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i have a problem and was wondering if there is anything else i can do to improve bettery on my phone to keep my instant messenger(beejive) runnig for at least half of the
thigs i have already done:
lowered brightness
took off touch flow 3d
downloaded the gps tool to maintain it off
if anything else please tell me
try searching through other threads. battery has been one of the MOST DISCUSSED issues. g'luck
Pimps30 said:
i have a problem and was wondering if there is anything else i can do to improve bettery on my phone to keep my instant messenger(beejive) runnig for at least half of the
thigs i have already done:
lowered brightness
took off touch flow 3d
downloaded the gps tool to maintain it off
if anything else please tell me
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Hi,
Things that improve battery life:
- Drain the battery COMPLETELY until the phones shuts off and recharge the battery with the phone turned off. Do this 3 times. Improves battery life extremely.
- Disable repplog.exe in the notification queue with the comment "system time changed" using memmaid or similar tool (don't do this when you sync with an Exchange server OTA)
- Use advance config and enable all the options under "energy"
These are the 3 things I found in the forum that really work for me
Scott
Pimps30 said:
i have a problem and was wondering if there is anything else i can do to improve bettery on my phone to keep my instant messenger(beejive) runnig for at least half of the
thigs i have already done:
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BeeJive IM is a seriously intensive IM product that drains my battery very very quickly. I would suggest using Palringo. www.palringo.com It's not as pretty as BeeJive but your battery life with signifigantly improve.
I would also try using different radio's. Radios can help you improve battery life / signal strenth, etc. Test out all of the Raphael radios and available and see which ones works best for you.
Rahza said:
Hi,
Things that improve battery life:
- Drain the battery COMPLETELY until the phones shuts off and recharge the battery with the phone turned off. Do this 3 times. Improves battery life extremely.
- Disable repplog.exe in the notification queue with the comment "system time changed" using memmaid or similar tool (don't do this when you sync with an Exchange server OTA)
- Use advance config and enable all the options under "energy"
These are the 3 things I found in the forum that really work for me
Scott
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I have tested the theory with draining the battery 3 times to it's complete and utter demise before charging. I found that doing it once worked best for me. Since Lithium Ion batteries do not have memory such as Nickel Metal Hydrate. I have found however that if my battery is acting funny to fully let it die then charge it up completely that it will return to it's normal self.
I have done a lot reseach on Lithium Ion batteries and found it's best to keep your device charged as much as it can and not let me battery get below 30% or 20% at the most before re-charging it. When I do this I get the best battery life as possible and my battery seems to last a lot longer in regards to the longevity of the battery as a whole.
battery bar defect
hello my name is laura and i have the htc touch pro i treid i couple of tweaks to expand my battery life and now my battery bar does not work it does not go emty i suddenly get i message that my head battery is very low and i have to recharge but my bar is completly full i removed the tweaks but it is still not working help
Hey guys,
I'm a new Nexus 5 owner and I come from the HTC One S (which is known for a terrible battery). Although, my battery on the Nexus 5 is even worse compared to my setup on the HTC One S. With light use, I'm glad to get around 10-12 hours of it.
Is it worth rooting battery wise? I mean, are there roms / kernals that significantly improve battery life? I'm no gamer, but I do browse and use social media apps..
Thanks in advance!
Hi,
Flash another kernel or rom will not obviously improve your battery life. Battery life depends mainly of your use, apps, settings (like screen brightness, synchro), data signal quality, etc... and even more the rom has nothing to do with your battery life.
For example if you have an app with a ton of wakelocks, flashing another kernel or another rom will not do better... You use social media apps, in general the battery drain can come from them.
Maybe in first you should identify the cause of your battery drain, no? Post your battery history for example and use Better Battery Stats: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809.
You said "10-12 hours" but what about the sreen ON time?
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
Hi,
Flash another kernel or rom will not obviously improve your battery life. Battery life depends mainly of your use, apps, settings (like screen brightness, synchro), data signal quality, etc... and even more the rom has nothing to do with your battery life.
