Looks like Ping Pong doesn't work anymore, so I'm curious if there are *any* root methods working with the latest Verizon S6 software versions. Thanks!
spinaldex said:
Looks like Ping Pong doesn't work anymore, so I'm curious if there are *any* root methods working with the latest Verizon S6 software versions. Thanks!
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Nope. Dev on the phone is dead. Wish I never bough it.
How dead?
As a door nail?
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Forums for S6 and edge are about as alive as the OG droid forum
Damn I'm kind of sad I got this phone now. I have a few days left before I can't return it anymore. Only other phone I really liked was the Note 5 but I think it is also in the same boat. I really hate Verizon's locked bootload bullcrap.
Is anyone working on a root for 5.1.1? Is it going to happen? I just ordered an S6 through Verizon not knowing all of the listed issues and I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it.
ZBrink said:
Is anyone working on a root for 5.1.1? Is it going to happen? I just ordered an S6 through Verizon not knowing all of the listed issues and I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep it.
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If theres an exploit, someone will find it. However, there definitely arent alot of resources looking though.
I would return and get a Nexus 5X or 6P if rooting is a priority for you.
The phone arrived from Verizon yesterday and it is still on OC3. Is it worth it to keep on an older OTA and root? Buy a different phone?
Wow you're lucky if you plan on using Samsung Pay I would say keep it for now but if you absolutely need root look elsewhere. Otherwise it's a good phone despite it's issues not relating to root.
If you want to wait it out however you can stick with OC3 or upgrade to OE2 and root that as well.
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So maybe you guys here can help me out. I was running CleanRom and got the Galaxy Gear VR's and was so pumped, until I snapped the phone in and nothing happened. Turns out, just like android pay, the VR's didn't like the ROM. So I flashed stock with flashfire and got the VR's working, but A Pay still doesn't work. While I'm not that worried about A Pay, I am now getting an OTA and because I really haven't messed with my phone for about 3+ months, I have no clue what this ota is or what the possible negative repercussions could be. Any info would be greatly appreciated guys. Thanks! ?
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So maybe you guys here can help me out. I was running CleanRom and got the Galaxy Gear VR's and was so pumped, until I snapped the phone in and nothing happened. Turns out, just like android pay, the VR's didn't like the ROM. So I flashed stock with flashfire and got the VR's working, but A Pay still doesn't work. While I'm not that worried about A Pay, I am now getting an OTA and because I really haven't messed with my phone for about 3+ months, I have no clue what this ota is or what the possible negative repercussions could be. Any info would be greatly appreciated guys. Thanks! ?
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It should be OG9, which, along with security fixes, will give you Samsung Pay, if you haven't tripped KNOX on your phone.
Theodric58 said:
It should be OG9, which, along with security fixes, will give you Samsung Pay, if you haven't tripped KNOX on your phone.
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I don't believe Knox is tripped and I froze the ota via TB, so not a big deal anymore, but if I were to do the ota, I'm assuming I'd lose root and couldn't get it back. You think that's reasonable? Also, because I'm on a stock "root" I lost my hotspot. I have unlimited data, but is there a better way to get a hotspot bypass rather than stupid FoxFi? Thanks! ?
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I don't believe Knox is tripped...
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To check to see if KNOX has been tripped:
Power the device off
Press and hold Volume Down + Home + Power Key
Press Volume Up
Look at KNOX WARRANTY VOID
If number is 0 KNOX has not been tripped
If number is 1 the device has been rooted at some point in time and KNOX was tripped
Press and hold Volume Down + Power Key for 10 seconds to reboot the device
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To check to see if KNOX has been tripped:
Power the device off
Press and hold Volume Down + Home + Power Key
Press Volume Up
Look at KNOX WARRANTY VOID
If number is 0 KNOX has not been tripped
If number is 1 the device has been rooted at some point in time and KNOX was tripped
Press and hold Volume Down + Power Key for 10 seconds to reboot the device
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As suspected, took me to download mode and didn't see Knox info anywhere... :-\
Like I mentioned, IDC, but wanna know if I do this ota if it'll unroot. Also, is there any easy way to get a bypass on subscription status for hotspot? Thanks again! ?
BTW. I accidentally hit factory reset and got panicked! Held volume up, power and home while it was shutting down to reset and was able to get into boot loader and just restart without it wiping! Phewww... That was close! Lol
dopediculous said:
As suspected, took me to download mode and didn't see Knox info anywhere... :-\
Like I mentioned, IDC, but wanna know if I do this ota if it'll unroot. Also, is there any easy way to get a bypass on subscription status for hotspot? Thanks again!
BTW. I accidentally hit factory reset and got panicked! Held volume up, power and home while it was shutting down to reset and was able to get into boot loader and just restart without it wiping! Phewww... That was close! Lol
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Did you hit Volume Up after getting into Download mode? That should take you to the ODIN screen that shows the KNOX status.
Theodric58 said:
Did you hit Volume Up after getting into Download mode? That should take you to the ODIN screen that shows the KNOX status.
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Yup and this is all I get...
Guess that's what I get for posting stuff without double checking first... Mine doesn't show KNOX status either....
I'll see if I can find another way.
Theodric58 said:
Guess that's what I get for posting stuff without double checking first... Mine doesn't show KNOX status either....
I'll see if I can find another way.
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Lol. Thanks ?
Theodric58 said:
Guess that's what I get for posting stuff without double checking first... Mine doesn't show KNOX status either....
I'll see if I can find another way.
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There is an app called knox checker that will show you your status.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bryancandi.knoxcheck&hl=en
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Since this is my first post, just recently registered but I have used the site many times for troubleshooting, I will introduce myself. My name is Austin and I am a Mechanical Engineering student in Indiana.
I have a GS3 on AOKP mr1 milestone 2
and an unrooted old nexus 7
My GS3 has been great and with the help of a friend I rooted it and have been installing different roms (mainly AOKP) but just today my power button stopped working. I have searched the forums and got a lot of different threads, but no definite solutions. My button is doing the "seesaw" thing like I saw on another thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023158) and will not lock my screen or turn the phone off.
I went to vzw and I am still under the manufacturer warranty, but the guy told me that I needed to unroot my phone and make sure there is no signs of it being rooted. Is this possible to do without the power button?
