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I'm trying to decide between the two of them. The both go for $200. I like the sd card on the galaxy.
The Moto G has better specs and build. It has USB otg so you can attach an SD card adapter that way if you must.
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I would take the 16gb no SDcard moto G over the Galaxy Express any day, The screen and performance are worth The loss of the sd card
In my opinion, it is a no brainer, The Moto G by far
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Moto G all the way. The SD card isn't worth the sacrifices.
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Dual 1.2 GHz Krait is a little on the weak side - and especially poor in terms of power consumption.
Of course on single threaded apps it will win - but a quad-A7 at 1.2 GHz is more than fast enough when you don't have Touchwizz bloat.
If it were purely a hardware spec comparison it would be close. But take into account build quality and software quality and the G wins hands-down... ESPECIALLY software quality. Even flagship Samsungs on AT&T have HORRIFIC software support (it's mostly AT&T's fault).
Honestly, ANY phone sold via AT&T themselves is one you should avoid at all costs.
You ask this question in the Moto G section? You already know the answer, then?
Moto G would be my phone of choice if your budget is 200 USD. Straight from Google, what other arguments do you need
It would be dumb if you ignored the night and day difference between these phones!
This phone is better than Samsung s3 in performance wise!
But don't get the 8 GB cause the available free space is mind blowingly low , spend a few extra cash and get the 16 GB.
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Thanks for reply's. I ordered the 16gb off amazon.
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Dual 1.2 GHz Krait is a little on the weak side - and especially poor in terms of power consumption.
Of course on single threaded apps it will win - but a quad-A7 at 1.2 GHz is more than fast enough when you don't have Touchwizz bloat.
If it were purely a hardware spec comparison it would be close. But take into account build quality and software quality and the G wins hands-down... ESPECIALLY software quality. Even flagship Samsungs on AT&T have HORRIFIC software support (it's mostly AT&T's fault).
Honestly, ANY phone sold via AT&T themselves is one you should avoid at all costs.
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I437. Not the international model.
The AT&T version uses the same MSM8960 Snapdragon (1.5ghz dual-core)/ Adreno 225 setup as the US Galaxy S III on a SAMOLED+ screen (read: RGB, not Pentile). I owned one for a couple of months and liked what it had to offer, but the screen suffered from that inevitable OLED blue subpixel burn-in. While that may not happen so quickly with other sets, it's annoyingly irreversible.
In any case, the Moto G is probably the better deal unless you absolutely have to have microSD expansion and/or LTE. I'm getting a G in two weeks.
Edit: Plus the device is just positively sexy with the vivid red flip cover.
Edit 2: My initial reasoning behind getting the I437 was audio quality (I need something that will draw out potential in my Yamaha EPH-100s, and Qualcomm's recent DACs aren't half bad), but I've decided to just get an iBasso DX50 for my hifi audio fix.
For those interested, the Moto G has decent audio measurements according to RMAA tests, but with major bass rolloff (it sinks below audible range far too soon, at frequencies I and my Yams could still have enjoyed).
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I437. Not the international model.
The AT&T version uses the same MSM8960 Snapdragon (1.5ghz dual-core)/ Adreno 225 setup as the US Galaxy S III on a SAMOLED+ screen (read: RGB, not Pentile). I owned one for a couple of months and liked what it had to offer, but the screen suffered from that inevitable OLED blue subpixel burn-in. While that may not happen so quickly with other sets, it's annoyingly irreversible.
In any case, the Moto G is probably the better deal unless you absolutely have to have microSD expansion and/or LTE. I'm getting a G in two weeks.
Edit: Plus the device is just positively sexy with the vivid red flip cover.
Edit 2: My initial reasoning behind getting the I437 was audio quality (I need something that will draw out potential in my Yamaha EPH-100s, and Qualcomm's recent DACs aren't half bad), but I've decided to just get an iBasso DX50 for my hifi audio fix.
For those interested, the Moto G has decent audio measurements according to RMAA tests, but with major bass rolloff (it sinks below audible range far too soon, at frequencies I and my Yams could still have enjoyed).
