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Getting One XL second hand

Hello to all,
My friend want to buy a one xl second hand and I want to know before getting the phone what are the particular things to this phone that need to be checked before
Also how can I check if the phone is not a fake or I don't know if even already exists a fake on the market, any guide will be welcome, I will meet today with the guy
Thanks,
Oh and I want to mention that he will use the phone on a GSM network and as the phone support it should be no problem
The guy mentioned that the phone was unlocked from his carrier, is there any problems that can occur here? let's say if I'm going to flash custom roms the phone get locked back? how can be unlocked?
thanks again

To tell you whether the phone will work on your friend's carrier, we would need to know what country you guys are in, and what version of the phone you are buying. If its a GSM system, the phone SMS, and WiFi should all work. But whether 3G and LTE will work, depends on whether your local carrier is compatible with the bands on the phone. Also, your carrier must offer MicroSIMs, as that is what the phone accepts. I believe any carrier that offers current versions of the iPhones or iPads should have MicroSIMs available.
Don't know if there are any counterfeits of the One X/XL that could really be passed off as the real thing. I think somebody posted a video of a phone that was supposed to be a clone of the One X, but it was a cheap piece of crap that could never be confused with the real thing (looked like cheap plastic, twice as thick, etc.). If you have seen/handled the phone in person, I doubt there would be a counterfeit that could be mistaken as real. The one piece polycarbonate body, gorgeous screen, and the general build quality are probably not going to be anywhere near matched by a cheap knockoff. If you haven't seen a One X/XL in person, least watch some videos of what the phone looks like.

Much appreciated your feedback, it is orange Romania, i don't know from where the phone is all he said it was unlocked to be able to use o any carrier on a service, I will check with my microsim if it works
Just a question, it is worth to change if the one xl is ok with my gnex?
Thanks again
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Based on this Romania uses GSM 900/1800 for Voice and EDGE data, and UMTS 2100 for 3G data. Those bands are extremely common, and used in most of Europe, and other parts of the world. Just about any version of the One X/XL should be compatible. You should be okay in this regard. But you may need to find your carrier's data network APN settings and enter them manually, in order for data to work. You should be able to find the APN settings for Orange Romania by Googling.
Never owned a GNexus, so can't personally say. The One XL has a better CPU, gorgeous screen, and beautiful build quality. I know folks on here have switched to the One X and love it, while others prefer the AOSP nature of the Nexus series, and the developer support. Whether its the right switch for you depends on your personal needs and preferences, budget, and how much a One XL would cost you.

Got the phone, seems good and my friend picked up, it is an international one x not one xl as I thought, phone is very nice
thanks for support

Work in the UK?

Hello,
I've been looking for a new 4G Smartphone, something like a Xiaomi, Meizu or a Huawei.
I think I've settled on the Mate 7 as I like the look of the fingerprint sensor and the style.
However, will it work in the UK? I get that it's mixed regarding the USA, but any chance of it working over here?

skezza said:
Hello,
I've been looking for a new 4G Smartphone, something like a Xiaomi, Meizu or a Huawei.
I think I've settled on the Mate 7 as I like the look of the fingerprint sensor and the style.
However, will it work in the UK? I get that it's mixed regarding the USA, but any chance of it working over here?
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EE, yes and perfect.

getmobilephone said:
EE, yes and perfect.
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Thanks for your reply.
I'm not on EE. I'm on Three, which has band 3 and 20.
According to the spec of this phone 3 is covered, but 20 isn't.
Will I be okay then?

skezza said:
Thanks for your reply.
I'm not on EE. I'm on Three, which has band 3 and 20.
According to the spec of this phone 3 is covered, but 20 isn't.
Will I be okay then?
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Yes, Three uses B3/20. FDD B3 is designed for outdoor coverage and B20 is a PLUS/BONUS for indoor (e.g., in a shop mart; similar as TDD B40/41 for underground coverage) coverage. You can check with THREE for the best answer.

getmobilephone said:
Yes, Three uses B3/20. FDD B3 is designed for outdoor coverage and B20 is a PLUS/BONUS for indoor (e.g., in a shop mart; similar as TDD B40/41 for underground coverage) coverage. You can check with THREE for the best answer.
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Fantastic, where did you get yours?

skezza said:
Fantastic, where did you get yours?
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We are seller....

getmobilephone said:
We are seller....
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Can you link me to yours please

skezza said:
Can you link me to yours please
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Just click the signature of ours. We have a coupon code for xda members.

