasts and music on my phone all the time. How does it taking a picture make any difference anyway? Couldn't the same thing apply if they used the power button instead, or would that preclude this option?
Yeah there's literally no reason for them not to use the power button. It's just bad design all round.
It may be to keep functionality the same across all markets (IE too lazy) as it's a requirement in India that a triple press of the power button calls the emergency services. So they couldn't really leave in double press for camera in case of accidents.
Every other OEM destroys stock functions in one way or the other..
Did you try a button remapper app ?
Wouldn't it be easier to just press home and hit camera? Just saying. I've never used a quick launch and i've never missed a shot
Jonathan-H said:
Wouldn't it be easier to just press home and hit camera? Just saying. I've never used a quick launch and i've never missed a shot
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How is that easier than double tapping the power button in literally any scenario - screen off, screen on, in an app, watching a video. If that scenario were just as easy then why would they (or anyone else) have a button shortcut at all?
The point is that no matter what I'm doing - whether the screen is off or not - I can double tap the power button and the phone vibrates and instantly opens the camera app, ready for a shot - so let's say I'm browsing Reddit sat on a park bench and a man dressed as Elvis runs past me pursued by a gaggle of geese - no problem - I won't miss that shot.
You might never have missed a shot and you might not use this feature but my point is not to force the feature on anyone - it's to ask why Huawei chose a worse methodology for quick launching the camera than the stock Android one - such as the one on my Nokia - and the one implemented by Samsung and LG (in their newest G7). The power button is not only separate from the volume buttons (and therefore easier to find 'blind') but has a ridge on it.
leoni1980 said:
So I took delivery of my P20 Pro this afternoon. I'm reserving judgment on the camera but so far I'm pretty happy. There's one thing I'm completely flabbergasted by though
Huawei have replaced the stock 'double-tap power for camera' functionality with 'double-tap volume down'.
On the face of it this might not seem so bad, but it means a couple of things:
1 - you can't launch the camera quickly if you are actually using the phone. On other devices I would often be using an app when a photo opportunity arose, so with the Huawei I have to either go back to the home screen and click the camera app or press the power button and launch it from the lockscreen. This might not seem much but when a split second photo opportunity arises these couple of seconds can mean the difference between catching and missing a shot.
2 - you can't use the volume down method when you're playing anything. So if you're walking through the countryside playing your favourite album and suddenly a unicorn gallops past...again those couple of seconds mean you might miss the moment.
This might seem like nit picking but this is a *camera centric* phone. There's no advantage I can think of for the alternative camera shortcut method Huawei have adopted - the double-tapping power method serves no other conflicting purpose, and it's not even as if the volume down button is in a more convenient position.
I can't help but think this is a poorly conceived decision on Huawei's part - or worse still, change for change's sake.
I notice they've also turned the Oreo multimedia notifications into an exercise in excruciatingly unimaginative blandness - seemingly just to 'not be stock Androidy in any way'.
I'm not going to write off the phone as it seems like a nice bit of kit overall, but I really hope Huawei make some changes to the UI of this phone over its lifetime because I can't help but feel like some of their decisions (and they are very proactive decisions) are a little...shoddy.
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My 2 cents: the Huawei P20 pro is not a "camera-centric" phone.
If it where, like the Nokia 808, the Lumia 1020, the Lumia 950, and some Sony, it would have a camera specific hardware button, period.
No way that anyone would think of a Camera with no shutter button.
Same for a "camera-centric" phone. 2 stages shutter button is part of the definition of it.
Look, The chinese know how to make great hardware because the western world outsource the product making to countries like china so after year s and years they learn from doing a copy. So now it comes down to software which is the other half of what makes a great phone and this is where i see many problems.
Huawei is poor in terms of software developping. Simply look at the launcher for exp and you ll see, gallery app, video player, video editor and more
As my previous device (LG V20) uses the same method (double-click volume down) to open camera, I has got no issue regarding the action. Only funny thing is that, at first, I didn't realize that the default mode take a picture when I double-click. I was so used to the way double-clicking while bringing up the camera. In that way, the camera is ready when the phone is in position and i can take photos. But later, I realized that there are so many blur pictures in my gallery. Only then I realized that it took picture by default. Quite easy to change the action in the camera setting though.
I'm on Resurrection Remix.
Double tap power key opens the camera from any screen no matter what.
If you're lucky enough to have unlocked your bootloader then give it a shot.
It is using the p20 pro camera too.
Wasnt this feature available under gestures in emui

Software (ease of use, features, etc)