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Moto G, based on looking at the kernel source, might be using Motorola's own solution for a codec/amp setup instead of Qcom's WCD93xx - instead of the usual hackery of the codecs that most OEMs do, Moto's kernel source adds a whole bunch of new drivers.
Interesting. I'll have to have a nice sit down with mine when it reaches my hands.
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I've no doubt in my mind that Motorola will release a Moto G2 sometime late next year, because of the success of the Moto G.
But what improvement would you like to see, while still keeping the cost down.
I think 4G/LTE could easily be an option next year, but what else?
camera improvements maybe
Colour led, better camera, more RAM, (faster processor) are the main things for me.
All of the above with the same 720p screen and 32GB at $200
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2gb RAM or at least 1.5gb, a better processor, maybe The X8 chip... A better camera (8mpx), 4G
But if you ask me ill take the better CPU/GPU/RAM then a better camera or a 1080p screen so they can keep the $200 price tag, 720p its more than enough for smartphones as long as the screen has a good quality... 1080p its already way too much and nos LG wants a 2k screen lol
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To keep the cost of the device the same i would like to see a few minor improvements to the current G like 4G, 1.5 to 2gb ram, better camera megapixels don't matter.
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My guesses:
RGB Led
8mp Camera
Either an older Snap 600/S4 Pro (think Nexus 7) or a new, yet unannounced Snap 400 with maybe a new low end GPU (Adreno 307, if you will)
1GB RAM, maybe faster DDR3L
8 and 16GB
Slightly bigger battery, maybe 2.2Ah
Tweaked 720p IPS display
Tweaked design - slightly thinner, slightly lighter
Expecting more than this is setting yourself up for disappointment, IMO.
If I were Moto, I'd keep the first gen G and X around, drop the G to $99 or $79, give the G2 LTE and put it starting at $179, drop the X to $279 and release the new X as a true flagship. You get all the price ranges covered with nice phones and, if kept with the same design and basic layout, without much need for retooling.
Lets just enjoy this awesome phone and worry about the 2nd version later...
Maybe X4 or X6 chip? (Since low end processors dont come with quad core GPU I'm thinking)
Gyrosensor & More Space
4.5 or 4.7" 720p display no need to change this I think.
4G/LTE should be cheap enough to have on midrange phones in 2014
Better camera 8mp BIS Sony Sensor
1080p video, the current snapdragon 400 has 1080p support but wasn't implemented in the Moto G for some reason, maybe because the lack of space with the 8GB version.
New snapdragon processor maybe the 405 clocked at 1.5Ghz with better gpu.
2GB of ram will trickle down to midrange phones in 2014, as the top end smartphones move onto 3GB & 4GB.
Slimmer design.
Colour options.
RGB notification led.
8GB storage dropped in favor of both 16GB & 32GB, should be cheap enough in 2014.
If all the above was to be the case for the Moto G2 for next year, it probably be even bigger seller than the current Moto G is now.
The 4G will depende con how things go in the world in the next months, A LOT of countries doesnt even have 4G un the works, and some of them are just starting to embrace it
I dont think a X8 CPU its really out of the realm of possibilities, obviously not The same one as the MotoX one, but a low-end one...
Bigger storage should be a thing, 16/32gb.
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2gb RAM or at least 1.5gb, a better processor, maybe The X8 chip... A better camera (8mpx), 4G
But if you ask me ill take the better CPU/GPU/RAM then a better camera or a 1080p screen so they can keep the $200 price tag, 720p its more than enough for smartphones as long as the screen has a good quality... 1080p its already way too much and nos LG wants a 2k screen lol
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ok, so you basically want the g2 to be a moto X LOL.. so no, this won't happen.
a 1080p screen IS a 2k screen. the 'k' monika refers to the horizontal not vertical resolution. hence 1080, by 1920 (2k). 720 is about 1.2k.
The truth is, the margin on the Moto G is about 20%, this is so much lower than any other phone manufacturer that any improvements will be added basically at 'cost' therefore, any meaningful spec upgrade leads to a big price price rise (relatively speaking).
