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I've got my hands on the 8GB RAM / 256GB ROM White Ceramic edition.
So I made a quick unboxing and hands-on in 2K resolution and 60FPS:
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YS0VWGq3y0
Any questions? I have the device and I'm happy to answer.
I'll do an in depth review after 1 week of usage.
I've seen a few people specifically mention "ceramic edition", but I though all variants were ceramic this time?
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mattman83 said:
I've seen a few people specifically mention "ceramic edition", but I though all variants were ceramic this time?
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Probably true, I was also confused. In end of March I was reading news regarding the 6GB vs. 8GB variants, and the Chinese websites keep saying the 8GB variant was specifically ceramics. I think in the end all variants are ceramic, but it added to the confusion. Is anyone with a 6GB variant able to confirm this?
Are you using the Global version? I've seen some reviews (with the Chinese version) and it seems video recording sound is pretty bad, also for in-call audio. Could you confirm?
Also, I think it comes with a case, right? How is it? Does the camera still stick out with the case?
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Probably true, I was also confused. In end of March I was reading news regarding the 6GB vs. 8GB variants, and the Chinese websites keep saying the 8GB variant was specifically ceramics. I think in the end all variants are ceramic, but it added to the confusion. Is anyone with a 6GB variant able to confirm this?
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I got the 6gb variant and it's ceramic too, as far as I know the special ceramic variant is just less shiny
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I've got my hands on the 8GB RAM / 256GB ROM White Ceramic edition.
So I made a quick unboxing and hands-on in 2K resolution and 60FPS:
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YS0VWGq3y0
Any questions? I have the device and I'm happy to answer.
I'll do an in depth review after 1 week of usage.
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I like your video but had to turn off sound, because the music was beyond awful. Next time, please choose something neutral. Classical always works.
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I like your video but had to turn off sound, because the music was beyond awful. Next time, please choose something neutral. Classical always works.
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Thanks. Unfortunately for monetized videos the selection of music is very limited due to copyright problems. Almost all classical music is copyrighted, so I did a quick search on copyright free background beats and took the first one.
Next time I may simply speak instead of having music. But English is not my native language, and I hate my voice =)
Thanks for the feedback
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Thanks. Unfortunately for monetized videos the selection of music is very limited due to copyright problems. Almost all classical music is copyrighted, so I did a quick search on copyright free background beats and took the first one.
Next time I may simply speak instead of having music. But English is not my native language, and I hate my voice =)
Thanks for the feedback
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I appreciate your sentiment, but there may be misunderstanding here. All classical music (not neo or modern but old school) is public domain and not copyrighted, because classical music has been created more than 70 years ago. Certain performances by certain artists may be copyrighted, but the vast majority of classical music is completely free to use. Moreover, and this is a guess but I think a good guess, automatic algorithms by Youtube couldn't distinguish between royalty free and copyrighted classical music.
Here's more information:
http://www.danosongs.com/blog/which-classical-music-is-royalty-free/
https://musopen.org/
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I appreciate your sentiment, but there may be misunderstanding here. All classical music (not neo or modern but old school) is public domain and not copyrighted, because classical music has been created more than 70 years ago. Certain performances by certain artists may be copyrighted, but the vast majority of classical music is completely free to use. Moreover, and this is a guess but I think a good guess, automatic algorithms by Youtube couldn't distinguish between royalty free and copyrighted classical music.
Here's more information:
http://www.danosongs.com/blog/which-classical-music-is-royalty-free/
https://musopen.org/
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Thanks. I meant the performances of course which are under copyright. I do sampling and beat production in my free time and had to hire a sample Clearance service for the songs i sold.
Moreover i cater to a very homogeneous target audience which isn't really into classic music. Currently a lot of tech channels are using "casey neistat type beats". That's exactly what i did in my video. Sorry if it didn't fit your taste, next time I simply usey voice instead of music. Haha
Fair enough.
You got your hands on this phone, how can I?
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Fair enough.
