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Hey guys, I consistently have the Captivate screen displayed as consuming about 90% and up of the battery life in the Android settings menu. Is this odd? I have the screen at the lowest brightness setting too. I don't make many calls but I do browse the internet a lot.
I have also noticed pretty poor battery life. Do you think a new battery from eBay would help. The build date on my battery says July 7 2010. I just bought this phone on craigslist and love it minus the battery life and gps.
No, that's normal. AMOLED screens use less power when displaying black pixels than normal TN or IPS screens but also consume more power when displaying non-black pixels.
So I guess if you stare at a black screen all day, it'll be more efficient.
If the pages you view have an option to change to a dark background, preferably completely black, do it. For instance I had all my e-book readers invert colors and it saved a lot of power.
New battery will likely not help. OEM batteries tend to be excellent.
hi all, I want to find out whether having the screen brightness on 10% really saves battery or is it better to have it on auto.
desiresiscool said:
hi all, I want to find out whether having the screen brightness on 10% really saves battery or is it better to have it on auto.
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It would be easy to test this yourself.
Set it to auto for a couple of days, make records.
Set it to 10% for a couple of days, make records.
You could also try a battery monitoring widget which shows mA consumed. These are great for this kinda thing.
To your question, I'd say it depends on ambient light. If you're somewhere where auto would set the brightness higher than 10% (read bright light situations), it will consume more battery. If you're somewhere dark, it could be that it will use the same. I keep mine set to 10%, and adjust as needed. I've found that auto often sets the brightness higher than I'd like to have it (I've got an SGS2, but I'm also very battery conscious).
I've found that the auto-brightness keeps the display much brighter than it really needs to be during operation in low ambient light (e.g. indoors), so I generally leave mine switched to manual and turned down.
Subjectively, keeping the display dimmer like this seems to make the battery last much longer, although naturally you'd need to do tests to have proof! Certainly well worth trying.
- Steve
can change in roms eg cm7.1 for auto brightness
I use Lux. Works very well on my stock TM-UK ROM.
Possibly the more effective software I used to increase battery life
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vito.lux
fasty said:
I've found that the auto-brightness keeps the display much brighter than it really needs to be during operation in low ambient light (e.g. indoors), so I generally leave mine switched to manual and turned down.
Subjectively, keeping the display dimmer like this seems to make the battery last much longer, although naturally you'd need to do tests to have proof! Certainly well worth trying.
- Steve
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i made the same experience with the auto-brightness. I also use a widget which lets me change the brightness on my homescreen, it's quick and very useful.
What is everyone thinking about the always on display? Will you be using it knowing that it costs 15% battery per day? Tbh, that sounds really high to me to light up such a small amount of the screen but I guess I don't know really
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I'll be shutting that feature off
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I'll keep it myself... awesome to be able to see that time and notification without turning the scren on
km8j said:
What is everyone thinking about the always on display? Will you be using it knowing that it costs 15% battery per day? Tbh, that sounds really high to me to light up such a small amount of the screen but I guess I don't know really
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Where did you read that it's going to use as much as 15% battery per day? That sounds quite ridiculous given the fact that LG stated that their Always on Display implementation drains 0.8% per hour. Which is around 19% per day (24h - day and night), but the G5 uses IPS panel. There's no way if an LCD is using 19% per day an OLED screens showing primarily black to be draining 15% a day...
What you need to factor in before you start saying how high battery usage is...... How many times per day do you check your phone for notifications etc??? If you are constantly checking for texts / Facebook updates or whatever then AOS is for you. Whilst it may use X amount extra per day of battery if uses LESS power than powering on the whole screen and taking the device out of idle to check if you have any missed calls etc. If you are one of these people you are better off using AOS.
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Where did you read that it's going to use as much as 15% battery per day? That sounds quite ridiculous given the fact that LG stated that their Always on Display implementation drains 0.8% per hour. Which is around 19% per day (24h - day and night), but the G5 uses IPS panel. There's no way if an LCD is using 19% per day an OLED screens showing primarily black to be draining 15% a day...
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Samsung said 1%/hour. Also, LG made some adjustments to be amoled-like: “To minimise power consumption,” said LG, “we redesigned the display driver IC memory and power management function so that the display’s backlight only illuminates one small part of the overall display. Thanks to this technology, the Always-on Display requires only 0.8 percent of the battery’s full capacity per hour to operate. With consumers turning on their smartphones up to 150 times a day mostly to just check the time, the G5’s Always-on Display will make a notable difference in the life of the battery over the course of the day.”
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What you need to factor in before you start saying how high battery usage is...... How many times per day do you check your phone for notifications etc??? If you are constantly checking for texts / Facebook updates or whatever then AOS is for you. Whilst it may use X amount extra per day of battery if uses LESS power than powering on the whole screen and taking the device out of idle to check if you have any missed calls etc. If you are one of these people you are better off using AOS.
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You also have to keep in mind that when it is face down or the screen is covered the screen is off until you turn it over or take it out of your pocket or purse.