I would like the same phone, a year newer CPU and GPU, slightly bigger battery, 4G and improved build quality, 10% price rise. This is at least doable.
Better camera/video
Gyroscope
32 GB version
Same price 180/200/240 (8/16/32)
Sligthly more rubberized shell for better grip
Keep the rest, it's already a great phone.
For me all I'd like to see for a 'G2' is:
4.7" 720p screen
LTE
8MP Camera
1.5 or 2GB RAM
The Moto G2 will be inspired by Motorola's next year flagship, but weaker.
I could see the Moto G2 with a quad core chip, a better gpu, and 1080p screen, LTE, 4.7" screen, 2gb ram, and MAYBE 8MP camera
moto G was created to be a cheap phone with mid-highend specs. You guys want moto x specs on a 200$ phone? Forget about it. Go and buy a moto x
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moto G was created to be a cheap phone with mid-highend specs. You guys want moto x specs on a 200$ phone? Forget about it. Go and buy a moto x
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To be fair 5 years ago a low end phone was considered to be 256 MB of ram and a 600 MHz single core processor with a 3 inch screen and would cost the same as the moto g does today. As time goes on technology standards go up.
But I do agree some people in this thread are asking for way too much even for today's standards. If you want modern flagship specs get a modern flagship phone.
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ok, so you basically want the g2 to be a moto X LOL.. so no, this won't happen.
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I would not be surprised to see next year's Moto G to be pretty close to the current Moto X. Maybe they change a few components to lower the price but in a year's time, the cost of most of those components will probably be down as well.
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I would not be surprised to see next year's Moto G to be pretty close to the current Moto X. Maybe they change a few components to lower the price but in a year's time, the cost of most of those components will probably be down as well.
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Why not just buy the moto x when the moto x2 comes out then? I guarantee it will drop in price.
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Come wif Corning Gorilla Glass 3 on display screen however the back lens camera dint use the same material as the display screen which is not resistance to screctch.
Speak about protection motorola give an nano coating finish to moto g to the component, inside and outer screen glass to make moto g watersplash resistance but don't jump into pool wif ur phone.
Moto G is one of the first handsets to be updated to Google's latest software - Android 4.4.2 KitKat.
Software update on this phone was the Beauty and the Beast is their camera but still u can enjoy an good outdoor picture but never the indoor.
Feel free to share wht u know bout motor g ??
Moto G is the last phone from Motorola & Google
and we are the lucky ones
And we will Never be seeing another awesomely priced awesomely specced phone from Moto
When with Moto g they had all this patents( so they don't have to license stuff) and lotsa money for r &d ( they lost a billion dollars even after selling so many phones)
So savour the Moto g ..the last affordable smartphone which get things right
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- It's fast! My previous phone was a Samsung galaxy ace duos CDMA so understandably this feels very quick in comparison. But yeah still even then its really faster than most phones available in this process segment.
- The phone doesn't come with a lot of bloatware like so many other phones on the market which again is a massive bonus.
- Beautiful HD screen (4.5 inches with a resolution of 720 x 1280, resulting in a pixel density of 326 pixels per inch)
- Android 4.3 with an upgrade to 4.4.2 already!
- Long lasting battery life
- Easy to customise (Regarding both the exterior of the phone with the different coloured shells and the interior with the
software available).
- Low price for the specs available (1gb of ram with a Snapdragon 400 quad-core processor clocked at 1.2 GHz).
- Well built. It doesn't feel cheap like those plastic body Samsung phones.
- Slow motion video feature is really nice.
-Its loud!
- Doesn't lag a bit. Even with high end games like Asphalt 8 the phone runs butter smooth .
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Is the Moto G faster and more fluid in animations and transitions than the SGS3?
I'm really tired of having lag and a slow phone and am looking for a nice and fast phone with stock android preferably.
I don't know if the Moto G is really much faster or if it also has lag occasionally.
Do you guys think it's a good choice to go from the SGS3 to the Moto G 4G?
Anyone that has done it can comment?
Is battery life also the same or better?
Thanks!
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Is the Moto G faster and more fluid in animations and transitions than the SGS3?
