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[Q] Will you upgrade to the S5 ?

I just bought the nexus5 and i love it. It's stock android is amazing , and the screen colour is very natural.
So to the question ... will you nexus users upgrade to the upcoming S5 ? It looks like its going feature a screen bigger than 5'' and a 16mp camera.

Never again shall I buy a locked down, poorly updated, bloated device.
(Looking at you HTC).
So I guess my answer is no
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leeston2379 said:
Never again shall I buy a locked down, poorly updated, bloated device.
(Looking at you HTC).
So I guess my answer is no
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What do you mean by ''locked down phone'' ? As for ''bloated device'' and ''poorly updated'' , I completely agree. I love OTA updates !

No. Why would I? It’s not a Nexus. It’ll likely be great hardware with no-so-great Samsung software, as usual.

dazkyl said:
I just bought the nexus5 and i love it. It's stock android is amazing , and the screen colour is very natural.
So to the question ... will you nexus users upgrade to the upcoming S5 ? It looks like its going feature a screen bigger than 5'' and a 16mp camera.
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Galaxy S5 will be saddled with Touchwiz. Even the recent 'leaks' of what might be the new Touchwiz were pretty gawd-awful to me. It will be significantly more expensive than the Nexus 5 unlocked, and will be locked down hard on AT&T and Verizon. Bigger than 5" screen is a non-starter for me. N5 is just about perfect size for me. It will probably have a better camera app but the individual pixels on the sensor are going to be tiny, probably leading to fairly poor low light performance. S5 will probably have a larger battery, but I doubt they'll be getting 3000+ mAh. Even if it gets Snapdragon 805, I doubt it will perform a ton better than the N5 due to software and TW 'feature' overload.

Coming from the DNA, s3, and note 2, absolutely not. The Samsung 4.3 ota locked the s3/note 2 hard. All new phones will ship this way.
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dazkyl said:
I just bought the nexus5 and i love it. It's stock android is amazing , and the screen colour is very natural.
So to the question ... will you nexus users upgrade to the upcoming S5 ? It looks like its going feature a screen bigger than 5'' and a 16mp camera.
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Why is this a thread? Shouldn't this be in the samsung section of XDA, where I dare not venture?
megapixels don't matter by the way on a standard photo that 90% of people take, store, and share.

I have the S4 now and will be getting the n5 this week. The main reason i'm switching is because the galaxy series bootloaders are locked and no one has found a way to bypass them. I've been using safestrap but its not the same.
The pure Android experience is the way to go. Updates right when they are released, No bloatware, and a free to modify phone with no locks on it.

Nope! Nexus FTW
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are you crazy??? after using nexus i'll never go back samsung and their lousy touchwiz and their bloody knox.

leeston2379 said:
Never again shall I buy a locked down, poorly updated, bloated device.
(Looking at you HTC).
So I guess my answer is no
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Same. Coming from a AT&T Galaxy S4 I can say this x100. Never again a Samsung product. The only S4 feature, and feature from the S5, is AMOLED, and for the S5 the 2K display. However the camera on the Nexus 5 is superior to the S4 I had, at least I get WAY better photos. I will never buy a Non-Nexus Android phone again. Although iPhone6 may tempt me.

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Shouldn't this be in the samsung section of XDA?
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agreed.
and you guys are all looking at this wrong. this will be a great device as long as you purchase the unlocked/google play edition. no bootloader crap. as far as firmware goes, that can be changed. my rooted S4, with twrp and everything else this nexus has, including a superb aosp-based rom and kernel, was a thing of beauty. i expect some big power and solid support for the international and unlocked variants.
stop looking at carrier variants.
stop judging a device based on its shipped firmware.

Never again shall I buy a locked down, poorly updated, bloated device.

WoodburyMan said:
and for the S5 the 2K display
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technically, any device that is 1920x1080 is "2K"...only like 80 pixels shy of it. close enough. tech industry should refer to higher spec displays as 2.5K, really.

