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Hi. Im fairly new to the Android OS. I just switched from an iphone. And ive been seeing/hearing a lot of talk about rooting, flashing roms, etc. I know that there are probably many threads on this, but I just wanted to know what are the pros and cons of rooting, flashing roms and such. And if I decide to do so, how do I? What rom would be best (for my sgs4g)? Sorry if this was too muxh to ask. Thanks in advance
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edwenoid said:
Hi. Im fairly new to the Android OS. I just switched from an iphone. And ive been seeing/hearing a lot of talk about rooting, flashing roms, etc. I know that there are probably many threads on this, but I just wanted to know what are the pros and cons of rooting, flashing roms and such. And if I decide to do so, how do I? What rom would be best (for my sgs4g)? Sorry if this was too muxh to ask. Thanks in advance
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Well right now, the best ROM you can have is Gingerbread, which just came out recently.
Rooting is very similar to Jailbreaking when it comes to iPhone; it allows you to perform speed tweaks, and enable functionality not available on standard software.
As for flashing these ROMs, make sure you download a program called ODIN.
Before that, install the Samsung USB Drivers and read THIS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028
I compiled a few tutorials on some various tweaks on my site as well, and have a few download links for files if you need them.
Good luck!
danstheman7 said:
Well right now, the best ROM you can have is Gingerbread, which just came out recently.
Rooting is very similar to Jailbreaking when it comes to iPhone; it allows you to perform speed tweaks, and enable functionality not available on standard software.
As for flashing these ROMs, make sure you download a program called ODIN.
Before that, install the Samsung USB Drivers and read THIS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849028
I compiled a few tutorials on some various tweaks on my site as well, and have a few download links for files if you need them.
Good luck!
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Im not sure that Gingerbread would be the best choice right now for someone just starting out. It appears that the ROM that whitehawkx just releases still has a few bugs to be worked out. I would say that Bionix is probably a better choice for the moment.
Hah thanks. But I just had a few more questions. Do I need to be rooted to install gingerbread? Is flashing necessary? And is installing the new software just as easy as jailbreaking like an iphone?
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First off. Post in the correct section. This belongs in General. Please try searching before making a new thread. You know that this has been answered several times in multiple threads. I came from and Iphone too and I took the time to do the research. First just go to the Bible for SGS 4G. You'll find it here in this section. Make sure you read everything. I too was a noob but I took the time to read everything before posting a new thread on what's been answered just for your convenience.
edwenoid said:
Hah thanks. But I just had a few more questions. Do I need to be rooted to install gingerbread? Is flashing necessary? And is installing the new software just as easy as jailbreaking like an iphone?
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I would suggest doing TONS of reading on all the topics related to flashing/rooting/etc... Another reason why I think Gingerbread would be a bad choice for you right now is because I don't think ClockworkMod works with it yet. Without CWM you won't be able to do things like installing zips from your SD card and doing complete backups of your phone in case you mess something up. Yes, you will need to be rooted in order to flash to a new ROM. Flashing is only necessary if you want a ROM. Like what you have? Then don't flash.
Android is a pretty easy OS to use when you get used to it. But make sure that you take it slow and read everything carefully. Hope this helps.
Thanks for all the feedback everyone.. I'll be sure to look into this morw before I decide what to do.
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yentlequible said:
Im not sure that Gingerbread would be the best choice right now for someone just starting out. It appears that the ROM that whitehawkx just releases still has a few bugs to be worked out. I would say that Bionix is probably a better choice for the moment.
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Ehh, I've been running on Gingerbread and aside from a single bluetooth issue, I really have no complaints.
Bionix is a good choice too, though. You may be right in suggesting that as a beginners ROM.
So, Go with Bionix, edwenoid, it'll allow you to do many more tweaks.
Remember, this might seem pretty complicated at first, but I've had a Galaxy S 4G for only about a month now and i'm not too bad at this whole tweaking thingamajig
Thread closed please search before you post.