I'm really tired of having lag and a slow phone and am looking for a nice and fast phone with stock android preferably.
I don't know if the Moto G is really much faster or if it also has lag occasionally.
Do you guys think it's a good choice to go from the SGS3 to the Moto G 4G?
Anyone that has done it can comment?
Is battery life also the same or better?
Thanks!
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Most of my friends that had the S3 complained about lag, I've shown them my Moto G and they were wowed with it. Specs-wise the Moto G is a good upgrade from the S3 since it's a newer processor and is built for a newer Android OS. It should have equal to or better battery life since the battery is a little less capacity but it has a more efficient processor and OS. The Moto G does get laggy when you have too many apps open, Facebook has chugged a few times and loading times in games can take a while due to having only 1GB of memory. I use OTG storage via a microUSB reader and am able to carry most of my media on it which frees up the internal 8GB for just apps and other misc stuff.
But seriously for the price it's definitely hard to beat.
Sensamic said:
Is the Moto G faster and more fluid in animations and transitions than the SGS3?
I'm really tired of having lag and a slow phone and am looking for a nice and fast phone with stock android preferably.
I don't know if the Moto G is really much faster or if it also has lag occasionally.
Do you guys think it's a good choice to go from the SGS3 to the Moto G 4G?
Anyone that has done it can comment?
Is battery life also the same or better?
Thanks!
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Definitely a good upgrade over the SGS3. Lag is nearly non-existent on the Moro G. The SoC has faster and way more power-efficient cores.
Another notable thing is that Moto G doesn't get hot even if you stress it with some heavy synthetic, SGS3 does get hot.
Overall you'll be surprised what this relatively cheap phone can.You also get a microsd card slot on the 4G model, just don't buy some exotic cards, but something class 6 kingston or samsung.
I broke my S3 and moved to this. It's at least a comparable phone, if not better. Though if you still have the S3, I highly recommend Task650's ROM. Fantastic builds. I was on an early release of his KK ROM and it was flawless, I'm sure it's rock solid these days.
Better performance, better battery life, water resistant, better looks, etc
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Better performance, better battery life, water resistant, better looks, etc
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I have an S4 on Verizon and picked up a Moto G through trading various items for it. I plan to sell it, but I've honestly been slightly disappointed with my S4 since I've used the G. I wouldn't be able to use a phone without a swappable battery and a microSD card slot, though.
I had a Galaxy S3 for two years. it went faulty so I got the Moto G 4G.
My partner still has the S3 so I can constantly compare it to the Moto G.
Moto G is faster, scrolling / general use is smoother and I'm definitely seeing better battery life (especially on standby) - and this was compared to a custom rom on the S3.
Very happy with the change.
So I am surprised no has caught this yet. But the 2015 with far lesser hardware than that of the idol 3 is getting very high praises. The one main thing that is really standing out to me is the performance reviews. The snapdragon 400 with 1gb of ram and just how smooth this phone runs. I would think this would be a major jab at Alcatel on how unoptimized their software on the idol 3 is. I think this is also a testament that our phone is very capable of a butter smooth experience without any lag or stutters what's so ever if this can be done on the moto g.
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So I am surprised no has caught this yet. But the 2015 with far lesser hardware than that of the idol 3 is getting very high praises. The one main thing that is really standing out to me is the performance reviews. The snapdragon 400 with 1gb of ram and just how smooth this phone runs. I would think this would be a major jab at Alcatel on how unoptimized their software on the idol 3 is. I think this is also a testament that our phone is very capable of a butter smooth experience without any lag or stutters what's so ever if this can be done on the moto g.
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So for $50 less I give up 1/2 the megapixels on the front and rear camera's...1/2 the internal storage, 1/3rd the screen resolution (assuming going from 1080p to 720p is only 1/3rd) drop Lollipop back down to Kitkat (based on http://www.bestbuy.com/site/motorol...-u-s-version-black/9055007.p?id=1219387046337) and I'm sure there's more....no thanks...the time of the idol 3 is NOW. It's been rooted..has TWRP....has xposed framework working and source has just been released. Or were you trying to compare the idol 3 4.7? You didn't specify.
