Hands-On: Mi Mix 2S 8GB White Ceramic Edition (Q&A) - Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S Questions & Answers

I've got my hands on the 8GB RAM / 256GB ROM White Ceramic edition.
So I made a quick unboxing and hands-on in 2K resolution and 60FPS:
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YS0VWGq3y0
Any questions? I have the device and I'm happy to answer.
I'll do an in depth review after 1 week of usage.

I've seen a few people specifically mention "ceramic edition", but I though all variants were ceramic this time?
M.

mattman83 said:
I've seen a few people specifically mention "ceramic edition", but I though all variants were ceramic this time?
M.
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Probably true, I was also confused. In end of March I was reading news regarding the 6GB vs. 8GB variants, and the Chinese websites keep saying the 8GB variant was specifically ceramics. I think in the end all variants are ceramic, but it added to the confusion. Is anyone with a 6GB variant able to confirm this?

Are you using the Global version? I've seen some reviews (with the Chinese version) and it seems video recording sound is pretty bad, also for in-call audio. Could you confirm?
Also, I think it comes with a case, right? How is it? Does the camera still stick out with the case?

underlines said:
Probably true, I was also confused. In end of March I was reading news regarding the 6GB vs. 8GB variants, and the Chinese websites keep saying the 8GB variant was specifically ceramics. I think in the end all variants are ceramic, but it added to the confusion. Is anyone with a 6GB variant able to confirm this?
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I got the 6gb variant and it's ceramic too, as far as I know the special ceramic variant is just less shiny

underlines said:
I've got my hands on the 8GB RAM / 256GB ROM White Ceramic edition.
So I made a quick unboxing and hands-on in 2K resolution and 60FPS:
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YS0VWGq3y0
Any questions? I have the device and I'm happy to answer.
I'll do an in depth review after 1 week of usage.
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I like your video but had to turn off sound, because the music was beyond awful. Next time, please choose something neutral. Classical always works.

nabbed said:
I like your video but had to turn off sound, because the music was beyond awful. Next time, please choose something neutral. Classical always works.
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Thanks. Unfortunately for monetized videos the selection of music is very limited due to copyright problems. Almost all classical music is copyrighted, so I did a quick search on copyright free background beats and took the first one.
Next time I may simply speak instead of having music. But English is not my native language, and I hate my voice =)
Thanks for the feedback

underlines said:
Thanks. Unfortunately for monetized videos the selection of music is very limited due to copyright problems. Almost all classical music is copyrighted, so I did a quick search on copyright free background beats and took the first one.
Next time I may simply speak instead of having music. But English is not my native language, and I hate my voice =)
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I appreciate your sentiment, but there may be misunderstanding here. All classical music (not neo or modern but old school) is public domain and not copyrighted, because classical music has been created more than 70 years ago. Certain performances by certain artists may be copyrighted, but the vast majority of classical music is completely free to use. Moreover, and this is a guess but I think a good guess, automatic algorithms by Youtube couldn't distinguish between royalty free and copyrighted classical music.
Here's more information:
http://www.danosongs.com/blog/which-classical-music-is-royalty-free/
https://musopen.org/

nabbed said:
I appreciate your sentiment, but there may be misunderstanding here. All classical music (not neo or modern but old school) is public domain and not copyrighted, because classical music has been created more than 70 years ago. Certain performances by certain artists may be copyrighted, but the vast majority of classical music is completely free to use. Moreover, and this is a guess but I think a good guess, automatic algorithms by Youtube couldn't distinguish between royalty free and copyrighted classical music.
Here's more information:
http://www.danosongs.com/blog/which-classical-music-is-royalty-free/
https://musopen.org/
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Thanks. I meant the performances of course which are under copyright. I do sampling and beat production in my free time and had to hire a sample Clearance service for the songs i sold.
Moreover i cater to a very homogeneous target audience which isn't really into classic music. Currently a lot of tech channels are using "casey neistat type beats". That's exactly what i did in my video. Sorry if it didn't fit your taste, next time I simply usey voice instead of music. Haha

Fair enough.
You got your hands on this phone, how can I?

nabbed said:
Fair enough.
You got your hands on this phone, how can I?
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Well, I got mine fairly overpriced, but instantly, when going to MBK in Bangkok. There's one shop that imports Xiaomi and other brands form China and sells them here. They had exactly one White 256GB variant... Black was available for 100 USD less.

