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Do Super AMOLED screens use battery power whilst displaying black?
I've heard this before and it makes sense considering the Nexus S was the first 2.3 phone (which has SAMOLED) and 2.3 is nearly all black.
So, if I were to change 99% of the things on the screen to black, would it technically not use as much power? Is it even worth making everything black or is the amount of power saved not very much?
Amoled display uses far less power to display black than to display color or white.
When the display is on it still uses battery. But you might notice some small battery savings if everything is black. I always use black wallpaper for this reason, plus I like how it looks.
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It uses less power but I don't find it's needed really.
I use about 4 hours of screen time, over an hour of calls, over 100 texts, half an hour of web browsing, angry birds, a bit of music, stream 20 mins or so of video online and have a live wallpaper running all day and I still make it to about 30 hours.
When a pixel is black on a SAMOLED display, it has essentially been turned off and there is no power consumption from it.
Maybe I will try it out though and see if I can push for 48 hours lol, I just really love how the colour pops on this screen so I can't imagine myself using black backgrounds much.
Google made Gingerbread keyboard, keypad and all the menus dark/black for this very reason.
So after 2 hours and 3 minutes...my battery is at 25% ...since starting to write this message it has dropped 3%. The display is taking up 80% of use. Screen brightness is about a centimeter from the far left side. Screen has been on about 90% of the time...however...after only 2 hours and now at 23%...I'm a little concerned. Any suggestions?
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Change your screen timeout to 30 seconds...
ITGuy11 said:
Change your screen timeout to 30 seconds...
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I like to have my screen on while at work. It would be easy to just turn it off ...I'm hoping for another workaround. I thought these screens were supposed to pull less power.
Grillrd said:
I like to have my screen on while at work. It would be easy to just turn it off ...I'm hoping for another workaround. I thought these screens were supposed to pull less power.
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I does pull less power but having it on all the time while at work will still drain your battery pretty quickly and why want you have this on all the time?
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I does pull less power but having it on all the time while at work will still drain your battery pretty quickly and why want you have this on all the time?
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It was more of a test to see how long it lasts with the screen on. I am a little concerned though because lets say I'm sitting in an airport or on a plane watching a movie(I travel for business). My old Droid X could get me through that. But I'm thinking that it wouldn't be an option if my battery is dieing after 2 1/2 hours with the screen on.
Coming from the droid x, kernels weren't an option so I don't know much about them. Would an enhanced kernel be able to help with this drain or am I SOL?
I'm having battery issues as well and hoping someone can help. I heard people are getting great battery life with this device, but so far mine is about the same as the thunderbolt was. My charge says its mostly the display taking up the battery life, but I've done all I can to help this. My screen time out is at 15 seconds and my brightness is at about 20%. I am running ADW EX but I wouldn't think that would cause this. Anyone have any other ideas?
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I'm having battery issues as well and hoping someone can help. I heard people are getting great battery life with this device, but so far mine is about the same as the thunderbolt was. My charge says its mostly the display taking up the battery life, but I've done all I can to help this. My screen time out is at 15 seconds and my brightness is at about 20%. I am running ADW EX but I wouldn't think that would cause this. Anyone have any other ideas?
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I am on the same boat as you. I thought rooting my phone and freezing apps would help with my battery but it seems to be about the same.
Never worry about battery drain anymore with this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096167
BOOM.
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Never worry about battery drain anymore with this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096167
BOOM.
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lol...yeah. I had an extended battery for my Droid X...but it didn't triple the size of my phone haha
The screen does use less power, but a significant amount of the power savings comes from displaying black, as black uses no power on the display, where it does for LCD displays. For me, the Display is usually responsible for 65-80% of the power drain, so your usage seems somewhat normal. Custom kernels can help with drain some, but what can be tweaked with a kernel won't help with the display draining the battery.
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The screen does use less power, but a significant amount of the power savings comes from displaying black, as black uses no power on the display, where it does for LCD displays. For me, the Display is usually responsible for 65-80% of the power drain, so your usage seems somewhat normal. Custom kernels can help with drain some, but what can be tweaked with a kernel won't help with the display draining the battery.
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Thank you for the explanation. Looks like I'll be using dark wallpapers.
