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Coming from Motorola: Moto like features on OPO?

Unfortunately my moto X 2014 died, and its not in my budget to buy a new moto device right now (the additional cost of paying 20 for mofo to root, and 25 for sunshine to unlock bootloader also grates on my nerves).
I got a OPO instead off swappa within my budget, but i know I am going to miss some of the moto features. However, I know the opo is pretty adaptable too, and I was wondering what comparable features might be available either via ROM/mod/etc for the below.
1) Moto voice = screen off google now, without being plugged in. So i can say "ok google now" at any point, and my phone will light up and listen. I use this to find the phone when ive lost it around the house, when driving, etc. I use it at least 10X a day.
2) Quick gestures: The wrist flip to activate camera on moto is awesome, gets you into camera very fast from any state. Any similar feature, or perhaps knock code to jump right into camera? Physical button mapping?
3) Same as 2, but for turn on flashlight.
4) Active display.... this one, im probably going to lose with the screen not being oled. Any quick way to see my notifications without turning the phone all the way on?

jbrukardt said:
Unfortunately my moto X 2014 died, and its not in my budget to buy a new moto device right now (the additional cost of paying 20 for mofo to root, and 25 for sunshine to unlock bootloader also grates on my nerves).
I got a OPO instead off swappa within my budget, but i know I am going to miss some of the moto features. However, I know the opo is pretty adaptable too, and I was wondering what comparable features might be available either via ROM/mod/etc for the below.
1) Moto voice = screen off google now, without being plugged in. So i can say "ok google now" at any point, and my phone will light up and listen. I use this to find the phone when ive lost it around the house, when driving, etc. I use it at least 10X a day.
2) Quick gestures: The wrist flip to activate camera on moto is awesome, gets you into camera very fast from any state. Any similar feature, or perhaps knock code to jump right into camera? Physical button mapping?
3) Same as 2, but for turn on flashlight.
4) Active display.... this one, im probably going to lose with the screen not being oled. Any quick way to see my notifications without turning the phone all the way on?
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1. There's a "Hey Spandragon" feature which essentially does the same thing. I believe it's a mod though, so you'd need to find it and flash it.
2. Draw a circle on the screen to activate camera, draw a V on the screen to activate torch. Music gestures are: two finger swipe up to play/pause, right facing arrow to skip track, left facing arrow for previous track.
3. See above.
4. No.

Answer for your option - 3
Using an app called Torchie, just press both 'volume buttons' together to turn on/off torch anytime. It runs as a background service and just works anytime, even when screen off (if enabled from Torchie Settings). It kinda make your phone feel like a conventional battery operated torch. No root required.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.blogspot.anselmbros.torchie
XDA Thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-torchie-torch-volume-buttons-anytime-t3270230

Double tap to wake screen

Can anyone help.
I can't find the option to enable the double tap to wake the screen on my Xz Premium.
It's on my wife's Xz.
Thanks

dvdman2k said:
Can anyone help.
I can't find the option to enable the double tap to wake the screen on my Xz Premium.
It's on my wife's Xz.
Thanks
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Yeah, seems like Sony has removed that feature on XZs and XZ Premium

I hope they add it back. I wonder if it's something to do with the 4k screen? Does anyone know if it's on the z5 premium?
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Hello dvdman2k,
Yes the double tap to wake is on the Z5P; however I found it something of a mixed blessing as was inclined to wake from unintentional screen touches while in a pocket (in the Style Cover SCR46 with the active window). Having just migrated to the XZP I'd noticed the feature's absence, but almost with some relief !
Regards,
Kevin
PS. Having now used the device for a week or so, I've changed my opinion. There are some occasions when the Double Tap function would be very good to have. Others when I'd prefer it turned off (eg. to prevent inadvertent activation while in a jacket pocket). So my conclusion is that I'd like to see the functionality re-instated in the ROM , but with a user-controlled toggle in Settings so that it is flexible to suit requirements.

kevinpwhite said:
Hello dvdman2k,
Yes the double tap to wake is on the Z5P; however I found it something of a mixed blessing as was inclined to wake from unintentional screen touches while in a pocket (in the Style Cover SCR46 with the active window). Having just migrated to the XZP I'd noticed the feature's absence, but almost with some relief !
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Hi kevinpwhite
Coming from Moto Z I liked the feature where you could wave hand over the display and it would wake up & the finger. Print reader is on the front of the phone.
Sometimes I want to wake the screen without pressing the power Button.
Thanks
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I have double tap to lock using Nova Prime as my launcher. I don't use double tap to wake even when available because too often the screen starts up when the phone is in your pocket. However, I do wish that the fingerprint reader would unlock the phone WITHOUT having to actually press the button in just like most fingerprint readers work. Maybe they could make it work this way? In fact I am sure they could because when you are setting up your various fingers for access you do not have to push the button in. In fact if you accidentally do push it in while registering your prints it will close the screen and you have to start all over. SO I believe they could make it live/active just like any other fingerprint reader. How do we actually get these requests to Sony directly? I also wish they would unlink the ringtone volume from the notification volume.