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Probably true, I was also confused. In end of March I was reading news regarding the 6GB vs. 8GB variants, and the Chinese websites keep saying the 8GB variant was specifically ceramics. I think in the end all variants are ceramic, but it added to the confusion. Is anyone with a 6GB variant able to confirm this?
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My Mix2S was 6GB /128GB, it's white ceramic. It looks like yours, there's silver aluminium frame as well.
I'd got mine from MBK too.

Well, I'm sure I overpaid as well, but I went cheap. 6gb of ram and 64 of storage. Which is enough for me. In black.
720ish CAD from gearbest. Global version.
I can confirm that at least with my carrier Koodo (same as Telus) I get LTE and LTE+ (although it shows accurately as 4G and 4G+)
It's nice, but I wish the face recognition and Google assistant were working properly.

SolarisSixth said:
Well, I'm sure I overpaid as well, but I went cheap. 6gb of ram and 64 of storage. Which is enough for me. In black.
720ish CAD from gearbest. Global version.
I can confirm that at least with my carrier Koodo (same as Telus) I get LTE and LTE+ (although it shows accurately as 4G and 4G+)
It's nice, but I wish the face recognition and Google assistant were working properly.
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I thought global version was only available on the 8/256GB variant. What happened? And what happened to Google Assistant?

nabbed said:
I thought global version was only available on the 8/256GB variant. What happened? And what happened to Google Assistant?
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Dunno what to tell you, it's working on my variant.
Google assistant won't work from a locked screen, only when the screen is on, which is lame.

SolarisSixth said:
Dunno what to tell you, it's working on my variant.
Google assistant won't work from a locked screen, only when the screen is on, which is lame.
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Well, global version just means that it supports most of the existing bands around the world, but the other variants do still support quite a few. Perhaps what you have is not a global version, but it still supports the bands that you need. Why did you say that yours was global, was it advertised as global?
I'm not an expert on Google Assistant but I have played with it quite a bit on previous phones and on my current Pixel XL. I may be able to help, if luck has it, to troubleshoot your particular problem. What are you trying to do and what isn't working, precisely?

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Well, global version just means that it supports most of the existing bands around the world, but the other variants do still support quite a few. Perhaps what you have is not a global version, but it still supports the bands that you need. Why did you say that yours was global, was it advertised as global?
I'm not an expert on Google Assistant but I have played with it quite a bit on previous phones and on my current Pixel XL. I may be able to help, if luck has it, to troubleshoot your particular problem. What are you trying to do and what isn't working, precisely?
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It WAS advertised as global version. It comes with the global rom, with Google play and all that.
Maybe it is some other version that they flashed with the global rom, is there a way to check?
For the assistant. While it's sitting on a table, screen off. I say OK Google, and nothing happens. It's supposed to light up and let me talk to the assistant.
My LG G6 does it fine.
Also, I can't find the settings for face unlock.

