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Help in choosing from 3 devices and 2 OS

Hi,
Currently have an Axim X51v with WM6.1 and want to replace it with a Smartphone. I'm on Sprint and I narrowed my search down to 1) Touch Pro 2 with WM6.1, 2) HTC Hero 3) Samsung Moment, both with Android.
TP2 would give me a familiar OS and stylus. It's also going to cost $100 more, and I am concerned with battery life and speed - it's got a slightly slower processor than Axim. Not sure if the screen is bright enough in direct sunlight - Axim's isn't. If I get it I woud probably get rid of TouchFlo3D and install iPhoneToday, PocketBreeze, Calligrapher and FTouchSL.
OTOH I have no idea about Android, I'm concerned that I won't be able to find a decent replacement to ListPro, Excel or PocketInformant, and syncing data may be difficult (my employer blocks Google Docs for security reasons).
So can someone educate me on what can I expect moving from WM to Android, and if either Android device is faster or otherwise better than TP2 ?

Ummagumma said:
Hi,
Currently have an Axim X51v with WM6.1 and want to replace it with a Smartphone. I'm on Sprint and I narrowed my search down to 1) Touch Pro 2 with WM6.1, 2) HTC Hero 3) Samsung Moment, both with Android.
TP2 would give me a familiar OS and stylus. It's also going to cost $100 more, and I am concerned with battery life and speed - it's got a slightly slower processor than Axim. Not sure if the screen is bright enough in direct sunlight - Axim's isn't. If I get it I woud probably get rid of TouchFlo3D and install iPhoneToday, PocketBreeze, Calligrapher and FTouchSL.
OTOH I have no idea about Android, I'm concerned that I won't be able to find a decent replacement to ListPro, Excel or PocketInformant, and syncing data may be difficult (my employer blocks Google Docs for security reasons).
So can someone educate me on what can I expect moving from WM to Android, and if either Android device is faster or otherwise better than TP2 ?
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Go for the Samsung moment! windows mobile on tp2 swallows! It lags too much and the keyboard sucks unless you have skype the battery life is ok so is the screen. But the proccessor SUCKS! i would know from experience. it was rooted and would lag even with 6.1!
Plus android has alot more apps and flash player. And the moment has a keyboard which is a plus. The hero sense lags it at times so i wouldnt recommend it

I basically have 2 concerns - losing a stylus and thus the ability to take handwritten notes, and losing ability to move around documents without having to jump through hoops.
Also, have a question regarding multimedia capabilities - how would you rate Moment's ability to play MP3s (sound quality)

Ummagumma said:
I basically have 2 concerns - losing a stylus and thus the ability to take handwritten notes, and losing ability to move around documents without having to jump through hoops.
Also, have a question regarding multimedia capabilities - how would you rate Moment's ability to play MP3s (sound quality)
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Qualitys good i played with one when i stayed at my friends house. Im not gonna lie the android music player has thee worst graphical UI though. Unless you get the htc music app running your stuck with a lame player. If you dont find it loud enough root it and install audio hack. Its 1.99 i think but its well worth it. If you get the hero root it too and if it gets slow use set cpu its free here but it costs on the android market. Let me know when you decide

Alex530 said:
Qualitys good i played with one when i stayed at my friends house. Im not gonna lie the android music player has thee worst graphical UI though. Unless you get the htc music app running your stuck with a lame player. If you dont find it loud enough root it and install audio hack. Its 1.99 i think but its well worth it. If you get the hero root it too and if it gets slow use set cpu its free here but it costs on the android market. Let me know when you decide
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OK
Any votes for the Touch Pro 2 ?

Ummagumma said:
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Any votes for the Touch Pro 2 ?
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YES! If you need the android apps, you can get them on the TP2, the keyboard is the best on any device i have ever tried and it isn't laggy, the sprint firmware can be upgraded to a customROM over at PPCGeeks and here in the RhodW forum
If you do want Android native, i would get the Evo 4G, not the hero or the Moment. If i lived in th US i would get one, but i'm in the UK
I hope you make the right choice
Good luck

OK, thanks both of you guys for creating an utter confusion.
I do a lot of work related stuff on my Axim and WinMob with all its limitations has many tools for that. The main ones for me would be PhatPad for notetaking with stylus (like having a book of Sticky notes with you at all times), Excel, ListPro for information gathering, PocketInformant and Pocket Breeze for scheduling, and so on. Going with TouchPro2 I'd retain all of these tools. But then it's 2x more expensive, and possibly slow.
Samsung Moment seems to be snappier, Android is from what I heard more fun to use, and I save some bucks. OTOH would I still be able to do all the stuff I did on WM with it ? Who knows.. in the end I'm afraid it's going to be a coin toss.
Would it be a true statement that Android on Moment is faster, smoother and has longer battery life ? Also, what about reliability - I've had 2 phones from Samsung, one was great, another one piece of junk.