You got your hands on this phone, how can I?
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Well, I got mine fairly overpriced, but instantly, when going to MBK in Bangkok. There's one shop that imports Xiaomi and other brands form China and sells them here. They had exactly one White 256GB variant... Black was available for 100 USD less.
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Probably true, I was also confused. In end of March I was reading news regarding the 6GB vs. 8GB variants, and the Chinese websites keep saying the 8GB variant was specifically ceramics. I think in the end all variants are ceramic, but it added to the confusion. Is anyone with a 6GB variant able to confirm this?
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My Mix2S was 6GB /128GB, it's white ceramic. It looks like yours, there's silver aluminium frame as well.
I'd got mine from MBK too.
Well, I'm sure I overpaid as well, but I went cheap. 6gb of ram and 64 of storage. Which is enough for me. In black.
720ish CAD from gearbest. Global version.
I can confirm that at least with my carrier Koodo (same as Telus) I get LTE and LTE+ (although it shows accurately as 4G and 4G+)
It's nice, but I wish the face recognition and Google assistant were working properly.
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Well, I'm sure I overpaid as well, but I went cheap. 6gb of ram and 64 of storage. Which is enough for me. In black.
720ish CAD from gearbest. Global version.
I can confirm that at least with my carrier Koodo (same as Telus) I get LTE and LTE+ (although it shows accurately as 4G and 4G+)
It's nice, but I wish the face recognition and Google assistant were working properly.
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I thought global version was only available on the 8/256GB variant. What happened? And what happened to Google Assistant?
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I thought global version was only available on the 8/256GB variant. What happened? And what happened to Google Assistant?
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Dunno what to tell you, it's working on my variant.
Google assistant won't work from a locked screen, only when the screen is on, which is lame.
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Dunno what to tell you, it's working on my variant.
Google assistant won't work from a locked screen, only when the screen is on, which is lame.
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Well, global version just means that it supports most of the existing bands around the world, but the other variants do still support quite a few. Perhaps what you have is not a global version, but it still supports the bands that you need. Why did you say that yours was global, was it advertised as global?
I'm not an expert on Google Assistant but I have played with it quite a bit on previous phones and on my current Pixel XL. I may be able to help, if luck has it, to troubleshoot your particular problem. What are you trying to do and what isn't working, precisely?
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Well, global version just means that it supports most of the existing bands around the world, but the other variants do still support quite a few. Perhaps what you have is not a global version, but it still supports the bands that you need. Why did you say that yours was global, was it advertised as global?
I'm not an expert on Google Assistant but I have played with it quite a bit on previous phones and on my current Pixel XL. I may be able to help, if luck has it, to troubleshoot your particular problem. What are you trying to do and what isn't working, precisely?
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It WAS advertised as global version. It comes with the global rom, with Google play and all that.
Maybe it is some other version that they flashed with the global rom, is there a way to check?
For the assistant. While it's sitting on a table, screen off. I say OK Google, and nothing happens. It's supposed to light up and let me talk to the assistant.
My LG G6 does it fine.
Also, I can't find the settings for face unlock.
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It WAS advertised as global version. It comes with the global rom, with Google play and all that.
Maybe it is some other version that they flashed with the global rom, is there a way to check?
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I honestly don't know if there's an easy way to check aside from trying the phone with a carrier that is supported on global but not on others. Perhaps through some logcat info or maybe there's an app, I don't know. Maybe another user could answer.
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For the assistant. While it's sitting on a table, screen off. I say OK Google, and nothing happens. It's supposed to light up and let me talk to the assistant.
My LG G6 does it fine.
Also, I can't find the settings for face unlock.
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The phone definitely should have hardware to use lower power microphone to listen to voice commands with screen off. That is a standard feature of the 845 chipset. It may be disabled, though I doubt it. Are you sure you set it up correctly? I had a whole helluva time setting up a brand new Galaxy S9 today, but trying to do the opposite of what you want - no voice recognition with screen off, but voice recognition with screen on. The settings were buried by Google, and it took a few minutes to find them.