When you hand your phone to granny to take a photo of you, can she get the job done? Rate this thread to express how you deem the OnePlus 6T's camera software. A higher rating indicates that the software is easy to use, fast, uncluttered, and inclusive of advanced features for when you need them.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
On my offical 48+ hours with the OP6T. Having issues setting up face unlock the phone is keeping me in the loop of entering pin/pattern and not opening the face unlock settings, maybe update or software glitch patch. just reset the phone after a full 39+ hour discharge and recharge of the battery, any help with the issue would be great.
I will give it points for the pro mode but outside of that, I find it could use a few more features. If the V40 camera app comes to the V30, I'm going back to it.
Split screen button is unnecessarily hidden under 3 dots on the multitasking screen. This option should be easy access there could be even a gest available for split screen
g_oral said:
Split screen button is unnecessarily hidden under 3 dots on the multitasking screen. This option should be easy access there could be even a gest available for split screen
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True. I'm not a Huawei fan but I like their knuckle gestures a lot. Swiping with the knuckle from left to right or view versa enters split screen mode for example.
g_oral said:
Split screen button is unnecessarily hidden under 3 dots on the multitasking screen. This option should be easy access there could be even a gest available for split screen
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You can set up the split screen shortcut under the navigation 'buttons' ie home button
I set my split screen shortcut as a home button long press
One plus 6T is good rather than other phones in its software and configuration.
Normally my Camera opens "instantly".
I encounter from time to time that my camera takes more than a second to start. It's a really fast phone, so what's the probleme here?
I got used to reliability on my OnePlus 5T. 6T is, well, lackluster. I need to reboot it at least once per day. hyperion takes ages to open and the screen is frozen in the meantime. Bluetooth... I am using 5-6 bt devices, and only 4 are on the list when you change volume. Weirdly, it's the disconnected ones, not the ones I am actually using. Sometimes the sound will just ignore BT and go through the phone speaker no matter what it's set to do - another reboot needed. Last weekend Sygic (satnav) crashed so badly the phone went black. No reaction. After holding all the buttons for 10 sec it rebooted to safe mode. Another reboot to normal, and all my settings, launcher, were gone.
Honestly, I want to love it. I do. But I actually hate it. Too bad I already gave my op5t to my daughter. It was soo much better.
Wow, today it just lost audio on voice calls. Why? Because previously I've been casting to a TV. So when the call came the stupid thing didn't know where to reroute audio. So after a while it decided f**k this, it's probably nothing important anyway.
only fixed by reboot. God I hate this phone!
I'm on stable 10 by the way.
I'm really happy with my OP 6T, just wished the camera was better.
I mean come on the secondary camera is only used for depth effect, so is only active in portrait mode...
The only other issue I have is the ambient display doesn't activate as it should imo, only a "hard pick up" will get it to switch on.

Double-tap, or Knock/Knock, to wake up the phone?

I got rather used to double-tapping the screen on my prior phones to either wake up or turn off the screen. I cannot find that feature within the Moto G7 Power Android 9 Pie configuration / setup. Looking around, this feature seems to be available in Android Pie generally.
What am I missing?
It's not a native feature. We're you using an LG phone? You can get it back if you use Nova launcher. At least for screen off, won't work for screen on.
As stated above, knock on is a feature of LG phones.
As an alternative, look for WaveUp on the play store. Open source app that turns in the wave feature not included in the G7.
Not as nice as the knock on, but one you get used to basically touching the proximity sensor, it works the same.
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lmao im thinking of switching to the Moto g7 from my Lg Aristo and I use double tap to wake all the time
Mixces said:
lmao im thinking of switching to the Moto g7 from my Lg Aristo and I use double tap to wake all the time
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I know! A little frustrating to move BACKWARD in an operating system feature set!
jlsatt4 said:
I know! A little frustrating to move BACKWARD in an operating system feature set!
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It should become a moto gesture, that'd be EPIC.
LG even make a fridge with a knock-on light so you can see what drinks you've got in the door.
Sorry, nothing useful to add! It's not a native feature of pie, however.
Tap your screen to semi-wake so lockscreen clock (if set) will appear then scroll up from bottom of screen and pin input appears. Proximity sensor seems poor so many taps may be needed.
Wouldn't the Face Unlock be much easier and prevent the need for a double tap? Of course it wouldn't work in dark areas. Things like these I think they implement because it might be better or easier
If someone makes a custom kernel and adds DTTW then your in like flin.

What is the most missed feature, compared to past Pixels?