There are a few English sellers who are selling them for about £530, for the 32GB model. Is this too much? Is this about right? Is it worth it?
Gahh, I can't decide between the 2GB and 3GB model. I tend to keep my phones for a long time (still running a Nexus 4).

skezza said:
There are a few English sellers who are selling them for about £530, for the 32GB model. Is this too much? Is this about right? Is it worth it?
Gahh, I can't decide between the 2GB and 3GB model. I tend to keep my phones for a long time (still running a Nexus 4).
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We recommend 3 GB RAM model if you are to keep the phone a a long time (e.g., >2 years).
With respect to the price, we have mentioned in your other thread and many of our posts. Trust us or your own judgement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/general/2gb-vs-3gb-t2937269/page2
Is it worth it? All depends on your needs, no one answers that but yourself.
Best of luck.

Tl10 working in uk no issues
I just got delivery of my GOLD Ascend mate 7 and guys, i am LOVING it. the fact that i can put my work SIM and my personal SIM in it is just brilliant. I am on EE as well. i do not have 4g as i believe its just a reap off by the networks, HSPA+ works well on both. It does come up with 4g when i turn on the phone for the first few seconds but i always just turn it off anyways. The finger print scanner is pure AMAZEBALLS.
Call quality is also very good. I noticed that when i had my Samsung Galaxy note 3, it would drop reception signal once or twice a day in the house, at times, it would loose signal altogether. This hasn't dropped a single signal bar at all. i tried to run down the battery all day yesterday but i gave up in the end. it only had like 45% battery when i took it out of the box. i did not charge it at all.
Also, i got like 7 OTA updates while i was playing with it. Mine is from China so it came with a load of Chinese bloat-ware. i was able to uninstall most of it though. installing Google play was a breeze just by searching for it from the APP centre on the phone. the only problem i had was syncing my contacts, as soon as i got the right googlesynscontact apk, all was good. i am still exploring the phone. it is SLIM for the size it is. i paid £530 for mine. this amount includes the shipping cost as well.
oh, i can change either SIM 1 or SIM 2 to 4g, 3g or 2g.. it all depends on the one i wish to use for data purpose. When you are using 2 SIMs at once, you cant use a Memory card as well. But if you are just using a Micro SIM only, then you can use the other nano slot with a memory card. Mine came unlocked so i did not feel the need to root it . if you guys in UK have any questions, please feel free to get in touch.

Gear S2 Classic 3G Model SM R735S

Has anyone purchased the 3G Classic Edition? I'm thinking of selling my existing Classic and purchasing the 3G as I miss the speaker function. I didn't even know there was a 3G version coming out in the Classic model?
http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/Samsung-Ge...-2-Screen-Protectors-/161924585048?nav=SEARCH

95SKY said:
Has anyone purchased the 3G Classic Edition? I'm thinking of selling my existing Classic and purchasing the 3G as I miss the speaker function. I didn't even know there was a 3G version coming out in the Classic model?
http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/Samsung-Ge...-2-Screen-Protectors-/161924585048?nav=SEARCH
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It seems they do exist but have only been released to the South Korean market. Not sure what that might mean for compatibility with sims from other regions around the world though...
http://www.samsung.com/sec/support/model/SM-R735SZKASKC

Yes it's in Korea only.

95SKY said:
Yes it's in Korea only.
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I want this so bad.... I have been holding off buying a watch in hopes that they would announce one for the US
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yes I just mine today, all excellent, very fast ship south Korea, just working out firmware up dates...very happy

95SKY said:
Yes it's in Korea only.
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G D it!!! Why?!?!?!?
Anyone have any idea why they did this? Fer gawds sake, I bought a 3G, because that functionality was important. I would have definitely paid MORE to get a classic 3G version.
WTF is wrong with the marketing people in these companies? Don't they want to make money? Since they're already making it, it's not like the cost to sell it here too is prohibitive.