SolarisSixth said:
It WAS advertised as global version. It comes with the global rom, with Google play and all that.
Maybe it is some other version that they flashed with the global rom, is there a way to check?
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I honestly don't know if there's an easy way to check aside from trying the phone with a carrier that is supported on global but not on others. Perhaps through some logcat info or maybe there's an app, I don't know. Maybe another user could answer.
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For the assistant. While it's sitting on a table, screen off. I say OK Google, and nothing happens. It's supposed to light up and let me talk to the assistant.
My LG G6 does it fine.
Also, I can't find the settings for face unlock.
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The phone definitely should have hardware to use lower power microphone to listen to voice commands with screen off. That is a standard feature of the 845 chipset. It may be disabled, though I doubt it. Are you sure you set it up correctly? I had a whole helluva time setting up a brand new Galaxy S9 today, but trying to do the opposite of what you want - no voice recognition with screen off, but voice recognition with screen on. The settings were buried by Google, and it took a few minutes to find them.
UPDATE: BTW, there must have been a very recent Google Assistant update recently, because things are now behaving differently from what I remember. You might want to try to experiment setting up the assistant and turning it off several times over to get the proper behavior - I just tried to set up my Pixel XL assistant 30 seconds ago and I couldn't. Gonna play with it myself.
As for face recognition, it's like this:
Settings/Security & Location/Smart Lock/Trusted Face. In your firmware, "Security & Location" may be "Security and Lock screen" or something similar.
Update 2: I can no longer set up Google Assistant with this new software the way it used to work with old software . Even though I did it today on the S9.
I am baffled... maybe bugs?
Here's what you need to do though for your goal.
Settings/Google/Search/Voice/Voice Match --- enable "Access with Voice Match," enable "Unlock with Voice Match." You should be set.

Yeah, I'll play with the assistant some more. I am aware of how to set it up, but I'll play a bit with it.
I literally don't have that option for face unlock. If I remember correctly, that's the Google version. I thought xiaomi had their own version built in, maybe something they left out of the global rom?

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Yeah, I'll play with the assistant some more. I am aware of how to set it up, but I'll play a bit with it.
I literally don't have that option for face unlock. If I remember correctly, that's the Google version. I thought xiaomi had their own version built in, maybe something they left out of the global rom?
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The global rom is not yet available on the Xiaomi website, so we cannot say whether it's bugs and missing features yet. The fact that you don't have the "Trusted Face" option in Google settings or the Xiaomi variant of this feature makes me think that you have an incomplete rom that will probably be updated to rectify these issues in the future.

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Buying in Europe?

Anybody seen the MediaPad X2 in Europe for sale yet? Or people having experience with online sellers ( where you do not end up with a sky high import tax at delivery? ). Thanks...
Benjiro said:
Anybody seen the MediaPad X2 in Europe for sale yet? Or people having experience with online sellers ( where you do not end up with a sky high import tax at delivery? ). Thanks...
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I ordered a GEM-703L from a UK seller today. More expensive than the GEM-701L that's been advertised on Amazon for months but I just didn't want to wait any longer.
Also I have my doubts whether the GEM-701L will be available in the 3G/32GB gold version.
And lastly ROM development for the GEM-703L will be ahead of the GEM-701L.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=252024710876&globalID=EBAY-DE