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So for $50 less I give up 1/2 the megapixels on the front and rear camera's...1/2 the internal storage, 1/3rd the screen resolution (assuming going from 1080p to 720p is only 1/3rd) drop Lollipop back down to Kitkat (based on http://www.bestbuy.com/site/motorol...-u-s-version-black/9055007.p?id=1219387046337) and I'm sure there's more....no thanks...the time of the idol 3 is NOW. It's been rooted..has TWRP....has xposed framework working and source has just been released. Or were you trying to compare the idol 3 4.7? You didn't specify.
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Nobody is talking about the second gen. This is the 3rd gen
http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/moto-g-2015-1300373/review
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Nobody is talking about the second gen. This is the 3rd gen
http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/moto-g-2015-1300373/review
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Ok..here's a good side by side from phonedog...with the exception of battery life the idol 3 seemed to be the winner but maybe you'll lean the other way. I know I'm not giving up my dual speakers, 1080p screen and reversible feature which works really well in the car to charge it while sitting in a poor man's dock (the cup holder). Sounds like you'd have to bump up to the 2gb/16gb model for the closest match and that's gonna be $220 vs $200 (currently the idol is priced at $250 but it was when I purchased it as well and they put it on sale for 1 day in July so I was able to submit a price protection claim with my credit card bringing it down to $200...I'm sure similar specials will pop up since the preorder price was also $199)
http://www.phonedog.com/videos/moto-g-3rd-gen-vs-onetouch-idol-3-best-budget-smartphones
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Nobody is talking about the second gen. This is the 3rd gen
http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/moto-g-2015-1300373/review
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I'm pretty interested in the Canadian Moto X Play XT1563
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 28)
famewolf said:
Ok..here's a good side by side from phonedog...with the exception of battery life the idol 3 seemed to be the winner but maybe you'll lean the other way. I know I'm not giving up my dual speakers, 1080p screen and reversible feature which works really well in the car to charge it while sitting in a poor man's dock (the cup holder). Sounds like you'd have to bump up to the 2gb/16gb model for the closest match and that's gonna be $220 vs $200 (currently the idol is priced at $250 but it was when I purchased it as well and they put it on sale for 1 day in July so I was able to submit a price protection claim with my credit card bringing it down to $200...I'm sure similar specials will pop up since the preorder price was also $199)
http://www.phonedog.com/videos/moto-g-3rd-gen-vs-onetouch-idol-3-best-budget-smartphones
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It's very confusing when they pull all this 2nd gen, 3rd gen or Nexus 5 2015 vs the old Nexus 5 stuff because you are never sure which one someone is talking about..I didn't even know thr 3rd gen moto g was out.
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It's very confusing when they pull all this 2nd gen, 3rd gen or Nexus 5 2015 vs the old Nexus 5 stuff because you are never sure which one someone is talking about..I didn't even know thr 3rd gen moto g was out.
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Ya. I should have articulated my point better. And my point was this. The 3rd gen moto (with far inferior) hardware than the idol is getting praises left and right and many are voting it asbthe best budget phone for the money. And one of the main points they bring up is just how fluid and snappy the new moto g is with less ram and smaller processor than that of the idol 3. So with that logic the idol 3 should be outperforming the moto g with responsiveness and snappyness and zero lag. But its not. I was hoping that Alcatel might take note of the new kid in the block. Get concerned about potential loss sales to the moto g and optimize the idol 3 to be a great performer with zero lag the way it should be.
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Ya. I should have articulated my point better. And my point was this. The 3rd gen moto (with far inferior) hardware than the idol is getting praises left and right and many are voting it asbthe best budget phone for the money. And one of the main points they bring up is just how fluid and snappy the new moto g is with less ram and smaller processor than that of the idol 3. So with that logic the idol 3 should be outperforming the moto g with responsiveness and snappyness and zero lag. But its not. I was hoping that Alcatel might take note of the new kid in the block. Get concerned about potential loss sales to the moto g and optimize the idol 3 to be a great performer with zero lag the way it should be.