For example if you have an app with a ton of wakelocks, flashing another kernel or another rom will not do better... You use social media apps, in general the battery drain can come from them.
Maybe in first you should identify the cause of your battery drain, no? Post your battery history for example and use Better Battery Stats: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809.
You said "10-12 hours" but what about the sreen ON time?
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Thanks for your comment.. I just purchased better battery stats to monitor my battery!
Just to add, rooting isn't necessary to flash a custom kernel. Rooting itself shouldn't change battery life at all
Sent from my Nexus 5
pepdavies said:
Just to add, rooting isn't necessary to flash a custom kernel. Rooting itself shouldn't change battery life at all
Sent from my Nexus 5
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To get things straight.. flashing a custom kernel only requires the bootloader to be unlocked or?
That's correct
Sent from my Nexus 5
To give an update on my current situation:
52% battery left (7 hours and 24 minutes since charge).
Screen on time: 1 hour, 54 minutes.
I would say you are in the average, but without knowing more details, hard to tell more...
Wi-Fi?
3G/4G?
Good signal quality?
Screen brightness?
Synchro?
Etc...
That extrapolates to almost 4 hours sot. That's not bad. Franco kernel can probably get you a bit more.
Sent from my Nexus 5
Hammer_Of_The_Gods said:
I would say you are in the average, but without knowing more details, hard to tell more...
Wi-Fi?
3G/4G?
Good signal quality?
Screen brightness?
Synchro?
Etc...
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WiFi's on, even in sleeping mode.. not scanning.. no message on 'open networks' & WiFi optimalisation's on too.
No bluetooth
NFC off
Location reporting & history off, Location mode is on 'battery save' mode.
4G turned off as is drained even more.. now usually in 3G with decent coverage I think
Screen brightness is between 15 - 20%, sleeping mode after 30 seconds and no day dreaming & default Nexus wallpaper.
Google Now's on
Optimised synchronisation
Most sounds disabled, mostly on 'quiet' mode.
Running ART
IVS IVRIS said:
WiFi's on, even in sleeping mode.. not scanning.. no message on 'open networks' & WiFi optimalisation's on too.
No bluetooth
NFC off
Location reporting & history off, Location mode is on 'battery save' mode.
4G turned off as is drained even more.. now usually in 3G with decent coverage I think
Screen brightness is between 15 - 20%, sleeping mode after 30 seconds and no day dreaming & default Nexus wallpaper.
Google Now's on
Optimised synchronisation
Most sounds disabled, mostly on 'quiet' mode.
Running ART
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[*]Location reporting & history off, Location mode is on 'battery save' mode. <-Turn this off. It doesn't save battery well. Call it a "feature".
[*]WiFi's on, even in sleeping mode.. not scanning.. no message on 'open networks' & WiFi optimalisation's on too. <-Go under Advanced in Wi-Fi options (hit the little menu button) and there's an extra setting to scan while Wi-Fi is off, turn this off.
Those two things plus turning off the "Ok Google" may help. Also do you have the camera battery usage bug?
You're getting average times for your setup.
If you want to get more, check out the battery thread and read through it a bit.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509132
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Battery life
IVS IVRIS said:
Hey guys,
I'm a new Nexus 5 owner and I come from the HTC One S (which is known for a terrible battery). Although, my battery on the Nexus 5 is even worse compared to my setup on the HTC One S. With light use, I'm glad to get around 10-12 hours of it.
Is it worth rooting battery wise? I mean, are there roms / kernals that significantly improve battery life? I'm no gamer, but I do browse and use social media apps..
Thanks in advance!
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You can check how much battery life your device has left by doing one of the following options:
Use Quick Settings or View the battery graph.
However root manually if possible because rooting itself doesn't change battery life at all. Bettery life generally depends on our Apps that we are using on our Smart phones.
Roms / Kernals will not improve your battery life.
Recently I've been experiencing absolutely terrible battery life. I lose about 1% every five minutes with the screen on - sometimes even faster - and find myself increasingly unable to last a full (work) day without having to plug in at least once. My current ROM/Kernel are LolliGPE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716306) and Elite kernel from when I switched from stock Kit Kat back in December. It's worth noting that I haven't gotten around to updating either since their installation. I can't remember how my battery life was back in December nor before Lollipop, but I'm almost certain it was better than it was now.
