Hi guys,
my girlfriend has the first generation Moto G with only 8gb of storage. I've put CM12 on it a long time ago, and everything worked very well. But lately shes been running into problems concerning the phones storage. She regularly can't download apps because there is no space left on the phones internal memory. She has barely any music, videos and even apps on it, so these things can't be reduced any further.
The only solution i came up with so far is to use a ROM that still offers Dalvik instead of ART. But that's probably not enough for a long term solution.
Does anybody know ROMs that uses the smallest possible amount of storage on the device? I appreciate all other solutions as well.
Thanks a lot!
Best solution is to get a better phone with 32 or 16 GB.. but still considering your request
you can try SLIM rom even though they stopped making 4.4.4 roms and are currently back making 5.1.1 roms and their roms are <200mb (as their name suggests "SLIM").
but still i dont think flashing a low data consuming rom is going to help out.. i guess its time to get a new device
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Hi all...first time poster, long time reader. (Mostly because someone has usually solved my problem for me six months in advance.)
My Inspire has been rebooting at random for about the last six months. The rate varies from once every couple of days to once every couple of hourse. Most of the existing answers are "replace the battery." I think that makes sense in cases where phones reboot while under strain (watching a video, during a call, etc.) because higher current draw would pull down voltage if a battery is failing. Not in my case, though. About 80% of the time that I notice a reboot, the phone is either in a pocket or on the desk.
For a few days I thought that I had solved it by removing the Facebook app. I had noticed a correlation between using Facebook at the phone restarting, and not using Facebook really did seem to make a difference for about a week. (Upon further investigation, that seems to hold across different ROMS. This has been happening with the stock rom, Ice Cold Sandwitch, and JellyTime.) But it isn't 100% better. I currently get about one reset every two days that I notice, and probably more that I don't notice.
That leaves me wondering, what could be going on? Is my hardware borked? Should I try flashing a different radio? I have had this phone for about 22 months and it would be nice to hold onto it a little while longer. Otherwise it has been a reasonably decent device.
-Tim
ZircularLogic said:
Hi all...first time poster, long time reader. (Mostly because someone has usually solved my problem for me six months in advance.)
My Inspire has been rebooting at random for about the last six months. The rate varies from once every couple of days to once every couple of hourse. Most of the existing answers are "replace the battery." I think that makes sense in cases where phones reboot while under strain (watching a video, during a call, etc.) because higher current draw would pull down voltage if a battery is failing. Not in my case, though. About 80% of the time that I notice a reboot, the phone is either in a pocket or on the desk.
For a few days I thought that I had solved it by removing the Facebook app. I had noticed a correlation between using Facebook at the phone restarting, and not using Facebook really did seem to make a difference for about a week. (Upon further investigation, that seems to hold across different ROMS. This has been happening with the stock rom, Ice Cold Sandwitch, and JellyTime.) But it isn't 100% better. I currently get about one reset every two days that I notice, and probably more that I don't notice.
That leaves me wondering, what could be going on? Is my hardware borked? Should I try flashing a different radio? I have had this phone for about 22 months and it would be nice to hold onto it a little while longer. Otherwise it has been a reasonably decent device.
-Tim
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Tim, random reboots can occur due to lack of memory. See if your internal memory is almost full. In that case, try deleting some apps or sending a couple to he sdcard. Take into consideration, that not all apps work fine from the sdcard, so just send the ones you like less...BTW, are you rooted or just stock?
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Tim, random reboots can occur due to lack of memory. See if your internal memory is almost full. In that case, try deleting some apps or sending a couple to he sdcard. Take into consideration, that not all apps work fine from the sdcard, so just send the ones you like less...BTW, are you rooted or just stock?
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That's an explanation I had not found. Internal storage looks OK in my case, with 701MB currently available out of 1.13GB. If it matters, the SD card currently shows 3.86GB avaliable out of 7.39GB. (I have tried with and without the SD card, and it doesn't seem to matter.) Maybe I should increase the free memory setting?
To answer your question, the phone is currently rooted and running IceColdSandwich 8.8 AOKP. If anything it reboots less frequently in the current configuration than it did on the stock ROM. I have not tried any Jellybean ROMs for more than a day at a time, so I'm not sure if that would be better.