Hey guys, I was wondering whether there is a rom out there that has been rooted, but otherwise has had nothing else changed? I like the custom roms and everything, but something somewhere never quite works properly. Any suggestions?
Mansn said:
Hey guys, I was wondering whether there is a rom out there that has been rooted, but otherwise has had nothing else changed? I like the custom roms and everything, but something somewhere never quite works properly. Any suggestions?
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You can't just root your phone...?
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Well, I have the Vodafone crapware on my ROM, so I just want a good stock rom that is rooted. For my old Hero there were a couple around that could be flashed very easily.
I'm using virtuous sensation v1.0.1 and its pretty much the same as stock. Very fast and stable.
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Ahh I guess I don't have to start a new thread to ask my question.
All I want is for me to be able to use titanium backup to remove bloatware, rom manager to back things up, and change the pink bootup T-Mobile crap. Will I simply be able to root, add those apps and proceed?
Thanks for the help in advance
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yes, you will be able to root.
1.) s-off
2.) permRoot
you don't need titaniumbackup to uninstall bloatware. simply use the rootexplorer. navigate to system/app and delete that apps you don't want to be on your phone. but don't forget to mount r/w. and before you do so, make a nandroid backup!
How do we perma root without screwing up our WIFI, yet stay with stock ROM? Seems NO ONE has addressed this here on the forum. Suggesting a custom ROM is a bandaid solution.
Matt
mrg02d said:
How do we perma root without screwing up our WIFI, yet stay with stock ROM? Seems NO ONE has addressed this here on the forum. Suggesting a custom ROM is a bandaid solution.
Matt
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What are you talking about? Just above here in this thread people said you can simply to S-OFF and then root the phone without changing the ROM at all?
It doesn't break wifi...
lessthanjoey said:
What are you talking about? Just above here in this thread people said you can simply to S-OFF and then root the phone without changing the ROM at all?
It doesn't break wifi...
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No where did they mention how to root. Many people are losing their wifi doing the regular method that is in the massive guide, so they wind up going back to stock. It is not guaranteed to mess up wifi, but if it does, you are just unlucky. (As of now).
I would like to know how others are rooting (perm.) without having these issues.
Matt
I think the responses in this thread pretty much sum up why we want a rooted yet otherwise untouched ROM. From my flashing experience in the past I have found it *extremely* difficult to find a ROM where everything just works. Some well meant tweak always ends up causing some bizarre problem somewhere down the line.
mrg02d said:
No where did they mention how to root. Many people are losing their wifi doing the regular method that is in the massive guide, so they wind up going back to stock. It is not guaranteed to mess up wifi, but if it does, you are just unlucky. (As of now).
I would like to know how others are rooting (perm.) without having these issues.
Matt
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Fair enough - I just flashed the root zip that the Revolution guys linked to and haven't had a single issue.
EDIT: actually it looks like this is solved - just use the correct (newer) su zip as shown in this post
Yep. I'm a noob, i admit it.
I know nothing about what i'm doing (yet) but i'm not a complete noob with computers.
I understand flashing is basically changing the firmware/OS in the phone.
So i need help getting started, and a few questions answered.
First off, I'm a T-mobile myfamily user, with an unlocked tmobile/att phone.(lg G2x P999dw i believe)
Will rooting it screw up my service, or will t-mobile never know the difference?
Is there some Up-to-date easy root? and up to date version of the 2.3.3 software for it?
most of the posts i find are from a year ago or more.. i don't like things to be that far out of date..