Might do, depends how it's built. I'm already a bit bored of my Nexus 5 and I think Android is getting to a point where the leaps in software are less and less. I've even gone back to stock and relocked my bootloader I'm that happy with stock Android!
We'll see once it's released but never say never...one thing is us UK users won't face the same issues as you carrier-branded US users will as our bootloaders will be easy to sort out so that's a moot point over here

leeston2379 said:
stop looking at carrier variants.
stop judging a device based on its shipped firmware.
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The S4 Google Play edition was not available on Google Play for almost 3 months since it was released. I bought my AT&T Branded one in late May 2013, and I believe July the Google Edition came out. So they aren't out right away. Likewise you have to judge a device by it's shipped firmware, as in some cases like the AT&T Galaxy S4, with the inability to downgrade firmware versions, if you're device shipped with "AMF3" firmware or newer, you're stuck because Loki was patched and you cannot get around the locked bootloader. With no guarantee of a Google Play Edition version, there may be no way around it. As the International version (Such as the I-9505) are not available for sale to consumers directly in the US, some people haven no choice but to use the carrier branded versions.

This is my first nexus phone ... i came from a galaxy s4 and i also love the nexus5. It's a phone that you can pratically say you will get the update exactly when it released from google.

samsung sucks donkey **** :good:

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The S4 Google Play edition was not available on Google Play for almost 3 months since it was released. I bought my AT&T Branded one in late May 2013, and I believe July the Google Edition came out. So they aren't out right away. Likewise you have to judge a device by it's shipped firmware, as in some cases like the AT&T Galaxy S4, with the inability to downgrade firmware versions, if you're device shipped with "AMF3" firmware or newer, you're stuck because Loki was patched and you cannot get around the locked bootloader. With no guarantee of a Google Play Edition version, there may be no way around it. As the International version (Such as the I-9505) are not available for sale to consumers directly in the US, some people haven no choice but to use the carrier branded versions.
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there will be a GPE edition or at least an LTE-enabled unlocked variant. my comment on the shipped firmware and my entire response in general was aimed at this particular edition of the S5. if you're an international user or north american user with the unlocked LTE model, you wont be dealing with the bootloader issues and, again, the shipped OS wont matter. that can be changed.

I'm not interested in going back to Samsung devices. I spent too much time switching ROMs, trying to get an AOSP(ish) experience from my S3. There were always things that didn't work, and the battery life was sh*t as well. Since getting this phone I've stayed on the same ROM for ages, and it has no bugs. None. I don't have to waste my time any more. A 2k screen (even if it is AMOLED, which I love) and an extra gig of RAM isn't worth the trade-offs.
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How does locked BL effect you?

Well since there is to be no root or recovery we are left with discussion and mods/apps which do not require root.
My question to the group is how does this phone being locked down effect you. Many say they will wait and hope, others saying returning/selling ASAP and still others are saying this phone doesn't need it.
As far as how it effects me? Not a whole lot, Android has come a long way and this phone is super solid. I feel that this version of Touchwiz is non intrusive even less so than the Note 5 which barely lasted a month. I do appreciate root, and when I can, I always root. For me the biggest problem is Samsung's abhorrent updating. Sure we get special treatment over older still supported devices but let's keep it real Samsung sucks. After a year Samsung magically becomes even slower. I also greatly appreciate a stock Google experience. I will probably sell this bad boy. Once my bogo comes through
I currently have Nexus 5x and Nexus 6. And am undecided as to which one I will keep although leaning towards Nexus 6. I may end up keeping s7 edge until Nexus 2016 comes out, but that option is looking unlikely

If I had known ahead of time the S7 bootloader was locked I would have bought the wife and I Nexus 6 devices and then gone to Project FI

yea sux when i found this out. but remember AT&T bootloaders were always locked down well for the most part and DEVs have always found a way to do it or work around it. I know u guys remember The days of the Loki patches rainbow recoveries etc..lol . phone has only been out a week give it some time fellas have faith in our DEVs they are the BEAST! IT WILL HAPPEN dont ask me how i just know these guys never disappoint!
in the mean time if u haven't already check this out these dudes are sweet they have instructions for non rooted requires a $2 app but worth it for now I confirm they work on my S7, cheers :laugh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/themes-apps/avengers-theme-individual-mode-t3140647

I waited months for my LG G4 to get root and a bootloader unlock. Finally got cm13 and just a short time later upgraded to the S7... I miss cm13, but it'll just take some time and it'll be back on my phone.