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So besides reducing screen timeout to minimum, turning off background data, and cutting off literally every single connection (wifi, BT, 3g/4g, gps, everything) except 1x for calls and texts, removing bloat, are there ANY other measures one could take to enhance the stock battery life? I find myself talking on the phone for roughly 1hr per day but I do send nearly 500 text messages daily thus my screen is on a good portion of the time. I have to charge this phone twice per day at 2.5hrs per charge, it sits near an outlet for 5 hours a day heh... In fact even though I live in a 4g area I can't really use that feature because it beast's the battery down like a ravenous monster even with ALL other services disabled, not making calls, just texting and syncing email.
Task killers:
To me the task killing programs (ATK, ATM, etc) do actually kill background tasks and sometimes even services depending on your particular settings but since they just restart automatically does it not use MORE cpu time to re-run the damn things than just leaving them in the first place?
Launchers:
I have found no significant difference whatsoever between battery life under TouchWiz and LauncherPro. If anything its worse with LP because of the nifty graphical effects.
Kernels:
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere people were experiencing better life with the v4 voodoo kernel however I've noticed no difference at all there either with regard to battery life.
Running the phone with no services and charging it twice daily seems fairly extreme, eh? The extended battery is tempting, but one thing that attracted me to this device was its slim design. I don't care if its a little thicker and all but that ext battery is a freaking monster! Forget having a case with it too, at least for now.
Thoughts, suggestions?
hok
hokulus said:
I find myself talking on the phone for roughly 1hr per day but I do send nearly 500 text messages daily thus my screen is on a good portion of the time. I have to charge this phone twice per day at 2.5hrs per charge, it sits near an outlet for 5 hours a day heh...
Thoughts, suggestions?
hok
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500 text/day? Wow, you must be under 20 with thumbs/pointing fingers of steel! If your average text message takes 30 seconds, your screen is on and the screen/keyscan interrupts are running full bore about 4.5 hours a day just texting...when do you have time for Angry Birds?
Maybe a thin white text on black background for your screen theme? Just kidding (sort of), but I'm amazed at the talk/text times; gettin old, I guess!
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The screen does use less power, but a significant amount of the power savings comes from displaying black, as black uses no power on the display, where it does for LCD displays. For me, the Display is usually responsible for 65-80% of the power drain, so your usage seems somewhat normal. Custom kernels can help with drain some, but what can be tweaked with a kernel won't help with the display draining the battery.
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Seems like this explains while some report great battery and others terrible times...depends on what somebody considers "normal" to "light" usage and while some consider "texting" light usage if the screen is on black text on white background the whole day, there goes the battery stats. Same with screen on sitting doing nothing (maybe displaying time)...
Should "Battery Life" be normalized or adjusted something similar to "Time Between Charges" divided by ("Time Screen Display is On" times "percent White pixel counts")? Are there any battery stats / device stats / display stats that can help figuring out a "Battery Life Index"?
Sorry for the random thoughts....
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500 text/day? Wow, you must be under 20 with thumbs/pointing fingers of steel! If your average text message takes 30 seconds, your screen is on and the screen/keyscan interrupts are running full bore about 4.5 hours a day just texting...when do you have time for Angry Birds?
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Actually I've been keeping track and the screen is on 3-4 hours per day, plus the haptic feedback, interrupts, etc. Doesn't take me anywhere near 30s to send a text message, few seconds TOPS for most of them and I never said it was light usage haha. Just asked if anyone knows of other measures I did not list which I may employ to extend it more.
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The vooodoo kernel will help a bit as it uses a much more optimized file system so your phone will spend less time cache thrashing and reading/writing large downloads.
Essentially though it is down to how long your screen is on and how many accounts you have syncing in the background, also if you don't need full 1ghz for texting/calling smoothly then use setcpu with an ondemand or interactive type scheduler and set the max to like 700-800mhz...
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Seems like this explains while some report great battery and others terrible times...depends on what somebody considers "normal" to "light" usage and while some consider "texting" light usage if the screen is on black text on white background the whole day, there goes the battery stats. Same with screen on sitting doing nothing (maybe displaying time)...
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This....