Is it going to make me have to re-install all my apps? I have a couple gigs worth on my phone and SD card, it would be a pain to get them back. (including my progress on sims freeplay )
To start i'm interested in just rooting with the version i already have(to get rid of most of the ads in free games/apps ) .. but i see there's a lot of builds out there, is there a stable android ICS for my phone, if i decided i wanted to try it out? (linked to the safe/easy flash/root question above)
The last question was because i don't like being left behind, this phone is a lot of fun with 3d games, why haven't they updated the version of android it's running? or does someone know that an update for this phone is coming?
i also want to know what apps are safe to remove. Like.. is the t-mobile my account removable? I don't use it, it's for standard t-mobile, not "myfamily" (Walmart) , and i login through the website to check my bill. .so it's not needed.
Also, the facebook and twitter apps are useless to me, i don't do "social networks"
Sorry if this seems like a lot, but feel free to quote and slice it into smaller parts. I'll be adding this page to my bookmarks and checking it often (daily or more) and try to respond posts. As well, i'm going to post an image of my phone info from the phone itself
Please go easy on me, I'm not a linux user, so i don't have full grasp of what i'm doing.
IIRC there's a dedicated thread about rooting and all. You should check it out.
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Eve_brea said:
Yep. I'm a noob, i admit it.
I know nothing about what i'm doing (yet) but i'm not a complete noob with computers.
I understand flashing is basically changing the firmware/OS in the phone.
So i need help getting started, and a few questions answered.
First off, I'm a T-mobile myfamily user, with an unlocked tmobile/att phone.(lg G2x P999dw i believe)
Will rooting it screw up my service, or will t-mobile never know the difference?
Is there some Up-to-date easy root? and up to date version of the 2.3.3 software for it?
most of the posts i find are from a year ago or more.. i don't like things to be that far out of date..
Is it going to make me have to re-install all my apps? I have a couple gigs worth on my phone and SD card, it would be a pain to get them back. (including my progress on sims freeplay )
To start i'm interested in just rooting with the version i already have(to get rid of most of the ads in free games/apps ) .. but i see there's a lot of builds out there, is there a stable android ICS for my phone, if i decided i wanted to try it out? (linked to the safe/easy flash/root question above)
The last question was because i don't like being left behind, this phone is a lot of fun with 3d games, why haven't they updated the version of android it's running? or does someone know that an update for this phone is coming?
i also want to know what apps are safe to remove. Like.. is the t-mobile my account removable? I don't use it, it's for standard t-mobile, not "myfamily" (Walmart) , and i login through the website to check my bill. .so it's not needed.
Also, the facebook and twitter apps are useless to me, i don't do "social networks"
Sorry if this seems like a lot, but feel free to quote and slice it into smaller parts. I'll be adding this page to my bookmarks and checking it often (daily or more) and try to respond posts. As well, i'm going to post an image of my phone info from the phone itself
Please go easy on me, I'm not a linux user, so i don't have full grasp of what i'm doing.
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Rooting won't effect your plan, sometimes depending on the rom you many lost a bar or gain a bar with your signal... But so much as of a stable ICS rom, I'm running Hellfire Sandwich 1.7 (dirty version) and it is very stable and smooth... Also so much as having to reinstall all your apps and data, you can get Titanium Backup from the Play Store it will backup all apps plus the data that goes along with the app and after you flash a new rom just restore the backup from Titanium Backup and your good to go
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Eve_brea said:
Yep. I'm a noob, i admit it.
I know nothing about what i'm doing (yet) but i'm not a complete noob with computers.
I understand flashing is basically changing the firmware/OS in the phone.
So i need help getting started, and a few questions answered.
First off, I'm a T-mobile myfamily user, with an unlocked tmobile/att phone.(lg G2x P999dw i believe)
Will rooting it screw up my service, or will t-mobile never know the difference?
Is there some Up-to-date easy root? and up to date version of the 2.3.3 software for it?
most of the posts i find are from a year ago or more.. i don't like things to be that far out of date..
