I have to get a new Windows laptop for my job. In an effort to use only one device (two if I count my phone), I'd like to figure out a way to use my Android apps that I have spent considerable time adding data to, etc..., to say nothing of the money I have spent on them. I'm considering a combo laptop/touchscreen/tablet device, but my question is....has anyone actually tried the options such as Bluestacks to use their Android apps on their Windows device? If the implementation stinks I will plan on keeping my current Android tablet and going low budget on the Windows laptop....if it might work even half way decently, I will spend more and get a decent laptop/tablet combo....anyone have any opinions about it?
Thanks!
Lisa
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I have to get a new Windows laptop for my job. In an effort to use only one device (two if I count my phone), I'd like to figure out a way to use my Android apps that I have spent considerable time adding data to, etc..., to say nothing of the money I have spent on them. I'm considering a combo laptop/touchscreen/tablet device, but my question is....has anyone actually tried the options such as Bluestacks to use their Android apps on their Windows device? If the implementation stinks I will plan on keeping my current Android tablet and going low budget on the Windows laptop....if it might work even half way decently, I will spend more and get a decent laptop/tablet combo....anyone have any opinions about it?
Thanks!
Lisa
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Anyone out there who has needed to combine Android and Windows?
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Anyone out there who has needed to combine Android and Windows?
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Hi Lisa,
I think I can help you with your problem. I'm currently in possession of what may arguably be the best windows tablet - the Surface Pro 2.
To my opinion, the idea of a combo laptop/touchscreen/tablet in one device is excellent, and running android apps on windows is also not bad. However, in reality, with my core i5, I can only manage to run some less complex and demanding apps. Bluestack is constantly unresponsive and the total experience is horrible. However, you may consider the two points:
- Bluestack is in beta: So in the future with android kirkat coming, we may see an improve in performance.
- Bluestack is emulation: And in emulation, the stronger the host machine, the better. So with a core i7, things might be different.
Br,
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Hey is it just me or is the FUZE just slow and lags all the time? i flashed the rom and put in the ENERGY ROM but it's still slow sometimes, especially when I text but even in general functions.
Does the internal memory have anything to do with speed? Is it possible for me to transfer all my text messages to my microsd (and to save future ones on my microsd card)? Thanks!
I was looking at apps for touch pro using the live marketplace and other sources as well. Man there aren't too many good ones; i think windows probably as the worst app selection, which iphone being best and android second am I right? Can someone correct me on this? For instance, I was just trying to find an English to Chinese dictionary; i searched for hours and I finally came up with one decent dictionary. In comparison, I used my friend's Iphone to look for one and a ton just came up in a few minutes wtf. man I'm really getting frustrated with this phone lol; i thought it'd be really great but honestly now i'm kind of disappointed. i might even just get an iphone just because there's so much platform support for it. So many websites have apps specifically designed for iphone that it's really convenient...the same can't be said for htc =/.
Have a look at these Chinese Dictionaries:
http://pocketpc.mobisystems.com/product.html?p=2&l=1&pid=157&i=1
http://pocketpc.mobisystems.com/product.html?p=2&l=1&pid=255&i=1
http://pocketpc.mobisystems.com/product.html?p=2&l=1&pid=283&i=1
http://pocketpc.mobisystems.com/product.html?p=2&l=1&pid=308&i=1
http://www.lingvosoft.com/LingvoSoft-Chinese-Platinum-Pack/
http://www.gakusoft.com/kinghanzi.htm
http://www.declan-software.com/pocket_pc/chinese/index.htm#dictionary
http://www.hnhsoft.com/dictec
Laggy device ! I'm on standard latest 6.1 ROM & not having any real issues. Probably related to ROM, settings or installed software.
Windows Mobile is far more flexible than iphone ect but it does need more user knowledge to get the most out of it.
I already looked at those for the most part...I was just looking for free dictionaries lol. I don't want to pay for one because 1) I'd rather use my money on other things lol 2) if i reset the device, I'm not sure if I can reinstall it so that could be a waste of money.
I can't believe one of them is 200 dollars wtf lol.