I also saw on a the same thread mentioned earlier that someone said just buy the button online it snaps in. Is this true and how hard is this to do or will it even solve my problem? I would really like to just replace my button but I am afraid of turning my phone off.
Speaking of turning my phone off, as soon as I noticed my button not working my brain stopped and I took off my back cover and popped out the battery. First thought that popped into my head was how stupid can you be? If your power button doesn't work why would you even think about taking out the battery!?!? But believe it or not it turned back on right away.
The button still wouldn't work after turning it on. It will not lock/unlock the phone, bring up the power menu, or turn off the phone and I have been too afraid to take out the battery again.
Has anyone else had this problem and what should I do?
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Since this is my first post, just recently registered but I have used the site many times for troubleshooting, I will introduce myself. My name is Austin and I am a Mechanical Engineering student in Indiana.
I have a GS3 on AOKP mr1 milestone 2
and an unrooted old nexus 7
My GS3 has been great and with the help of a friend I rooted it and have been installing different roms (mainly AOKP) but just today my power button stopped working. I have searched the forums and got a lot of different threads, but no definite solutions. My button is doing the "seesaw" thing like I saw on another thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023158) and will not lock my screen or turn the phone off.
I went to vzw and I am still under the manufacturer warranty, but the guy told me that I needed to unroot my phone and make sure there is no signs of it being rooted. Is this possible to do without the power button?
I also saw on a the same thread mentioned earlier that someone said just buy the button online it snaps in. Is this true and how hard is this to do or will it even solve my problem? I would really like to just replace my button but I am afraid of turning my phone off.
Speaking of turning my phone off, as soon as I noticed my button not working my brain stopped and I took off my back cover and popped out the battery. First thought that popped into my head was how stupid can you be? If your power button doesn't work why would you even think about taking out the battery!?!? But believe it or not it turned back on right away.
The button still wouldn't work after turning it on. It will not lock/unlock the phone, bring up the power menu, or turn off the phone and I have been too afraid to take out the battery again.
Has anyone else had this problem and what should I do?
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How about downloading a stock ROM and just flashing that? If your on AOKP you should able to reboot into recovery from the home screen on the phone then just flash the stock ROM. If its rooted just use the stock TW launcher to HIDE the SUPERUSER OR SUPERSU app from the app drawer. Just hit the menu button after opening app drawer and select HIDE APPLICATIONS. if the stock ROM has SUPERSU you can always choose the FULL UNROOT option in the settings of that app and it will delete the app.
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On the power button thing I don't know, but if your phone is under the manufacturer warranty like you say, you can always just call Verizon and they will just send one to your house then you just ship your old one back. That way nobody sees the device except you. I've sent back rooted and ROM'D phones and have had 0 issues.
That is, if you can't fix the button yourself like you would like.
Yeah well apparently it's a "known issue".
Sudden death syndrome or some nonsense.
Go Samsung.
Carloskeee said:
How about downloading a stock ROM and just flashing that? If your on AOKP you should able to reboot into recovery from the home screen on the phone then just flash the stock ROM. If its rooted just use the stock TW launcher to HIDE the SUPERUSER OR SUPERSU app from the app drawer. Just hit the menu button after opening app drawer and select HIDE APPLICATIONS. if the stock ROM has SUPERSU you can always choose the FULL UNROOT option in the settings of that app and it will delete the app.
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On the power button thing I don't know, but if your phone is under the manufacturer warranty like you say, you can always just call Verizon and they will just send one to your house then you just ship your old one back. That way nobody sees the device except you. I've sent back rooted and ROM'D phones and have had 0 issues.
That is, if you can't fix the button yourself like you would like.
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You are an idiot for sending back rooted and ROMed phones
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Before I flashed my phone for the very first time I made a back up on CWM of my stock rom, but I really don't want to send back a rooted phone. I assume that if my phone really does go through an audit at vzw that they would catch that fairly quick and charge me full price for my refurb
redwings - did you have this problem or do you know anyone who has replaced the button and does that even help?
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I think my switch has gone bad. I took the back casing off and the 10 or so small phillips screws that hold on an outer frame and took my button out and tried to press the button in and it would not lock or unlock the phone still :/
I am not sure what to do now. Idk if I can replace this switch or not.
Does anyone know if I can send it to someone who can do it for a reasonable price?
Has anyone else just flashed a stock rom on their rooted phone and sent it back to vzw? Sounds like a bad idea but almost better than waiting until nov 2014 when my contract is up
Mobile tech videos does the power switch repair. I had mine done (out of warranty) and it's been great ever since. Pretty easy process, buy the repair service through the website, mail off the phone according to their instructions, and get it back a few days later. You can choose to pay more for rush processing and faster return shipping if you want to.
Tewell86 said:
Update -
I think my switch has gone bad. I took the back casing off and the 10 or so small phillips screws that hold on an outer frame and took my button out and tried to press the button in and it would not lock or unlock the phone still :/
I am not sure what to do now. Idk if I can replace this switch or not.
Does anyone know if I can send it to someone who can do it for a reasonable price?
Has anyone else just flashed a stock rom on their rooted phone and sent it back to vzw? Sounds like a bad idea but almost better than waiting until nov 2014 when my contract is up
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I would use Triangle away to reset flash counter. Flash stock 4.1.2, stock Kernel, and stock bootchain in Odin. Call Verizon and the them u had a hardware failure. That is what happened you are being honest.
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Sandman-007 said:
You are an idiot for sending back rooted and ROMed phones
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I don't understand your statement. How is he a idiot? If he played for a device that comes with a warranty shouldnt it be honored? You saying he should flash stock rom etc is being just as dishonest. On top of that he even opened up the phone to check the power button. That also voids warranty does it not? If sending back a rooted/romed phone is not acceptible by verizon they will send the phone back. Theres no way they will charge you full retail without the phone itself being PHYSICALLY DAMAGED. when they send you a warranty replacement they specifically state everything you need to know. Your a idiot for calling someone a idiot.
Hypocrisy at its finest.