Yee!
Sorry bout that haha. But the tp2 sucks trust me im a previous owner and i spl unlocked it. After every rom id try it start to lag sometimes needing a reset. For some reason wm is like running hero rom on the g1. Flies at first but it sucks after a while. And the tp2 keyboard is aight. I personally like smaller keyboaRDS. And the optical trackball and notifications bar is better on the moment but like the other user. The evo 4g is key to success! HAha

[Q] Can you all point me to a Reliable Fast and Supported Tablet?

So after the past week or so i have done some casual research. Looking thru various sites getting some not so reliable feedback i figured i would just ask at the top.... And i dont know why i didnt in the first place..
I am looking to get a Android Tablet when taxes come. Something not to expensive but not a cheap piece of junk either.
I am looking for something reliable, fast good graphics, a decent camera if possible certianly gps, wifi, bluetooth. I would like to dock it in my car for its Gps potential, and for movies and certianly its music capabilities (like power amp) and pandora last fm ect. I figured i would tether it to my Droid 2, and no i wont be watching movies on it thats more for my wife, friends ect.
I would defenatly want it to have the android market on it, wether i have to put it on there myself or if it was stock. I want to be able to play games like angry bird or whatever. Not just simple low end games but the potentintal to play anything i might want to..
And lastley i would like something that defenatly has some community backbone to it. Something that has been rooted, that people know and i can get reliable support on. I dont want to be running 1.6 on it it has to be like 2.0 or 2.2 and i can upgrade it. Something that runs really smoothly and has at least one decent rom.
I see some of these people who bought cheap tablets off ebay from Hong Kong or whatever and there having to scour the net just to find out what excatly it is called.. I dont really wana do that lol.
If i can find it locally great! If i got to order it off the net then so be it. I just want something that is open, reliale, smooth, fast and has some support behind it...
Sorry if this is the wrong section i looked for a overall tablet form but couldnt find one on XDA and i didnt want to post in every forum. If you have anylinks or even one u are thinking about buying like a link let me know id love to check it out!
Thanks Everyone!

Dude, get a NookColor! $249, supported in ROM Manager, and I'm sure soon to have full ROMs released..
It doesn't have a camera (but your Droid 2 does...) so that might be a deal breaker. It's not a tablet, it's an e-reader, but it's a neat little thing. I can't wait to see the development take off.
Other than that, the Motorola Xoom looks promising, but it's currently unreleased.
-pd

I would recommend the nook Color as well except for the fact that it is lacking a GPS. Therefore it does not fit into the car model. I have one for my son and it is a nice device.

The gps is kind of a nessisity for me, i could give up the camera but im stuck with the gps. But the nook or nook color is out for me. I see it as lacking later on because of its processor and it wasent built to be a tablet. I want something that will ride out for a few years if possible. It needs a 1 ghz prosessor and sufficent ram. And i got to have 2.2+ on it. And 7 inch minumum. Thank you for the suggestion thus far though

Consider the Archos 101 or 70.
Pretty sure it has everything.
There is a forum for it here too.

as far as I know no tablet meets your demands ( 1ghz/2.2/lotso ram/etc) probably best shot at the moment is a flytouch II from lightinthebox ...
10", decent rom support coming together, inbuilt gps, 2 cardslots for storage, android 2.1 with kernel 2.6.32.9 once you upgrade/update it to v1568 firmware.
another OEM provider promised 2.2 was going to be out last weekend but havent seen anything filtering out as of yet

chachi said:
as far as I know no tablet meets your demands ( 1ghz/2.2/lotso ram/etc) probably best shot at the moment is a flytouch II from lightinthebox ...
10", decent rom support coming together, inbuilt gps, 2 cardslots for storage, android 2.1 with kernel 2.6.32.9 once you upgrade/update it to v1568 firmware.
another OEM provider promised 2.2 was going to be out last weekend but havent seen anything filtering out as of yet
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Actually, Archos already has 2.2 with 1ghz
http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_101it/specs.html?country=ca&lang=en
The RAM is not listed on that page but it would be easy to find out.
I'm just stepping out.
And there seems to be a GPS solution here http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=37910