Btw, I would think that the game support for Windows Mobile would be great because well it's PPC so I assumed games would be easily ported from PC. Man the games suck on PPC lol. I tried installing COD2...the controls were so bad I gave up. The only good games I've gotten are NFS and this game called Meon.
Hmm so you think that the device's hardware is laggy or is it something about my phone? Do phones get slower over time?
I think the lack of support for Windows Mobile compared to Iphone and Android is definitely one of the big problems. the latter two OSs are so much more user friendly and intuitive (although they have their own problems but I think the benefits outweigh the cons). If only Iphone had a slideout keyboard lol...
Really depends on what you use the device for in regards to applications, I have software related to engineering calculations that is only available to PPC platform plus I like the hackability of CE platform giving the ability to make things how you want them.
Games are a bit limited but you can find a few good ones & also a few good emulators for sega ect.
Support is good for the PPC but not so much in the average mobile users needs for games & gizmo apps.
Is there a way to save all my text messages onto my microsd card and access it from there instead of saving it on the internal memory?
A bit of background: I will be attending UCLA as a computer science student in the fall. I will be bringing my desktop with me, and am trying to decide between a laptop/netbook or the Transformer.
Would the transformer work in conjunction with the desktop, or will I need a full laptop.
Thanks.
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You should consider what you want to use this device for before you decide. As a CS major, you will certainly be doing quite a bit of programming, and you might want to prefer to use a full linux environment for this, depends largely on the program you have at UCLA. What you can consider is to get this device and using the splashtop program access your desktop to do your programming. However, you will want to consider whether or not you want to utilize the local processing power of your device. It would be far simpler to use a laptop/netbook for those purposes, rather than trying to find solutions with the tablet+dock. In the end, if you find that you will be using the device docked most of the time for school, then you should probably consider just getting a laptop/netbook. If the convenience of the tablet and media consumption is something you'd prefer, then get the transformer.
tl;dr, I consider the transformer+dock a fun/entertainment device. For CS based schoolwork, you would most likely want a laptop/netbook.
unless you wanted to focus on tablet development in your coursework...but that's not for another 2 years...
Hope that helps.
It helped a lot. Thank you.
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Keep in mind that you can use the Transformer's bundled remote desktop app and/or a terminal app to control your PC, and run stuff that way - assuming you can connect to your desktop from wherever you are.
I do agree with omguss, if you don't plan on using the device mostly for entertainment, get a netbook/laptop.
Sorry if this is hijacking your thread (ill start a new thread if you want) but just wondering if there is a good note taking apps for android?
There are two uses I can see being needed for me.
First I would need something to annotate on pdf's and powerpoints. I remember seeing an app that looked pretty solid for this so it should be good.
Secondly I would need an app that I can be typing with the keyboard, and then when needed draw in equations, graphs, pictures, whatever. Not really sure if there is something good for this.
As a programmer, I would suggest getting a full laptop for somebody majoring in CS. As much as I love the transformer, you cannot compile code on it. At least in my searching I have not found a single IDE meant to be run on Android (Lot's target Android, but none run on Android). More than likely, there will be several times that you want to do work away from your room. On the transformer, the only real way to do this will be remote desktop software. It's up to you whether you think the remote desktop software will be sufficient for this, but one other thing I would caution against is the small keyboard. It is far more comfortable (and efficient) to program on a full-size (or as near to full-size as possible) keyboard.
I don't know what type of program you are going into, but if you take any courses on 3d graphics you are almost certainly going to lose the ability to test your programs through a remote desktop connection.
I personally think that tablets are great in conjunction with a desktop. I plan to get rid of my netbook once I get the transformer. My only concern for you is that a tablet simply isn't a good tool for programming. If the hacker community manages to get ubuntu onto the transformer then the device will be an acceptable programming tool in my opinion; although, you will still lack a full size keyboard.
My advice to you is wait until mid-to-late summer. There is a slew of new tech toys coming out this summer, and almost anything you get now will be outdated by the time you start in the fall. By summer you will know if we managed to get Ubuntu on the transformer, AMD's Llano processor will be out on laptops, and Tegra 3 tablets may be just around the corner.