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I ordered a GEM-703L from a UK seller today. More expensive than the GEM-701L that's been advertised on Amazon for months but I just didn't want to wait any longer.
Also I have my doubts whether the GEM-701L will be available in the 3G/32GB gold version.
And lastly ROM development for the GEM-703L will be ahead of the GEM-701L.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=252024710876&globalID=EBAY-DE
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How are you liking the X2? THe 703-L is the Chinese version, I believe (Honor X2)? Or is it configured for the European market (Google Play installed, default language is not Mandarin, etc.?)
So far so good although I am still waiting for the unlock code from Huawei.
My X2 came with Google Play pre-installed and English language.
I did a factory reset and then I could choose whatever language I required. Google Play disappeared but can easily be installed through the Huawei app store app.
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So far so good although I am still waiting for the unlock code from Huawei.
My X2 came with Google Play pre-installed and English language.
I did a factory reset and then I could choose whatever language I required. Google Play disappeared but can easily be installed through the Huawei app store app.
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Thanks for the feedback. Couple of questions for you:
Does the back of the device say "Huawei" or "Honor"? I've seen different versions and I'm not sure what the difference is.
Also, was the phone not unlocked when you received it? It won't work with your local SIM without getting a code from Huawei?
Would it be possible for you to take some screenshots of the web browser in portrait and landscape mode, for us to get an idea of how different the screen real estate is compared to normal-sized phones? A screenshot of something like GMail or MS Word would be great too, if possible.
The back of the phone says Honor.
The phone is SIM unlocked. I meant the code for unlocking the bootloader.
I don't use the stock browser but Chrome.
There is a setting called Application Display effect where you can force apps to shrink. You can set this globally or per app.
For example if you enable this for Flipboard it will open in tablet mode.
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Does the back of the device say "Huawei" or "Honor"? I've seen different versions and I'm not sure what the difference is.
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Honor is just the name used for the Mediapad X2 in China. So if you have a version with Honor on the back, its the "Chinese" ( 03 ) version. From technical specs the only real difference between the 3 version is a differences in the LTE frequency support.
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Also, was the phone not unlocked when you received it? It won't work with your local SIM without getting a code from Huawei?
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The code that people are requesting is the ability to access the bootloader so they can run custom roms on it. In simple terms Huawei sends you the ability to root the entire device so you can run anything you want on it. Unlike plenty of other phone's where you need to do tricks or use bugs to get complete access.
aniym said:
Would it be possible for you to take some screenshots of the web browser in portrait and landscape mode, for us to get an idea of how different the screen real estate is compared to normal-sized phones? A screenshot of something like GMail or MS Word would be great too, if possible.
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A quick way to compare is to look up the X1, where there are more examples out from. The X2 is technically just a X1 with a upgraded SOC. All the other components are the same. The upgrade fixes the only negative thing about the X1 ( the "slow(er)" and outdated A9 cores ).
For comparing to other phone's use this tool:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/si...iaPad-X1,Sony-Xperia-Z-Ultra/phones/8427,7883
Try the "VIEW LAYERED" option at the bottom to compare screen sizes.
If you want i can post tomorrow or Friday a few pictures comparing the Sony Z Ultra vs the X2. My X2 is going to be delivered tomorrow and i still have my ZU for a few more days.