dwallersv said:
G D it!!! Why?!?!?!?
Anyone have any idea why they did this? Fer gawds sake, I bought a 3G, because that functionality was important. I would have definitely paid MORE to get a classic 3G version.
WTF is wrong with the marketing people in these companies? Don't they want to make money? Since they're already making it, it's not like the cost to sell it here too is prohibitive.
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Samsung did this for the same reason companies do anything: profit. My guess is they figured they wouldn't sell enough in other markets to make enough money. They maybe wanted to focus marketing efforts rather than flood the market with devices like they have done before. Who knows exactly. What I do know is that Samsung would have released this to a wider market if they thought it would increase their net revenue.

sharps said:
yes I just mine today, all excellent, very fast ship south Korea, just working out firmware up dates...very happy
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Could you share picture or do a video ? to see the size of the watch ?
can you show us the speaker on the side ? ^^ you confirm it have built in speaker ? ^^
Thanks ^^

yes it has speaker and a lot more menus, a little thicker than the standard s2 classic, look on ebay for pics, go onto the sk Samsung web site for specs, bargain for an extra £40 ish pound from the uk non 3g one. felt robbed not having speaker etc!
my wife had got me the non 3g for Christmas from currys, straight back for a refund....

95SKY said:
Has anyone purchased the 3G Classic Edition? I'm thinking of selling my existing Classic and purchasing the 3G as I miss the speaker function. I didn't even know there was a 3G version coming out in the Classic model?
http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/Samsung-Ge...-2-Screen-Protectors-/161924585048?nav=SEARCH
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ToTo be honest the digitizer and LCD of the classic fit the sport it may be a sport with the digitizeand LCD of a classic I was going to mod mine that way

sharps said:
yes I just mine today, all excellent, very fast ship south Korea, just working out firmware up dates...very happy
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sharps said:
yes it has speaker and a lot more menus, a little thicker than the standard s2 classic, look on ebay for pics, go onto the sk Samsung web site for specs, bargain for an extra £40 ish pound from the uk non 3g one. felt robbed not having speaker etc!
my wife had got me the non 3g for Christmas from currys, straight back for a refund....
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Sorry but i failed to find REAL picture and REAL size of this model, i think real size is 44x47x13,4 but i can't know if it is true, and about the weight ??? some say 67g and other 55 ect, if somebody could shows us picture of the SM R735S versus S2 classic, it could be very usefull,
on ebay some spec say the SM R735 have the same size of the S2 classic !!!! lol if it is true i take it now ^^
i hope somebody will post picture ... Thanks.

I'm currently in South Korea and I think I've seen enough to answer the why question. New tech is really popular here even among older people; they probably sell more smart watches here than in the US so the cost of offering more models in that market just isn't appealing.

here, hope this helps, the manual for my 3g classic, as I said, I had the non 3g and now has the 3g, not much difference in size or anything. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...itiHwZXx6jlRi6CdVAd7QA&bvm=bv.111396085,d.ZWU

sharps said:
here, hope this helps, the manual for my 3g classic, as I said, I had the non 3g and now has the 3g, not much difference in size or anything. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...itiHwZXx6jlRi6CdVAd7QA&bvm=bv.111396085,d.ZWU
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could you post picture ? because i don't understand : you say no difference ? classic is 40x44x11 and classic 3G is 44x47x13.4 , so it make a big difference !!! ^^ ?? ( does it have a ''dead'' zone on the screen such as the plastic model ? )
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I founded a Video !!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiS9pGb083M
YES it have a dead zone around the screen, like the plastic model ... so bad ...

dead zone in 3G classic, like on the plastic model ... look my pic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiS9pGb083M is NOT a 3g model! as for dead spots??? all function's quite perfect, I don't find any issues. I also said NOT much difference...may post some pics later

sharps said:
here, hope this helps, the manual for my 3g classic, as I said, I had the non 3g and now has the 3g, not much difference in size or anything. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...itiHwZXx6jlRi6CdVAd7QA&bvm=bv.111396085,d.ZWU
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sharps said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiS9pGb083M is NOT a 3g model! as for dead spots??? all function's quite perfect, I don't find any issues. I also said NOT much difference...may post some pics later
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yes it is a 3G model, or anyway what it is, i don't have the same S2 classic than this guys ... there is some difference (dead zone and strap insertion is different) so if he don't have a 3G classic it means there is another model ? lol