Sry... what I meant was I want to run the most uptodate firmware I can so im kosher with 2.1 what im hoping to avoid is where I have seen a lot of them running 1.6. I've been thinking about archos but I just haven't heardb from anyone who ones a archos or a flytouch.. I would defenatly like to hear experiences... thanks again everyone
Sent from my DROID2 using Tapatalk

Also and i forgot to mention it.. It has to have a Capacitive and Multitouch screen like my Droid X or Droid 2.... Does that FlyTouch have that? cause i cant seem to find any information pertaining to that.

no flytouch2 is not multitouch but otherwise i am more than happy with mine, best €130 ish i've ever spent

[Q] Bluestacks Opinions?? Other options?

I have to get a new Windows laptop for my job. In an effort to use only one device (two if I count my phone), I'd like to figure out a way to use my Android apps that I have spent considerable time adding data to, etc..., to say nothing of the money I have spent on them. I'm considering a combo laptop/touchscreen/tablet device, but my question is....has anyone actually tried the options such as Bluestacks to use their Android apps on their Windows device? If the implementation stinks I will plan on keeping my current Android tablet and going low budget on the Windows laptop....if it might work even half way decently, I will spend more and get a decent laptop/tablet combo....anyone have any opinions about it?
Thanks!
Lisa

ScrapHappy said:
I have to get a new Windows laptop for my job. In an effort to use only one device (two if I count my phone), I'd like to figure out a way to use my Android apps that I have spent considerable time adding data to, etc..., to say nothing of the money I have spent on them. I'm considering a combo laptop/touchscreen/tablet device, but my question is....has anyone actually tried the options such as Bluestacks to use their Android apps on their Windows device? If the implementation stinks I will plan on keeping my current Android tablet and going low budget on the Windows laptop....if it might work even half way decently, I will spend more and get a decent laptop/tablet combo....anyone have any opinions about it?
Thanks!
Lisa
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Anyone out there who has needed to combine Android and Windows?

ScrapHappy said:
Anyone out there who has needed to combine Android and Windows?
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Hi Lisa,
I think I can help you with your problem. I'm currently in possession of what may arguably be the best windows tablet - the Surface Pro 2.
To my opinion, the idea of a combo laptop/touchscreen/tablet in one device is excellent, and running android apps on windows is also not bad. However, in reality, with my core i5, I can only manage to run some less complex and demanding apps. Bluestack is constantly unresponsive and the total experience is horrible. However, you may consider the two points:
- Bluestack is in beta: So in the future with android kirkat coming, we may see an improve in performance.
- Bluestack is emulation: And in emulation, the stronger the host machine, the better. So with a core i7, things might be different.
Br,

[Q] Has anyone tried this with their Note Pro?

I've found this on Youtube and it was used for another tablet. Apparently , it installs Windows 8 on an Android tablet and someone could back up the Android partition in case said person wanted to get back to Android.
http://changemysoftware.org/cms8edition.php
Has anyone tried this on their Note Pros yet?

I am not enthused about win 8 on any platform.

Bystorm said:
I've found this on Youtube and it was used for another tablet. Apparently , it installs Windows 8 on an Android tablet and someone could back up the Android partition in case said person wanted to get back to Android.
http://changemysoftware.org/cms8edition.php
Has anyone tried this on their Note Pros yet?
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... didn't even know it was around... well, maybe I'm being unneedfully suspicious, but there's lots about this ( I watched the video ) that doesn't quite work...
... how Windows 8 is running on whatever chipset is in his tablet escapes me. My gut instinct is to say it's in some sort of virtualized container, but ...
... I noticed at the end of the video there was virtually no demonstration of how it performed. did the touch screen work? Was it laggy?
... anytime I'm just clicking away and letting software from who knows where just fly on to my device, well, I need to have my head examined.
It would be super cool if this was legit and produced a functional way to swap between OS's; I'm just not buying it for now based on what the site and video is showing.