Things might change in the next update.
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I miss double tap to wake/sleep
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This is a mandatory feature for me. I won't buy a phone without it. In fact, I pretty much need to have lift-to-wake and/or some kind of always-on-display. Pushing a power button to turn on your phone is so 2015.

greyhulk said:
This is a mandatory feature for me. I won't buy a phone without it. In fact, I pretty much need to have lift-to-wake and/or some kind of always-on-display. Pushing a power button to turn on your phone is so 2015.
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Per my earlier comments, I was initially slightly relieved after the Z5P's tendency to turn on when not wanted; however, have now revised my opinion and think it would be very useful - but needs a user-selectable toggle to suit circumstances. This approach has been mooted to the Developers on the Sony Forum (they've acknowledged) and there is quite a strong voice of similar views from other users. The more strength of feeling, the more likely the feature will be re-instated in a F/W update.... :fingers-crossed:
Best regards,
Kevin

if it really bothers you, you can just buy a roxfit urban slim case for it like i have. After using a xiaomi mi5 with tap to wake , its hard going back to the old ways lol, plus less pressing on physical buttons, the longer the hardware lasts!

please bring back

Try this to wake: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jarsilio.android.waveup&hl=en
Install Nova Prime for double tap to lock.
Works great. There are other apps that do similar things in the play store. YMMV

You can always buy the official case that has a screen unlock feature. Because of it I no longer see the need of double tap to wake but it would be handy to have. I am annoyed this feature is excluded though.

Any suggestion for a simple app to do the double tap wake/lock?

Ive been using https://kernel.andro.plus/yoshino.html for DTW
Of course you need a Unlocked Bootloader

Now I'm using WaveUp, it's not like the double tap but works well for both locking and unlocking. And it has a "pocket mode" for unlock the display when you take it out from your pocket, very useful.

Moto Action and Display on the Pixel?

I'm using Motorola phones now for years and got
used to the Moto Display to show messages and emails without turning on the phone
and turning the flashlight on with the two chopping motions or Twist the wrist twice quickly to open the camera anytime.
But the motos are getting bigger and bigger, so I was looking for something more compact and found the Pixel 4a.
Is there a chance to have theses moto features on a Pixel?

Nordlicht_13 said:
I'm using Motorola phones now for years and got
used to the Moto Display to show messages and emails without turning on the phone
and turning the flashlight on with the two chopping motions or Twist the wrist twice quickly to open the camera anytime.
But the motos are getting bigger and bigger, so I was looking for something more compact and found the Pixel 4a.
Is there a chance to have theses moto features on a Pixel?
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Also a long time moto user. Displaying emails/messages on the lock screen is a native Android (not Moto) security feature that you can toggle on/off. Pixel 4a camera can be launched via double click of power button, similar to many other phones. Double chop flashlight toggle is a Moto specific action; I do miss that. At present I'm engaging flashlight by swiping down notifications and tapping the flashlight quick action icon...even when locked. Seems easy enough.

Nordlicht_13 said:
I'm using Motorola phones now for years and got
used to the Moto Display to show messages and emails without turning on the phone
and turning the flashlight on with the two chopping motions or Twist the wrist twice quickly to open the camera anytime.
But the motos are getting bigger and bigger, so I was looking for something more compact and found the Pixel 4a.
Is there a chance to have theses moto features on a Pixel?[/QUOTE
There's already lots of those options for the 2xl depending on which ROM you use. Too bad the 4a didn't get active edge. It's a nice feature if you remember to use it.
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DB126 said:
At present I'm engaging flashlight by swiping down notifications and tapping the flashlight quick action icon...even when locked. Seems easy enough.
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OnePlus has a screen off gesture setting (draw a V on the screen) which was excellent. I'm looking for Magisk or EdXposed module that would use a gesture for flashlight but haven't seen anything.

This might work:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinoooapp.gravitygestures&hl=en_US
has anyone tried this?

Nordlicht_13 said:
This might work:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tinoooapp.gravitygestures&hl=en_US
has anyone tried this?
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Tried that... can't get it to work. It is able to detect my double twist, I can feel the vibration, but then camera won't launch (I set the action to launch camera). Apart from that, it is hard to get it to detect the gesture, compared to the smoothness on Motorola phones (I have had quite a few!)
My last phone is HTC U11, which has edge sense, so easy to launch the camera and taking photos with squeeze.
Now on Pixel 4a, I am making myself to get used to the power button double tab to launch cam, and volume button to take photos. Not as smooth but doable...