sharps said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiS9pGb083M is NOT a 3g model! as for dead spots??? all function's quite perfect, I don't find any issues. I also said NOT much difference...may post some pics later
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Can you post a picture of your 3g classic then?
sharps said:
here, hope this helps, the manual for my 3g classic, as I said, I had the non 3g and now has the 3g, not much difference in size or anything. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...itiHwZXx6jlRi6CdVAd7QA&bvm=bv.111396085,d.ZWU
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I wonder how different/same the "guts" are from the 3G swatchlikeversion? Is it possible (please!) they are the same, and could just be swapped into a classic 3G case, simply having to hook up the digitizer and bezel (and probably display too)?
This could be a way to get a completely "compliant", functioning, US carrier 3G classic. Likely expensive, but hell, I've wasted so much on smartwatches already that dropping another US$100-150 to make this damn thing the way I want it is thinkable.
EDIT: Check out this this picture:
It certainly looks entirely possible the design may accomodate swapping parts. Heck, it may take nothing more than swapping the logic board between the two watches.
Then, the regular 3G version becomes a Korean unit; sell it on ebay.
Tempted to order one just to try this out here in the US, and if it doesn't work, and the 3G classic can't get on to Verizon (I would think it could, technically, but will Verizon allow it?), then I can just resell it on ebay and eat some loss.
This is probably net-net the most economical approach, rather than trying to but replacement parts.

dwallersv said:
I wonder how different/same the "guts" are from the 3G swatchlikeversion? Is it possible (please!) they are the same, and could just be swapped into a classic 3G case, simply having to hook up the digitizer and bezel (and probably display too)?
This could be a way to get a completely "compliant", functioning, US carrier 3G classic. Likely expensive, but hell, I've wasted so much on smartwatches already that dropping another US$100-150 to make this damn thing the way I want it is thinkable.
EDIT: Check out this this picture:
It certainly looks entirely possible the design may accomodate swapping parts. Heck, it may take nothing more than swapping the logic board between the two watches.
Then, the regular 3G version becomes a Korean unit; sell it on ebay.
Tempted to order one just to try this out here in the US, and if it doesn't work, and the 3G classic can't get on to Verizon (I would think it could, technically, but will Verizon allow it?), then I can just resell it on ebay and eat some loss.
This is probably net-net the most economical approach, rather than trying to but replacement parts.
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Let me know I have plans to but the digitizer and led and swapping them.... Lose my warranty but gain the watch I want,... 3g Platinum Classic gear s2

T-Mobile screws us

So it's now official, after five phone calls and finally speaking with third tier T-Mobile tech support, I was told that my area was recently refarmed and I can no longer get 3G service with the 1900 band effectively making my X2 a brick capable of nothing more than Edge. Furthermore, he indicated to me that this is the way things will go into the future and eventually, T-Mobile will support nothing but 4G LTE service (bring your own device.... But not really.)
So where to go from here? I had heard on another forum that AT&T is still supporting 3G over band 1900; but I don't know if they allow you to bring your own phone to the party and I also don't know how long it will be until they themselves eliminate 3G service. Apart from that, I guess my quest is to still find the largest phone I can that will support 4G LTE data in the United States while continuing to hope and pray that Huawei gives us the present of a 7 inch premium phablet with US bands.
As always, I remain open to any other solutions anyone might have or any information that I'm unaware of. Today is a truly sad day for a guy who truly loved his mediapad X2 : (

steveyal said:
So it's now official, after five phone calls and finally speaking with third tier T-Mobile tech support, I was told that my area was recently refarmed and I can no longer get 3G service with the 1900 band effectively making my X2 a brick capable of nothing more than Edge. Furthermore, he indicated to me that this is the way things will go into the future and eventually, T-Mobile will support nothing but 4G LTE service (bring your own device.... But not really.)
So where to go from here? I had heard on another forum that AT&T is still supporting 3G over band 1900; but I don't know if they allow you to bring your own phone to the party and I also don't know how long it will be until they themselves eliminate 3G service. Apart from that, I guess my quest is to still find the largest phone I can that will support 4G LTE data in the United States while continuing to hope and pray that Huawei gives us the present of a 7 inch premium phablet with US bands.
As always, I remain open to any other solutions anyone might have or any information that I'm unaware of. Today is a truly sad day for a guy who truly loved his mediapad X2 : (
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Sorry to hear that about TMO. I have been pushing to move away from ATT because the prices don't compare. We moved to the "new" ATT unlimited plan and 5 phones run us $330/mo vs the previous $410/mo on their "discount" family plan. I too am sold on the X2 and I can't let it go. I don't see anything else like it out there. I considered Huawei's new 8-inch tablet but without a handset it would be tough to use on a daily basis. ATT still supports the 3G speeds, at least in the Kansas City area, but who knows if that will change. Several times they have changed something on their network and I have had to search and find new APN settings. There are a few alternatives that I've seen but none that can compete with the X2. If you see anything else, let me know.
Thanks!
Jim