Billbill123 said:
I don't understand your statement. How is he a idiot? If he played for a device that comes with a warranty shouldnt it be honored? You saying he should flash stock rom etc is being just as dishonest. On top of that he even opened up the phone to check the power button. That also voids warranty does it not? If sending back a rooted/romed phone is not acceptible by verizon they will send the phone back. Theres no way they will charge you full retail without the phone itself being PHYSICALLY DAMAGED. when they send you a warranty replacement they specifically state everything you need to know. Your a idiot for calling someone a idiot.
Hypocrisy at its finest.
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He is expecting them to take a phone that is root and ROMd. That's the idiotic part.
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Sandman-007 said:
He is expecting them to take a phone that is root and ROMd. That's the idiotic part.
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And you expecting them to take a phone that's been opened up is any different? He said he's done it twice. So obviously there was no problem the first time because he's done it once more.
Your a fool if you think they can't tell the phone has been flashed or tampered with, even with your triangle away. Its no different.
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I would use Triangle away to reset flash counter. Flash stock 4.1.2, stock Kernel, and stock bootchain in Odin. Call Verizon and the them u had a hardware failure. That is what happened you are being honest.
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He is expecting them to take a phone that is root and ROMd. That's the idiotic part.
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& your expecting them to take back a phone that he's already opened up. Hahaha.
You guys should quit putting words in my mouth. I never said that. They are both equally as stupid.
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Tewell86 said:
Update -
I think my switch has gone bad. I took the back casing off and the 10 or so small phillips screws that hold on an outer frame and took my button out and tried to press the button in and it would not lock or unlock the phone still :/
I am not sure what to do now. Idk if I can replace this switch or not.
Does anyone know if I can send it to someone who can do it for a reasonable price?
Has anyone else just flashed a stock rom on their rooted phone and sent it back to vzw? Sounds like a bad idea but almost better than waiting until nov 2014 when my contract is up
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I would use Triangle away to reset flash counter. Flash stock 4.1.2, stock Kernel, and stock bootchain in Odin. Call Verizon and the them u had a hardware failure. That is what happened you are being honest.
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Oh okay. So what OP said prior to your post was "Took the caseing off and the 10 or so small..." Meaning he's already opened up the phone.
THEN you post that you would just "Use triangle away to reset..."
You didn't say that? Knowing the phone has already been opened and thus "Voiding" his warranty.
You called me a idiot for returning a rom'd phone? How is your statement regarding him returning a phone that's been opened up any different.? I agree with @Billbill123 at the hypocrisy statement.
I admit I didn't read the whole OP. I didn't see that he has taken the phone apart. He has Voided his warrenty by doing that.
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Online vendor???
I also have a faulty power switch on my phone. I ordered a new button, though once it arrived, I realized this is not the part I needed. I need the actual switch from the circuit board. Does anyone know of a reputable company through which I can quickly acquire a new power switch?
bionik9 said:
I also have a faulty power switch on my phone. I ordered a new button, though once it arrived, I realized this is not the part I needed. I need the actual switch from the circuit board. Does anyone know of a reputable company through which I can quickly acquire a new power switch?
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I plan on doing this soon.
mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-power-button-repair/
For $40 it seems really reasonable and I can activate my old phone while mine is gone. I e-mailed them my problem and they said it will fix it or money back.
Thanks again to everyone who has helped me so far! I will try to give an update after I send my phone off and maybe a review so then if this topic comes up for more people this thread will help them and they won't have to post a new one!
So I had 4.1.2 on my phone and rooted with no problems, but now that I updated to 4.4.2 and lost my root... I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get root back again. Anyone help me please?
Well I got impatient and found something called towelroot and root checker now says I am rooted, but I cannot get CWM installed. Using both Odin 307 and 309 I boot into downloading mode and odin fails and I see red error saying "secure check fail: recovery"
Any help?
MortTheBeast said:
Well I got impatient and found something called towelroot and root checker now says I am rooted, but I cannot get CWM installed. Using both Odin 307 and 309 I boot into downloading mode and odin fails and I see red error saying "secure check fail: recovery"
Any help?
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If you go to settings > about phone build and based band ending in ML1 NC1 NE1 have looked bootloader a meaning you can't install custom rims .. You will have to root / install safestrap and boot custom tw Roms since you are on 4.4.2 you have to wait for a 4.4.2 tw rom I don't think any are out yet
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MortTheBeast said:
Well I got impatient and found something called towelroot and root checker now says I am rooted, but I cannot get CWM installed. Using both Odin 307 and 309 I boot into downloading mode and odin fails and I see red error saying "secure check fail: recovery"
Any help?
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Since we can't install custom roms, I found this xposed module called Wanam Xposed. I'm not even rooted yet but I was going to with towelroot. Anyway, it lets you customize certain looks of the stock rom without modifying anything. You need the Xposed Framework first and then you can get Wanam Xposed.
Mon431 said:
Since we can't install custom roms, I found this xposed module called Wanam Xposed. I'm not even rooted yet but I was going to with towelroot. Anyway, it lets you customize certain looks of the stock rom without modifying anything. You need the Xposed Framework first and then you can get Wanam Xposed.
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Yea I am just going to be as patient as possible till I can unlock the bootloader. How long does it usually take for the tech geniuses to figure this kind of stuff out? I'm wishing I hadn't updated 4.4.2 now... (slaps forehead)
MortTheBeast said:
Yea I am just going to be as patient as possible till I can unlock the bootloader. How long does it usually take for the tech geniuses to figure this kind of stuff out? I'm wishing I hadn't updated 4.4.2 now... (slaps forehead)
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Unless if the file leaks from Samsung like it did on 4.1.2, it won't ever get unlocked
Mon431 said:
Unless if the file leaks from Samsung like it did on 4.1.2, it won't ever get unlocked
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EEEEeeeeek! Don't say things like that! LOL
Anyway... I guess if worse comes to worse, shouldn't a Factory Reset take me back to 4.1.2? And then I would be able to try out one of the 4.4.3 CM Nightly builds
MortTheBeast said:
EEEEeeeeek! Don't say things like that! LOL
Anyway... I guess if worse comes to worse, shouldn't a Factory Reset take me back to 4.1.2? And then I would be able to try out one of the 4.4.3 CM Nightly builds
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A factory reset will reset your phone like it's new but it'll stay on the same version. For example, if you updated to 4.3 and then did a factory reset, you be on 4.3 but your phone would be reset.