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That's an explanation I had not found. Internal storage looks OK in my case, with 701MB currently available out of 1.13GB. If it matters, the SD card currently shows 3.86GB avaliable out of 7.39GB. (I have tried with and without the SD card, and it doesn't seem to matter.) Maybe I should increase the free memory setting?
To answer your question, the phone is currently rooted and running IceColdSandwich 8.8 AOKP. If anything it reboots less frequently in the current configuration than it did on the stock ROM. I have not tried any Jellybean ROMs for more than a day at a time, so I'm not sure if that would be better.
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Sounds to me like your hardware is bad. I have had my Inspire 4g for two years and the only issues I have had was maybe three apps force closing. I have never had the phone its self freeze or reboot. I have tried all kinds of ROMS and right now I have 4 regulars I stay with and alternated monthly. I Use Energy, Revolution, Smart Droid Red venom edition, and JB 10.1. All those ROMS are stable and cause no issues as you have described.
So from a tech view if I had your issues and it happens with all ROMS then that leaves only the hardware to be at fault.
Hi,
Sorry if this has been posted before, I didn't find anything related on here though.
Since updating my Nexus 5 to Lollipop when it was released, it has been a huge annoyance most of the time. Fresh after a reboot it's fine but the longer I use it (it usually starts after about a day), the worse it gets. It lags badly, sometimes freezes and apps get killed constantly (even if I only go back to the homescreen for a second, apps are being closed immediately). I did a factory reset which didn't help for very long, tried a different ROM (Paranoid) and regularly clear the cache (which also helps a bit but not for very long either). The RAM is never fully used and I have several GB of disk space left, so I can't explain why it's behaving like this.
I don't know what else to do or to try and while I found a couple of articles via Google, I didn't come across any solutions that helped. I hope you can help me, I don't want to go back to Kitkat...
Thanks,
Manu
Pretty sure you're talking about the memory leak issues that MANY people have experienced. 5.1 will hopefully resolve a lot of them.
This was my first guess, too. But wouldn't a memory leak use up all the RAM? I usually have a fair chunk free even though my phone is barely usable anymore. Nevertheless, I will flash the factory image this weekend and hope for the best!
I've got the GT-N5120 LTE, sim free. It's running low on memory, and I keep getting warnings. I've been using this for two years and it's my first Android device.
I've uninstalled and removed app after app, and it seems to help for a short while, but then the warnings are back again.
I empty cache a couple of times a day. I checked for solutions for unrooted devices. One suggestion was the *#9900# and then "delete dumpstate/logcat." Doesn't make any difference.
What other solutions are there? I'm planning to go 4.4. I've held off because of troubling reports of poor S-pen alignment with 4.4. and poor battery life (which already is so so). I've also held off because if I do, rooting and using any custom ROM probably will be impossible because of Knox. Might going 4.4 improving anything with respect to the used RAM?
(BTW, my 128GB SD Ultra card got "killed" while in the device, and then the low memory warnings started appearing).
Hello,
I would like to ask you, the experienced modders and users of xda, what CFW would you recommend me to install in case I'm looking for a long lasting battery and a smooth experience (rather a minimalistic system than a sleek, but laggy one)? I basically only use my PhQ for reading and writing SMS messages and e-mails, for web browsing, for chatting and internet (video)telephony. Occasionally I watch a YT video or use the GPS navigator.
Given the fact, that the phone has only 1 GB RAM and a 1.5 GHz dual-core processor, would you recommend me flashing it with the up-to-date LineageOS 14.1, or shall I stay with the older, but (supposedly more) stable build of CM 11? Or is there a different (slim) CFW, that would provide me high stability, fast response and good battery life?
Thanks.
I'd use newer than CM11 for sure. Lollipop (CM12) uses ART which makes stuff faster, and improved battery usage, so that's the minimum I'd consider.
I dunno exactly which version off the top of my head, but somewhere later than CM11 ZRAM was added, which keeps stuff from swapping to disk as often, so faster. F2FS support was also added, so if you reformat data/cache as f2fs before you install, that'll speed up disk access too.