Yep, they did the same in my area about 4 months ago.

The whole thing is terribly frustrating. Clearly there is a market (albeit small) for a seven inch phone, so why are we ignored? Blu made one with US 4G LTE bands but i hear it sucks and only has 1 gig of ram causing it to freeze every time you open an app. Posh made a nice 6.4 that I had for a while; but it was a refurb and call quality was terrible. Plus, they are very hard to find. Checked out the Lenovo Phab 2 line (6.4"), but I'm not impressed at all and the new Samsung Note looks like a dildo.
I just ordered an old (new stock) Galaxy Mega which I owned a few years ago and loved. ...but compared to the X2, it's a dwarf (guess I've been spoiled.) So at this point, I really have no other option but to try ATT (who I detest) for a month pre-paid to see if i can go back to getting consistent HSPA on my beloved X2.
I sure hope someone at some point wakes up and gives us what we need...but I ain't holding my breath.

I'm eagerly anticipating the Huawei Honor Note 9 because I feel it's the only device that will be comparable to our beloved X2. I check for new info everyday but so far nothing but some uncertain leaks from Chinese websites. Does anyone have any *new* info? Better yet a way for us loyalists to get much deserved discount would be nice.
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!

E--Man said:
I'm eagerly anticipating the Huawei Honor Note 9 because I feel it's the only device that will be comparable to our beloved X2. I check for new info everyday but so far nothing but some uncertain leaks from Chinese websites. Does anyone have any *new* info? Better yet a way for us loyalists to get much deserved discount would be nice.
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Looks like the same deal as the X2 unless they release a US version:
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_note_9-8799.php

According to this page (careful !!):
https://www.gsmarc.com/huawei/honor-note-9/
the LTE bands are LTE 2100, LTE 800, LTE 1800, LTE 2600, LTE 900, LTE 2300, LTE 2500, (VoLTE)
not so bad (for my country, only 700Mhz is missed)
But I'm a bit worried about the price of the phone

Just ordered this through Amazon. Looks promising and US bands too!!!!!
https://www.amazon.com/iRULU-Smartp...desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=ya_aw_od_pi

steveyal said:
Just ordered this through Amazon. Looks promising and US bands too!!!!!
https://www.amazon.com/iRULU-Smartp...desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=ya_aw_od_pi
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Let me know how you like it. It doesn't have band 12 on T-Mobile which sucks. I may have picked one of those up if it did. If you buy it directly through iRulu and use coupon code G3DEAL50 you'll get it for $149.99.
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Not a bad phone... The Bad: But No led notification, GPS seems to jump around, No compass built in ... The Good: Fingerprint works great!, It has ATT 4G in the USA support, Battery life is good, ... If you get it rooted, please let me know how you did it....
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It could be my next toy to play around with as well. I loved the Mi Max. (which looks identical to the iRulu) I would give KingRoot a try to see if you can root it.

steveyal said:
Just ordered this through Amazon. Looks promising and US bands too!!!!!
https://www.amazon.com/iRULU-Smartp...desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=ya_aw_od_pi
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Not a bad phone... The Bad: But No led notification, GPS seems to jump around, No compass built in, inserting sim card/sdcard takes patience ... The Good: Nougat 7.0, Fingerprint scanner works great!, It has ATT 4G in the USA support, Battery life is good, Push notification works great ... If you get it rooted, please let me know how you did it....
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Let me know how you like it. It doesn't have band 12 on T-Mobile which sucks. I may have picked one of those up if it did. If you buy it directly through iRulu and use coupon code G3DEAL50 you'll get it for $149.99.
It could be my next toy to play around with as well. I loved the Mi Max. (which looks identical to the iRulu) I would give KingRoot a try to see if you can root it.
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I tried KingRoot, Kingoroot, One Click Root and others. Nothing has worked so far. I saw that 149.99 deal but like the fact I got it in 2 days with free shipping and no tax from Amazon Prime and can return it for a full refund with free shipping back to them no question asked...