How does it effect me, we'll it means that I don't actually own my $800. Pocket computer. I am not the administrator so my info can be easily stolen and the device can be crippled by limiting updates. It's basically a $800. Device that will be current for 4 months. Garbage.
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chakra said:
How does it effect me, we'll it means that I don't actually own my $800. Pocket computer. I am not the administrator so my info can be easily stolen and the device can be crippled by limiting updates. It's basically a $800. Device that will be current for 4 months. Garbage.
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Return it

For myself, i wish i could just remove bloat. Speed and function is rather quick. Being able to load 3rd party launchers is the only benefit to UI changes..eh...I like the water proof feature. ..

mikesincredible said:
For myself, i wish i could just remove bloat. Speed and function is rather quick. Being able to load 3rd party launchers is the only benefit to UI changes..eh...I like the water proof feature. ..
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Check out package disabler pro

Dovigoldberger said:
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Thank you!

I just returned the s7. Back to the s6 until the LG g5 is released.

gamepr said:
I just returned the s7. Back to the s6 until the LG g5 is released.
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Mine's going back tomorrow, unless there's some news. I figure that I can just re-purchase it once/if BL is unlocked, or check out the G5.

Going to do the jump to the g5 most likely.. I didnt have to root my g4 to get the software how I like it. There is just too much samsung integration here to get around it all without having lots of minor annoyances (no major ones, just lots of little **** I dont like).

Locked BL affects me moderately. I prefer lower DPI so without xposed/app settings, the camera/video calls aren't full screen. I also lose the ability to customize the phone (xposed/wanam). I have a harder time transferring apps (no Titanium Backup). I miss out on the whole reason for liking Snapdragon over exynos (kernels, CM). I never considered returning the phone (t-mobile's BOGO free + 2 yr netflix + $60 + wireless chargers from Samsung Pay + 2 GearVR was a ridiculous deal). I have considered selling/swapping for a 930F (all it would take is VOLTE + native video dialing and I'd swap immediately).

Just got my s7 today . . Retired my note 3 after years of use .... s7 is awsome right out the box ... very fast battery is great ... happy with the purchase
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Pretty much using Nexus 6 on project Fi. It's interesting not using as much data but I do like the service. Going between sprint and T-Mobile has been nice. I have no real desire to go to 6p now. I am really hoping that Google will release another 6 inch phone soon. If it's only 5.5 I will be disappointed but will still probably get the next Nexus

My Nexus 6 is unrooted, I just know Samsung won't get Android N until the Note 6 is released

Will Locked Bootloader/No Root be the Norm moving forward for Samsung and T-Mobile ?