I personally see no reason not to use the latest since it has all that, and is officially supported, so if you find something wrong there's people to talk to...
Well, maybe it was just my wrong assumption, but I thought I might want to keep using CM11, because I had read and heard, that Android 5.0 and above had higher HW requirements compared to Android 4.4.4, possibly making the phone with such specifications slower. On the other hand, I've read, that the RAM management and power management are both better with newer versions of Android, therefore I decided to post this question here and ask you xda guys (and girls) for your opinions.
You might be right, I'm no expert, and it's been quite a while since I ran kitkat. But lollipop (on our device) seemed faster to me, and battery definitely better. ZRAM also helps our low memory situation run modern apps, my understanding is it basically compresses what's in memory. Kinda like stacker did for hard drives back in the day if you remember the early 90s. So yeah, it slows down memory access all the time. However, the OS has to swap apps you're not actively using to disk when it needs memory for your current app, and in worst case scenario even will swap background apps out of memory that you expect to remain active. So by using zram, you get effectively more ram even tho its slower to access it, but overall makes things faster. And people who've done actual tests can confirm f2fs speeds things up on any device. I only just started using nougat myself so dunno how it affects performance, probably not any better than CM12/CM13 with zram implemented and f2fs format...
I belive KitKat even supports zram, but as far as I know wasn't implemented in CM11 for our device.
Also, dunno if it was in L or M, but you can now utilize external_sd cards easier. Don't have to keep setting paths for camera/etc to use external_sd, it blends it with your internal storage somehow, haven't paid attention to how it works, but haven't had a need to mess with paths ever since, and since we have only 8GB internal, that's also another nice feature; one completely easily fill that up without any photos or even going crazy with apps. Apparently our device will even work with 128G SDcards, although I only have the same 32G I've used forever. So for me on this device, it's CM12 or newer.
Alright, thanks for your advice. I will appreciate any other input and experience, though.
I'm interested what others might say too actually, I wanna know if other people agree or disagree with me! But being this is an older device, not very active community anymore. Only reason I'm on here every day lately is cuz I just updated myself, which had me checking into things, and am now looking for help getting the keyboard working right (in another thread).
I was running CM11 cm-11-20150626-SNAPSHOT-XNG3CAO1L8-moto_msm8960_jbbl.zip
finally decided to try CM12.1 cm-12.1-20151007-SNAPSHOT-YOG4PAO339-xt897.zip
Its smooth so far, but I'd love to try the lastnightyly/snapshot you have from March 2016 @enigma9o7
so my galaxy s7 phone did it recently
exactly after one year warranty just expired the phone became painfully slow
it was a brand new phone sent from samsung as a replacement for my broken phone replaced under warranty
had zero problems for a whole year and i mean zero like no issues with speed or freezing at all
never dropped or dipped in the water to test the water resistance
always in a case since day one. no crazy apps. actually same exact apps that i have on all my phones.
no new apps were installed before slowdown
i already deleted some apps. cleaned up app cache individually and reset cache from boot screen
tested in safe mode and still slow
im not sure if the update was installed recently or not but the slowdown happened about 2 months ago. was there a tmobile update at that time?
im not really sure.
but this is the third phone that did this.
galaxy s5 that i also bought brand new for a year was well maintained and had no problems
that phone actually started lagging really bad and shutting down multiple times a week or restarting....
before that galaxy s3 did same thing. after exactly a year it became ridiculously slow for absolutely no reason
i install all the apps i use right out of the box. change all the settings to what i want and dont really make any changes after and it usually very stable for about a year
is there an app that i can use to troubleshoot?
or an app that will show me what component is slowing down the system in real time?
obviously something is slowing down the OS, theres gotta be an app that can trace the faulty app or file or component
i cant be the only one who noticed that
is there really no way to pinpoint what is slowing down the phone?
why do i have to reset everything every time it gets slow
isnt there an app that can diagnose what is loading up the system?
this phone is painfully slow suddenly with no apparent reason
Have you been able to view the CPU activity and the RAM allocation?
I am not sure how to do this, but if possible, it might reveal what is happening.