Steamer2499 said:
Not a bad phone... The Bad: But No led notification, GPS seems to jump around, No compass built in, inserting sim card/sdcard takes patience ... The Good: Nougat 7.0, Fingerprint scanner works great!, It has ATT 4G in the USA support, Battery life is good, Push notification works great ... If you get it rooted, please let me know how you did it....
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I tried KingRoot, Kingoroot, One Click Root and others. Nothing has worked so far. I saw that 149.99 deal but like the fact I got it in 2 days with free shipping and no tax from Amazon Prime and can return it for a full refund with free shipping back to them no question asked...
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If those root options don't work then the phone most likely will never be rooted. I bought a ZTE Zmax Pro about 8 months back to use as a spare phone and that was never rooted so i'm sure the iRulu probably won't be.

steveyal said:
Just ordered this through Amazon. Looks promising and US bands too!!!!!
https://www.amazon.com/iRULU-Smartp...desktop?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=ya_aw_od_pi
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ajsmsg78 said:
Let me know how you like it. It doesn't have band 12 on T-Mobile which sucks. I may have picked one of those up if it did. If you buy it directly through iRulu and use coupon code G3DEAL50 you'll get it for $149.99.
It could be my next toy to play around with as well. I loved the Mi Max. (which looks identical to the iRulu) I would give KingRoot a try to see if you can root it.
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Thanks for posting this! It actually looks really good especially for the price, except for the fact that the battery is 4300mAh and I suspect Li-on not Li-Po. The price point is 10/10 and is simply amazing.
I wonder if a discount will be available on the upcoming Huawei Honor Note 9 as well... It is supposed to be released Dec 6 or 20
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!

E--Man said:
Thanks for posting this! It actually looks really good especially for the price, except for the fact that the battery is 4300mAh and I suspect Li-on not Li-Po. The price point is 10/10 and is simply amazing.
I wonder if a discount will be available on the upcoming Huawei Honor Note 9 as well... It is supposed to be released Dec 6 or 20
Please use the QUOTE feature when replying to me to get my attention. Thanks!
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The Huawei Honor Note 9 looks like the phone for me. Hope it's priced a lot lower than the Samsungs and Apple phones...

Steamer2499 said:
The Huawei Honor Note 9 looks like the phone for me. Hope it's priced a lot lower than the Samsungs and Apple phones...
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Looks like a great phone...but I simply can't soak that kinda money into a phone that can't do LTE.

Steamer2499 said:
Not a bad phone... The Bad: But No led notification, GPS seems to jump around, No compass built in, inserting sim card/sdcard takes patience ... The Good: Nougat 7.0, Fingerprint scanner works great!, It has ATT 4G in the USA support, Battery life is good, Push notification works great ... If you get it rooted, please let me know how you did it....
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I tried KingRoot, Kingoroot, One Click Root and others. Nothing has worked so far. I saw that 149.99 deal but like the fact I got it in 2 days with free shipping and no tax from Amazon Prime and can return it for a full refund with free shipping back to them no question asked...
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Never rooted a phone before...and not really sure why you would want to (probably best I don't know : )
The comment about the GPS scares me...and could potentially be deal breaker for me. But the rest of it seems livable. Not sure what led notification is either, but I figure if I don't know what it is, it probably won't matter to me that I don't have it. Otherwise, I went with Amazon because of their no hassle return. For me, that's worth every bit of 50 bucks on something I'm unsure of.