Is it maybe possible to install moto action from the apk-file on a Pixel?

The Quest for the Ultimate Experience (Solutions to Some Pixel Problems)

My 1st smartphone was a Palm Pre Plus (webOS), I got an Android next but Went back to WebOS with an HP Veer. ... Really liked how they implemented gestures properly a DECADE before anyone else. Was using Moto phones for nearly 8 years, really loved the Active Display & Moto Actions (camera flip & chop chop flashlight).
With my Moto Z2 Force dying and Moto basically making garbage or something ridiculously overpriced *cough*RAZR*cough* ... had to look elsewhere.
Got a Pixel 5 a few days ago. I hadn't experienced Android 9 or 10, so 11 is a bit step up from Oreo.
Always on display is pretty cool, not as good as Active Display, but better than the old Ambient Display.
Double tap power button to launch camera will work, although not as cool as flipping (I know 3rd party apps exist to mimic gestures, but I'm trying to keep phone as clean as possible for endurance)
Fluid Navigation Gestures can mimic proper Navigation - I'm sorry but the built in Pixel Navigation needs a lot of work. The Swipe up and hold for recent apps is very frustrating to use.
(Here is a solution to removing the 3 button Nav bar on Android 11 with terminal: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/irs1eb/hiding_the_3_dot_navigation_bar_on_android_11_root/)
(For reference, I disabled the left swipe bar. Kept the right swipe as a back button [the one idea I like of Google's], Right Swipe bottom edge -> Recent apps; Left Swipe bottom edge -> Back; Swipe up bottom edge -> Home [Just as it was on WebOS and Moto One Touch Nav]
Various Apps allow for "chop chop" for flashlight. Still testing which one is the best solution.
And Many thanks to @Tulsadiver For his work on the ancient 3Minit app to work with Pixel 5 /4a etc. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5/themes/3minit-battery-3minit-clock-t4177835 He also has a flashable Magisk module to remove Nav bar https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-5/themes/clock-mods-remove-navbar-mod-t4177829
With those mods, Battery can be changed to similar to Gravitybox Ring battery style and clock can be moved to center or right (the left clock is very annoying).
Just sharing a few things I've come across many different places. Some of this really just writing here for myself for memory and sharing if it'll be helpful for anyone else.
Cheers!

I bought a cheap Moto G7 Power and realized how much I deeply missed some of Moto's little tweaks. Chop and twist are big ones that I miss constantly. Still trying to get an app that implements it half as well. I'd really, really love if we could get a ring battery indicator around the hole punch to reclaim lost space and move the clock. Another killer feature that the Moto had me convinced was just another part of Android was scrolling screenshots. Deeply disappointed when I went to use it on the Pixel with a newer OS and it was missing.

Why are you finding the swipe up hard to use?
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somnambulantdead said:
I bought a cheap Moto G7 Power and realized how much I deeply missed some of Moto's little tweaks. Chop and twist are big ones that I miss constantly. Still trying to get an app that implements it half as well. I'd really, really love if we could get a ring battery indicator around the hole punch to reclaim lost space and move the clock. Another killer feature that the Moto had me convinced was just another part of Android was scrolling screenshots. Deeply disappointed when I went to use it on the Pixel with a newer OS and it was missing.
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Yeah I hear ya. The Active Display / Moto Display was great too. At least on the Moto X / X2, after that it wasnt as good but still better than what any other manufacturer has developed.
I've seen the app "energy ring" which does this, but the dev hasn't added support for Pixel 5 yet (it's been added for Pixel 4a, so I'm hoping support will come soon).
With Magisk and tweaks by Tulsadiver, the clock can be moved to the right, it looks much better.

Davey Dual Sim said:
Why are you finding the swipe up hard to use?
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The swipe up is fine, it's the swipe up + HOLD that bothers me. doesn't feel fluid or natural. One motion should control one action only.

roweboat56 said:
The swipe up is fine, it's the swipe up + HOLD that bothers me. doesn't feel fluid or natural. One motion should control one action only.
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Interesting, I'm finding it one movement , move up from bottom, then the hold is less than s second
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roweboat56 said:
The swipe up is fine, it's the swipe up + HOLD that bothers me. doesn't feel fluid or natural. One motion should control one action only.
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If you swipe up from the bottom about ½cm you don't need to do the hold action. It automatically loads the recent apps screen for me. Any higher and it'll take you back to the home screen without holding.

I just use Button Mapper to turn my volume button into a flashlight toggle when the screen is off. Much faster and works more often than the chop gesture. You can customize other stuff too wtih it. A nice all-in-one app.

A message to all ROM developers out there...