My questions are:
What ROM/Kernel do you recommend for the best battery life?
Are there any apps I should check for and uninstall that drain battery?
In general, how can I increase my battery life?
Thanks!
Klayderpus said:
Recently I've been experiencing absolutely terrible battery life. I lose about 1% every five minutes with the screen on - sometimes even faster - and find myself increasingly unable to last a full (work) day without having to plug in at least once. My current ROM/Kernel are LolliGPE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716306) and Elite kernel from when I switched from stock Kit Kat back in December. It's worth noting that I haven't gotten around to updating either since their installation. I can't remember how my battery life was back in December nor before Lollipop, but I'm almost certain it was better than it was now.
My questions are:
What ROM/Kernel do you recommend for the best battery life?
Are there any apps I should check for and uninstall that drain battery?
In general, how can I increase my battery life?
Thanks!
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1. Rom/kernel combinations in regards to battery life, or pretty much anything, is a completely subjective experience. You're better off trying different combinations for yourself and seeing what works best for you.
2. To see if you have any rogue apps, better battery stats probably does the best job showing what is using your battery. If an app is an issue it'll show you exactly what's causing it.
3. Best way to improve battery life is to monitor your battery stats with a battery monitor and try to control your wakelocks as much as possible. You can Google search exactly what process is keeping your phone awake and fix your problems one by one.
In my opinion, the three biggest things that truly affect battery life is mobile signal connection, Internet connection strength, and Google services such as Google now. Trying a different firmware version could increase your battery life as well as trying different rom/firmware combinations.
I'm running Adrenaline 1.2 with quantum kernel 1.25 on stock 4.4.4 firmware. I'm getting the best battery life I've ever had with that combo. Then again, in bright light where the screen has to run at full brightness and with a less than stellar signal, it will still eat through power pretty quickly. It's just the nature of the beast.
Odd I am stock non-root and see the best battery I have ever had with Android
Klayderpus said:
Recently I've been experiencing absolutely terrible battery life. I lose about 1% every five minutes with the screen on - sometimes even faster - and find myself increasingly unable to last a full (work) day without having to plug in at least once. My current ROM/Kernel are LolliGPE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716306) and Elite kernel from when I switched from stock Kit Kat back in December. It's worth noting that I haven't gotten around to updating either since their installation. I can't remember how my battery life was back in December nor before Lollipop, but I'm almost certain it was better than it was now.
My questions are:
What ROM/Kernel do you recommend for the best battery life?
Are there any apps I should check for and uninstall that drain battery?
In general, how can I increase my battery life?
After experiencing the same problem as yours with the two mentioned kernels, i seek for solution and found one. backup all my contacts, sms, call log, bookmarks, apps then i did a clean install of fluent rom based on sprint port cos i love lollipop and the two devices are similar in many ways. Surprisingly i get 6hours of usage with just 20% gone and at least about 3 -4 h screen on at the same time. so my advice is to try clean install.
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Here are Buckmarble's own recommended settings with the Elite Kernel:
Governor: ragingmolasses
Ioscehd: fiops
Read ahead: 1024
UV: -24 across the board
2265 max 300 min
I use Trickster Mod to set these. I have heard that the frequencies don't stick, but I haven't bothered to check because battery life (running Fluent ROM 2.0) is stellar. I put my M8 on extreme powersave yesterday when it was at 100% because I'm testing a different handset and when I returned to the M8 late yesterday evening it was "all the way" down to 95%.
Are there people out there who mostly use their OnePlus 6 with WiFi yet your phone is mostly idle?
What's your average WiFi battery drain? Could you please upload your main GSam Battery Monitor Screen?
My phone is connected to a WiFi router (2.4GHz 802.11n) and the signal strength is excellent. On average my OnePlus has a 10 mAh discharge rate which is several times higher than for my old Nexus which is connected to the same WiFi network.