So after one day with the iRulu, my impressions are thus,
For me, this is in no way a replacement for my Media Pad X2. The build quality is just not there.
First, the good: this is the largest screen phone that I could find with the bands to receive 4G LTE in the United States. There are other larger ones such as the Posh L 700 and the 7 inch model made by Blu, but I don't think either of these phones can be taken seriously with their pitiful 1 GB of RAM.
Second, the phone works reasonably well. I was able to watch YouTube videos without difficulty and surf the web just fine. It was easy to load on applications and most things work as they should. Bluetooth was fine, easily connecting with both my car stereo and my laptop computer. In short, this is a decent low to middle tier phone; but it is NOT a Huawei.
The bad: As I was loading on applications, the phone did randomly restart; but this was only on one occasion, so I don't really consider it to be a big deal at this point.
Second: The GPS is as horrible as reported. I put it on for goofs navigating to work; and several times while driving down 95, the GPS had me somewhere in the middle of the woods. I don't think it would have caused me to miss turns; especially if I was using Google maps audio turn by turn directions; but generally speaking, it does not work as it is supposed to.
Third: at least for me, the phone seemed small. That half an inch screen size between this and the media pad really made a large difference to me. I guess I'm just used to my Huawei, and I like what I like. I also didn't find the phone aesthetically pleasing, which is not really a big deal to me; but it lacks the perfection in design of the MPX2.
Fourth and the biggie: is that I purchased this phone because it had 4G LTE bands in the United States. I used the thing all day long driving around the state of New Jersey; and not once did the phone indicate that I was receiving 4G LTE signal. As a matter of fact, I believe that I get a better signal on the AT&T network with the HSPA bands in the Huawei.
Unfortunately, for me, it's a bust. I will be returning this on Amazon and continue my quest for a mega screen phone that has LTE bands in the United States. One might ask why I am so hung up about LTE bands if I seem to be getting good Signal with the Huawei. It is because I have been told by people at AT&T that my days of enjoying my media pad are numbered; because they will soon be moving to a system similar to T-Mobile that will render the media pad useless. This so-called 5G technology will essentially render most manufacturer unlocked phones useless for some time until the technology catches up. Hopefully, it will take longer to accomplish this so-called feat of progress than it will take for some manufacturer to realize that there is a market for a high-end super screen phone in the United States.
Oh well.....

> I don't know if they allow you to bring your own phone
Yes, I use AT&T prepaid and brought my own phone. Also I'm paying $55/month with 10GB data. The service is of course throttled to what I believe is 15MBPs or something, but it's better service from the other resellers like Straight Talk that use the same towers.
The resellers appear to get low-tier service (I used to be on ST and have tried some others, with some terrible issues).

Question eSim on Google Fi in the US?

I have been reading that the US versions of the Z Flip 3 do not have eSim support. However Google Fi uses eSim on all of their other phones so I am wondering if they are getting their phones with that enabled.
I currently use my eSim and a physical sim card in my Pixel 3XL so this matters to me. They are not active at the same time but I can easily switch between them. I had assumed I could still do the same since all of the specs I found online listed an eSim. If anyone knows if this will be the case I would love to know. Otherwise I might need to cancel my pre-order.
Thanks,
Master K

If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.

I discovered that there are 2 IMEI numbers on the Flip 3 box. There were IMEI1 and IMEI2. This leaves me to believe the US version of the Flip 3 is physically identical to the International version. The difference is probably software.
I contacted Samsung’s costumer support and inquired about the eSIM on Flip 3. Customer Support said this is not a feature that US version is provisioned for. Not willing to give up, I pointed out that the box lists 2 IMEI numbers. I asked if this is something that could be fixed with a software. The customer support said Samsung would be sending out an update to fix this when ready. I am not sure if I was given an answer just to get rid of me. Since the international version has eSIM function so, this is not a technical issue.

The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.

entropism said:
The S20 also had 2 IMEIs on the box. Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.
Also, my Flip3 box only has 1 IMEI.
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My Flip 3 is from Google Fi and it was made in Vietnam.

OK. Like I said: Doesn't mean **** if they don't activate it.

Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
www.pcmag.com
The US models of the Galaxy S21 line still have eSIM disabled.
Unfortunately, it looks like Samsung has followed this plan again with the US unlocked models of its new Galaxy Z Flip 3 and Z Fold 3 phones. For now, at least, you'll be connecting these phones to one subscription at a time.
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Samsung's Z Flip 3, Z Fold 3 Are Both Single-SIM in the US
You may pay $1,800 for a phone, but the one thing you can never have is two SIM cards.
www.pcmag.com
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Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.