UPDATE: BTW, there must have been a very recent Google Assistant update recently, because things are now behaving differently from what I remember. You might want to try to experiment setting up the assistant and turning it off several times over to get the proper behavior - I just tried to set up my Pixel XL assistant 30 seconds ago and I couldn't. Gonna play with it myself.
As for face recognition, it's like this:
Settings/Security & Location/Smart Lock/Trusted Face. In your firmware, "Security & Location" may be "Security and Lock screen" or something similar.
Update 2: I can no longer set up Google Assistant with this new software the way it used to work with old software . Even though I did it today on the S9.
I am baffled... maybe bugs?
Here's what you need to do though for your goal.
Settings/Google/Search/Voice/Voice Match --- enable "Access with Voice Match," enable "Unlock with Voice Match." You should be set.
Yeah, I'll play with the assistant some more. I am aware of how to set it up, but I'll play a bit with it.
I literally don't have that option for face unlock. If I remember correctly, that's the Google version. I thought xiaomi had their own version built in, maybe something they left out of the global rom?
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Yeah, I'll play with the assistant some more. I am aware of how to set it up, but I'll play a bit with it.
I literally don't have that option for face unlock. If I remember correctly, that's the Google version. I thought xiaomi had their own version built in, maybe something they left out of the global rom?
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The global rom is not yet available on the Xiaomi website, so we cannot say whether it's bugs and missing features yet. The fact that you don't have the "Trusted Face" option in Google settings or the Xiaomi variant of this feature makes me think that you have an incomplete rom that will probably be updated to rectify these issues in the future.
Hi all guys!
I am considering to get the Nokia 7 however I am still not 100% sure because of the non-localization it provides. I would appreciate if you could answer some of my questions to help me out decide:
1. Is the stock rom multilanguage? If not, is there a multilanguage rom to be flashed?
2. What about the band 20 (800mhz)? Did anyobody realize if it is a hardware limitation or only software (i see that in a few Xiaomi devices like the Mi 5c they managed to unlock it). Is anybody working on it?
3. What should one do to localize it in Europe? Installing Playstore, G services and gapps?
Basically, would you recommend it as a good buy in Europe? I really like it more than the Nokia 7+ because of its form factor.
Thanks to all of those who will help me out
Hi Andy, I bought it on LightintheBox, I did not know the phone, but I got it anyway because I liked it. Now I need China Rom to enable updates from HMD GLOBAL. They told me it's Global version, but it's really raw as an operating system. This Global version does not update. For now is not good for Europe without updates. I'm living in Italy so there is no band 20 (800mhz).
Hi Andy,
I brought mine from coolicool last month and
1. yes, it does come with a multilanguage rom... which cannot be stock because that is chinese+english only. upon startup the phone lapses into an endless "checking for updates" cycle but it can be circumvented (see above topic) after which it works normally.
2. B20 (800mhz) does not seem to be supported by the hardware. that said, the phone works flawlessy on both 3G and 4G (vodafone), handles wifi and data well, comes with google's basics installed and downdoads/updates apps via playstore as it should.
3. based on my (limited) experience, i do recommend it.
pros: well designed and built, runs smoothly, no bloatware, bargain for USD 250
cons: not exactly international (might not see the android 8 update already out for the chinese version), system takes up 17GB (!) of internal memory
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Hi all guys!
I am considering to get the Nokia 7 however I am still not 100% sure because of the non-localization it provides. I would appreciate if you could answer some of my questions to help me out decide:
1. Is the stock rom multilanguage? If not, is there a multilanguage rom to be flashed?
2. What about the band 20 (800mhz)? Did anyobody realize if it is a hardware limitation or only software (i see that in a few Xiaomi devices like the Mi 5c they managed to unlock it). Is anybody working on it?
3. What should one do to localize it in Europe? Installing Playstore, G services and gapps?
Basically, would you recommend it as a good buy in Europe? I really like it more than the Nokia 7+ because of its form factor.