Son of a biscuit lol.... maybe if I dunk in the toilet it will revert back to 4.1.2? LMAO! Man... being impatient really put the screws to myself.
MortTheBeast said:
Son of a biscuit lol.... maybe if I dunk in the toilet it will revert back to 4.1.2? LMAO! Man... being impatient really put the screws to myself.
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1st rule of rooting...NEVER OTA! Bricks, locked bootloaders, and facepalms will be imminent.
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MortTheBeast said:
Son of a biscuit lol.... maybe if I dunk in the toilet it will revert back to 4.1.2? LMAO! Man... being impatient really put the screws to myself.
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Yeah, once you update to 4.4.2 you're stuck. You will NEVER be able to go back and you'll never be able to flash a custom recovery. It's Touchwiz from here on out for you.
I feel for you, but it's pretty universally known that you don't take OTA's from Verizon OR Samsung because they usually close up loop holes.
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Yeah, once you update to 4.4.2 you're stuck. You will NEVER be able to go back and you'll never be able to flash a custom recovery. It's Touchwiz from here on out for you.
I feel for you, but it's pretty universally known that you don't take OTA's from Verizon OR Samsung because they usually close up loop holes.
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That seems to be a little presumptuous saying "never". Software is software... which to me means "if there is a will, there is a way", in regards to hacking/cracking it. And if I get that hard pressed to want the ability to tinker with roms I can always just sell the phone and buy one thats not been updated to 4.4.2. All I can say right now being a newb to all this stuff is "lesson learned and stored in memory for future use". :good:
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That seems to be a little presumptuous saying "never". Software is software... which to me means "if there is a will, there is a way", in regards to hacking/cracking it. And if I get that hard pressed to want the ability to tinker with roms I can always just sell the phone and buy one thats not been updated to 4.4.2. All I can say right now being a newb to all this stuff is "lesson learned and stored in memory for future use". :good:
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It's not really presumptuous, it's the truth. Samsung and Verizon are hell bent on keeping their bootloaders locked down. The S5 hasn't been cracked. The S4 cannot be cracked, after MDK. The S3 cannot be cracked after 4.2.1. The S3 was pure luck because somebody inside of Samsung leaked what we needed. The only way it will ever be cracked is if Samsung themselves hand us the code. Never going to happen again. Sorry, it's the hard truth. If you want to tinker, don't buy a Verizon phone and don't buy a Samsung.
What exactly is even the reasoning behind locking the bootloader? I mean, I know they don't want people messing with their software.. but WHY? Are they not already making their profits by selling the phone? Just can't wrap my head around companies that want to limit a consumers options. That would be like buy a computer with for example Windows 8 on it and being told there is no way to remove it and install Windows 7. If I can have whatever OS I want on my computer... then how is that any different then a phone which nowadays is pretty much a handheld computer.
sbenson1226 said:
It's not really presumptuous, it's the truth. Samsung and Verizon are hell bent on keeping their bootloaders locked down. The S5 hasn't been cracked. The S4 cannot be cracked, after MDK. The S3 cannot be cracked after 4.2.1. The S3 was pure luck because somebody inside of Samsung leaked what we needed. The only way it will ever be cracked is if Samsung themselves hand us the code. Never going to happen again. Sorry, it's the hard truth. If you want to tinker, don't buy a Verizon phone and don't buy a Samsung.
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Maybe you (or someone else) can explain to me what options if any I have for unlocked bootloader capability for S3 and S4? Like whats the final software version number that still allows unlocking the bootloader, what if any carrier specific options have it unlocked or able to be. Like you mentioned the S5 not being cracked but I read through a thread on here dating back to just this past May and confirming unlocked bootloader for S5 T-Mobile. S5 is out of my price range, but the S3 and S4 I can pick up at a reasonable price... just need the proper information so I can be sure Im not getting something thats going to stick me with a locked boot. Thanks
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What exactly is even the reasoning behind locking the bootloader? I mean, I know they don't want people messing with their software.. but WHY? Are they not already making their profits by selling the phone? Just can't wrap my head around companies that want to limit a consumers options. That would be like buy a computer with for example Windows 8 on it and being told there is no way to remove it and install Windows 7. If I can have whatever OS I want on my computer... then how is that any different then a phone which nowadays is pretty much a handheld computer.
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Locking the bootloader means added profit on verizons end. You have less access to features that get baked into a custom rom that we bypass, such as free tethering and simply making a device better than stock. Verizon wants this.
The less debloating and access to modified firmware available means they make more money on services people have to pay for.
Verizon will tell you it's better for consumers because it adds to your customer service experience. If you have a problem, and need help, then they are more likely to be able to help you knowing you are not running modified firmware that could give you a less than par experience. They will also add that using unapproved software could negatively impact their network (ie: tethering) and cause problems for other consumers.
There may be some truth in that, but without the ability to flash a new rom you essentially limit your software abilities and limit the life of the phone. It forces people to buy their services and extend their plan more often.
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The t-mobile variant for both the s3 and s4 have unlocked bootloaders on every device. None of them will work on verizons network. Every Verizon Samsung phone is completely locked down.
The last available firmware that can be unlocked on the S3 is mf1. The s4's is MDK or something but that's way harder to find. There is no unlock method for the s5.
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Maybe you (or someone else) can explain to me what options if any I have for unlocked bootloader capability for S3 and S4? Like whats the final software version number that still allows unlocking the bootloader, what if any carrier specific options have it unlocked or able to be. Like you mentioned the S5 not being cracked but I read through a thread on here dating back to just this past May and confirming unlocked bootloader for S5 T-Mobile. S5 is out of my price range, but the S3 and S4 I can pick up at a reasonable price... just need the proper information so I can be sure Im not getting something thats going to stick me with a locked boot. Thanks
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Maybe you (or someone else) can explain to me what options if any I have for unlocked bootloader capability for S3 and S4? Like whats the final software version number that still allows unlocking the bootloader, what if any carrier specific options have it unlocked or able to be. Like you mentioned the S5 not being cracked but I read through a thread on here dating back to just this past May and confirming unlocked bootloader for S5 T-Mobile. S5 is out of my price range, but the S3 and S4 I can pick up at a reasonable price... just need the proper information so I can be sure Im not getting something thats going to stick me with a locked boot. Thanks
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If you're looking to stay with Verizon, I would keep an eye out for a GS4 with the MDK firmware. I see them pop up from time to time on Swappa, but never in the condition I'm looking for (looking to upgrade my wife). Other than that, your best bet is to leave Verizon and buy unlocked phones because at least they don't have additional carrier restrictions.