BongoBong said:
Sorry if this is hijacking your thread (ill start a new thread if you want) but just wondering if there is a good note taking apps for android?
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Don't need to hijack anything. Just look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980783
I'm a secondary school student, I have a HP DM1 (Not the Z ), runs 7 pro X64 + VS 2010 Pro + VS2008 Pro. Got a load of VM's for debugging ETC...
Windows is good for note taking to, Onenote is great.
Hope this helps
Badwolve1
good old days of using SSH + eMacs + X client, they all switched to windows in school?
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Don't need to hijack anything. Just look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980783
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Thanks, but I have already seen that thread and done some other looking up and the majority of discussion is whats the best handwriting app. They really don't mention how good it would be for mostly typing (understandable since most would be using the on screen keyboard).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039287&highlight=onenote
someone seriously needs to start porting some compilers to android..
many scripting languages are available through SL4A but most CS courses are taught with C/C++ or Java. I'd love to help out with this project but I just wouldn't know where to start
Just adding on to this, since I'm a student and also looking for a tablet solution.
I'd love:
1. Printing to my university printers. My university currently requires you install some software to use their printers. Mac and Windows versions available, no Linux, no Android.
2. Onenote would be awesome. I read that there was an iPhone version available? Android should be coing soon hopefully.
I would suggest a full laptop, and something with high resolution. Once your CS load picks up you'll need something you can work on in between or during classes. Android lacking compilers on the OS itself is the killer here, otherwise you are free to code all you want via text editors.
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I would suggest a full laptop, and something with high resolution. Once your CS load picks up you'll need something you can work on in between or during classes. Android lacking compilers on the OS itself is the killer here, otherwise you are free to code all you want via text editors.
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As a CS student myself I would agree with the above and add that in programming classes you will want all the screen real-estate you can get your hands on(17"+), a good amount of hard disk space, 4gb+ ram, and a good Virtual Machine program. Less important is video and cpu power unless you intend to make it a desktop replacement/gaming machine.
That being said... Such a laptop is going to be rather heavy. I am getting the Transformer to replace an early gen AspireOne for less technical classes.
Just my $0.02
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Just adding on to this, since I'm a student and also looking for a tablet solution.
I'd love:
1. Printing to my university printers. My university currently requires you install some software to use their printers. Mac and Windows versions available, no Linux, no Android.
2. Onenote would be awesome. I read that there was an iPhone version available? Android should be coing soon hopefully.
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I was about to say that you're insane and that MS would never make OneNote for iOS but.. turns out you're right. That's really strange. Hopefully they start work on an Android version soon.
Edit: The iOS version of OneNote doesn't seem all that great. You can't write with a stylus.. it's just keyboard input. lame. Writing with a capacitive stylus on the transformer would kind of suck anyway, but I might still consider the HTC Flyer which has an active digitizer.
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I was about to say that you're insane and that MS would never make OneNote for iOS but.. turns out you're right. That's really strange. Hopefully they start work on an Android version soon.
Edit: The iOS version of OneNote doesn't seem all that great. You can't write with a stylus.. it's just keyboard input. lame. Writing with a capacitive stylus on the transformer would kind of suck anyway, but I might still consider the HTC Flyer which has an active digitizer.
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Right, but I'm interested in the Transformer almost purely because of the keyboard dock, so keyboard input only is fine with me tbh. As long as it's decently full featured.
I'm waiting to see if the AMD Llano will make the best thin gaming laptop. Hopefully, new AMD laptops will come out in June, right before back-to-school season.
Oh yeah, OneNote. Yeah, that's important too.
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Oh yeah, OneNote. Yeah, that's important too.
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Onenote is the single most useful piece of software MS has ever produced (Excluding win7;p))
Virtual Machines? Eh, I never needed to use one except when I was using a Mac. Wandering what you guys are doing with it.
Any laptop that is 13"+ in screen size is good. The power of the computer depends on what you plan to do. So you have to decide on the specs yourself. Dual Core is fine unless you plan to do any CPU intensive tasks. If you ever need a bigger screen, then you can just buy a monitor and hook it up so even a netbook could be fine if you are okay with the power it gives. 13"-15" is good. 17" is just monstrous and you don't want to be lugging that around.
