Sorry for this stupid question but can somebody tell me what's Undervolting and what's it's benefits ??
xMini said:
Sorry for this stupid question but can somebody tell me what's Undervolting and what's it's benefits ??
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It's the opposite of overvlocking..
it's used to have more battery life..
bruuuno said:
It's the opposite of overvlocking..
it's used to have more battery life..
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Isn't "Underclocking" the opposite of Overclocking ?!
I was asking about "Undervolting"...
Same clock speed less voltage so same power while using less juice
Most of the devs will think of everyone so the voltages are quite high but some people only need half that for a certain clock speed some need the full amount so the ones who dont need all that juice can undervolt on almost every frequancy and get mean battery savings!!!!
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Hi XDA,
I've got a problem whilst installing apps (obviously). I download an app from Play Store, it downloads, and whilst it says 'installing' I get a huge lag on my phone. It sometimes even freezes for a few seconds. When it finishes installing it goes back to normal like nothing happened. Its like whenever I install an app, I summon some kind of demon laggatron in my phone. Does anyone else experience this and how can I fix it?
Thanks <3
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ProVickers said:
I summon some kind of demon laggatron in my phone
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Hi,
:laugh:
Well, it happens sometimes with some huge apps when installing them. Lags yes, but no freezes, at least for me.
As far as I know nothing to do..., I would say that it's a known "problem".
Nope, the laggatron strikes every time, no matter the size of the app
I have Undervolted to 0.96GHz, does that change the game at all? I'm assuming that it takes more CPU power when installing apps, so my phone is no match for the laggatron
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You underclock to 960 Mhz, you mean max CPU freq
Maybe that explains all..., raise your max CPU freq a bit.
Yep. Tbh I wanna keep it, I only get problems with installing app lag, everything else is fine. Get 6hrs+ SOT, so defo worth the sacrifice.
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^^^
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
You underclock to 960 Mhz, you mean max CPU freq
Maybe that explains all..., raise your max CPU freq a bit.
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ProVickers said:
Yep. Tbh I wanna keep it, I only get problems with installing app lag, everything else is fine. Get 6hrs+ SOT, so defo worth the sacrifice.
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Honestly you will have the same battery life if you raise your max CPU freq to something like 1,5 Ghz at least (or 1,7 ghz) if you want to keep a certain amount of underclocking (maybe placebo effect...), seems counter-productive to me what you want to achieve...
Some users have the same SOT at stock CPU freqs then...
It depends of your usage too and other settings (brightness, synchro and so on).
But it's up to you, I would say try for a few days and see..., I'm sure you will have less lags with a higher CPU freq, at this point you have the reverse effect to me, all the CPU tasks take more time to be finished.
ProVickers said:
Nope, the laggatron strikes every time, no matter the size of the app
I have Undervolted to 0.96GHz, does that change the game at all? I'm assuming that it takes more CPU power when installing apps, so my phone is no match for the laggatron
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960mhz? yea, that changes the game, extremely. if you want to underclock, try 1574mhz, youll wont notice any underclocking affects.
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Honestly you will have the same battery life if you raise your max CPU freq to something like 1,5 Ghz at least (or 1,7 ghz) if you want to keep a certain amount of underclocking (maybe placebo effect...), seems counter-productive to me what you want to achieve...
Some users have the same SOT at stock CPU freqs then...
It depends of your usage too and other settings (brightness, synchro and so on).
But it's up to you, I would say try for a few days and see..., I'm sure you will have less lags with a higher CPU freq, at this point you have the reverse effect to me, all the CPU tasks take more time to be finished.
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simms22 said:
960mhz? yea, that changes the game, extremely. if you want to underclock, try 1574mhz, youll wont notice any underclocking affects.
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Really, it won't save any battery? I might as well give it a go then, always thought it was one of the major battery saving settings. Thanks for your advice guys!
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ProVickers said:
Yep. Tbh I wanna keep it, I only get problems with installing app lag, everything else is fine. Get 6hrs+ SOT, so defo worth the sacrifice.
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i get 5-6 hours sot at 2265mhz, no real tweaking, just set up properly, and with a great quality data/phone signal in my area. and i only use lte, 100% of the time. using the cpu at that low a level would never be worth it to me, 1574mhz would be the very minimum for me.
simms22 said:
i get 5-6 hours sot at 2265mhz, no real tweaking, just set up properly, and with a great quality data/phone signal in my area. and i only use lte, 100% of the time. using the cpu at that low a level would never be worth it to me, 1574mhz would be the very minimum for me.
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Common 2265MHz is your personal minimum or how do you get the 40000 benchmarks lmao
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kufikugel said:
Common 2265MHz is your personal minimum or how do you get the 40000 benchmarks lmao
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2572mhz
I'm at 1.57GHz or whatever you recommended. And battery life looks just like it did before, awesome! Although I do still get a tiny bit of lag still, there's no freezing at all. Will have to just wait to see if it goes well. Thanks!
Me 1-0 Laggatron
simms22 said:
i get 5-6 hours sot at 2265mhz, no real tweaking, just set up properly, and with a great quality data/phone signal in my area. and i only use lte, 100% of the time. using the cpu at that low a level would never be worth it to me, 1574mhz would be the very minimum for me.
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Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Honestly you will have the same battery life if you raise your max CPU freq to something like 1,5 Ghz at least (or 1,7 ghz) if you want to keep a certain amount of underclocking (maybe placebo effect...), seems counter-productive to me what you want to achieve...
Some users have the same SOT at stock CPU freqs then...
It depends of your usage too and other settings (brightness, synchro and so on).
But it's up to you, I would say try for a few days and see..., I'm sure you will have less lags with a higher CPU freq, at this point you have the reverse effect to me, all the CPU tasks take more time to be finished.