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Comparing apples to apples. The Idol 3 4.7 is better than the Moto G 2015. They both have snapdragon 410 but the G just having a higher clock speed at 1.4 vs 1.2. I returned my Moto G when I got the Idol 3 4.7. It's just a better phone for me. As far as lag, I had the Idol 5.5 when it first came out before some of the updates and I remember there was some lag especially when clearing all recent apps. The Idol 3 4.7 does not have that lag that I experienced with the bigger Idol. The 410 is a fantastic processor especially for pushing out only 720p. More YouTube reviewers should do a comparison between the Idol 4.7 and the Moto G and not the Idol 5.5. Closer in specs and price point.
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Comparing apples to apples. The Idol 3 4.7 is better than the Moto G 2015. They both have snapdragon 410 but the G just having a higher clock speed at 1.4 vs 1.2. I returned my Moto G when I got the Idol 3 4.7. It's just a better phone for me. As far as lag, I had the Idol 5.5 when it first came out before some of the updates and I remember there was some lag especially when clearing all recent apps. The Idol 3 4.7 does not have that lag that I experienced with the bigger Idol. The 410 is a fantastic processor especially for pushing out only 720p. More YouTube reviewers should do a comparison between the Idol 4.7 and the Moto G and not the Idol 5.5. Closer in specs and price point.
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You pretty much validated my point though on how the beefier heavier specd idol 3 5.5 should run flawless and as smooth as butter when lesser hardware clearly can.
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Ya. I should have articulated my point better. And my point was this. The 3rd gen moto (with far inferior) hardware than the idol is getting praises left and right and many are voting it asbthe best budget phone for the money. And one of the main points they bring up is just how fluid and snappy the new moto g is with less ram and smaller processor than that of the idol 3. So with that logic the idol 3 should be outperforming the moto g with responsiveness and snappyness and zero lag. But its not. I was hoping that Alcatel might take note of the new kid in the block. Get concerned about potential loss sales to the moto g and optimize the idol 3 to be a great performer with zero lag the way it should be.
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Well one good point is the 5.0.x series of lollipop is KNOWN to be laggy...that was one of the main improvements to 5.1...with the source released we can perhaps look at Cyanogenmod in our future and eliminate alot of the lag we are dealing with now along with some optimized kernels. I think after some custom rom's come out you'll end up much happier with the idol 3 overall.
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Well one good point is the 5.0.x series of lollipop is KNOWN to be laggy...that was one of the main improvements to 5.1...with the source released we can perhaps look at Cyanogenmod in our future and eliminate alot of the lag we are dealing with now along with some optimized kernels. I think after some custom rom's come out you'll end up much happier with the idol 3 overall.
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Yup the 5.0 builds are very buggy and laggy but its interesting that the 4.7 inch idol with lower processor still runs smoother. I don't think we as consumers should have to root and go through all of those hoops just to have a well performing device based on the hardware running it. And from owning the oneplus one and running cm as my daily driver for quite sometime I would personally never run it again. Not only do I not support Steve and his initiatives and his company but often times cm introudced more bug than it solved issues. So that's a no go for me. I am simply asking Alcatel to optimize their flagship device the way it should be. But who knows maybe it will happen when we get the 5.1.1 update.
Right now I swap between my zenfone 2, idol 3 and oneplus one. The only thing keeping me from using my idol 3 as my daily.driver is the lag. And it's very noticeable when jumping between phones.
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I had decided to wait for the moto G 3rd gen before upgrading from the 2nd gen however...
Amazon day sale...
That was literally an insane price. Too good to pass off and I went for the upgrade.
Comparing it to the 3rd gen.. I'm not at all regretting getting the Alcatel. Gorilla Glass alternative is good, battery life is significantly better than the moto G, display resolution is a nice plus.
Water proofing just isn't a feature that makes or breaks my decision.
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Yup the 5.0 builds are very buggy and laggy but its interesting that the 4.7 inch idol with lower processor still runs smoother. I don't think we as consumers should have to root and go through all of those hoops just to have a well performing device based on the hardware running it. And from owning the oneplus one and running cm as my daily driver for quite sometime I would personally never run it again. Not only do I not support Steve and his initiatives and his company but often times cm introudced more bug than it solved issues. So that's a no go for me. I am simply asking Alcatel to optimize their flagship device the way it should be. But who knows maybe it will happen when we get the 5.1.1 update.