Here's my data:
20% of 50% of battery used for 31.5 hours.
3300/31.5*0.2*0.5 = 10.48 mAh.
No one uses OnePlus 6?
Actually, people don't left their phone in the corner for days, so you know, you never know.
boanhdaytien2 said:
Actually, people don't left their phone in the corner for days, so you know, you never know.
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I use a PC up to 16 hours a day. Not everyone is obsessed with Instagramming or twitterring. I only use my smart phone when I'm en route and I occasionally use instant messengers.
Those who've replied < 6mAh, could you show your GSam screenshots, please?
What type of WiFi router do you use? What WiFi standard? Do you have MiMo enabled on it?
If you rock your phone with that minimal usage, I recommend using ElementalX kernel and LKT magisk modue with battery profile, I'm getting way more battery with this setup compare to stock one (about 4 more sot). But you'll get 30% more lagginess
boanhdaytien2 said:
If you rock your phone with that minimal usage, I recommend using ElementalX kernel and LKT magisk modue with battery profile, I'm getting way more battery with this setup compare to stock one (about 4 more sot). But you'll get 30% more lagginess
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I wonder how a custom kernel might help with the WiFi module battery drain. I barely receive any notifications and according to GSam my phone is in deep sleep mode most of the time. There's something else wrong but I've no idea what exactly.
Why does no one post GSam Battery Monitor screenshots?
birdie said:
I wonder how a custom kernel might help with the WiFi module battery drain. I barely receive any notifications and according to GSam my phone is in deep sleep mode most of the time. There's something else wrong but I've no idea what exactly.
Why does no one post GSam Battery Monitor screenshots?
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Cause no one use their phone like you do, and it's pointless to measure your phone for fun.
BTW, as you describe, you may encountering oneplus most famous problem, "super deepsleep". You might wanna turn off battery optimization of your apps which send notification and turn off all advance battery optimization (deep optimization, sleep standby optimization).
boanhdaytien2 said:
Cause no one use their phone like you do, and it's pointless to measure your phone for fun.
BTW, as you describe, you may encountering oneplus most famous problem, "super deepsleep". You might wanna turn off battery optimization of your apps which send notification and turn off all advance battery optimization (deep optimization, sleep standby optimization).
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Here:
Battery Saver: OFF
Adaptive Battery: OFF
Battery Optimization: Not Optimized Apps: None
Advanced Optimization: Deep Optimization/Sleep Standby Optimization: both OFF (I don't want to enable these two because I'm afraid I will start missing notifications from apps).
Am I missing something?
Edit: what's specially funny is that the guy who posted OnePlus 6 battery optimization guide has the same issue though he doesn't admit it. If you take a look at the screenshots he posted, you'll immediately notice that his WiFi usage is the second worst battery offender after the screen.
I still wonder why almost no one cares.
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Anyone have better battery life on stock kernel than on any custom kernel?
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Anyone have better battery life on stock kernel than on any custom kernel?
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Yup, haven't had a custom kernel beat my SoT and idle drain, and tried most of them. Including wakelock blocking, underclocking, etc. Stock remains best by far, here.
Ymmv and sure some kernel fans will chime in and claim completely otherwise, and that's just fine :good:
For now enjoying 10+ hours of SoT and draining 3% per night being idle using the amazing stock kernel
I'm getting about the same, MAYBE a little better on EX Kernel. I use the custom kennel for features usually.
* Increase vibration strength
* Lower minimum MHz for less per drain when idle
* Increase Mac sound volume
* Disable swap file and Zram
* Increase read ahead to 2048kb (ideal with 32gb or more storage)
With the 7 pro I'm getting better battery then my op6 and I have forced 90hz all apps enabled 24/7 and resolution set to auto switch.
i do kernel tweaking on my own but not a custom kernel. Im on the latest h2os and i get 9 hours sot average. idle drain overnight for 8 hours is about 2%
Personally I don't run a custom kernel for power savings, I run it for wireguard support. The best way I've found to increase battery life and reduce idle drain is running xXx magisk ROM and debloating the crap out of the OS
Yeah, best battery and performance balance is the stock kernel.