BUT i will say that the battery life on this phone takes a great big dump on the TB`s battery, now thats a bad battery life, i would consider myslef a heavy user i make around and receive around 100 calls a day, around 100 emails and around 75-125 texts per 8 hour working day
i can get through my day putting my charge on charge ONCE for around 30 mins, my thunderbolt had to be plugged in most times, 2-3 hours max for total battery death ( 3 hours is extreme generous, was more like 2 hours ), i carried 3 batteries with my thunderbolt.
The charge for me is great, on a par with my old galaxy S for battery life, if only they coukd give me iPhone battery life, for as much as people dont like the iPhone, it sure does sip the juice
Myphone ie ed2 stock, no rooted.....YET im waiting for a stable CWM
i had normal wallpaper with that display uses was 53%
but now with live wall paper on it reduced to 42% in one hour ??
confused
which one uses more battery simple wallpaper or live wallpaper ??
symond said:
i had normal wallpaper with that display uses was 53%
but now with live wall paper on it reduced to 42% in one hour ??
confused
which one uses more battery simple wallpaper or live wallpaper ??
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live is using more CPU !
maybe your stock background is more "light" and the live darker so the Samoled can handle the darker much better
and you cant compare 2 wallpapers cause of that thing in the settings! you did not used the two wallpars the equal time! so maybe you woke your phone with live lesser then with normal wallpaer up !
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live is using more CPU !
maybe your stock background is more "light" and the live darker so the Samoled can handle the darker much better
and you cant compare 2 wallpapers cause of that thing in the settings! you did not used the two wallpars the equal time! so maybe you woke your phone with live lesser then with normal wallpaer up !
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That just means the screen is responsible for a smaller percentage of the total battery loss, compared to everything else. My screen often eats about 50% of the battery. That could either mean that the screen is a battery hog, or that everything else on the phone is crazy efficient. Turn airplane mode on, auto brightness off, and screen timeout to 30 minutes. Then check the actual battery drop with each wallpaper after the phone sits idle for a half hour.
AMOLED screen
I'm pretty sure its the colour. As you may be aware, with AMOLED technology, darker colours on screen use less battery because unlike LCDs, the light is only generated where needed instead of being generated everwhere and blocked out where its not need. It also makes for much better contrast. So try experimenting with darker wallpapers if you want to get more battery life. I think the difference would be quite small though.
I'm surprised that after so much time since android has been released, people still don't know how the built in battery monitor works. The percentage shown there equals 100% if you add all of them. That shows the total energy that the phone uses and displays which apps consume it and how much of it. If it displays 100% for the android OS (let's just say, that it would display only this), it means that the only thing which consumes energy on your phone is the OS, nothing else. That doesn't mean that the battery usage is 100%, it would killl the phone in a few seconds from full charge.
So if you had 53% for the display before applying the live wallpaper and 46% after, it means that there is a new process in the phone that eats voltage.
Those values show what uses the most energy from your current total usage, it doesn't mean that the display eats 46% of your battery. The live wallpaper probably has 15% or so, but it has a much bigger impact on the battery then 15%.
Hi,
just a question just on that topic:
I got the I9023 with SLCD and i want to optimize my battery life.
What is a good % of power usage for the display? Mine is 54% and i think it's quite high, is it normal?
Is there anything i can do? I just got the phone 2 days ago, so i'm using it more often than usally (well it's new, i'm not familiar with android.) but in a week or so, when i'm used to the phone, i want to get the maximum battery life out of it.
Data:
Android 2.3.6
I9023XXKF1
Kernel
2.6.35.7-gf5f63ef
[email protected] #1
Build Nr.
GRK39F
If anyone knows, how i can get a better battery life and overall performance, pls tell me, i really don't know where to start, i just downloaded the most common apps i needed, or wanted to use and used go launcher ex to get the touchwiz 4 theme on the phone, as i am more familiar with that (i had bada system before, hated it (well atleast i liked touchwiz )
Thanks a lot in advance guys!
I've heard in multiple ROM threads that you basically can only get four hours of screen display out of the captivate battery. The concept is that the screen is the single largest drain on our battery. I'm not sure that's the case, as the following screen caps show.