First update from Vivo

Hello Nex-Fans,
Vivo has announced the first OS update for our device which improves the overall, the game, camera and fingerprintscanner performance.
Source:
Gizchina
Thanks! I suppose we will get that automatically (when checked in update settings), but thanks anyway for notifying it here.
Despiter updates(there's even newer update than those at first page) the underscreen display scanner remain problematic according to fresh reviews from android authority.
https://www.androidauthority.com/vivo-nex-review-875140/
Hopping retail unit perfom better.
Saw many reviews and tests on YouTube and nobody has mentioned such problems with the Fingerprintscanner. I think this will be a "Pre-Release-Device" problem.
paatha13 said:
Despiter updates(there's even newer update than those at first page) the underscreen display scanner remain problematic according to fresh reviews from android authority.
https://www.androidauthority.com/vivo-nex-review-875140/
Hopping retail unit perfom better.
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Damn that's a really scathing review especially re. the software and OS. Makes me kind of disinterested tbh, because the UX sounds like a ****ing hassle
I'm not so negative ... In my opinion it's a very early stage of the device and i think some points are related to the Pre-Release-Device he has. On the software side i think it's only a question of time until there are some other options.
I have a Zuk Z2 Pro and know what i'm talking about. The ZUI interface was only crap but now it's running AOSP Android 8.1 and i'm really really happy with the device. It's better then my S8 was.
Yes but the kicker is as always, does the bootloader get unlocked... I don't know about Vivo and their practices on this.
I actually received my second update on my Nex already... and while the fingerprint reader can be finicky it has worked well (one thing that helped was adding both thumbs 2times)
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I actually received my second update on my Nex already... and while the fingerprint reader can be finicky it has worked well (one thing that helped was adding both thumbs 2times)
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I got the update a day or two ago as well.....
Any idea (translation) of what it actually encompassed?
only thing i have noticed a improvement on is the Fingerprint reader(seems much more consistent) , the camera seems to focus better and give slightly better results. Also the three bars at the bottom of the home screen are at the absolute bottom now and much wider.
MixEvo said:
only thing i have noticed a improvement on is the Fingerprint reader(seems much more consistent) , the camera seems to focus better and give slightly better results. Also the three bars at the bottom of the home screen are at the absolute bottom now and much wider.
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THX!....
After you posted this,I decided to take a look in the Settings > System Update & found the update notes in English (probably translated to whatever default language you choose) & pretty much line-up with your observations/usage:
The notes may have been available in the previous updates,but,I didn't notice the little arrow to click on to read the notes (probably there all along)......
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THX!....
After you posted this,I decided to take a look in the Settings > System Update & found the update notes in English (probably translated to whatever default language you choose) & pretty much line-up with your observations/usage:
The notes may have been available in the previous updates,but,I didn't notice the little arrow to click on to read the notes (probably there all along)......
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haha yeah the arrow has been there to check the changelog but the improvements they claim are actually noticable to me at least ?
FunTouch OS is the only thing that's keeping me from buying this phone... Any thoughts on the overall phone functionality from people that have it? I currently own a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and love it except for the selfie camera being on the bottom of my screen. My main thing would be to be able to get the Play Store and use Bluetooth with my car audio system... Any thoughts appreciated ?
tacopicante123 said:
FunTouch OS is the only thing that's keeping me from buying this phone... Any thoughts on the overall phone functionality from people that have it? I currently own a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and love it except for the selfie camera being on the bottom of my screen. My main thing would be to be able to get the Play Store and use Bluetooth with my car audio system... Any thoughts appreciated
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I might be having one serious BLONDE MOMENT :laugh: ,but,I can't seem to find how to make the YouTube app play by default,from links in email/texts/etc.....
Again,it could just be me,the settings on this phone are convoluted,makes Huawei & Xiaomi look clean & simple by comparison.......
So,in the meantime,I'm using this default picker app to help out:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aboutmycode.betteropenwith&hl=en_US
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I might be having one serious BLONDE MOMENT [emoji23] ,but,I can't seem to find how to make the YouTube app play by default,from links in email/texts/etc.....
Again,it could just be me,the settings on this phone are convoluted,makes Huawei & Xiaomi look clean & simple by comparison.......
So,in the meantime,I'm using this default picker app to help out:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aboutmycode.betteropenwith&hl=en_US
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Does YouTube Vanced non root version works on Vivo Nex or not.
Have you tried it?
On my OP5T works both version(root or not root )as well 6 months now
https://vanced.azurewebsites.net/APKs?type=NONROOT
Thanks
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Does YouTube Vanced non root version works on Vivo Nex or not.
Have you tried it?
On my OP5T works both version(root or not root )as well 6 months now
https://vanced.azurewebsites.net/APKs?type=NONROOT
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Yeah, it works, but, as stated on the site, no Micro G, no log in......
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Yeah, it works, but, as stated on the site, no Micro G, no log in......
Sent from my vivo NEX S using XDA Labs
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Installing the micro g file from above link doesn’t work??
I used 0.2.4-105 version from above link and always works great.
You can try both of them providing.
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Installing the micro g file from above link doesn’t work??
I used 0.2.4-105 version from above link and always works great.
You can try both of them providing.
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Just loaded up no root Micro G, good to go, signed-in successfully.
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Just loaded up no root Micro G, good to go, signed-in successfully.
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Ok well done one less trouble with Funtouch OS hahahaha.
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tacopicante123 said:
FunTouch OS is the only thing that's keeping me from buying this phone... Any thoughts on the overall phone functionality from people that have it? I currently own a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and love it except for the selfie camera being on the bottom of my screen. My main thing would be to be able to get the Play Store and use Bluetooth with my car audio system... Any thoughts appreciated
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I go back and forth seemingly daily. I lust for the hardware, it is to me the next step on the path to OLED in-display cameras, but that bizarre Android iOS clone nonsense they have going on is pushing me away. Funtouch sounds like a waking nightmare.
I currently have a Mi Mix 2, and already the rumor mill is in full swing re. the Mix 3. Google Mi Mix 3 and check out some early leaks, they are rumored to follow the Nex style. Admitted MIUI is not all that great either, but at least Xiaomi is a bit more dev friendly on releasing the kernels etc. And sorry for the hijack