Thanks to all of those who will help me out
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hi i bought a nokia 7 global rom from china and the rom causes a lot of problems .So i advise you to go for the chinese/english version and get ota updates and install google play apk file.Now i have flashed back to stock firmware(chinese/english) and now the phone works properly on android 8.1.0. .About band 20 i think is working
here in sweden as far as i know.I think it is a good buy if it is on stock rom(chinese/english) version so good luck
This is the official FunkyHuawei thread for the Mate 20X.
What FunkyHuawei Supports Currently:
1. Firmware Installation / Unbricking
FunkyHuawei supports the Mate 20X for unbricking and firmware installation, but support has not yet been made public. This will be updated when it is.
2. Rebranding
Rebranding is currently not possible on the Mate 20X, even with root or unlocked bootloader. If this changes in the future, it will be updated.
Those who need to install updates and so on are welcome to contact FunkyHuawei support for help while the release of support for this model is still private.
Any other questions, feel free to ask them here.
Can you unlock the bootloader so it can be rooted?
Also, is there any difference in hardware between the 6/128 China version and the 6/128 Global version?
I see people mention google support, but how can it be impossible to install google stuff on a rooted china model?
Thanks
Hi, would these apps work on this version of the phone?
- Gboard, Google Pay(I usually use it for contactless payment), UK banking apps(HSBC, Barclays, etc)
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aung24 said:
Hi, would these apps work on this version of the phone?
- Gboard, Google Pay(I usually use it for contactless payment), UK banking apps(HSBC, Barclays, etc)
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Hi
I have a Honor note 10 and use Google pay just fine . I bank with Metrol bank and First direct who is part of HSBC .
Not tried gboard but all other Google apps works fine.
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Can you unlock the bootloader so it can be rooted?
Also, is there any difference in hardware between the 6/128 China version and the 6/128 Global version?
I see people mention google support, but how can it be impossible to install google stuff on a rooted china model?
Thanks
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I dont believe there is any hardware difference just maybe 1 let band difference. Chinese model will get updates quicker as the main base is in China so there update that model first . Google pay etc worked fine on my Honor note 10 which came out in August, call it the smaller brother which has no global ROM .
I personally prefer Chinese model , can delete most Chinese apps fine , yes some will remain and some Chinese characters in certain parts but still prefer Chinese model
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Can you unlock the bootloader so it can be rooted?
Also, is there any difference in hardware between the 6/128 China version and the 6/128 Global version?
I see people mention google support, but how can it be impossible to install google stuff on a rooted china model?
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Huawei have become strict in unlocking so maybe not but Honor who is apart of Huawei did offer users of honour note 10 codes .
@duraaraa,
I haven't been around here much since back when we goofed around with the Mi Mix (recall I sent you one I got so you could work on it since you didn't have one). Anyways, really glad to see what you have done with FunkyHuawei and all - impressive you turned your hobby in to a business so congrats.
I am curious about buying the global from your site. I am very likely to pull the trigger for one of these soon, haven't had a Chinese phone since my Mi Mix and Mate 9 (sold the Mi Mix ultimately for being to rough around the edges in terms of software and the mid range camera but kept the Mate 9 and was pretty happy with it for a while with no real issues once setup properly). Can you give us a summary of the finer points you see as advantages to getting a global from FunkyHuawei verse just getting a Chinese version with Play store already installed?
P.S. Anyone looking for a great unlocked Note 9 with bunch of accessories and whatnot send me PM.
SWBgHz said:
@duraaraa,
I haven't been around here much since back when we goofed around with the Mi Mix (recall I sent you one I got so you could work on it since you didn't have one). Anyways, really glad to see what you have done with FunkyHuawei and all - impressive you turned your hobby in to a business so congrats.