Hello!
I want to buy a tablet for use in school instead of my notebook.
I really love Android Honeycomb but I have some problems here and there...
I will tell you something about what i need and want. I hope some of you can make some good suggestions.
I looked around a bit and three devices were generally suitable... The problem is I don'T know what to take... Win or Android...
The three devices:
-Acer Iconia A500 (or A501)
-Acer Iconia W500 (or W501)
-Asus Eee Pad Transformer TF101
Perfect fo me would be to have a dual-booting tablet with Win7 and Honeycomb.
I want to have an easy to handle Tablet. Means I do never want to have a real HArd Disk. Thats why most Windows Tablets are not possible for me.
SSD or Flash / NAND storage is an important criteria.
Next I want my pad to be lightweight meaning I preferr ARM-Platforms as they have much less Hardware. Especially the Fan in x86-HW is annoying in my eyes.
But I need the Tablet for basicly five things:
-Presentations: Animated Presentations like in PowerPoint (That's a Contra Android I think)
-Text (Word or similar - Okay Eee Pad has an office solution)
-Table Calculation (low weight not so important)
-Software engineering (Which is a big Pro for Windows as I don't know apps for Android doing that.
-Gaming: Playing Minigames whan I'm off... Well thats a point where I like Android
And some point for me is the battery time... Unformtunately x86-Hardware is much power consuming in opptsite to ARM.
I'd love to have a device which is able to boot both systems but unfortunately honeycomb is not ported to x86 yet
Well I have a windows server so I could probably use terminal sessions for programming as a workaround
What do you think?
Or would you suggest me another Tablet else than the ones listed above?
Do you believe it will be possible to install Windows 8 onto Eee Pad Transformer?
Probably even DualBoot?
For school purposes, I think a Windows tablet would be your best bet. You just can't get all of the widely used/ popular business features in Android. Plus you don't wanna get distracted during class
I would have to Say Windows if it for school, but then again look into Android with Word power, or use of School related Apps, for which Android I think is perfect because of the use of many many different Apps to help with whatever situation you're in.
I would think Android would be a much better tablet experience than Windows.
Excluding the possibility of Windows 8.
I would like to point out Bluestacks
http://www.bluestacks.com/
Wait a few months, and a dual-booting tablet will be possible
In the meantime, have you used windows 7 with a touchscreen? IMHO, it kinda sucks.
hahah ,very thanks
Well Windows 7 on touchscreen is possible and it is quite usable. I tried one out (Ambiance AT-something)
But I really love Android as I already stated. And it is better in tiouchscreen-use of course.
The school I mean is not a regular school but it is a school wehre you go if you learn a job (don't know the english word for it). I'm learning an IT-Specialist Job so thats not any problem
The question is while looking on each parameter what would be the best choice for me?
None is suitable 100% I guess this will end up in a 45-55 percent decision...
As I you said generally Windows has much more "known" capabilities e.g. MS Office but on the other hand android is much better while talkting from tablets... It is more efficient light-weight (focussing on hardware specs) and when I focus on travelluign I would like to have android as it has more battery lifetime and at the same time the games are better (You have to remember that most windows games are too hardware-hungry to run on a tablet and if they do you have battery times around two hours? )
For my purposes the polaris office Word equivalent is enough.
The presentation thing is okay for small presentations. for bigger ones I'd have to use windows or wait until some software comes out (which will happen I think)
I did not try table caluclation on polaris office yet...
A big plus-point for windows is programming... IS there any software out for android which supports that? I don't think so.
But therefore I could use my server as I already said.
A big plus for android is portabliity and the in my oppinion better games for entertaiment.
Besides the Transformers Screen is awsome in comparison to the Acer...
The transformer does have a nice screen. It's a quite capable tablet, I liked the hardware much more than the Acer. Honeycomb just isnt quite there yet. If It has to work and be easy, go Windows. If it has to be fun go Android
I wouldn't buy any android tablet at the present date, especially if i don't wanna use it mainly as a toy...android is not mature yet, it still has a lot of glitches to be ironed out, on a tablet they can become even more annoying.