Hello guys I just wanted to get a better feel of how everyone else feels right now and in particular to the Galaxy S7 as well as s7 Edge on T-Mobile having a locked bootloader making root extremely difficult to get if not impossible. This was upsetting to me not because I wanted the S7 and S7 Edge but because this set a precedent for the Note 6 which is not yet released. I started my Journey with a Galaxy Note 2 and loved them ever since. I have very large hands so I definitely needed a large phone and I really quite liked the size and features. I then got the Note 4 and was certainly happy with it for over a year. I usually only hold onto phones for a short while but that phone did pretty much everything for me so I held onto it a while. Samsung announced the Note 5 and I decided to pass due to no more SD Card so I now needed to opt for at least 64gb and no IR blaster. So I decided I wouldn’t be getting that and would look at other options. I began my hunt and ultimately one of the few phones that met my standards was the Nexus 6P since it had a 5.7-inch screen which was Amoled and had a very good camera and I decided to try out stock Android since everyone always raves of its speed and updates. Plus, root on the 6P would be easy.
Anyway the 6P has been doing fine but the battery does leave a lot to be desired (I feel touchwiz does very well with its battery optimizations). Camera is also slightly better due to speed and manual controls as well as screen brightness. The next phone on my radar is the Note 6 but with the no root precedent I’m fairly concerned. To sum it up I feel we don’t have many 5.7 inch or larger phone options out there and was wondering what devices will you guys be looking at as Note competitors especially if the new Note 6 from, T-Mobile cant be rooted? It seems manufacturers like LG and HTC are not really coming out with Note competitors and if they do they are basterdized in some fashion (like lower specs and cameras). Just makes you wonder if they are not interested in the market.

Well, from what I know lg is doing seem. V10 just got an update that apparently locked down the phone. Can't even go down to lollipop if you took the MM update...I will say you should hold onto that nexus, rest of the flashaholics and root lovers will join you soon. Lol
But to answer original post, yes that is now the norm going forward.

Gotta see t-mobile Samsung devices locked up one more time to tell.
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TarquinnBlackwood said:
Gotta see t-mobile Samsung devices locked up one more time to tell.
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Yes, I would agree, one more locked Samsung from Tmobile will confirm, but I would be very surprised if it came UNlocked...

mgbotoe said:
Well, from what I know lg is doing seem. V10 just got an update that apparently locked down the phone. Can't even go down to lollipop if you took the MM update...I will say you should hold onto that nexus, rest of the flashaholics and root lovers will join you soon. Lol
But to answer original post, yes that is now the norm going forward.
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This will be really sad if so. Nexus devices are fine but sometimes dont bring all the best features. If the phone is less than 5.7 inches and no Amoled its a non start for me. Liked the HTC 10 but 5.2 inch screen is no go for me lol.
TarquinnBlackwood said:
Gotta see t-mobile Samsung devices locked up one more time to tell.
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True, will be anxiously waiting.
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Yes, I would agree, one more locked Samsung from Tmobile will confirm, but I would be very surprised if it came UNlocked...
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Thanks for your input. makes sense.

Note 6 will be locked down.

Note 5, or wait for next model?

I currently have an iphone 6S+, and its gotten to the point i hate it. I originally had it jailbroken etc and the support for it has just fallen off and now i cant do **** with it and its time to go, so my question is as a note 3 and 4 previous owner, will the note 5 do what i want? Ive heard a lot of contradictory information about it.
Can the 5s be rooted? I like stock appearence but debloated and the ability to use wifi hotspot because of my unlimited data plan.
Is there an SD slot? the non expandability of my ihone bothers me.
Or should i just wait till Fall and get the newest latest and greatest?

SS4Luck said:
I currently have an iphone 6S+, and its gotten to the point i hate it. I originally had it jailbroken etc and the support for it has just fallen off and now i cant do **** with it and its time to go, so my question is as a note 3 and 4 previous owner, will the note 5 do what i want? Ive heard a lot of contradictory information about it.
Can the 5s be rooted? I like stock appearence but debloated and the ability to use wifi hotspot because of my unlimited data plan.
Is there an SD slot? the non expandability of my ihone bothers me.
Or should i just wait till Fall and get the newest latest and greatest?
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Seeing you want a SD card I would just wait. The Note 6/7 will be coming out in August so it's only about a month away. From the leaked specs it sounds like it's going to be a bumped up S7 with a slightly better processor, bigger battery and more ram. Along with a Note 5 I own the S7 edge and really like the camera and external SD. The Note 5 is a beautiful phone but I would wait a few weeks before you spend that kind of cash on a new phone. There is currently no root for either phone but you can disable any app with the paid version of Package Disabler pro (no PC required) or the Debloater tool witch is free but requires a PC. I also believe you can tether with FoxFi but I'm not 100% sure on that.