Bought the Magic 2

hey guys yesterday i bought this phone, and today i saw an artivle that the phone will not come to europe because of the AI. Some functions only work in china.
Do you guys think that it will influence the phone experiance?
For me one of the unique things i want the ai is for pics.
Does someone of you has already the phone?
valerio.tosti said:
hey guys yesterday i bought this phone, and today i saw an artivle that the phone will not come to europe because of the AI. Some functions only work in china.
Do you guys think that it will influence the phone experiance?
For me one of the unique things i want the ai is for pics.
Does someone of you has already the phone?
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What article did you read, a link would be useful?
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What article did you read, a link would be useful?
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https://www.frandroid.com/marques/honor/546613_honor-magic-2-prise-en-main
https://www.google.lu/amp/s/www.mobiflip.de/honor-magic-2-deutschland/amp/
They are in french and german.
valerio.tosti said:
hey guys yesterday i bought this phone, and today i saw an artivle that the phone will not come to europe because of the AI. Some functions only work in china.
Do you guys think that it will influence the phone experiance?
For me one of the unique things i want the ai is for pics.
Does someone of you has already the phone?
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The camera AI function is enabled by default on my phone (and I setup the phone on non China region which is recommended if you want Google Play out of the box).
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The camera AI function is enabled by default on my phone (and I setup the phone on non China region which is recommended if you want Google Play out of the box).
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Ok thanks. So what are the other ai functions they talking about
Probably yoyo the personal assistant.
I have the phone also. I'm hopeful that yoyo will be released in English, otherwise I think I'd have preferred the p20 pro
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I have the phone also. I'm hopeful that yoyo will be released in English, otherwise I think I'd have preferred the p20 pro
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Camera ?
Speaker ?
Good or average?
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rowihel2012 said:
Camera ?
Speaker ?
Good or average?
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The camera is good but not great. It will work well for most people. The wide angle is nice and some of the AR features are fun to play with.
The speakers are probably less than you would like. They aren't bad for YouTube but not loud if you want music in a less quiet environment.
I'll gladly try to answer any other questions.
Hey
How is netflix on it, does it support HD or even HDR content and what about other players like amazon video/youtube?
Is the button used for Yoyo reconfigurable? or just a waste of a button?