I would try disabling some of the applications one by one. First suspects would be:
1. Facebook
2. Google Play Store.
3. Youtube.
Disable one, then try the phone. If still the same, disable second and try etc.
Jim.
How is your device storage. Once you use more then 50% device storage android starts to lag. It's an issue with the OS.
device storage has always been about the same since brand new. which is about 80% on average.
doesnt safe mode disable all non stock apps? i tried safe mode with same result
windows has a resource monitor that helps alot but i dont know if android has any monitoring app that could help troubleshoot this
Samsung devices are known for getting laggy over time, try a different phone next time, in the meantime, do a factory reset and start fresh.
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device storage .......................... about 80% on average.
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This is very suspect to me, but I am only a beginner.
Given zelendel's post about (re 50%), I would investigate further. Did you note his credentials?
What does all that data consist of?
What is the total storage capacity of the phone?
Perhaps some of that storage capacity is used as "swap" memory? Just guessing...........I am extrapolating Linux terminology here.
about 10-15 gigs of that is music/videos for airplane or when i have no internet. its been there since i got the phone
other things come and go like downloads documents videos images
im surprised theres no apps to troubleshoot the phone lagging when theres so many people having that problem and the best solution is to just reset the phone. which should be the last resort
if resetting the phone works most of the time then there should be an app that could look for conflicts as it runs in the background.
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about 10-15 gigs of that is music/videos for airplane or when i have no internet. its been there since i got the phone
other things come and go like downloads documents videos images
im surprised theres no apps to troubleshoot the phone lagging when theres so many people having that problem and the best solution is to just reset the phone. which should be the last resort
if resetting the phone works most of the time then there should be an app that could look for conflicts as it runs in the background.
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Depending on the amount of storage in your device that could be a lot.
Resetting the device wipes things. You really can't find an issue if the only issue is storage space. So here is a test. Remove stuff from your device. Give yourself a clean start and then go from there. Adding stuff slowly until it slows down.
I have had dozens of devices and the only time they ever got slow was due to getting low on phone storage.
This even encludes a 5 year old Samsung that I have that is as fast as the day I got it. Mind you there is nothing on it but some games for a kid. I even disabled all of Samsungs crap they install that slows a device down.
Could also be stuff acting up in the background
Run a log cat and see if anything is hanging.
cool thanks ill try that
got my internal memory to under 50%
reset cache again
deleted few apps and moved alot of them to SD card and cleared cache for those too
heres exactly whats happening
theres a delay for every action
2 wifi seems to drop in and out now since it got slow
3 facebook and browser wouldnt load anything on wifi
but as soon as i switch to data it works
i have to restart the phone alot now and close all apps multiple times a day to get them to work
also running safe mode had no effect on speed
i dont know when the last update was from tmobile but it might have been due to crappy update im not sure at this point
i got the phone last end of summer and it worked flawlessly every single day up until last 2 months exactly when warranty expired
how does samsung find faulty hardware when i send it in for service?
do they use an app?
ok this is getting ridiculous.
the phone wen to complete ****
facebook doesnt load posts unless i restert it by closing the app
phone just feels very slow overall.
constantly lags hangs. and in general just completely crappy performance slowly degrading.
i dont know why suddenly it started happening just like my last 3 phones
after about a year theres always a sudden decrease in performance and things start bugging and lagging etc
so theres no way to figure out why its slow?
isnt there some hardware tests or system scan or something that can help point to the problem?
Sorry to read that you are still having this problem Fuzzysig.
Did you try any of the suggestions in my post #4 and/or in Zelendel's post #10?
If so, which ones did you try and what resulted from those changes?
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so theres no way to figure out why its slow?
isnt there some hardware tests or system scan or something that can help point to the problem?
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Hi, I was a Samsung user too and faced the same problem.
I went through various threads which gave me multiple solutions: rooting, removing bloatware, cpu monitoring and many more.
None of that worked. The phone was so slow that it was not usable.
Ultimately I had to throw it and buy another phone.
Then I noticed this is not just me, all Samsung users face the same problem even the flagship users.
I swear I'll never buy a Samsung phone and never let anyone buy one.