I am curious about buying the global from your site. I am very likely to pull the trigger for one of these soon, haven't had a Chinese phone since my Mi Mix and Mate 9 (sold the Mi Mix ultimately for being to rough around the edges in terms of software and the mid range camera but kept the Mate 9 and was pretty happy with it for a while with no real issues once setup properly). Can you give us a summary of the finer points you see as advantages to getting a global from FunkyHuawei verse just getting a Chinese version with Play store already installed?
P.S. Anyone looking for a great unlocked Note 9 with bunch of accessories and whatnot send me PM.
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I think you might have mistaken me for someone else about the Mi Mix, but I did work on the Mi Mix 2. I've never actually seen a Mi Mix 1 in person
The Chinese version uses various Chinese services instead of Google Services, and some of those can't be changed. For example, for location services. For the default voice assistant. And so on.
I've heard that OK Google doesn't work on the Chinese version, while you can use it to unlock the phone on the international version, and so on.
I had thought that Chinese version wouldn't pass Safetynet, but I'm not sure. I've also heard that the Chinese version doesn't allow you to change the default launcher. The dual app feature supports whatsapp and facebook on the global version, but wechat and chinese apps on the Chinese version, and so on.
If you don't live in China, getting the global version will work out better for most people.
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Can you unlock the bootloader so it can be rooted?
Also, is there any difference in hardware between the 6/128 China version and the 6/128 Global version?
I see people mention google support, but how can it be impossible to install google stuff on a rooted china model?
Thanks
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Certain google things can be installed on the Chinese model. But google is baked into the non-Chinese model. So things like OK Google (to wake up the phone), google assistant as default, Google used as location provider, and so on, will be available only on the international model.
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Can you unlock the bootloader so it can be rooted?
Also, is there any difference in hardware between the 6/128 China version and the 6/128 Global version?
I see people mention google support, but how can it be impossible to install google stuff on a rooted china model?
Thanks
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As far as I know you can't unlock the bootloader or root these at present.
If 'Enable OEM Unlock' becomes select-able in developer options it would be possible.
duraaraa said:
As far as I know you can't unlock the bootloader or root these at present.
If 'Enable OEM Unlock' becomes select-able in developer options it would be possible.
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Sorry, I meant can you unlock the bootloader on the chinese version, I thought I saw people saying the OEM unlock option was available on the chinese version.
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jackfrost7 said:
Sorry, I meant can you unlock the bootloader on the chinese version, I thought I saw people saying the OEM unlock option was available on the chinese version.
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I am getting the chinese version as i prefer this model but if your not sure of things buddy get the global version as its available .
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Sorry, I meant can you unlock the bootloader on the chinese version, I thought I saw people saying the OEM unlock option was available on the chinese version.
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I don't h ave an OEM unlock or bootloader unlock in my dev menu.. not tried ADP yet..
@duraaraa is there anyway to take a different payment besides PayPal? I'm trying to pay with affirm, but it's declining the card.
Actually it shows approved. Can you please check for my order?
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@duraaraa is there anyway to take a different payment besides PayPal? I'm trying to pay with affirm, but it's declining the card.
Actually it shows approved. Can you please check for my order?
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I think you emailed FH already, so we'll discuss over email.
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This is the official FunkyHuawei thread for the Mate 20X.
What FunkyHuawei Supports Currently:
1. Firmware Installation / Unbricking
FunkyHuawei supports the Mate 20X for unbricking and firmware installation, but support has not yet been made public. This will be updated when it is.
2. Rebranding
Rebranding is currently not possible on the Mate 20X, even with root or unlocked bootloader. If this changes in the future, it will be updated.
Those who need to install updates and so on are welcome to contact FunkyHuawei support for help while the release of support for this model is still private.
Any other questions, feel free to ask them here.
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Hi I have the Chinese mate 20x when will the global ROM be available to flash on this?
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Hi I have the Chinese mate 20x when will the global ROM be available to flash on this?
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that will be good to know if possible (think need bootloader unlocking is needed though)...hope...
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Greetings .. I'm afraid to have a screen problem like 20 pro. 20 x in Do you have any information about the display manufacturer?