For me, it'll have to be the notification LED I really miss that. Had different colours for different apps and even people, so I knew who or what it was without even picking up my phone to check.
I also miss the fingerprint sensor on all the banking apps etc but that'll be resolved in due course once the developers switch to the biometric API for Face Unlock.
What is it for you?
sidhaarthm said:
For me, it'll have to be the notification LED I really miss that. Had different colours for different apps and even people, so I knew who or what it was without even picking up my phone to check.
I also miss the fingerprint sensor on all the banking apps etc but that'll be resolved in due course once the developers switch to the biometric API for Face Unlock.
What is it for you?
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+ 1 on everything you have statted.
I have not yet purchased the Pixel 4 xl
And dont know if I will
Definitely rather have a LED light than AOD for sure.
Only the original quality photos and videos backup but not really. I'm actually using my 100GB Google One storage which I hardly touched. At my current rate of 1GB per 12 days, I'll be needing more space in just under 3 years. [emoji23]
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Hands down the finger print sensor. ? Unlimited Full Photo Backup as well. Wide angle selfie camera. I didn't think it was a huge deal on the 3 but I ended up using it quite a bit.
For sure LED notification and fingerprint sensor. I like the face unlock but also want to have the choice to not use it and use a fingerprint instead. There's many times I will pull my phone out just to see the time then POOF...unlocked. Ugh! lol
(yes, I know PIN/Pattern can be used in lieu of face unlock)
Veritech said:
For sure LED notification and fingerprint sensor. I like the face unlock but also want to have the choice to not use it and use a fingerprint instead. There's many times I will pull my phone out just to see the time then POOF...unlocked. Ugh! lol
(yes, I know PIN/Pattern can be used in lieu of face unlock)
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There is also a setting to face unlock then go to the "lock screen" rather than all the way in. That's what I do. So tap the screen to see notifications or face unlock then swipe up.
Settings -> Display -> Lock Screen Display -> Skip Lock Screen toggle : On skips directly to last screen used (like your home screen). Turn it off and Face Unlock goes to your lock screen and you just swipe up to then go to the home screen.
nothing. I thought I'd miss the fingerprint sensor, but I don't Face unlock is so fast it would be unlocked before I could place my finger. I would like an ultra wide lens and top bezel to shrink but that was not on the older models either...just hoping those 2 are done on P5
I have a TB on Google one, so not a huge issue for me with photos. I save original quality. I had my subscription last year as well.
Autofocus for the front-cam, no doubt...
Biometric API is really bugging me and I bet we could wait a very, very long time before Devs start actually updating for it.
Nothing really. I thought I'd miss the LED, but I haven't really noticed it being gone much. The fingerprint sensor some, but mainly because a lot of my apps use it. Definitely miss the convenience of it. I'll be very happy once they start using the new API. I sort of miss the metal back of the 2xl. But, wireless charging is awesome, so it's kind of a toss up.
I DEFINITELY don't miss the notch on the 3. I didn't think it bothered me, until I got this phone. Now I can't understand how I went a full year with it...
At least for as long as only a few apps support biometric unlocking, it definitely is the fingerprint scanner. But I'm sure it's only a medium-term loss, and we'll see more apps being able to use biometric unlock very soon.

Moto Action and Display on the Pixel?

I'm using Motorola phones now for years and got
used to the Moto Display to show messages and emails without turning on the phone
and turning the flashlight on with the two chopping motions or Twist the wrist twice quickly to open the camera anytime.
But the motos are getting bigger and bigger, so I was looking for something more compact and found the Pixel 4a.
Is there a chance to have theses moto features on a Pixel?
Nordlicht_13 said:
I'm using Motorola phones now for years and got
used to the Moto Display to show messages and emails without turning on the phone
and turning the flashlight on with the two chopping motions or Twist the wrist twice quickly to open the camera anytime.
But the motos are getting bigger and bigger, so I was looking for something more compact and found the Pixel 4a.
Is there a chance to have theses moto features on a Pixel?
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Also a long time moto user. Displaying emails/messages on the lock screen is a native Android (not Moto) security feature that you can toggle on/off. Pixel 4a camera can be launched via double click of power button, similar to many other phones. Double chop flashlight toggle is a Moto specific action; I do miss that. At present I'm engaging flashlight by swiping down notifications and tapping the flashlight quick action icon...even when locked. Seems easy enough.
Nordlicht_13 said:
I'm using Motorola phones now for years and got
used to the Moto Display to show messages and emails without turning on the phone
and turning the flashlight on with the two chopping motions or Twist the wrist twice quickly to open the camera anytime.
But the motos are getting bigger and bigger, so I was looking for something more compact and found the Pixel 4a.
Is there a chance to have theses moto features on a Pixel?[/QUOTE
There's already lots of those options for the 2xl depending on which ROM you use. Too bad the 4a didn't get active edge. It's a nice feature if you remember to use it.
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DB126 said:
At present I'm engaging flashlight by swiping down notifications and tapping the flashlight quick action icon...even when locked. Seems easy enough.
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OnePlus has a screen off gesture setting (draw a V on the screen) which was excellent. I'm looking for Magisk or EdXposed module that would use a gesture for flashlight but haven't seen anything.
This might work:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinoooapp.gravitygestures&hl=en_US
has anyone tried this?
Nordlicht_13 said:
This might work:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinoooapp.gravitygestures&hl=en_US
has anyone tried this?
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Tried that... can't get it to work. It is able to detect my double twist, I can feel the vibration, but then camera won't launch (I set the action to launch camera). Apart from that, it is hard to get it to detect the gesture, compared to the smoothness on Motorola phones (I have had quite a few!)
My last phone is HTC U11, which has edge sense, so easy to launch the camera and taking photos with squeeze.
Now on Pixel 4a, I am making myself to get used to the power button double tab to launch cam, and volume button to take photos. Not as smooth but doable...
Is it maybe possible to install moto action from the apk-file on a Pixel?

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