Markeee said:
Don't hold your breath waiting for Samsung to enable something they intentionally disabled.
No way I'd ever buy an $1800 phone with with dual and eSim disabled.
At this point I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 or Fold.
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The article is saying it takes forever, if at all. It includes the Fold. It also implies that the carrier plays a role in whether or not it gets enabled.
That aside, I'm not actually looking for it. I just like to be informed.

Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.

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Since I did not get any help from Samsung other than Samsung would be sending out an update to enable eSIM at a later date. I sent out an inquiry to Google Fi and request help. Following was the answer I got back:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. We totally understand that you want to use two phone numbers with Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3.
However, You can activate Fi services using the physical Fi SIM and can use the number of different carrier using E-SIM on the same device. Please make sure that you activate Fi services using physical SIM on Samsung Galaxy Z Flip3 and activate the other number using E-SIM from different carrier.
If you face any trouble, Please reply us back on the same email.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
Obviously, this is a bogus answer as there is no SIM card manager in the settings to enable me to add any eSIM regardless if it is Google Fi or from another carrier.
So, I emailed back and detailed the issue. I got another bogus answer. Below what was sent to me:-
“Thanks for contacting Google Fi support. I've checked it with my expert and you should be able to use E-SIM on Samsung Flip 3 with different carrier. If you're facing any trouble with activating services on E-SIM of different carrier. I would request you to get in touch with them and see what issue they are facing.
We are here 24/7 if anything else comes up.”
At this point, I am giving up. I need to use this Flip 3 for 30 days on Google Fi to get my $400.00 cell service credit. Due to COVID, I have not been travelling and have no plans until this is over. I do like the form factor of the Flip 3 but without eSIM is no for me. So, I am keeping this phone for the time being. I’ll pass this Flip 3 to my family member and get another phone with eSIM function. I will probably pick up either the Pixel 6 or the iPhone 13 that are going to be released.
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I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung

Anyone who's contacted Google for anything learns quickly not to contact Google for anything.

Markeee said:
I'd return it just to say **** you to Samsung
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Yes, this was an option but I traded in my Pixel 4XL already. My Pixel 4XL was quite good. I did not have any battery issue. The only thing was that it got really hot when I used Google Maps for navigation. Sometimes, it would even shut down on a hot day in the car while using navigation. Mine was in excellent shape and I got $350.00 back for trade in. Not too bad as I got that for half price during a Black Friday sale. I got $150.00 Samsung credit for getting this phone. This Flip 3 is actually cheap. Adding all the credits and refund on my Pixel 4XL. It only cost me slightly over $200.00 (including tax).

This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.

chompx2 said:
This is ridiculous I just found out that the newly released iPhone 13 would have Dual eSIM support for all markets, and Samsung would not provide eSIM support for the US market.
https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/09/14/iphone-13-and-iphone-13-pro-feature-dual-esim-support
I would be happy to just get a single eSIM function. That would save me the trouble to locate a dual SIM phone for travel. I have a Samsung S8+ DUOS which was sourced in UAE. It works with foreign SIMs but on Google Fi or T-Mobile it is not as good. I was dropping calls and calls sometimes go directly to my voice mail.
Since I am not travelling any time soon until the pandemic is over, I have time to wait for the new Pixel 6 series phones. Maybe, I’ll give the new iPhone 13 a try. As much as I like the Flip 3 for its form factor, I am going to get rid of it (most likely pass it to a family member). I will probably never go back to Samsung again until I see eSIM function on their phones.
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Nice meeting you. Take care.

Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.​
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
www.androidheadlines.com

Markeee said:
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.​
Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta Reveals Support for eSIM in the U.S.
The latest Samsung One UI 4.0 Beta has uncovered support for eSIM capabilities in the U.S. Although eSIM capabilities arrived with the Galaxy S21, S21+,
www.androidheadlines.com
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Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.

chompx2 said:
Thanks for the info. I do hope this would include the Flip 3. Maybe the reply I got from Samsung Customer Support is good. Samsung is getting eSIM support to Flip 3.
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You should be getting One UI 4.0 Beta soon let us know if it enables it on your Flip also I think it will
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/pp5euk
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/po25h5

mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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mindseye0803 said:
If you want esim capabilities in US then avoid Samsung phones. Only Apple and Google phones have esim capabilities supported by US carriers. Only exception to this, is Note 20 Ultra from Tmobile.
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Not true, note 20 ultra has esim.