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Locking the bootloader means added profit on verizons end. You have less access to features that get baked into a custom rom that we bypass, such as free tethering and simply making a device better than stock. Verizon wants this.
The less debloating and access to modified firmware available means they make more money on services people have to pay for.
Verizon will tell you it's better for consumers because it adds to your customer service experience. If you have a problem, and need help, then they are more likely to be able to help you knowing you are not running modified firmware that could give you a less than par experience. They will also add that using unapproved software could negatively impact their network (ie: tethering) and cause problems for other consumers.
There may be some truth in that, but without the ability to flash a new rom you essentially limit your software abilities and limit the life of the phone. It forces people to buy their services and extend their plan more often.
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The t-mobile variant for both the s3 and s4 have unlocked bootloaders on every device. None of them will work on verizons network. Every Verizon Samsung phone is completely locked down.
The last available firmware that can be unlocked on the S3 is mf1. The s4's is MDK or something but that's way harder to find. There is no unlock method for the s5.
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Appreciate the response... but now you also mention the S5 having "no unlock"... what about this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711730
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If you're looking to stay with Verizon, I would keep an eye out for a GS4 with the MDK firmware. I see them pop up from time to time on Swappa, but never in the condition I'm looking for (looking to upgrade my wife). Other than that, your best bet is to leave Verizon and buy unlocked phones because at least they don't have additional carrier restrictions.
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What exactly id MDK? 4.2.2? And yea I really don't care what carrier I am with, I just want a phone I can tinker with and I been getting "tinker withdrawal" since upgrading to 4.4.2
Out of curiosity, what other phones are worth looking into that are comparable to the S3 and S4? It sucks when I am a diehard Samsung lover.
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Appreciate the response... but now you also mention the S5 having "no unlock"... what about this thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711730
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That's T-Mobile. The Verizon version is locked down.
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Am I missing a post? All I can find is the posts for the 930F/FD.
I'm trying to get a handle on this whole 60% battery issue before it gets pushed to me. I know about the app that disables it for you, but honestly I'd rather have Root for ultimate say.
If there's not a ROM for the Sprint version, why not? (other than no one has made one)
I'm sorry if this has been covered in an older post.
Raccoonbuddy85 said:
Am I missing a post? All I can find is the posts for the 930F/FD.
I'm trying to get a handle on this whole 60% battery issue before it gets pushed to me. I know about the app that disables it for you, but honestly I'd rather have Root for ultimate say.
If there's not a ROM for the Sprint version, why not? (other than no one has made one)
I'm sorry if this has been covered in an older post.
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(THIS IS NOT MINE BUT FROM ANOTHER MEMBER)
Yeah. I have a fix. Download this .tar and put each part in the right box. Turn on OEM unlock and Debugging and flash with the latest version of Odin3_v3.12.4_4 . My phone now charges to 100% and the stupid recall nag screen is gone. The phone is 100% stock and unrooted still. You're welcome. Don't forget to hit that thanks button.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767101384
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(THIS IS NOT MINE BUT FROM ANOTHER MEMBER)
Yeah. I have a fix. Download this .tar and put each part in the right box. Turn on OEM unlock and Debugging and flash with the latest version of Odin3_v3.12.4_4 . My phone now charges to 100% and the stupid recall nag screen is gone. The phone is 100% stock and unrooted still. You're welcome. Don't forget to hit that thanks button.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767101384
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I am going to give this a shot, does it get rid of all the warnings too, I just hope I can get back to 100% battery. Does this wipe my data or does it save it? Thanks
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I am going to give this a shot, does it get rid of all the warnings too, I just hope I can get back to 100% battery. Does this wipe my data or does it save it? Thanks
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According to the OP this wipes data.
let the world know if it works please. Don't want to lose my Sammy pay unless it's a somewhat permanent fix
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let the world know if it works please. Don't want to lose my Sammy pay unless it's a somewhat permanent fix
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I will post if it works or not, I wish there was a way to revert to the factory firmware and not wipe the data. So I assume a simple restore really does not restore it to factory another words the updates are still there not the firmware it shipped with? I have to back up my phone and then I am going to give it a shot, if I get a fail message I hope someone here can help me figure out why and how to fix it.
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I will post if it works or not, I wish there was a way to revert to the factory firmware and not wipe the data. So I assume a simple restore really does not restore it to factory another words the updates are still there not the firmware it shipped with? I have to back up my phone and then I am going to give it a shot, if I get a fail message I hope someone here can help me figure out why and how to fix it.
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My guess is the updates applied will stick. The method I mentioned previously works, I know it's a headache to restore data but it's worth it in the end.
Sorry guys, I've flashed this three times and the Samsung patch still over rides and in installs the 60% limit. Only solution is to root and I've not found anything that works yet.
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Well we better get a custom rom quick because Samsung told me today that they will release an update that prevents the phones from being turned on as well as carriers are going to block note 7s from connecting to their network. We have to make our voices heard becaise today its the note 7, tomorrow who knows, I will never buy samsung again after being treated this way.
PS Disable samsung cloud because they are using it to drain your battery...
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Well we better get a custom rom quick because Samsung told me today that they will release an update that prevents the phones from being turned on as well as carriers are going to block note 7s from connecting to their network. We have to make our voices heard becaise today its the note 7, tomorrow who knows, I will never buy samsung again after being treated this way.
PS Disable samsung cloud because they are using it to drain your battery...
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How dare they try so hard to prevent death/injury to you and your loved ones and damage to your property...
It's not like any of that would tarnish their image, right? Wait...
Yeah any lithium ion battery has the possibility to blow up, i dont care that you are a senior member, if you don't have anything useful to add the post, then get out...
We are looking for solutions so get off the soapbox, my Note 7 is at just as much risk as your phone.
To the OP, we really need a custom rom and root quick cuz it wont be long until we are blocked from the networks.