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Greetings .. I'm afraid to have a screen problem like 20 pro. 20 x in Do you have any information about the display manufacturer?
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What is the screen problems?
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What is the screen problems?
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The Mate 20 pro has green bleeding out for lack of better terms on the edges. Seems to be very common now
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The Mate 20 pro has green bleeding out for lack of better terms on the edges. Seems to be very common now
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Have not heard anything for the Mate 20 X. The Pro has the screen supplied by LG and BOE, and most of the green-color bleeding issues are from LG. The screen of Mate 20 X is supplied by Samsung.
Hi @duraaraa. I think I'm ok sticking with Chinese version. But was wondering, in the event I'd like to change it to L29, if progress has been made on rebranding. Do you think it will be possible in the coming months. Thanks!
How can I know if my Realme phone has the Chinese ROM, or Global ROM, (besides the label on the box)?
Is there a section in the settings app that provides such info?
Also, if a malicious seller installs Global ROM on the Chinese variant hardware and tries to pass it as a genuine global variant, how can I identify such fraud?
Or, can I just enter the IMEI on a website fo check its ROM edition?
P.S. I have never used a Realme or OPPO phone.
( In Xiaomi phones, Global version phones have "MIUI Global" written in their phone settings' About section. Also, these phones have ROM codes ending in ***MIXM. While Chinese version phones have ***CNXM. Is there a similar info to be found in Realme ColorOS Settings?)
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How can I know if my Realme phone has the Chinese ROM, or Global ROM, (besides the label on the box)?
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There is barely any difference between the two but Chinese Rom is different because it's codename isn't Realme 5 Pro but Realme Q. It's almost impossible not to notice. If you had Chinese rom in settings about phone there would be Realme Q under model label, not realme 5 pro. Furthermore in case you didn't notice that there would be preinstalled Chinese market and apps and less or none Google stuff.
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Is there a section in the settings app that provides such info?
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On stock rom go to settings and about phone.
LeHalua said:
Also, if a malicious seller installs Global ROM on the Chinese variant hardware and tries to pass it as a genuine global variant, how can I identify such fraud?
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If the seller for some reason put global rom on your model which was made for Chinese market (which I highly doubt for it's no easy feat and takes time+effort furthermore it'd not worth it from the perspective of the seller) then there's no way you could notice that.
Except if you're a very advanced user like me. There are tiny differences between Chinese model hardware and global hardware so you shouldn't worry. There are two key differences (which I think are rather hardcoded than hardware limitation). One is that Chinese Realme Q has smaller system partition size for Chinese rom uses less storage because missing Google stuff. Other is global and Chinese variant modem antenna seems to support different 4G bands. Obviously Realme Q supports bands that are frequently used in China while global supports bands that are used in worldwide. This means Realme Q hardware is limited thus doesn't support European B7 and B20 4G bands.
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Or, can I just enter the IMEI on a website fo check its ROM edition?
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I don't know about such method.
LeHalua said:
P.S. I have never used a Realme or OPPO phone.
( In Xiaomi phones, Global version phones have "MIUI Global" written in their phone settings' About section. Also, these phones have ROM codes ending in ***MIXM. While Chinese version phones have ***CNXM. Is there a similar info to be found in Realme ColorOS Settings?)
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Yes. And more obvious.
Chinese market>Realme Q (RMX1971CN)
Global>Realme 5 Pro(RMX1971EX)
But don't bother trying to find device codenames with non-root apps. They don't make a difference between RMX1971CN and RMX1971EX.
Some extra info and details:
I ordered a Realme Q from China via AliExpress last October. Since then I'm using my device in Europe, Hungary and I'm in love with it. All the technical details I shared are results of personal testing and debugging. I'll tell you why you shouldn't worry about a Realme Q sold as a Realme 5 Pro.