Samsung said the feature will use 1% PER DAY, not per hour. http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-have-always-display
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Samsung said the feature will use 1% PER DAY, not per hour. http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-have-always-display
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Everywhere else I saw said 1% per hour which makes a lot more sense.
What's weird is it seems we cannot set it to turn off at night for example
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km8j said:
Everywhere else I saw said 1% per hour which makes a lot more sense.
What's weird is it seems we cannot set it to turn off at night for example
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LG said their always on display uses 0.8% per hour and it's an LCD, so how does it make sense that an AMOLED display would use more power? LG only lights up a third of the display for it to save power compared to a regular LCD, but that should still use a lot more power than lighting up just the pixels necessary. Frankly, I trust Android Central on this more than any other site. They got behind the scenes time with Samsung at MWC and they are typically very reliable. The sites I see reporting 1% per hour (phonearena, Android Authority, etc.) are sites that I find very unreliable as I spot mistakes in their articles and videos all the time. Just one site probably got it wrong and then every other site copied them on the wrong info.
Here's another source that says 1% per day, so it's not just Android Central. And I know I heard it from a third source too before Android Central even wrote about it, but I can't find that now.
https://youtu.be/JtPBBil56a8
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Here's another source: http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/features/samsung-galaxy-s7-always-on-display-faq/
Anyways, I guess we will know for sure when a lot of people start getting the phone. I will test it and will definitely turn it off if I find that it is using 16-20% of the battery in a day, but I really doubt it will use that much.
i think its going to be closer to the 1% per day because if you look at the s5's untra batter saver mode they have proven by reducing what the display has to show and reducing the processor power they can make the phone last a hell of a lot longer on the same charge
LG has an IPS display, Samsung has SAMOLED.
Samsung said that it should save battery because you only check the notofocations on the screen and didn't need to turn it on.
I'm not scarried from battery but from burning the display.
libb said:
LG has an IPS display, Samsung has SAMOLED.
Samsung said that it should save battery because you only check the notofocations on the screen and didn't need to turn it on.
I'm not scarried from battery but from burning the display.
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Worried about screen burn-in? Samsung has thought of this, too. Though the information displayed looks to often be a static image, the software is actually regularly shifting the pixels ever-so-slightly so that the same ones aren't used over and over again. This eliminates worry about those pixels "burning in" the lock screen image, and it's one you won't even notice happening. The phone also won't display the information when it detects it's in a pocket or a bag, and if you just don't like the feature you can always turn it off completely
That is a quote from the android central
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Everywhere else I saw said 1% per hour which makes a lot more sense.
What's weird is it seems we cannot set it to turn off at night for example
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1% per hour seems to be quite a lot, don't think that it's accurate.
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does anyone know what triggers the always on display to be dim some times and bright the next? i've been trying to find a cause and i dont see any. it will be dim one minute and just become bright for no reason it seems. this is with a black background and unplugged from the charger. i would like for it to stay dim to use even less battery.
Turned it off 2nd day. Uses too much battery. I only turn it on for when connecting to charger. It's definitely near 1% per hour. I Just have the lock screen wallpaper completely black so it doesn't drain batt just to see time.
Plus always on display is pointless when it doest tell me anything more than time.
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does anyone know what triggers the always on display to be dim some times and bright the next? i've been trying to find a cause and i dont see any. it will be dim one minute and just become bright for no reason it seems. this is with a black background and unplugged from the charger. i would like for it to stay dim to use even less battery.
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Mine does the same, i'm guessing it's designed that way to keep any sort of "burn in" or similar from happening after long term.
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Turned it off 2nd day. Uses too much battery. I only turn it on for when connecting to charger. It's definitely near 1% per hour. I Just have the lock screen wallpaper completely black so it doesn't drain batt just to see time.
Plus always on display is pointless when it doest tell me anything more than time.
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Maybe it's pointless to you, but I use it a lot just for the time. If your's is using close to 1% per hour, I suggest you get your phone replaced.
the always on display is definitely eating up around 1% battery an hour on my phone. this is with most of the bloatware disabled. i can look at my battery every hour and it will be down 1% some times 2%. i tested this with turning always display off for a couple hours and not turning my screen on and after 3 hours i lost 1% battery. i'm thinking it has something to do with the always on display becoming too bright at times and i dont know how to get it to stay dim.
Always on seems to turn off in pocket but not in the night. Is possible turt it in the dark and in the night automatically?
Do you guys think it would be possible for the Honor 8 to be getting an Always On display feature? I know the Pixel 2 has it and I just think it would be neat if Huawei incorporated that feature on to the Honor 8, whether it'd be on the (hopefully) upcoming update or some other way. In my opinion I think it would be better to have that feature instead of having your phone turn on normally (with the background and everything) to every notification you get (assuming you have that turned on like I do), plus it saves some battery life in the long run. What do you guys think?