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Yeah any lithium ion battery has the possibility to blow up, i dont care that you are a senior member, if you don't have anything useful to add the post, then get out...
We are looking for solutions so get off the soapbox, my Note 7 is at just as much risk as your phone.
To the OP, we really need a custom rom and root quick cuz it wont be long until we are blocked from the networks.
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True that, however we will be powerless against the IMEI block, that's a cell tower thing, something we don't have control over.
I was successful in reverting to a previous update before the 60% one. I also found a previous version of the package blocker described in some of the posts I've read. All of which you can find via Google (Android central) or XDA.
Phone automatically tried updating, so I skipped ahead as fast as possible to turn on airplane mode. I then installed the already downloaded disabler, disabled the recommended packages and turned on the radio again.
(Note: Ensure that you de-encrypt your files before starting the process, I forgot to and lost some files.)
jag5001 said:
Sorry guys, I've flashed this three times and the Samsung patch still over rides and in installs the 60% limit. Only solution is to root and I've not found anything that works yet.
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Can someone point me to the easiest free way to Root the Note 7, its a Sprint Note 7 so I can get rid of the 60% thing. Does Root allow you to stop the 60% battery limit? Does it allow you to stop all the dang warnings? I would appreciate it. I keep getting different threads about how to Root the Sprint Note 7 so if someone can post a link to the best thread on how to do this the easiest without messing it up. I really appreciate it, thank you in advance.
Rick
Sniper_Ghost said:
Can someone point me to the easiest free way to Root the Note 7, its a Sprint Note 7 so I can get rid of the 60% thing. Does Root allow you to stop the 60% battery limit? Does it allow you to stop all the dang warnings? I would appreciate it. I keep getting different threads about how to Root the Sprint Note 7 so if someone can post a link to the best thread on how to do this the easiest without messing it up. I really appreciate it, thank you in advance.
Rick
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Unfortunately, there isn't a root option for us 930P users. There was something that we *could* have used, however that got patched a couple updates ago and we can't go any further back than the one that patched it (to my understanding).
If we have root access and the XPOSED module, then there certainly will be something we can do about it if you do a quick search in the play store... of course like the package disabler, Samsung will come hard at those apps too... Im lucky enough to not ever had to deal with the 60 percent update, hopefully I'm lucky enough that someone will release a rooted PHE or unlock key for the bootloader.
How was it you were able to get the nag gone? soon as i finished flashing it shows the nag; and the battery update notice, which I don't know which service to disable using a different disabler when i click on debloat, it doesn't block update, unlike disabler pro :\
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How was it you were able to get the nag gone? soon as i finished flashing it shows the nag; and the battery update notice, which I don't know which service to disable using a different disabler when i click on debloat, it doesn't block update, unlike disabler pro :\
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These are a few of the ones that I disabled...
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android386 said:
How was it you were able to get the nag gone? soon as i finished flashing it shows the nag; and the battery update notice, which I don't know which service to disable using a different disabler when i click on debloat, it doesn't block update, unlike disabler pro :
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You won't be able to get 100% of the nag screen gone, but I was able to get it down to just the little one when charging.
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You won't be able to get 100% of the nag screen gone, but I was able to get it down to just the little one when charging.
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I have no nag at all just under settings the number 1 and when i click on it it says system update available...100% green battery....no annoyance even when charging ..i downgraded and stopped 3 things only
Hi Everyone,
I remember back when I had the Note 2. You could reset the counter that gets triggered in Download Mode. Does the Galaxy S7 have a similar counter once I root the phone and install custom ROMS? And is there a way to reset it?
I'm getting the SM-G930F from my brother today. And I'm looking forward to it, but rooting the phone & using Xposed Framework & AdAway are priorities for me on any phone. It has two years warranty, so if anything happens to the phone I want to be able to return it.
Also after 1 year I can upgrade the phone to whatever I want on his plan, so I'll likely get the Galaxy S8. Would be great if someone can answer me today before I root it.
I'm going to use CF Autoroot, then install the latest TWRP. Do a full backup using TWRP. Copy that to the PC, before I start experimenting with different ROMS & mods.
Also another quick question, why do I not see any Android 7 stock Android ROMS or CM based ROMS around? That's surprising. Are the developers waiting for Google to release the source code? When is that expected?
Thanks in advance for all the replies.
Blackfyre said:
Hi Everyone,
I remember back when I had the Note 2. You could reset the counter that gets triggered in Download Mode. Does the Galaxy S7 have a similar counter once I root the phone and install custom ROMS? And is there a way to reset it?
I'm getting the SM-G930F from my brother today. And I'm looking forward to it, but rooting the phone & using Xposed Framework & AdAway are priorities for me on any phone. It has two years warranty, so if anything happens to the phone I want to be able to return it.
Also after 1 year I can upgrade the phone to whatever I want on his plan, so I'll likely get the Galaxy S8. Would be great if someone can answer me today before I root it.
I'm going to use CF Autoroot, then install the latest TWRP. Do a full backup using TWRP. Copy that to the PC, before I start experimenting with different ROMS & mods.
Also another quick question, why do I not see any Android 7 stock Android ROMS or CM based ROMS around? That's surprising. Are the developers waiting for Google to release the source code? When is that expected?
Thanks in advance for all the replies.
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Installing other custom ROM will trigger know and you will lose warranty. I don't see any reason to install custom ROM at least at the moment. There is a root method that claims to not trigger knox but I haven't tried it.
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Try the root method that people relate that doesn't trigger knox..
And there's a few roms to nougat, no custom kernel for now.
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Any root method for the G930F will trip KNOX and void warranty (Afaik it is other models that can be rooted without tripping, unless I've missed something lately)
Flashing anything custom will also trip KNOX
There is no way to reset the KNOX counter
If you trip it, that is permanent
If knox is tripped, will they also refuse to do any hardware repairs? For example, after 2 months my home button doesn't work anymore.
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If knox is tripped, will they also refuse to do any hardware repairs? For example, after 2 months my home button doesn't work anymore.
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All, warranty is warranty, it will be refused
In some cases people get lucky and Samsung repair anyway, maybe because they didn't check, but if KNOX is tripped, all repairs will cost you money with no warranty
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If knox is tripped, will they also refuse to do any hardware repairs? For example, after 2 months my home button doesn't work anymore.