Right now I swap between my zenfone 2, idol 3 and oneplus one. The only thing keeping me from using my idol 3 as my daily.driver is the lag. And it's very noticeable when jumping between phones.
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I agree with the point about consumers shouldn't need to depend on rooting, custom kernels and ROMS. Even if I indulge in all of the above. If that's what it takes to make a phone usable, then this phone and manufacturer will fade back into oblivion. And I also haven't found custom ROMs to be a panacea. For all the talk about being "buttery smooth," "rock solid" and such, it isn't always that way. I've had some prominent ROMs that plainly gave me more problems than stock Android. But I like to experiment and I like the customization options that the ROMs provide. And I really like being rid of all the Google bloat.
I waited awhile with my Nexus 4 before upgrading to Lollipop because I wanted to keep running Xposed and it wasn't available on Lollipop for awhile. But after I did, I almost reverted because of the poor performance with 5.0x. So it's disappointing to have to be running 5.02 on the Idol 3 on the eve of the release of Android M.
I'm not holding my breath waiting for many ROMs, kernels and such on this phone. Is there a big enough community who's going to use them that people will bother to build them? I hope the answer is yes, but I'm not so sure.
All that said, I like this phone more than I thought I would. I'm having occasional laggy and erratic performance, but most of the time, it's fine, a bit better than I might have expected. And I love the light weight and the display. The current crop of flagships tend to be 30 grams heavier, a very noticeable difference. And the colors look better to me on this phone than they do on some of the pricier ones with whites that aren't white or over-saturation. Some of that's adjustable with custom kernels, but not all of it. The Nexus 6 I use sometimes, for all its many strengths, is guilty of both color problems and being uncomfortably heavy by comparison.
Ya I would have to agree with you an all of the points you highlighted. This is a fantastic device on so many levels. Just wish the damn thing didn't lag. The biggest lag issue I had was with typing. But installing the stick Google keyboard from the play store seems to have really improved the typing experience over the stock aosp keyboard that comes with the phone.
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When you guys get a sec check the performance review of the mi4 running the exact same chipset. Notice how it scores significantly hire in benchmarks then our phone and the ui does not lag or stutter what's so ever.
https://youtu.be/cCXiQQI7lpQ
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Thought you might be interested to know the Moto G's camera has been ported over to the Idol 3 and runs just fine....I posted a thread in the Idol3 apps and games section with some details. The camera is very VERY nice.
A lot of these people are comparing the lowest tier Moto G to whatever else that is available. On Alcatel's side, that would mean that you would compare the 4.7 inch model to the Moto G - and the only thing on the specs side on the Alcatel model is NFC - otherwise they are essentially the same phone - and the Moto G is waterproof - runs a later version of Android - and is from Motorola . So it does make for a compelling choice. When you compare the $220 model to the $250 Alcatel model, then the spec differences are wider. But for $180 , the Moto G is not a bad phone. If I did not have the option to buy the 5.5 inch for $200 , and the Moto G 2015 would have been around, I do not think I would have spent $180 to go with the Alcatel.
cas8180 said:
When you guys get a sec check the performance review of the mi4 running the exact same chipset. Notice how it scores significantly hire in benchmarks then our phone and the ui does not lag or stutter what's so ever.
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The Mi4i runs the same chipset and Geekyranjit says it is a laggy POS after update, before update it was overheating POS. There is something fundamentally wrong with the 615 chipset same as the 810. it just wasn't a good year to buy Qualcomm.
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The Mi4i runs the same chipset and Geekyranjit says it is a laggy POS after update, before update it was overheating POS. There is something fundamentally wrong with the 615 chipset same as the 810. it just wasn't a good year to buy Qualcomm.
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Must not be as all the new zenfone 2 models are running this same chipset.
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Must not be as all the new zenfone 2 models are running this same chipset.
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Actually... none of the released Zen2 come with SD615.