The first pair was run a couple days ago (wifi and data off). I charged the captivate to full, and turned the screen on permanently, set the screen filter program to 25% (darkens the screen - supposedly saves battery), ran "Desk Home", and went to sleep. I woke up, and the battery still was not drained. In the end, I was able to minimize usage until 11am or so, and took screen shots before the battery drained completely, and ended with over 12 hours of screen display on 80% of the battery (and some trivial usage).
To see if it was the screen filter program was the cause, I repeated this last night. This time, I didn't run desk home, but just turned the lit up phone upside down. Again, there was still significant battery when I woke up. I had to turn the screen off at 9am (as I was going to be away from the phone), and checked back and screen captured at 11am again. In the undimmed (but lowest brightness setting), I got 9 1/2 hours of display usage on somewhat less than 80% of the battery.
Conclusions I draw are that the screen filter program does extend the life of the battery a small amount - say, 7% per hour vs. 8% per hour with no external dimming program. In the past, I've had similar results playing games or reading ebooks (about 8-10% per hour usage). But it seems obvious that 4 hours of indoor (lowest brightness) screen display on my captivate should only be using a third of the power. Where is the rest going, and why doesn't the battery usage display show what is really drawing down the power?
I have my theories - all related to the modem functions: connecting to the data network, connecting to wifi, and connecting to cell phone towers. Perhaps when I have time to move some massive file across a good wifi connection, I'll see what kind of battery drainage that gives me.
This is on Continuum 6 RC1 with the JVQ modem and talon 0.3.1 - 1400, for reference.
Huh ? who comes up with stupid myths or why would you even believe that when review sites like gsmarena did a review and they tested media playback they got 7:25 hours of media playback with screen at 50%.
Alot of things can drain battery radio , cpu , screen.
Ya I have to agree. It is meaningless when like you did you turned brightness down l left screen on doing nothing. It in no way tests actual usage
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The 4 hour limit is one I've hit on ever rom since 2.1. It is not based on the phone/cpu sitting idle. It's based on actual usage (browsing the internet, playing games, texting, etc.). When you are actually using it the cpu clock ramps up and that along with the display being on is what eats the battery.
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Huh ? who comes up with stupid myths or why would you even believe that when review sites like gsmarena did a review and they tested media playback they got 7:25 hours of media playback with screen at 50%.
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Criminy. First of all, the "four hour limit" is mentioned in multiple ROM threads, as well as by nybmx in the post above. So I'm surprised that you are inferring this is new to you.
And if you try a little reading comprehension, you'll see that I specifically tested this out because I didn't believe it.
I hadn't heard of a 7 hour test. I've heard of some roms lasting 5 hours or so, running a single task. Which, in theory, could be consistent with a "four hour display life" and a days worth of other stuff - random calls, messages, etc.
Alot of things can drain battery radio , cpu , screen.
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Which, coincidentally, is how the conclusion I came up with at the end of my post. Except for the CPU. In normal phone usage (for me at least), the CPU isn't under constant strain. Does anyone have actual data about what the CPU is doing under typical tasks, like talking on the phone or listening to music? I have looked at CPU usage with the GPS test program in Froyo, and the cpu usage was always at 100 and 200 Mhz (i.e. not topped out at 1 Ghz, or more if OC'd).
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Ya I have to agree. It is meaningless when like you did you turned brightness down l left screen on doing nothing. It in no way tests actual usage
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It's called the scientific method. You test each variable separately. If you know how much power the display draws per hour of use, and how much the phone draws, and how much wifi draws, etc. you should be able to figure out what kind of use you will get in any scenario.
Do you know how much battery is used when GPS tracking alone? If you don't, then you won't know if you can track constantly during a 6 hour hike or whether that will drain the whole battery. I do, because I've tested it separately. If you gave me a scenario where you said I would track GPS while listening to music, and checking my position occasionally (say an hour of screen time) over the course of four hours, I'd be able to give you a pretty good idea of what my remaining battery will be, because I've tested those variables multiple times. On my phone, that scenario would drain the phone about 64%. [I imagine I'd give it a plus or minus of 8%].
For my money, that's "actual usage". If you are trying to figure out battery drain without controlling conditions, you'll never have accurate information.