P40 pro vs S20+ 5G

The P40 pro got in multiple scenarios the better camera, the S20+ in some others. I do hate the vibrant colors, but safety features like safetynet are useful especially with some banking apps. Also widevine l3 is used. Does anyone know or it can run Netflix in fullhd with a widevine L1 patch? If this is the case we might also be able to patch Disney plus.
The widevine and safety are things stopping me from buying the P40 pro. Chromecast is handy, but I can live without it.
S20+ 5G arriving tomorrow so I'll think over it or I should return it or not. For normal situaties without harsh lightning the S20+ would be an okay camera, and as far as I know it would probably be better than the P30 pro.
Really only you can decide this.
wulsic said:
The P40 pro got in multiple scenarios the better camera, the S20+ in some others. I do hate the vibrant colors, but safety features like safetynet are useful especially with some banking apps. Also widevine l3 is used. Does anyone know or it can run Netflix in fullhd with a widevine L1 patch? If this is the case we might also be able to patch Disney plus.
The widevine and safety are things stopping me from buying the P40 pro. Chromecast is handy, but I can live without it.
S20+ 5G arriving tomorrow so I'll think over it or I should return it or not. For normal situaties without harsh lightning the S20+ would be an okay camera, and as far as I know it would probably be better than the P30 pro.
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you should just ask yourself if which is important for you if camera then p40 pro
if you heavily rely on google services and you dont have plans on finding alternative apps for it ''see the guide section on my comprehensive list of alternatives for google apps" then go for s20+ but if your only option is exynos then you may regret it because impossible you havent heard how bad exynos is on s20 compared to SD
netflix latest apk works currently but hd? it needs a subscription so you can use so havent heard any news who tried it. about banking apps you will need to ask an owner of p40 pro who resides on the same country you are like for example me on middle east all our banks is supported already here. disney+ no idea yet
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xnostra said:
you should just ask yourself if which is important for you if camera then p40 pro
if you heavily rely on google services and you dont have plans on finding alternative apps for it ''see the guide section on my comprehensive list of alternatives for google apps" then go for s20+ but if your only option is exynos then you may regret it because impossible you havent heard how bad exynos is on s20 compared to SD
netflix latest apk works currently but hd? it needs a subscription so you can use so havent heard any news who tried it. about banking apps you will need to ask an owner of p40 pro who resides on the same country you are like for example me on middle east all our banks is supported already here. disney+ no idea yet
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Do you perhaps know if tap & pay works out of the box? I will try the phone and see what happens. Thankyou for the feedback.
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Do you perhaps know if tap & pay works out of the box? I will try the phone and see what happens. Thankyou for the feedback.
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tap & pay? you mean google pay? with or without gms it will never work.
Does anyone make phone calls? I gues not much
Still I have testet P40 Pro and S20+. I have to say P40 Pro is a way superior here. And I do not speak super condition. I often drive in unpopulated area, bad coverage.... P40 Pro is a clear winner here.
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tap & pay? you mean google pay? with or without gms it will never work.
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I actually meant HCE https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/nfc/hce. So that you can use any banking app and emulate your credit card for example with it.
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Does anyone make phone calls? I gues not much
Still I have testet P40 Pro and S20+. I have to say P40 Pro is a way superior here. And I do not speak super condition. I often drive in unpopulated area, bad coverage.... P40 Pro is a clear winner here.
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Do you mean bad coverage for the S20+ and not for the P40 Pro? I've also seen dual band GPS on the spec sheet. The hardware sounds very interesting. How about the battery life difference? My S20+ still has to get used to my usage to be optimized, but for now I only have like 4 hours SoT. This is pretty bad compared to my previous phone the LG G7 ThinQ. It's almost the same actually. Any more experiences comparing the 2 devices? I sadly couldn't get the 2 devices at the same time to compare them myself.:crying:
For the price itself I'm still comparing the phones to other devices like the P30 Pro since except for the colors and the better night recording and the 90Hz there isn't much of a difference. Probably slightly better mic and speakers. But or the difference is worth around 500 euro's more is debatable. If the bootloader could be unlocked it would've been an easier choice.
whosetheboss in youtube already made a battery comparison between the flagship currently in the market including p40,oneplus8,s20ltra,11promax do take note the s20 there is snapdragon, your sot could be bad because you have exynos, if you do have exynos just upgrade to another phone your just getting scammed by samsung.

Question International ROM for XIAOXIN PAD PRO 2021 unlikely?