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In Europe, Samsung has to repair the equipment even with Knox tripped, as long as it was not root that damaged the hardware.
I had to send my phone to Samsung, because i screwed up the phone with Xposed and Samsung repaired it without charging anything.
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In Europe, Samsung has to repair the equipment even with Knox tripped, as long as it was not root that damaged the hardware.
I had to send my phone to Samsung, because i screwed up the phone with Xposed and Samsung repaired it without charging anything.
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Thanks alot!
Hansoliv said:
In Europe, Samsung has to repair the equipment even with Knox tripped, as long as it was not root that damaged the hardware.
I had to send my phone to Samsung, because i screwed up the phone with Xposed and Samsung repaired it without charging anything.
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This has been the discussion since my S5 days, they don't often honour it even in Europe, even quoting the piece of law stating they have to
Only a lucky few get it done without a problem
*Detection* said:
This has been the discussion since my S5 days, they don't often honour it even in Europe, even quoting the piece of law stating they have to
Only a lucky few get it done without a problem
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Oops, looks like i got lucky.
Will not try and root again so soon.
Alright, so I've done some research on this subject.
Most root or ROMs will "Fry the knox circuit." Basically, what that is, is a secure, totally private fuse that your phone has, which is like 2 nanometers small chip in you phone's mother board. It's an absolutely tiny fuse that protects the ADMIN section of you phone. Currently most, if all known methods, of root will trip it. So, as stupid as it sounds, I'd say "Buy a USB killer." Which is a USB device meant to test protection circuits. And if you phone is already dead to some point, if they can't power it up, they may just say "**** it" and do a warranty replacement.
Otherwise, unless they can tell, they'll just swap it for a preowned model if they can't tell you ****ed with it.
Honestly, if you have insurance on it, smash it with a hammer. If not, say it started smoking while charging and make sure it won't charge, Apple is scared ****less towards possible fire damage and samsung just had that Note 7 thing
Ok more specifically I'm pretty used to the stock android experience (modded of course) but I read about that audio issue and I'm pretty terrified of it because music and calls are the main things I need a phone for. I've been out of the modded android loop since CM10 so I don't really know present day standards or processes for unlocking/rooting let alone standards for ROMs etc. Anyone got any advice?
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Ok more specifically I'm pretty used to the stock android experience (modded of course) but I read about that audio issue and I'm pretty terrified of it because music and calls are the main things I need a phone for. I've been out of the modded android loop since CM10 so I don't really know present day standards or processes for unlocking/rooting let alone standards for ROMs etc. Anyone got any advice?
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just go to the guides subforum of a8 2018 and press on the thread that can help u flash twrp lol, all you gotta do is just follow the instructions word by word
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Ok more specifically I'm pretty used to the stock android experience (modded of course) but I read about that audio issue and I'm pretty terrified of it because music and calls are the main things I need a phone for. I've been out of the modded android loop since CM10 so I don't really know present day standards or processes for unlocking/rooting let alone standards for ROMs etc. Anyone got any advice?
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my words of advice would be to make sure that you need root before you root it. what i mean by that is think about what you stand to gain by rooting it vs the PITA it is to root this thing. Pay close attention to the 168 hour thing as its been a thorn in many a persons side and caused many a headache. Ive had dozens of android phones and all have been rooted with the exception of the HTC Rezound, which required the OMG PITA "wire trick" to root properly. These phones run very well as stock and dont have much bloatware, so rooting them is becoming less necessary. I got mine in july '18 and have been happy with its performance overall so far. Ive reflashed the stock tar.img a few times for varying reasons, and even rooted it. But after losing SPay capability with root, i flashed back to stock as the gains werent worth the losses to me. Also, SHealth is a task to get working after you trip knox btw.
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my words of advice would be to make sure that you need root before you root it. what i mean by that is think about what you stand to gain by rooting it vs the PITA it is to root this thing. Pay close attention to the 168 hour thing as its been a thorn in many a persons side and caused many a headache. Ive had dozens of android phones and all have been rooted with the exception of the HTC Rezound, which required the OMG PITA "wire trick" to root properly. These phones run very well as stock and dont have much bloatware, so rooting them is becoming less necessary. I got mine in july '18 and have been happy with its performance overall so far. Ive reflashed the stock tar.img a few times for varying reasons, and even rooted it. But after losing SPay capability with root, i flashed back to stock as the gains werent worth the losses to me. Also, SHealth is a task to get working after you trip knox btw.
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Yeah tbh I'm ok with the interface now and aside from making the volume buttons change tracks when you hold them down the only things id need root for is clearing out bloatware etc. I think I'll take your advice and not root it for now (until something breaks) but what is this 168 hour thing?
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Yeah tbh I'm ok with the interface now and aside from making the volume buttons change tracks when you hold them down the only things id need root for is clearing out bloatware etc. I think I'll take your advice and not root it for now (until something breaks) but what is this 168 hour thing?
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there has been a great deal of discussion about how to get the OEM unlock toggle to show up in the developer options, many suggest that its only obtainable by leaving the phone powered off for 168 hours and then rebooting, not connecting to any network (including cellular) and then enabling developer options and then the toggle should be there.
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there has been a great deal of discussion about how to get the OEM unlock toggle to show up in the developer options, many suggest that its only obtainable by leaving the phone powered off for 168 hours and then rebooting, not connecting to any network (including cellular) and then enabling developer options and then the toggle should be there.
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Your wrong your suppose to keep phone on for 168 hours no reboots then oem should show up again.
mchlbenner said:
Your wrong your suppose to keep phone on for 168 hours no reboots then oem should show up again.
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youre*
and youre correct, i said it backwards.
youdoofus said:
there has been a great deal of discussion about how to get the OEM unlock toggle to show up in the developer options, many suggest that its only obtainable by leaving the phone powered off for 168 hours and then rebooting, not connecting to any network (including cellular) and then enabling developer options and then the toggle should be there.
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So wait. My phone is showing the OEM unlock toggle and I can change it. Does that mean I can root? Or would trying to root then make me wait 168 hours? I never tried any custom stuff with it btw. Just bought and installed Lawnchair lol.