I to would wait for the next model. My Note 5 was fine until MM came out. I may revert back to the older software. No removable battery is a pain. I haven't had a memory problem but would still like to expand when needed. I have the 64 gig model.

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I to would wait for the next model. My Note 5 was fine until MM came out. I may revert back to the older software. No removable battery is a pain. I haven't had a memory problem but would still like to expand when needed. I have the 64 gig model.
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I agree. Wait until note 7 edge. It will be out in 2 months. You get waterptoof s7 edge phone with a stylus and SD card support. Im stuck with note 5 till next year and ill get the note 8 by then.
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Foxfi works on my 5 even with the latest updates. Still not used to all the ads though. I've been rooted since my first Droid. Life ad-free was so ....so...free
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Wait.
I have the Note 5 and there is no root for the Verizon version.

Ugh no root hurts my heart...
but deinitely sounds like its worth waiting. Is the S7 edge rootable? The stylus is a mute point for me, i jsut want a giant screen and rooting/free teathering abilities lol

SS4Luck said:
Ugh no root hurts my heart...
but deinitely sounds like its worth waiting. Is the S7 edge rootable? The stylus is a mute point for me, i jsut want a giant screen and rooting/free teathering abilities lol
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It did at first for me. But ive grown out of the root, recovery and flashing rom days. It was fun and all until dev support stops. And the Rom stays forever on kitkat 4.4.2 and meanwhile the phone is now on lolipop 5.1 or marshmallow 6.0.1 and getting left behind.
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tw1n5nak35 said:
It did at first for me. But ive grown out of the root, recovery and flashing rom days. It was fun and all until dev support stops. And the Rom stays forever on kitkat 4.4.2 and meanwhile the phone is now on lolipop 5.1 or marshmallow 6.0.1 and getting left behind.
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Same here but I was on the other end too. I got tired of wasting the days making ROMs just for Verizon to kill root the next update. I love the Samsung phones so I got used to no root. At least package disabler works and we have themes.

SS4Luck said:
Ugh no root hurts my heart...
but deinitely sounds like its worth waiting. Is the S7 edge rootable? The stylus is a mute point for me, i jsut want a giant screen and rooting/free teathering abilities lol
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No the only S7 Edge that is rootable is the Chinese version. It's not available in the U.S.A. It's still a great phone root or not. You can have free teathering without root, read post #2 again. Root would be better but it's looking pretty dismal with a Samsung device.

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Or should i just wait till Fall and get the newest latest and greatest?
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For sure wait! The Note 7 will be out in less than one month. The price on the Note 5 will drop once the Note 7 is released. So even if you want a Note 5, wait for the price drop.

JulesJam said:
For sure wait! The Note 7 will be out in less than one month. The price on the Note 5 will drop once the Note 7 is released. So even if you want a Note 5, wait for the price drop.
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I'd wait I have an iPhone also bit mines jail broken so I still kinda like it

SS4Luck said:
Ugh no root hurts my heart...
but deinitely sounds like its worth waiting. Is the S7 edge rootable? The stylus is a mute point for me, i jsut want a giant screen and rooting/free teathering abilities lol
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In case you didn't know the S7 Edge now has root. I'm definitely keeping mine now.

Misterxtc said:
In case you didn't know the S7 Edge now has root. I'm definitely keeping mine now.
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Yeah but they got root because a Samsung employee leaked a signed engineering bootloader.

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Yeah but they got root because a Samsung employee leaked a signed engineering bootloader.
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I'll take it any way I can get it. It's not perfect but at least the file system can be modded to ones preference and full system back ups can be done.

wait for note 7 , i`m sick of absence of expansion slot for my note 5 , also battery back up is not so good.