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lag and stutters yes especially when you're installing 3-4 apps or more on the queue. but never freeze. anyway i just recently switch to f2fs file system and the stutter is gone when you are installing apps with more in queue.
VaccaThreeSixteen said:
Nope, the laggatron strikes every time, no matter the size of the app
I have Undervolted to 0.96GHz, does that change the game at all? I'm assuming that it takes more CPU power when installing apps, so my phone is no match for the laggatron
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Whaaaaaaat???
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Dem old thread bumps tho.
Happens all the time in Q&A lol.
adichandra said:
lag and stutters yes especially when you're installing 3-4 apps or more on the queue. but never freeze. anyway i just recently switch to f2fs file system and the stutter is gone when you are installing apps with more in queue.
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Were you sleeping under a rock for the past couple months?
Lol i use tapatalk and didnt notice the date lol
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Would it be safe to overclock to 2.8GHz with the CPU Governor as "intelliactive" and leave it there for normal use?
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Probably.
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With some tweaking it should be stable. My one question though... Why? Who needs that much power lol
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wtoj34 said:
With some tweaking it should be stable. My one question though... Why? Who needs that much power lol
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The real question is why not? LOL. Honestly though I just like finding new things to do with my phone and coming from a locked Galaxy S4 I have to say I'm enjoying the amount of things I can do with this device that I couldn't on the S4. The extra 600MHz was because I was hoping it would drop any chances of lag with my favorite apps & Xposed which always seems to cause a delay or two for me. On the other hand I like squeezing what I can out of it. Same with my Desktop too, get maximum stable over clock and stick with it. ;D. If there's some downsides such as life shortage feel free to mention it though because I'd rather know early on than when it's too late. Sorta the point of this thread
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S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
The real question is why not? LOL. Honestly though I just like finding new things to do with my phone and coming from a locked Galaxy S4 I have to say I'm enjoying the amount of things I can do with this device that I couldn't on the S4. The extra 600MHz was because I was hoping it would drop any chances of lag with my favorite apps & Xposed which always seems to cause a delay or two for me. On the other hand I like squeezing what I can out of it. Same with my Desktop too, get maximum stable over clock and stick with it. ;D. If there's some downsides such as life shortage feel free to mention it though because I'd rather know early on than when it's too late. Sorta the point of this thread
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I've got my i5 2500k overclocked to 4.3 GHz now stock voltage . As for life shortage its hard to say. I would monitor temps on stock vs over clocked and compare. As long as it doesn't get considerably warmer which for mobile would be 10° more or less you should be fine
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wtoj34 said:
I've got my i5 2500k overclocked to 4.3 GHz now stock voltage . As for life shortage its hard to say. I would monitor temps on stock vs over clocked and compare. As long as it doesn't get considerably warmer which for mobile would be 10° more or less you should be fine
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Well with normal use it gets like 40-55 C (CPU) and during an Antutu benchmark just at the beginning it hit 75C sooo not very happy with that.... especially considering that's in the highs for a lot of desktop processors, can't even imagine how bad that must be for a phone processor LOL. It was @2.803 MHz with voltage of "1130" & ondemand governor. Not so sure as to what "1130" is based on though as I'm new to mobile over clocking, guess I'll figure it out tomorrow!
Edit: Forgot to include that just a few minutes ago I flashed a new kernel due to some random lag, old one never hit above 50 even on tests (with intelliactive). Also using ondemand/interactive now. Gonna re check the differences on those two governors tomorrow and decide which one I wanna go with! : D
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Very cool. Now you got me wanting to overclock. Bad things happen when I cross paths with those numbers
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2898705
I'm curious if there is a custom version of TWRP for the Nexus 5. I think I've seen screenshots that have temp of the CPU on the N5, but I haven't been able to find a custom version. If there is, could someone link me to it please? Thanks in advance!
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procitysam said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2898705
I'm curious if there is a custom version of TWRP for the Nexus 5. I think I've seen screenshots that have temp of the CPU on the N5, but I haven't been able to find a custom version. If there is, could someone link me to it please? Thanks in advance!
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What features are you after? Themes can add CPU tmperature such as this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...e-twrp-materialised-dark-light-play-t2915611/
rootSU said:
What features are you after? Themes can add CPU tmperature such as this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...e-twrp-materialised-dark-light-play-t2915611/
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Specifically something that doesn't run all CPU cores at max speed. If in recovery too long, that could lead to hardware damage.
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I've never heard if any troubles with phones using full speed during recovery. In that case you shouldn't play heavy games (or even simple games), watch movies, stream video and so on. Don't worry about this, the weak parts of a phone are battery, screen, buttons, orts, not the use of a recovery. This is cosmetic without any proven effect, like UV for preserving battery and so on. Even using it ten minutes every day won't cause any damage.
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Specifically something that doesn't run all CPU cores at max speed
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Nope. Never seen one.
procitysam said:
If in recovery too long, that could lead to hardware damage.
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Not really. CPUs are built to be able to withstand this. Damage comes from excess heat and higher clock. I.e over volt.
Alright, thanks everyone.
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Just in case anyone doesn't know this, CPU load / utilisation and CPU clock speed are not synonymous. A CPU can be clocking at 2 GHz or whatever but only be under 5% load. Sure, governors will usually ramp the CPU clock up under high loads. But if you think about the performance governor in Android for example, it sets the CPU at max frequency all the time, but the load will not always be 100% in fact it will hardly ever be 100%
Also if you look at a laptop, it will be clocking high, most of the time maybe not always max, but often not far off
Most android governors will get you to max clock long before 100% some even at 50%