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The 4 hour limit is one I've hit on ever rom since 2.1. It is not based on the phone/cpu sitting idle. It's based on actual usage (browsing the internet, playing games, texting, etc.). When you are actually using it the cpu clock ramps up and that along with the display being on is what eats the battery.
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First of all, thanks for confirming to ghost77 that such a limit is "known".
Reread my post. I think it's clear that I'm not saying that I think the 4-hour limit is based on an idle phone. The point I hope I'm making (explicitly in the 3rd to last paragraph) is that, even though "the cpu clock ramps up" and is used in whatever program you are using, the battery monitor is reporting that it is the display that is using the battery. It does not seem to credit the program (messaging, phone, internet, game, etc.) with the boost in CPU needed to do whatever you are doing.
After all, if we can all agree that the display uses 8-10% of the battery per hour, then having the display on while idle or when displaying a web page shouldn't make a difference to how much energy the display is using. In reality, if your phone is good for 5 hours of surfing, it's not the shiny display that has drained your battery, it is the transfer of data and rendering of the data as you manipulate the pages - all usages that should be credited to your internet program, not your display.
And if I've got you to agree that far, then it's a short step to reiterate what we've both said - it's the actual usage on the phone, not the display time, because the phones are more than capable of more than four hours of display. In which case, the four hour display limit is really unrelated to the display, but is a proxy for how much time you've spent using your phone for other stuff.
And then we can agree that you can get maybe eight hours of doing something simple like using a book reader program like Aldiko.
And then maybe you can see why I called the four hour limit a myth.
It's not a myth... Your taking a statement out of context. And wasting a lot of white space in the process.
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After all, if we can all agree that the display uses 8-10% of the battery per hour, then having the display on while idle or when displaying a web page shouldn't make a difference to how much energy the display is using.
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Actually it might, depending on the colors the screen has to show.
It's a well know fact that for OLED screens showing white uses up a lot more power then any other color. Most articles even say that showing white is the one area that LCD screens end up using less. Unless the screen actually contains white OLEDs (which ours does not, but whatever comes after the SuperAMOLED+ most likely will)
A second way that color matters is that for our SuperAMOLED screens the number and size of the green OLEDs is different then the blue/red. Without the specs on them no one can say just how much electricity is being used, but it is a factor.
Also, I recall reading that red LED/OLED use the least amount of electricity then any other color (given that all other details of comparison are equal) So there may very well be a difference between a screen that is using mainly red then blue, even tho they are the same in size and number.
Since the vast majority of web sites are a white background and black text, or a similar bright screen and dark txt, they are gonna use up a good deal of power (in comparison to any showing any other screens). This is also why there are no white, light gray or other such bright themes made for our phone.
I'm pretty sure that "Screen" includes the Display, multi-touch sensors, tilt sensors, GPS, compass, and all other sensors/input devices.
Hey, this is to anyone, but i saw Soccer_dad's graphs/ battery usage, and I noticed my battery stats dont reset when i plug in to charge and unplug. Even if i reboot my phone it still keeps past charges and discharges. Right now it says my phone has been on battery for 4 Days and 7 hours, when clearly Ive been charging every night. Is this a bug?
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Hey, this is to anyone, but i saw Soccer_dad's graphs/ battery usage, and I noticed my battery stats dont reset when i plug in to charge and unplug. Even if i reboot my phone it still keeps past charges and discharges. Right now it says my phone has been on battery for 4 Days and 7 hours, when clearly Ive been charging every night. Is this a bug?
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Looks like TasKilla is abusing it's launch on startup power. You should remove that app. No app should be using that much over a 4 day period unless you had it running for that long.
Yes it's a bug.
Four hours of use is not the same as four hours of screen time.
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Looks like TasKilla is abusing it's launch on startup power. You should remove that app. No app should be using that much over a 4 day period unless you had it running for that long.
Yes it's a bug.
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sent from a piece of plastic and glass It says CPU usage is 1 hour
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sent from a piece of plastic and glass It says CPU usage is 1 hour
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out of a total of 11 hours of processor usage. Just sayin... As a rule of thumb, good android software spends 99% of it's time dormant. That thing is using more processor then it should.