Misterxtc said:
I'll take it any way I can get it. It's not perfect but at least the file system can be modded to ones preference and full system back ups can be done.
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Me too but my point was simply that this was a freak case due to the leak. We can't analogize anything they did with the S7 to the Note 5 because we don't have a signed engineering kernel for our device.
The fact that the S7 got rooted with a leaked signed engineering bootloader is no reason for us to have hope. We can't count on a Samsung employee leaking signed files like that, they are risking their job.
Rooting the S7 wasn't due to a dev finding an exploit; it was due to a Samsung employee leaking a file that they shouldn't have. Or worse, someone who wasn't a Samsung employee doing something illegal to obtain the file.

JulesJam said:
For sure wait! The Note 7 will be out in less than one month. The price on the Note 5 will drop once the Note 7 is released. So even if you want a Note 5, wait for the price drop.
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Actually, it is usually the opposite. The new device gets huge subsidies whereas the older devices stay at full price.
That having been said, it is pretty obvious to me that if you love the note series, and are into control of your phone, then the Note 4 Remains the best Android phone ever made for Verizon, and the best in the note series.
The list of benefits for the Note 4 is plethora: Root. Unlock Bootloader. Replaceable battery. SD card support. MHL. USB on-the-go. IR blaster. Great ROM support up to MM. Wireless charging option. Gorgeous screen. Incredibly durable build quality.
FYI: the first 8 benefits are not available on any other Verizon phone.

Will Verizon Note 5 ever get Nougat update?

Just wondering as I see Android O is on the horizon already.

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Just wondering as I see Android O is on the horizon already.
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Strange thing...
Last year i saw same question about Marshmallow
"Will Verizon Note 5 ever get Marshmallow update?" - Android N is on the horizon already

oksagi said:
Strange thing...
Last year i saw same question about Marshmallow
"Will Verizon Note 5 ever get Marshmallow update?" - Android N is on the horizon already
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Well then, if history is any guide, we will get it eventually lol

oksagi said:
Strange thing...
Last year i saw same question about Marshmallow
"Will Verizon Note 5 ever get Marshmallow update?" - Android N is on the horizon already
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I say we have a bet and see who gets closest wins. No money, only a gentleman/woman's bet and the winner gets the satisfaction that they were correct.
I will say this Friday, 3.31.2017 it will start to roll out to us.

Yes, the Note 5 is definitely getting the Android 7 update. It has already started rolling out in some parts of the world. See:
https://www.sammobile.com/2017/03/23/galaxy-note-5-nougat-update-is-now-out-in-these-countries/
Back in Mid-February, the Note 5 with android 7 received WiFi Certification for ATT, Sprint, and Verizon. See:
https://www.sammobile.com/2017/02/1...-receives-wi-fi-certification-running-nougat/
On the other hand, the update started rolling out on the S6 which is essentially the same internals as the Note 5 about three weeks ago and still has not hit the US. But its definitely coming. My prediction: About 4 more weeks. But I think we will have a pretty good idea when the update for the S6 hits. Its initial release was about two weeks prior to the initial Note 5 release. So when we see an update for the S6, the Note 5 should be about two weeks from then.
EDIT: More evidence. This is for the SM-920C while ours is the SM-920V but it does show that the update is rolling out: https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N920C/

I think it will be in the middle or end of April ( 04.10.2017)

I speculate June of 2017.. Lol, that's if they ever stop messing with it..
And yes, I also have been looking and hitting update since seeing the WiFi certification.. But who knows with them.. And then, hopefully, they won't mess with it, or strip out key features, since they do enjoy doing that also..
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My bet is on June as well, based on the global release of Nougat for the S7, vs the Verizon Release.

I'm eager to see what Nougat will bring to the note 5. Unless the note 8 impresses me later this summer, I'll be sticking with the note 5.

tw1n5nak35 said:
I'm eager to see what Nougat will bring to the note 5. Unless the note 8 impresses me later this summer, I'll be sticking with the note 5.
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I don't think the S8 is impressive unfortunately.. It's only got a 3,000mah battery and if you want 3,500mah you have the S8 Plus.. it's only got 4GB ram which I don't think is enough especially for future updates and apps.. I definitely don't like the fingerprint scanner being on the back!! I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking with my S7 and Note 5..