Amirk365 said:
So wait. My phone is showing the OEM unlock toggle and I can change it. Does that mean I can root? Or would trying to root then make me wait 168 hours? I never tried any custom stuff with it btw. Just bought and installed Lawnchair lol.
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Hit the toggle and it'll ask for your pw, then you can flash a custom recovery via Odin
Amirk365 said:
So wait. My phone is showing the OEM unlock toggle and I can change it. Does that mean I can root? Or would trying to root then make me wait 168 hours? I never tried any custom stuff with it btw. Just bought and installed Lawnchair lol.
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be careful with starting down the root rabbit hole tho. if you flash anything in download mode, youll trip the knox security counter and that is 100% irreversible without sending it to samsung. Root is cool and allows you to do stuff, but honestly ive not found too much reason to root this phone yet. Ive literally had over 20 android phones and i rooted and modded all of them (except the rezound, if you want to know why that one wasnt fully rooted, just google "rezound wire trick" and youll see) and this one just really doesnt need root IMO. Sure it would be nice to have a few root things, but its not worth the trade off of losing samsung pay so i can pay for stuff with my watch. That feature is just waaaay too valuable to me
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be careful with starting down the root rabbit hole tho. if you flash anything in download mode, youll trip the knox security counter and that is 100% irreversible without sending it to samsung. Root is cool and allows you to do stuff, but honestly ive not found too much reason to root this phone yet. Ive literally had over 20 android phones and i rooted and modded all of them (except the rezound, if you want to know why that one wasnt fully rooted, just google "rezound wire trick" and youll see) and this one just really doesnt need root IMO. Sure it would be nice to have a few root things, but its not worth the trade off of losing samsung pay so i can pay for stuff with my watch. That feature is just waaaay too valuable to me
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If his oem is showing and if he marks it and follow the directions he will be fine I have been rooted since day one of having it.
I never got locked out.
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If his oem is showing and if he marks it and follow the directions he will be fine I have been rooted since day one of having it.
I never got locked out.
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ill never trade my SPay on my watch for root
youdoofus said:
be careful with starting down the root rabbit hole tho. if you flash anything in download mode, youll trip the knox security counter and that is 100% irreversible without sending it to samsung. Root is cool and allows you to do stuff, but honestly ive not found too much reason to root this phone yet. Ive literally had over 20 android phones and i rooted and modded all of them (except the rezound, if you want to know why that one wasnt fully rooted, just google "rezound wire trick" and youll see) and this one just really doesnt need root IMO. Sure it would be nice to have a few root things, but its not worth the trade off of losing samsung pay so i can pay for stuff with my watch. That feature is just waaaay too valuable to me
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Thanks for the advice,but this isn't my first rodeo with Samsung lol. I messed around with the Verizon S5 alot and was lucky to have the version able to unlock it's bootloader.
Amirk365 said:
Thanks for the advice,but this isn't my first rodeo with Samsung lol. I messed around with the Verizon S5 alot and was lucky to have the version able to unlock it's bootloader.
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np, the G900V was a major disappointment with its locked bootloader. i recall spending several hours bricking one and having to restore it with the stock tar.img file. total PITA
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np, the G900V was a major disappointment with its locked bootloader. i recall spending several hours bricking one and having to restore it with the stock tar.img file. total PITA
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Will you stop telling people that you will mess up phone if you try to root it.
If people follow directions they have nothing to worry about.
You where bootloop not bricked a brick device is usually a unfix able.
If is fine you what to keep Sam pay but your info you are telling is wrong.
I recently unroot my phone guess what Sam pay work fine.
Then root phone again no lock out and enable treble and flashed gsi image.
So their nothing wrong with rooting if you want to do that.
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Will you stop telling people that you will mess up phone if you try to root it.
If people follow directions they have nothing to worry about.
You where bootloop not bricked a brick device is usually a unfix able.
If is fine you what to keep Sam pay but your info you are telling is wrong.
I recently unroot my phone guess what Sam pay work fine.
Then root phone again no lock out and enable treble and flashed gsi image.
So their nothing wrong with rooting if you want to do that.
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dude, i dont think youre reading what im saying right. Ive never said that rooting your phone will mess it up. the stuff about the G900V is a DIFFERENT PHONE. FFS. This isnt my first rodeo rooting and modding. Hell, i even was writing mods back in the Evo and S3 days. Im refamiliarizing myself with some of this, but i havent ever said youd mess your phone up if you follow the root instructions. Ill even go as far as saying as long as you dont Odin flash the tar.img for a completely different phone, these things are virtually impossible to hard brick. And yes, a bootloop is referred to as a soft brick. But, it is important to know that if you do root your phone, it WILL make samsung health not work as it did when stock and there is NO WAY of bringing it back without swapping the motherboard
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np, the G900V was a major disappointment with its locked bootloader. i recall spending several hours bricking one and having to restore it with the stock tar.img file. total PITA
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Unlocking the bootloader was completely dependent on the type of EMMC chip that the G900V that you had was using. I got three of those and only one was able to unlock after the Marshmallow update.
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Unlocking the bootloader was completely dependent on the type of EMMC chip that the G900V that you had was using. I got three of those and only one was able to unlock after the Marshmallow update.
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the last tinkering i did with the G900V was several years ago and that was at the point when all hope was lost on the locked bootloader. I havent looked into it since as the G900's i had were G900P's which were FAR easier to work with. I did also root and ROM a couple G900VL's, but again was years ago
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the last tinkering i did with the G900V was several years ago and that was at the point when all hope was lost on the locked bootloader. I havent looked into it since as the G900's i had were G900P's which were FAR easier to work with. I did also root and ROM a couple G900VL's, but again was years ago
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Good times. Anyways I'm not rooting for now. Waiting for Pie and see how it goes.
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Good times. Anyways I'm not rooting for now. Waiting for Pie and see how it goes.
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good times, yeah LOL!!! major waste of time on those friggin G900V's is more like it yeah, i wouldnt root yet, keep the stock recovery so it automagically updates to pie in a few weeks and manually check for updates every so often to force its hand. Also sammobile.com posts them too if you want to force it on via Odin and trip knox. Anyways, if you get the update in the near future, let us know!