For all you guys who need the edge on battery, and dont need alot of screen brightness, like me, then try out this app on the play store called screen filter. (I am not affiliated with this in any way, I just like the way it works). What it does is apply a "film" over your screen going even lower than android screen brightness. Perfect for office setting (like me), at night when brightness is too much (laying in bed playing a game), or where bright lights might not be wanted (movie theater, work, etc...). I personally love it, I use it usually at 75% with the android brightness off, and everything is still visible, just that extra kick of brightness is gone. Sometimes I go down to 50%, but that gets me seeing my reflection just as well as the screen itself...
It also helps to keep out them creepers that try to look at your screen while sending private texts, pics, etc... Helps keep wandering eyes off of the fancy 4.8 super AMOLED display!
You can add widgets to custom brightness settings to suit yourself, I have 4 right on one of my screens that I use frequently!
I recommend this app to anyone and everyone!
It wont let me post links, but if you search "screen filter" it should be the first app. The logo has a white rectangle outlined in orange with a grey circle in the corner. Not too hard to find at all.
I'm almost positive that screen filter won't increase battery life. I think the phone basically "thinks" its still at a higher brightness than what you see, so it really doesn't improve battery life. I may be wrong though but I remember seeing that when I used it on my droid x.
kench33 said:
I'm almost positive that screen filter won't increase battery life. I think the phone basically "thinks" its still at a higher brightness than what you see, so it really doesn't improve battery life. I may be wrong though but I remember seeing that when I used it on my droid x.
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OLED pixels produce their own light (that is, without a separate backlight). Colors are made darker by dimming pixels. If the app makes what's being displayed on the screen darker, it should be helping battery life. The same reasoning applies to saving juice with dark backgrounds and inverted apps. It just only works on OLED screens and not backlit screen types.
Okay. I wasn't sure if I remembered correctly. Thanks!
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Lux Auto Brightness works a little better, in my opinion. It can go less than the screen's brightness without the filter look.
Hi guys,
A friends uses auto brightness, and only speaks ~ 20 minutes / day. A few browsing, reading e-mails, games, just got him at 2 days of usage. Not bad in my oppinion, but certainly they should have improved the battery.
To me it seems like the battery life is longer. My first week of use around 9 or so it would be in the red, but using it throughout the day, at 9 tonight it sits at 37%. Yes it will vary depending on use, but mine has been on battery 15h 30m and screen is only 18%. Cell standby is 30%, and chrome and facebook are each 11%. Everything else is quite small compared to those main apps used.
It seems to me it is helping, but it may not idk. I will continue to use it unless I run into a major issue with it.
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Lux Auto Brightness works a little better, in my opinion. It can go less than the screen's brightness without the filter look.
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+1 to Lux. Set your own brightness levels for various light levels. It can make the brightness very low, almost not visible.
TheLynxy said:
+1 to Lux. Set your own brightness levels for various light levels. It can make the brightness very low, almost not visible.
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Anyone have some good values for the automatic brightness settings? I just want to go dimmer across the board compared to stock but I'm confused with all the options so far lol
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just got him at 2 days of usage. Not bad in my oppinion, but certainly they should have improved the battery.
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Lol two days of usage and you think the battery needs to be "improved"??
How good does it have to be before people don't complain about it??
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Lol two days of usage and you think the battery needs to be "improved"??
How good does it have to be before people don't complain about it??
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I would be happy to get 2 days of usage... I probably could get 1 and a quarter, but I charge mine every night to be safe. Really varies on how much I use it during the day. Some nights I plug it in with 10% others with 50%... I know its not the best for the battery, but I just plan on getting a new one when this one takes a crap. I have a feeling this phone will be around long enough that the option will still be available
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but I charge mine every night to be safe. Really varies on how much I use it during the day. Some nights I plug it in with 10% others with 50%... I know its not the best for the battery
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That won't hurt the battery, I plug mine in every night also.
Thanks!
What I'd like
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Lol two days of usage and you think the battery needs to be "improved"??
How good does it have to be before people don't complain about it??
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What I would like is for my battery to last just *ONE* day. It doesn't do that. I don't mind charging it every night, but I'd prefer it last the day without me having to either charge it or switch batteries.
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nice find
nice find on this. i use inverted apps, and i like the way this works