All the news this week is referring to a Snapdragon 888 and 8Gb ram P12 Pro. Do we think the 870 2021 Xiaoxin will ever receive an International ROM?
I've got one in the mail and thinking I may have made a big mistake. Its main use will be netflix and Disney+ and I wanting to take advantage of Dolby Vision.
Can't say for sure about Disney+, but I have no issue playing Netflix Videos on Full HD downloaded from Play Store.
In case you're wondering, I installed Play Store with an APK downloaded from APK Mirror and it seems to work out of the box.
The only thing i didn't like about the tablet is it disables notification for each app by default and set battery optimization option on by default on newly installed app which could affect some things like notifications. Other than that, this tablet is a satisfying multimedia powerhouse
Edit: Also i set Dolby option to "Movie" and it sounds wonderful.
Well this is promising. Is yours the 2021 version? Did you update any software and just use out of the box?
Does it have widevine 1? I've seen reports of it dropping back to 3?
I guess you have to have the ultra subscription (which you may not have) but did you notice if Netflix offers Dolby Vision?
I'll be steaming most my content via plex so as long as that works well I guess it won't be a total loss if Disney+ and Prime aren't in FHD HDR.
I have Plex, Tubi, Locast, Peacock and Kodi on mine and no issues with any of them. This is the best tablet I have ever owned. Even Starmaker (Karaoke app) works well with Bluetooth headset.
Great news. Mine arrives next week I'll report back.
Looking forward on catching up on some of the latest series from the comfort of my bed!!
Also going to give moonlight a go to try and game stream my pc from downstairs.
I've got mesh WiFi-6 so hopefully it'll work well.
Hi!!!
i have an issue. i got on a spending spree and ordered the tablet. first of all it is not as bright as i expected and i paid lot for it (due to VAT) i have GOOGLE PLAY
but here is my problem?
how to check for HDR?
NETFLIX doesn't support HDR for this tablet (only for p11 pro...)
should i get prime video?
do you have HDR?
If you updated via the update when you first boot you've lost widevine 1. Download DRM off the play store and it'll tell you your current level (it's 1 out of the box).
Out the box the tablet does FHD on Netflix with no HDR as you say. Prime video is SD and a waste of time.
Just got to hope for an international ROM or else you've got a great tablet which is limited by its software.
I'm doing everything via plex and its working well.
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If you updated via the update when you first boot you've lost widevine 1. Download DRM off the play store and it'll tell you your current level (it's 1 out of the box).
Out the box the tablet does FHD on Netflix with no HDR as you say. Prime video is SD and a waste of time.
Just got to hope for an international ROM or else you've got a great tablet which is limited by its software.
I'm doing everything via plex and its working well.
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i rather had bought the p11 pro which was 100 euros cheaper and had lte... i feel so stupid
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i rather had bought the p11 pro which was 100 euros cheaper and had lte... i feel so stupid
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I'm sort of in the same boat. If you're just using it for media the P11 Pro has the better software.
However if we get a proper international release and firmware it'll be worth it still.
The P12 Pro talk at the moment referees to a Snapdragon 888 processor so I'm not holding my breath.
I'm lucky really despite having amazon prime, disney+ and Netflix subs I'm having to torrent the Dolby Vision versions of the stuff I want to watch to my plex. It's a ball ache having to do it, but at least I've not wasted my money.
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I'm sort of in the same boat. If you're just using it for media the P11 Pro has the better software.
However if we get a proper international release and firmware it'll be worth it still.
The P12 Pro talk at the moment referees to a Snapdragon 888 processor so I'm not holding my breath.
I'm lucky really despite having amazon prime, disney+ and Netflix subs I'm having to torrent the Dolby Vision versions of the stuff I want to watch to my plex. It's a ball ache having to do it, but at least I've not wasted my money.
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i found out the hard way. i got it fot he better screen but it seems i misfired.
Have you also noticed how trash the low brightness uniformity is? greys in particular are horrendous.
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Have you also noticed how trash the low brightness uniformity is? greys in particular are horrendous.
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i expected at least better brightness.
if i had gotten the p11 pro i would have saved 200 euros........... + vat
I must have got lucky as I didn't have to pay any import charges so it cost me £350 delivered which is a very good price for the hardware.
Shame there's not a bigger scene on here supporting custom roms etc.
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I must have got lucky as I didn't have to pay any import charges so it cost me £350 delivered which is a very good price for the hardware.
Shame there's not a bigger scene on here supporting custom roms etc.
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i paid 400 euros + 150 for import charges... the p11 pro would have been 420 total...
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i paid 400 euros + 150 for import charges... the p11 pro would have been 420 total...
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Where did you get it from? Mine was from Giztop but I paid for express shipping.
I also bought mine from Giztop, £435 delivered, including the keyboard case.. pretty good deal if you ask me.
Havent updated base firmware to avoid losing the widevine L1 as everyone is referencing.. but am also hoping we eventually get a global rom for it.
I've done more digging on this. I've updated and still have widevine level 1.
Pretty happy with it overall. One stuck pixel though
If an international rom doesn't come out I'm possibly going to pick up an S7+ second hand when their new one launches.
so you could order this with international rom?
https://www.reddit.com/r/androidtablets/comments/kv1ewb
Yeah that's the 2020 version. We're talking about the 2021 version which does not have an international version.

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