If a seller wanted to do this for some reason they'd need to ask for official bootloader unlock from Realme. After getting the unlock approval (which isn't nearly sure for monthly unlock cap is 1000 device) they'd need to flash a custom recovery on it and clean flash a Realme 5 Pro global rom on the device. Fastboot flashing doesn't always work with this method. Furthermore because Realme Q system partition isn't as big as Realme 5 Pro's there would be complications.
After successfully flashing Global rom on the device the seller would need to flash back stock recovery and relock bootloader. This would likely confuse the device and cause bootloop. This whole procedure is timely, lots of effort required and some serious skill. As conclusion it is totally pointless and not worth it for any seller. The procedure is nearly the same on Xiaomi devices. So such logic applies there as well.
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If the seller for some reason put global rom on your model which was made for Chinese market (which I highly doubt for it's no easy feat and takes time+effort furthermore it'd not worth it from the perspective of the seller) then there's no way you could notice that.
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In some South/Southeast Asian countries, Chinese versions of phones sell cheap, but obviously people want the global version. That's why sellers used to do such scam. It seems unbelievable but it used to be very common in countries like India. But after makers like Xiaomi locked down their devices (e.g. bootloader unlock waiting period, anti-rollback protection, ROM flashing requires unlocked bootloader even if it's meant for the same device, etc.), this practice has all but disappeared. I wasn't really sure if a newer brand like Realme would have similar protections, but seems like they do have them. So I guess I'm covered.
And thanks for your comprehensive answer. It's really helpful.
On a side note, does ColorOS/RealmeOS have these features built-in: call recording, screen recording, dual-apps/clone-apps, second space/parallel space, etc.?
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In some South/Southeast Asian countries, Chinese versions of phones sell cheap, but obviously people want the global version. That's why sellers used to do such scam. It seems unbelievable but it used to be very common in countries like India. But after makers like Xiaomi locked down their devices (e.g. bootloader unlock waiting period, anti-rollback protection, ROM flashing requires unlocked bootloader even if it's meant for the same device, etc.), this practice has all but disappeared. I wasn't really sure if a newer brand like Realme would have similar protections, but seems like they do have them. So I guess I'm covered.
And thanks for your comprehensive answer. It's really helpful.
On a side note, does ColorOS/RealmeOS have these features built-in: call recording, screen recording, dual-apps/clone-apps, second space/parallel space, etc.?
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The more I know. No bigge. I try my best. I barely know anything about Color OS for I'm a real pure android lover thus ditched Cos after 3 days. I can't really comment on these features.
So I'm in China where the Chinese model is about to come out, and I wanna get it, except I'm concerned that I would be unable to use google software (namely google play, maps, email, and syncing contacts). I recall some Chinese phones won't allow google services to be installed, rendering all those things useless, even with a VPN. Anyone know if the Chinese version can support the installation of google apps?
Likewise, I read in one of the threads here that the CN version might be rootable. Is there any way to confirm this, or has it been confirmed?
And finally, does it have a ton of Chinese apps pre-installed and somewhat burnt into the OS, so they can't be uninstalled?
I know some people already have it, as there are a lot of reviews of it online, but none of them address those questions. Any help? Thanks!
Chinese version will not have locked bootloader, it will be rootable. On the other hand, you are going to void your warranty for unlocking bootloader.
For Google play services, it's all included in Chinese variant. You don't need to worry about it.
Finally for the Chinese bloatwares, I believe you can uninstall them due to some Chinese regulations... If not, I believe you can flash HK rom on it to get rid of Chinese only features.
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jackie099 said:
Chinese version will not have locked bootloader, it will be rootable. On the other hand, you are going to void your warranty for unlocking bootloader.
For Google play services, it's all included in Chinese variant. You don't need to worry about it.
Finally for the Chinese bloatwares, I believe you can uninstall them due to some Chinese regulations... If not, I believe you can flash HK rom on it to get rid of Chinese only features.