It'S exactly what my problem is^^ I want fun but also be able to do my work.
But I don't mind having it a bit more complicated then.
I would instantly say I take a windows thing and use android-x86 ginger as dualboot... But I dislike the x86-Arch-Hardware in a Tablet.
Tablet android 100%
There is already a tablet with dual booting os i.e. android n windows....
here is the link..
rajivshahi said:
There is already a tablet with dual booting os i.e. android n windows....
here is the link..
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Friend I am really sceptic when I see a Dual-Booting Tablet, looking like an ipad coming from Hong Kong and haveing Win7 ULTIMATE on it.
Next there is another doing this from Viewsonic. But installing Android 2.2 or 2.3 on an x86 platform is not the problem...
Honeycomb is not possible unfortunately - YET I know TegaTech is workign on it and it is running. Just google not permitting the release yet.
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Tablet android 100%
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Can you describe why?
Going off what you've said you need it for, and that you don't mind how W7 works on a tablet, I'd say go that route, and install bluestacks when it comes out to get your android games.
Coding inside android is not something I've ever heard about, I know you mentioned it, but I don't know how important it is to you.
If battery life is really important, however, I'd recommended the Asus transformer - massive battery life with the dock, and works great as a netbook or a tablet. Dunno how Google docs or similar works on it as an office suite, but its definitely an option.
Thanks mtmerrick
Your post is exactly what I think.
Win7 is good in software and Transformer in Hardware...
If Transformer 2 was out now I would have bought it... Do you think if I buy TF now I will be able to install WIndows 8 on it when it comes out?
I don't know if it's even possible to install anything there?
//Edit: The Programming part is not important for me. But for School. As said I'd use Terminal Sessions for this purpose when thats the only death criteria for android.
Thank my posts if they helped.
There's been talk of putting windows 8 on android devices already, but its too soon to say if it'll actually be possible. I also want to add, Windows 8 ARM apps are most likely not going to be compatible with windows 8 x86 and x64 programs, if that makes a difference to you.
Android has several office suites avalible, and they're pretty good. I'm not exactly sure how strong they are but I do know they're more then enough for most of my entire office. Add the Transformer's hardware keyboard and you should be good to go.
So, I've effectively talked myself into the Asus Eee Pad Transformer for you. What do you think?
I am sure Windows 8 ARM will support MSOffice and Visual C# Express As wella s there will be a notepad++ compile for ARM so that's really all I need lol
Well Microsoft has already said there'll he a version of Office avalible for ARM, so no need to worry about that. But, as I said, android office apps should be all you need,expically with that hardware keyboard. And the transformer has an HDMI out, if I remember correctly, so that (probably) means dual monitor support, and definitely mirroring. Thing is, most people just don't NEED the full capabilities of windows. Only reasons for my laptop are AutoCAD and iTunes. And if windows 8 ARM is going to require its own programs, honestly, why bother with it?
I agree with you.
Define "need"
I saw ubuntu is able to run on the transformer... That opens a new way =)
Which includes even most programming problems
Does anyone know if I can dualboot Android and Ubuntu on the Transformer?
If yes I know what I will buy
android of cos....
Hey devs, lets start cranking this baby out. Lets do some research, and find out what he need to get W8 on the G Tablet
Please details, or possible obstacles you find, or feel
Sorry Charlie
DJTJ said:
Hey devs, lets start cranking this baby out. Lets do some research, and find out what he need to get W8 on the G Tablet
Please details, or possible obstacles you find, or feel
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Well, this has been answered before, but just to make you happy...the closest you will ever get to seeing Win 8 on a gTab is if you play a YouTube video of it.
Won't be possible for numerous reasons:
1. Doesn't meet the hardware specs (too little ram, too little storage, missing various pieces of hardware, screen res way too low, etc)
2. Unlike Android (which is open source), Windows is not...MS would be all over anyone butt if they tried to modify it for another device
3. MS has already stated Win8 (RT) will only come pre-installed on OEM devices meaning the OEM's build will be specific to their hardware
4. We can't even get drivers for our current hardware on Android...how do expect to get Windows ones for it??????
5. I could go one, but I hope you get the point
Al
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Precisely.