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Do you guys think it would be possible for the Honor 8 to be getting an Always On display? I know the Pixel 2 has it and I just think it would be neat if Huawei incorporated that feature on to the Honor 8, whether it'd be on the (hopefully) upcoming update or some other way. In my opinion I think it would be better to have that feature instead of having your phone turn on normally (with the background and everything) to every notification you get (assuming you have that turned on like I do), plus it saves some battery life in the long run. What do you guys think?
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I think that it might eat more battery because honor 8 has lcd display and not amoled. Amoled display is only using battery on those pixels that are on, so blacks don't use any battery. Lcd display needs the whole display to be alight when its using even one pixel on the screen. I think that with lcd displays it's better to use the notification led which we already have.
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I think that it might eat more battery because honor 8 has lcd display and not amoled. Amoled display is only using battery on those pixels that are on, so blacks don't use any battery. Lcd display needs the whole display to be alight when its using even one pixel on the screen. I think that with lcd displays it's better to use the notification led which we already have.
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True, I never actually thought of that. So does that mean the always on feature is only on AMOLED phones?
Lg g6 has always on feature even though it has an LCD panel
xsacter said:
True, I never actually thought of that. So does that mean the always on feature is only on AMOLED phones?
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Im not saying that AOD would not work on LCD. There are some apps on google playstore that should do the trick. I dont know how well they work but you can try some. See if drain your battery.
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Im not saying that AOD would not work on LCD. There are some apps on google playstore that should do the trick. I dont know how well they work but you can try some. See if drain your battery.
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Yea those apps drain the battery. I remember trying it out on my old Nexus 5. However having that feature already integrated into the system of the phone and having a separate app are 2 different things as having it integrated into the system allows it to be more optimized, meaning that it could minimally affect battery life unlike having a separate app.
I use an AOD along with macrodroid so it only comes on when charging. My phone sits on a dock next to my bed so it becomes a night clock with the brightness set to low. Works pretty neat actually, but wouldn't recommend it for normal use as it eats the battery
Most phone manufacturer such as Xiaomi, Samsung, Google, etc have their versions of AOD. Why do you think it's hard for OnePlus to implement it given the fact that it was available on previous phones such as the 5/5T.
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Because they are not OK with the power consumption. They are working on it and I hope to see it live at some point in time.
Ia unbilivible. I think is the only oled phone without it...
It's unbelievable!!
What absolutely blows my mind is I can't have "tap once to show ambient display" and "double tap to wake phone" on at the same time. This was no problem on my S10+.
I personally dont care about it. BUT they would just give us the option to have it. If we want it and enable it and can live with the lesser battery than thats our decision. If I want better battery life then I disable it and use the normal ambient display.
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What absolutely blows my mind is I can't have "tap once to show ambient display" and "double tap to wake phone" on at the same time. This was no problem on my S10+.
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I believe that's because of them being conflicting actions... I agree though, it would be extremely useful to have both
I don't think it's because of the battery. I think it's because their proximity sensor isnt working good enough or consumes too much power to make sure the aod doesn't activate in the pocket.
Although one could easily Dodge that by using the ambient light sensor to check for 0 lux. But maybe that one consumes too much too because of the under display tech.
Sometimes I think they are trying to avoid unwanted complaints. You see just because it may be a choice that the end user makes...they will still complain about the consequences. If they don't get at least a hundred hours of on screen time before the battery dies then it's the fault of the OEM for not providing better battery management...and yet at the same time they complain that RAM management is too aggressive in an effort to stretch battery time in general. Then, if by some chance they get screen burn due to AOD it will be the fault of the OEM again...even though the end user chose to turn on the feature....so the best way to avoid the whole issue is to not provide the option at all. Of course I could be all wrong and what the previous poster said is correct???
No always on display and horizon light that lights up once. How does oneplus expect us to be informed of a missed notification without interacting with the phone? Telepathy?
Does anyone know if it's possible to turn off the ambient display but leave on the tap and raise options? I'd like to tap to be able to see the lock screen, which actually has useful information rather than pointless icons. Oneplus' implementation of the ambient display is an enormous failure, including on the Beta Android 10 I'm running. I'll admit to my own fault, when browsing the specs on this phone I saw ambient display and just assumed it was a proper AOD, otherwise I never would have bought this notificationless brick of annoyance.
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Most phone manufacturer such as Xiaomi, Samsung, Google, etc have their versions of AOD. Why do you think it's hard for OnePlus to implement it given the fact that it was available on previous phones such as the 5/5T.
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It's true that black screen pixels are totally off on AMOLED display. However, display driver and wherever else in connection to display will be using 200 to 300 mA even when all pixels are dead black, but phone/display turned on. Comparing to that, when display is white, it will consume 600 to 800mA. As a conclusion, constant drain of additional 250mA would result in a good hit on your battery life.
I think that the OP7P have some component that are easily overheated.
For me the power & volume buttons and the touch stop function whenever the cellular reception is poor, or when I tried to run 3rd party AOD.
Such phenomena happened with OP6 after long charge. So it seem to me that this phone is badly build or have problematic components and this prevent them implement AOD.