Stock kernel...I don't need to look at the screen for 10 hours...doing what I do is more then enough to last for more than a day...
just hit 50% battery and I'm at over 6 hours screen on time
2 days 5 hours off charger with 7 hours screen time.
I don't know how some of you can achieve 10h SoT I literally tried everything - all kernels, debloaters, used Swifted to force most of apps to run in dark/black mode, used Automate to toggle off wifi/BT/kill unused apps that use resources in background (like fb etc), some magisk modules, kernel tweaks - I did all of that with all sorts of combinations (not all at once) and basically I couldn't improve bettery life by any noticeable margin, getting 6, sometimes 7 SoT, my goal was 8-8,5.
I don't any heavy lifting - main usage is Hangouts, Gmail, Facebook (maybe that is the killer?), Messenger, Chrome and sometimes other (telegram etc) - Never any gaming nor heavy programs.
Pfeffernuss said:
Yup, haven't had a custom kernel beat my SoT and idle drain, and tried most of them. Including wakelock blocking, underclocking, etc. Stock remains best by far, here.
Ymmv and sure some kernel fans will chime in and claim completely otherwise, and that's just fine :good:
For now enjoying 10+ hours of SoT and draining 3% per night being idle using the amazing stock kernel
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I'd try sticking to the stock kernel, the problem is that OTG doesn't work properly.
Lirannl said:
I'd try sticking to the stock kernel, the problem is that OTG doesn't work properly.
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Exactly what doesn't work properly? Can't find any peculiarities.
spawnn617 said:
I don't know how some of you can achieve 10h SoT I literally tried everything - all kernels, debloaters, used Swifted to force most of apps to run in dark/black mode, used Automate to toggle off wifi/BT/kill unused apps that use resources in background (like fb etc), some magisk modules, kernel tweaks - I did all of that with all sorts of combinations (not all at once) and basically I couldn't improve bettery life by any noticeable margin, getting 6, sometimes 7 SoT, my goal was 8-8,5.
I don't any heavy lifting - main usage is Hangouts, Gmail, Facebook (maybe that is the killer?), Messenger, Chrome and sometimes other (telegram etc) - Never any gaming nor heavy programs.
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I think some of those messaging apps (or ones that require syncing or wait for push notifications) are the cause.
You wont see the battery page showing that they consume so much battery because in a way they dont (as they are not in the foreground or doing any heavy computation). But i found that these apps prevent the phone from deep sleep.
You can find out by using things like Better battery status to see the wakelock/alarms of those apps. Some of apps wake up the divice periodically so frequently....
But on the other hand if you want to get notifications from an app and it is poorly designed (drains unnecessary amount battery), there is no way to avoid it. But if you just use jt occasionally and dont need timely notification, try using Servicely to disable wakelock/services of the app (requires root and may break the app, but you can just enable those disabled things to restore the app).
kezzuki said:
I think some of those messaging apps (or ones that require syncing or wait for push notifications) are the cause.
You wont see the battery page showing that they consume so much battery because in a way they dont (as they are not in the foreground or doing any heavy computation). But i found that these apps prevent the phone from deep sleep.
You can find out by using things like Better battery status to see the wakelock/alarms of those apps. Some of apps wake up the divice periodically so frequently....
But on the other hand if you want to get notifications from an app and it is poorly designed (drains unnecessary amount battery), there is no way to avoid it. But if you just use jt occasionally and dont need timely notification, try using Servicely to disable wakelock/services of the app (requires root and may break the app, but you can just enable those disabled things to restore the app).
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Yeah I suspected that as well and did track Wakelocks. I used Automate to kill Messenger and FB in background when the screen is off, also tried few other tricks and amount of % of deep sleep while screen is of was better - starting from 30% awake while screen off to as low as less than 10% but... Battery train in idle was the same and generally battery life didn't improve at all... Strange but True. That's why I went back to all stock without any tricks..