How many devices (of any type) can you name which run any form of Windows (or MS-DOS, for that matter) without MS's blessing? (Let's skip pirated copies here.)
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Precisely.
How many devices (of any type) can you name which run any form of Windows (or MS-DOS, for that matter) without MS's blessing? (Let's skip pirated copies here.)
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My thoughts exactly....... Why OH Why would you want Microsoft software on a Android Tablet. UI for Win8 are not that great and perfomance wouldn't be either. Really Metro on Android it's bad enough they have a launcher for it let alone someone wanting a OS. I would rather try putting IOs on this thing then somthing from Microsoft. Just saying.
Even if the UI is fantastic and the performance is great, the idea is a non-starter. Here's why:
Let's say Hannspree makes a deal with MS tomorrow and releases Win 8 (completely unlocked of course!) on their Hannspad next month. Now, since the Hannspad and the gTab are very close tablets, you could conceivably just pull the official files from that tablet and use it on the gTab with minor modifications. And let's also assume that you've got Win 8 working perfectly on the gTab by going in with a hex editor and patching whatever binaries. And finally, when you boot it, Win 8 blows the socks off everything else.
Unfortunately, what you've done now is create a pirated distro of Win 8 -- a warez distribution -- and no reputable BBS (certainly not XDA!) will touch it. You'll have to post your wonderful creation on some 0-day warez upload site for people to use.
The technical problems are actually a tertiary concern here.
I have it on my U30GT Cube, well, not really on it, but with the "Splashtop" app I can use my main PC (Win8) on my tablet touch screen and its great.
So, while you may not be able to fully install Win8 on the Gtab, if your main PC has Win8 (I assume any other Windows OS too), I do not see any reason why Splashtop would not suffice or indeed enhance any tablet.
Hi,
I'm using since many years a LG Optimus 4X HD rooted but with the stock Rom,
I did not find any custom ROM that would be half way up to date and would run well on it.
Now there is kind of a security SNAFU the Stagefright bug (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagefright_(bug)) that king of makes continuing the use of the phone a No Go that is unless some one points me to a reliably working ROM that would have that bug fixed....
Anyways What new phone should I get to ensure I will not find my self in a similar situation for at least 5+ years using that phone. That means a long therm community support must be to be expected.
Yes I know thats a long time, but for me any non x86 device is just a toy that does not have to do much:
1. Navigation (Navigon)
2. VPN
3. RDP, VNC, ssh client
4. taking pictures
5. playing mp3
6. surfing the web
What I would else require would be a micro-SD card slot.
Now what sounds really well is the http://shop.fairphone.com/fairphone2.html but lets be honest for 530€ I can buy 3 to 4 reasonably cheep smartphoens each time with an up to date android on it. So the price is simply to high.
I would say that a reasonable price for me would be around 300€
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated
David
DavidXanatos said:
Hi,
I'm using since many years a LG Optimus 4X HD rooted but with the stock Rom,
I did not find any custom ROM that would be half way up to date and would run well on it.
Now there is kind of a security SNAFU the Stagefright bug (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagefright_(bug)) that king of makes continuing the use of the phone a No Go that is unless some one points me to a reliably working ROM that would have that bug fixed....
Anyways What new phone should I get to ensure I will not find my self in a similar situation for at least 5+ years using that phone. That means a long therm community support must be to be expected.
Yes I know thats a long time, but for me any non x86 device is just a toy that does not have to do much:
1. Navigation (Navigon)
2. VPN
3. RDP, VNC, ssh client
4. taking pictures
5. playing mp3
6. surfing the web
What I would else require would be a micro-SD card slot.
Now what sounds really well is the http://shop.fairphone.com/fairphone2.html but lets be honest for 530€ I can buy 3 to 4 reasonably cheep smartphoens each time with an up to date android on it. So the price is simply to high.
I would say that a reasonable price for me would be around 300€
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated
David
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There's a thread for this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277