Is it going to make me have to re-install all my apps? I have a couple gigs worth on my phone and SD card, it would be a pain to get them back. (including my progress on sims freeplay )
To start i'm interested in just rooting with the version i already have(to get rid of most of the ads in free games/apps ) .. but i see there's a lot of builds out there, is there a stable android ICS for my phone, if i decided i wanted to try it out? (linked to the safe/easy flash/root question above)
The last question was because i don't like being left behind, this phone is a lot of fun with 3d games, why haven't they updated the version of android it's running? or does someone know that an update for this phone is coming?
i also want to know what apps are safe to remove. Like.. is the t-mobile my account removable? I don't use it, it's for standard t-mobile, not "myfamily" (Walmart) , and i login through the website to check my bill. .so it's not needed.
Also, the facebook and twitter apps are useless to me, i don't do "social networks"
Sorry if this seems like a lot, but feel free to quote and slice it into smaller parts. I'll be adding this page to my bookmarks and checking it often (daily or more) and try to respond posts. As well, i'm going to post an image of my phone info from the phone itself
Please go easy on me, I'm not a linux user, so i don't have full grasp of what i'm doing.
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First, rooting is kinda an inside joke around here. We don't root the g2x, we Nvflash CWM 5020, 5028, 5813, your choice here. Then the first thing you do after this is make a nandroid back up. After this, if you are in fact on the march baseband, just flash either kwes rooted stock or buru's mildly tweaked stock. The roms come rooted. With the nvflashed cwm, you really need to f up to brick the g2x, it's almost unbrickable after Nvflash, almost. About our threads, where are you reading the year plus old threads? Most of our threads are current here. Any questions, you could pm just about anyone on these boards and they'll help you.
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there lies the issue , people go back to all the technical jargon, when i have no idea what i'm doing yet.
I paid 220 bucks for this phone, and currently have no money to buy another, so i'd rather not brick it.
if nobody can sorta.. hold my hand, then i may just stay how i am.
Use this to flash clockworkmod recovery. It includes instructions. Also check out the FAQ and stickies at the top of the dev section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
Find the rom you want to use, save it on ur SD card and remember where it is. (If it isn't a stock rom you will also have to download/flash gapps (Google apps).
Once u install cwm (from the above link), boot into cwm holding power and volume down till u get past the LG boot screen. Then go to backup/restore. Back up ur current rom. Then wipe data and cach. And then depending on your baseband, install zip with new rom from SD.
This is pretty much the jist of it.. when I was looking into it, I researched for weeks before I even asked a question, so I could understand all this geek speak.
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see? this is what i mean, that thread is from mid 2011.. almost a year ago.
i want to be sure i'm using the newest , most stable, of everything
I also don't want to lose my apps, or their data.
If you just want to just root the firmware you have right now then you can forget about Clockwork Recovery and simply refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661657
The link above contains two easy, newbie-friendly programs to root your phone. I do have a bias toward the one I posted only because it doesn't ask you to install unrelated apps while you root (it does, however, ask for a donation). Before you root, go to Settings > Applications > Development and check "USB Debugging".
If you want to install a custom firmware then you can follow instructions for Clockwork Recovery (this thread was updated about a month ago and contains the latest versions of Clockwork Recovery).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054492
If that's too hard then you can use the thread rbryant1983 pointed to as that method is still relevant. After you install Clockwork Recovery then we can help you from there in installing custom firmware.
Everything you do is at your own risk.
Eve_brea said:
see? this is what i mean, that thread is from mid 2011.. almost a year ago.
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Tga updates his threads. His last update was 4/28/2012... less than a month ago..
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rbryant1983 said:
Tga updates his threads. His last update was 4/28/2012... less than a month ago..
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Ahh, didn't even notice that. There you go, an up-to-date thread.
Your PC, is it Windows or Mac?
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pc, windows 7
Hey buddy, I told you that you could pm almost anyone for help. If you need help, PM me, i work here, that should be sufficient I'm not trying to mess you around.
[email protected]
This is the guide I used: http://theunlockr.com/2011/05/03/how-to-flash-a-custom-recovery-image-on-the-t-mobile-g2x/
It gets no more simple than that. There is a set of explicit instructions WITH video..