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Wow for sure? Out of curiosity, do you have this phone already? I believe ya and all, just curious how you can know for sure. I'm just kinda shocked to think that the Chinese version of the phone would ALREADY include google services - I can't think of any phone I've ever had all these years (I've lived in China for about 20 years) that included google services. That's amazing. Thanks a ton!
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Wow for sure? Out of curiosity, do you have this phone already? I believe ya and all, just curious how you can know for sure. I'm just kinda shocked to think that the Chinese version of the phone would ALREADY include google services - I can't think of any phone I've ever had all these years (I've lived in China for about 20 years) that included google services. That's amazing. Thanks a ton!
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Okay. Due to Chinese regulation, phone manufacturers are not allowed to put carrier lock on phones in China. Therefore, Samsung has never locked BL on Chinese and HK variant. Also, Samsung has Google services baked into all Chinese firmwares, you only need to install Google Play manually to use it. You can check how they are using Google Play on Chinese Galaxy S20 series. As I said, the last thing you can do is to flash HK firmware on your phone as they have exactly the same hardware, it comes with everything without Chinese specific features.
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Okay. Due to Chinese regulation, phone manufacturers are not allowed to put carrier lock on phones in China. Therefore, Samsung has never locked BL on Chinese and HK variant. Also, Samsung has Google services baked into all Chinese firmwares, you only need to install Google Play manually to use it. You can check how they are using Google Play on Chinese Galaxy S20 series. As I said, the last thing you can do is to flash HK firmware on your phone as they have exactly the same hardware, it comes with everything without Chinese specific features.
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You're my hero mate. I know that's a bit overkill, but just excited at the good news, as I already pre-ordered. Might I add a follow up question? What kind of "Chinese specific features" might there be? Apps like WeChat, AliPay, Didi, DouYin, KuaiShou, TouTiao, Youku, WeiBo, BiliBili, etc, are these not also popular in HK? If ya don't know, no worries, you've still made me a happy camper, and thanks again~
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You're my hero mate. I know that's a bit overkill, but just excited at the good news, as I already pre-ordered. Might I add a follow up question? What kind of "Chinese specific features" might there be? Apps like WeChat, AliPay, Didi, DouYin, KuaiShou, TouTiao, Youku, WeiBo, BiliBili, etc, are these not also popular in HK? If ya don't know, no worries, you've still made me a happy camper, and thanks again~
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Bt the time I used samsung last time (galaxy s8), Chinese rom has those extra features that helps you to manage start up items, or background items. Oh also you can only use samsung pay in China with chinese rom. Hk people won't use chinese social medias cuz they have twitter, facebook, whatsapp...
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Bt the time I used samsung last time (galaxy s8), Chinese rom has those extra features that helps you to manage start up items, or background items. Oh also you can only use samsung pay in China with chinese rom. Hk people won't use chinese social medias cuz they have twitter, facebook, whatsapp...
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In that case, I would definitely prefer the HK version. Can't stand Chinese social media, nor do I use samsung pay - come to think of it, i've NEVER seen that in China mainland. I'll prolly switch to HK version once it's out - and safe to do so. Again, thanks a bunch!
Which ROM will be better for SM-F9160 if I use it in Bangladesh? I purchase SM-F9160 and I live in Bangladesh which ROM should I install in SM-F9160 (Hong Kong) TGY or SM-F9160 (Open China) CHC or SM-F9160 (Taiwan) BRI?
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jackie099 said:
Chinese version will not have locked bootloader, it will be rootable. On the other hand, you are going to void your warranty for unlocking bootloader.
For Google play services, it's all included in Chinese variant. You don't need to worry about it.
Finally for the Chinese bloatwares, I believe you can uninstall them due to some Chinese regulations... If not, I believe you can flash HK rom on it to get rid of Chinese only features.
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Which ROM will be better for SM-F9160 if I use it in Bangladesh? I purchase SM-F9160 and I live in Bangladesh which ROM should I install in SM-F9160 (Hong Kong) TGY or SM-F9160 (Open China) CHC or SM-F9160 (Taiwan) BRI?