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I don't think the S8 is impressive unfortunately.. It's only got a 3,000mah battery and if you want 3,500mah you have the S8 Plus.. it's only got 4GB ram which I don't think is enough especially for future updates and apps.. I definitely don't like the fingerprint scanner being on the back!! I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking with my S7 and Note 5..
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What do you think about Note 7 that coming back ?

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What do you think about Note 7 that coming back ?
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Nope, never coming back! Samsung won't want anything to do with the "7"!! It'll probably jinx the 8 if they decided to call it 7 again. Lol

I for one am NOT eager to put another update on this phone. I saw this with my Note 2, my Thunderbolt and my Droid X. Which each OS update, came major slow downs to the overall system. Planned obsolescence that people are eager to do to themselves. No freaking thank you. The new update won't do anything positive for me, we're not in the 2.2 days of Android anymore. They can keep their crappy downgrades that make the phone sluggish and bogged down.

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I for one am NOT eager to put another update on this phone. I saw this with my Note 2, my Thunderbolt and my Droid X. Which each OS update, came major slow downs to the overall system. Planned obsolescence that people are eager to do to themselves. No freaking thank you. The new update won't do anything positive for me, we're not in the 2.2 days of Android anymore. They can keep their crappy downgrades that make the phone sluggish and bogged down.
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You mean they send crappy firmware "downgrades" out right about when they put a new phone out because they purposely cause your phone to get all sluggish and slow thereby trying to make you think it's a good idea to buy their new phone? That's why I don't bother with their updates and the other thing is if it ain't broke..... You get it lol..

I love the Nougat update on my S7 Edge. I keep powering on my Note5 in hope of having a software update. My battery life went from about 1.5 hrs of screentime on my S7 to 4. I bet I could get more then that if I wasn't outside so much.

JacobAndrew07 said:
I love the Nougat update on my S7 Edge. I keep powering on my Note5 in hope of having a software update. My battery life went from about 1.5 hrs of screentime on my S7 to 4. I bet I could get more then that if I wasn't outside so much.
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Try this https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/software-updates/ for update status. It stays current.

I was actually hoping I was wrong on the 31st suggestion..
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The S7 / Edge wasn't that great of a phone (at least, it was no better than a Note 5)..... I don't get what people love about it. The screen was too small for what I wanted, and the curvature of the Edge just felt awkward to hold. The only benefit was a MicroSD slot for additional storage. When I had to turn in my Note 7 I was almost offended by the offers to go with an S7 (which has the same hardware as the Note 5 so it's really dated for such a major f up) instead of future credit towards a new flagship. Now the Note 5 gets security updates that screw with both the proximity sensor and screen rotation, and it feels like no one cares that is broken a couple times a week until you reboot. I hope the Nougat update fixes it, but by that time I might have an S8 so it will be a moot point except for resale opportunity.

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The S7 / Edge wasn't that great of a phone (at least, it was no better than a Note 5)..... I don't get what people love about it. The screen was too small for what I wanted, and the curvature of the Edge just felt awkward to hold. The only benefit was a MicroSD slot for additional storage. When I had to turn in my Note 7 I was almost offended by the offers to go with an S7 (which has the same hardware as the Note 5 so it's really dated for such a major f up) instead of future credit towards a new flagship. Now the Note 5 gets security updates that screw with both the proximity sensor and screen rotation, and it feels like no one cares that is broken a couple times a week until you reboot. I hope the Nougat update fixes it, but by that time I might have an S8 so it will be a moot point except for resale opportunity.
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I couldn't agree more about the 7. I never understood that desire for them to do that..
.I haven't faced the rotation issue on my unit, but like you, I cried when I had to turn in my 7..it was an awesome phone . I really am hoping the update brings some of that feel back with the 5.. I'm really must waiting up in arms for the update.. Because it's needed on this device..
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I was considering a Note 7 when I bought my Note 5, now I wish I never bought any of them.