First off, I thank every individual out there making the F1 a much much better phone. No doubt it needs much recognition like you guys do.. but I want to make an announcement on behalf of all the custom ROM lovers out there.
We all know how fricked up miui is... But the only thing which makes miui a much preferred is a very minor thing which may not be a very major thing...
1. Raise to wake.
2. Double tap to sleep or wake all over the ROM(currently it's only on the lock screen and we need it on the home screen too and make us not depend on third party launchers like Nova.
3. Faster IR sensor reaction times. Like in miui the IR Sensor wakes faster than the miui lockscreen itself thereby allowing us to bypass the lockscreen entirely. Please please we need although it looks like a gimmick but these are some user experience thingies and I and all of us would love for you to add these too... And I appreciate everyone's hardwork at making this phone one of the best phones to ever release till date. Thank you

SimpleNeeds said:
First off, I thank every individual out there making the F1 a much much better phone. No doubt it needs much recognition like you guys do.. but I want to make an announcement on behalf of all the custom ROM lovers out there.
We all know how fricked up miui is... But the only thing which makes miui a much preferred is a very minor thing which may not be a very major thing...
1. Raise to wake.
2. Double tap to sleep or wake all over the ROM(currently it's only on the lock screen and we need it on the home screen too and make us not depend on third party launchers like Nova.
3. Faster IR sensor reaction times. Like in miui the IR Sensor wakes faster than the miui lockscreen itself thereby allowing us to bypass the lockscreen entirely. Please please we need although it looks like a gimmick but these are some user experience thingies and I and all of us would love for you to add these too... And I appreciate everyone's hardwork at making this phone one of the best phones to ever release till date. Thank you
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Not sure about 1 and 3 but 2 works fine on crdroid 6.11 . (it's default launcher controlled).
To add to that i've never used the IR camera wakeup thing, since it requires a fair amount of precision and it may wake up accidentally on occasions .
Raise to wake may be set by a set value on how hard you have to shake/lift the phone to wake it up. Basically it's fine tuning which is usually done when testing a rom / needs a person that's wiling to test just that.
Again, personally i find using 2 fingerprints being the fastest way to unlock a phone, since you can place your finger in the pocket and fully unlock it. Come to think of it i can think of a few cases where it can be useful, but still, those people usually buy iPhones, because they want to feel special.

EP21 said:
Not sure about 1 and 3 but 2 works fine on crdroid 6.11 . (it's default launcher controlled).
To add to that i've never used the IR camera wakeup thing, since it requires a fair amount of precision and it may wake up accidentally on occasions .
Raise to wake may be set by a set value on how hard you have to shake/lift the phone to wake it up. Basically it's fine tuning which is usually done when testing a rom / needs a person that's wiling to test just that.
Again, personally i find using 2 fingerprints being the fastest way to unlock a phone, since you can place your finger in the pocket and fully unlock it. Come to think of it i can think of a few cases where it can be useful, but still, those people usually buy iPhones, because they want to feel special.
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Lmao iPhone noobs be wrecked by Poco F1. For me the only thing that made me stay on the miui albeit the bugs is its pretty accurate raise to wake and the synchronisation between sensor and raise to wake. If I get it I'll be jumping on the roms the next day but then it's still not made yet

SimpleNeeds said:
First off, I thank every individual out there making the F1 a much much better phone. No doubt it needs much recognition like you guys do.. but I want to make an announcement on behalf of all the custom ROM lovers out there.
We all know how fricked up miui is... But the only thing which makes miui a much preferred is a very minor thing which may not be a very major thing...
1. Raise to wake.
2. Double tap to sleep or wake all over the ROM(currently it's only on the lock screen and we need it on the home screen too and make us not depend on third party launchers like Nova.
3. Faster IR sensor reaction times. Like in miui the IR Sensor wakes faster than the miui lockscreen itself thereby allowing us to bypass the lockscreen entirely. Please please we need although it looks like a gimmick but these are some user experience thingies and I and all of us would love for you to add these too... And I appreciate everyone's hardwork at making this phone one of the best phones to ever release till date. Thank you
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Regarding #2. : in LineageOS (and probably other custom ROMs), there is a new option that might get your interest. You can find it in Settings > System > Buttons > Edge long swipe action. I set it to Turn screen off.
This is what I used to "replace" double tap to sleep on Home screen to quickly put the phone to sleep.

duttyend said:
Regarding #2. : in LineageOS (and probably other custom ROMs), there is a new option that might get your interest. You can find it in Settings > System > Buttons > Edge long swipe action. I set it to Turn screen off.
This is what I used to "replace" double tap to sleep on Home screen to quickly put the phone to sleep.
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But i heard it doesn't have it yet maybe? Or did they change it?

SimpleNeeds said:
But i heard it doesn't have it yet maybe? Or did they change it?
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It was enabled on LineageOS 17.1 and now on 18.1