I have an android tablet to avoid windows tablets... Pretty much zero reason to use Windows short of office.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-P907A using XDA Free mobile app

Echo the opinions of others when I say I have absolutely no desire to ever own a windows tablet.
The website in question though just screams STAY AWAY to me. It's clean . . too clean . . there's no testimonials, no compatibility lists, and no support FAQs or forums of any kind to allow one to see a history of testing and interaction with users. For me, support is often a big deal and that should especially be true for a product such as this where you're potentially going to softbrick your device when you repartition it. While I'm sure there would be a way to get back to stock I'm not the least bit interested in finding out . .

rodnok1 said:
I have an android tablet to avoid windows tablets... Pretty much zero reason to use Windows short of office.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-P907A using XDA Free mobile app
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I'm between Android and Mac/iOS myself. Wherever the art geared tech flows, I follow, but that's just me. I don't see the point of Windows tablets myself, but if factors changed, I'd jump only with the other options had nothing to offer me anymore.
Don't even need Office anymore. Just get Libreoffice, which got a heavy UI overhaul recently. I just found it as a curiosity. I still remember running a virtual machine of 2000 on the Note 10.1 , and it was slow as can be. I'm not sure how well virtual machines run on the Note Pro, but I doubt anything beyond XP would run well.
angus454 said:
... didn't even know it was around... well, maybe I'm being unneedfully suspicious, but there's lots about this ( I watched the video ) that doesn't quite work...
... how Windows 8 is running on whatever chipset is in his tablet escapes me. My gut instinct is to say it's in some sort of virtualized container, but ...
... I noticed at the end of the video there was virtually no demonstration of how it performed. did the touch screen work? Was it laggy?
... anytime I'm just clicking away and letting software from who knows where just fly on to my device, well, I need to have my head examined.
It would be super cool if this was legit and produced a functional way to swap between OS's; I'm just not buying it for now based on what the site and video is showing.
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I agree with all your points. I found the site and a lack of an actual forum to navigate to be unfortunate, because I'd like to experiment with the software. I might sacrifice my outdated Captivate to see how this works.

That website is completely fake. DO NOT USE.
We've discussed changemysoftware.org several times before on XDA. It's fake.

Will pay someone up to 200 usd to fix an audio problem on my galaxy tab 8.9

my galaxy tab 8.9 china model wasnt updated to android 4.0.4. the last update it received is android 3.2 so I flashed the firmware of global tab 8.9 which received android 4.0.4. it boots up fine and works great except for the sound and a few minor issues like no lockscreen and video recording doesnt work " which I suspect dude to sound problem "
anyways, if someone here believes that they are up for the task and could pull it off, i will pay you handsomely

The Invizible said:
my galaxy tab 8.9 china model wasnt updated to android 4.0.4. the last update it received is android 3.2 so I flashed the firmware of global tab 8.9 which received android 4.0.4. it boots up fine and works great except for the sound and a few minor issues like no lockscreen and video recording doesnt work " which I suspect dude to sound problem "
anyways, if someone here believes that they are up for the task and could pull it off, i will pay you handsomely.
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Instead of spending 200 USD to repair this device, why not use the 200 USD to buy a newer, more up to date tablet? It will perform much better than your old device and won't have the compatibility issues that your old tablet will definitely have with today's apps. Even if you get your old tablet to function perfectly with its software, it isn't worth it, the operating system is too old and the hardware is not viable for use with modern hardware/software. Even if you found a way to update the device to a more modern android version, the device will be very slow, glitchy, will freeze and/or randomly reboot when the hardware struggles to keep up with the software.
A decent used tablet for 200 USD is your best option.

Droidriven said:
Instead of spending 200 USD to repair this device, why not use the 200 USD to buy a newer, more up to date tablet? It will perform much better than your old device and won't have the compatibility issues that your old tablet will definitely have with today's apps. Even if you get your old tablet to function perfectly with its software, it isn't worth it, the operating system is too old and the hardware is not viable for use with modern hardware/software.
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yes I agree. you make very good points but It's not only one single tablet. let's just say that I have a whole lot of them and I'm willing to spend even than 200 USD to get the sound problem fixed. I can take logs and follow instructions..I just need to work with someone knowledgeable enough to diagnose and then patch the issue

The Invizible said:
yes I agree. you make very good points but It's not only one single tablet. let's just say that I have a whole lot of them and I'm willing to spend even than 200 USD to get the sound problem fixed. I can take logs and follow instructions..I just need to work with someone knowledgeable enough to diagnose and then patch the issue
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The fact that you have many of them makes it that much more of a waste of time. To put all that effort into repairing devices that are no longer viable for use with today's technology.