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Yeah I suspected that as well and did track Wakelocks. I used Automate to kill Messenger and FB in background when the screen is off, also tried few other tricks and amount of % of deep sleep while screen is of was better - starting from 30% awake while screen off to as low as less than 10% but... Battery train in idle was the same and generally battery life didn't improve at all... Strange but True. That's why I went back to all stock without any tricks..
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hummm...well right now im on blu_spark and this is the best battery life i am getting. My set up is described here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/development/kernel-t3944179/post79844206
i think im stuck in the same shoe as you cus i rely on Wechat,google sync and a Bluetooth fitness band so the device is going to use quite a bit battery but i managed to get this far...
And battery life is what i require most out of a phone lol
here is a screen shot of battery usesage, its still early in the day but.
I expect screen on consumption will go to about 7.5~8% / hour when the day goes by, like usual.
One interesting thing is that, lol, i never tried stock kernel lol And seeing (in this thread) how people get good sot with stock kernel makes me wanna try it lol will give it a shot over the weekend
kezzuki said:
I think some of those messaging apps (or ones that require syncing or wait for push notifications) are the cause.
You wont see the battery page showing that they consume so much battery because in a way they dont (as they are not in the foreground or doing any heavy computation). But i found that these apps prevent the phone from deep sleep.
You can find out by using things like Better battery status to see the wakelock/alarms of those apps. Some of apps wake up the divice periodically so frequently....
But on the other hand if you want to get notifications from an app and it is poorly designed (drains unnecessary amount battery), there is no way to avoid it. But if you just use jt occasionally and dont need timely notification, try using Servicely to disable wakelock/services of the app (requires root and may break the app, but you can just enable those disabled things to restore the app).
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kezzuki said:
hummm...well right now im on blu_spark and this is the best battery life i am getting. My set up is described here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/development/kernel-t3944179/post79844206
i think im stuck in the same shoe as you cus i rely on Wechat,google sync and a Bluetooth fitness band so the device is going to use quite a bit battery but i managed to get this far...
And battery life is what i require most out of a phone lol
here is a screen shot of battery usesage, its still early in the day but.
I expect screen on consumption will go to about 7.5~8% / hour when the day goes by, like usual.
One interesting thing is that, lol, i never tried stock kernel lol And seeing (in this thread) how people get good sot with stock kernel makes me wanna try it lol will give it a shot over the weekend
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Well yours stats look great, I would like to have stats like that as you said, using BT devices connected and messaging app I know I will not hit crazy SoT but still I want a bit better cause as you said battery is like too 1 priority for me I see we are very similar users thanks, in fact I didn't try blue-spark so far, I will give it a shot! I know standy drain will be laso related to Wi-Fi / 4g coverage (low signal = big drain) but I don't think I have such bad signal so I won't to get at least not more that 1% idlle drain per hour and 8-9% on screen and I'm good.
BTW what's your screen brightness usually?
spawnn617 said:
Well yours stats look great, I would like to have stats like that as you said, using BT devices connected and messaging app I know I will not hit crazy SoT but still I want a bit better cause as you said battery is like too 1 priority for me I see we are very similar users thanks, in fact I didn't try blue-spark so far, I will give it a shot! I know standy drain will be laso related to Wi-Fi / 4g coverage (low signal = big drain) but I don't think I have such bad signal so I won't to get at least not more that 1% idlle drain per hour and 8-9% on screen and I'm good.
BTW what's your screen brightness usually?
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yea lol our needs are very similar.
I just set screen brightness to auto, which changes between 30% ~ 50% when im indoor, whihc is like 90% of time. Then the rest is outdoor at noon lunch time during which screen goes to full brightness for a while.
Oh i also use OLED friendly wall papers and black theme in apps if available.
Ok so your screen brightness and setting (dark theme etc) is same as mine, so this is trsnge why I'm getting almost 2x worse drain... Must try this kernel.
spawnn617 said:
Ok so your screen brightness and setting (dark theme etc) is same as mine, so this is trsnge why I'm getting almost 2x worse drain... Must try this kernel.
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i also forgot to mention that, with PlusBeat, the screen off drain goes up to 1.2 per hour.....and that is because of the wakeups...so i disabled it lol
7+ hours