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Hm. The only titanium backup i see that's free says rooted phone. I don't have money for the other right now..
Private Pyle said:
Ahh, didn't even notice that. There you go, an up-to-date thread.
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Most of the ROM threads that you'll see at the top of the Dev forums are up to date. Pay no mind to when the thread was started, because most developers just update the download links in the original post (op) to the lastest version of his or her rom. Also read through each ROM's thread for more information and not just the OP. You can view logs of changes and updates made to the rom, as well as get feedback on stability and bugs with the rom from users who have actually tried it.
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mustangtim49 said:
First, rooting is kinda an inside joke around here. We don't root the g2x, we Nvflash CWM 5020, 5028, 5813, your choice here. Then the first thing you do after this is make a nandroid back up. After this, if you are in fact on the march baseband, just flash either kwes rooted stock or buru's mildly tweaked stock. The roms come rooted. With the nvflashed cwm, you really need to f up to brick the g2x, it's almost unbrickable after Nvflash, almost. About our threads, where are you reading the year plus old threads? Most of our threads are current here. Any questions, you could pm just about anyone on these boards and they'll help you.
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For your information Mr. Stang, my G2x is rooted! Bahahahaha
hey mine too and running ics owains 77 with new baseband. g2x is the way to go
So. I got all this figured out. Tried a few roms. I've been using Eaglesblood for a bit now... they're supposed to be making a 4.1 port... but the one for my phone is only alpha, and crashed a lot when i tried it..
I wish it was easy to switch roms without losing apps.
oh, and eaglesblood 4.0.1 or whatever it is doesn't do the "auto-download apps fro mgoogle" thing. I had to use app backup-restore, several times... doing too many at once made the thing crash.
Eve_brea said:
So. I got all this figured out. Tried a few roms. I've been using Eaglesblood for a bit now... they're supposed to be making a 4.1 port... but the one for my phone is only alpha, and crashed a lot when i tried it..
I wish it was easy to switch roms without losing apps.
oh, and eaglesblood 4.0.1 or whatever it is doesn't do the "auto-download apps fro mgoogle" thing. I had to use app backup-restore, several times... doing too many at once made the thing crash.
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Try paranoidandroid ICS or JB build 12 or build 7 respectively. Its alot better than the EGB brand.
Buy TitaniumPro from market. It helps to backup user apps thru it so that you don't have to manually install evrything back.
cricketAC said:
Try paranoidandroid ICS or JB build 12 or build 7 respectively. Its alot better than the EGB brand.
Buy TitaniumPro from market. It helps to backup user apps thru it so that you don't have to manually install evrything back.
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I also find that when i install a new app, process system gets the whole "wait/ report/ close" pop up... that strikes me as bad.
No. I'm not buying titanium pro when app backup-restore does the same thing for free.
and where do i get said jb build 7?
I keep on getting this prompt saying I need to update my software, it'll just take a few minutes, etc. I rooted my phone just recently and want to make sure that if I update I won't lose my root privileges.
The reason I'd like to update us I'd like top see if it will fix the problem with the WiFi connection, I've completely lousy the ability top connect to WiFi.
Does anyone have any info in these issues?
Thanks
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Yes, you will lose your root. You can either use ota rootkeeper from the play store or my recommendation would be to just flash a ROM. CleanROM to be specific. It's based off the latest OTA. Flash that and the latest radio and you'll be golden. Best ROM available.
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choocher said:
I keep on getting this prompt saying I need to update my software, it'll just take a few minutes, etc. I rooted my phone just recently and want to make sure that if I update I won't lose my root privileges.
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If you install and activate OTARootkeeper, it will preserve your root. It's pretty much idiot-proof.
+1 for OTARootKeeper. It worked for me when my phone updated from 1.73 to 1.85.
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iElvis said:
If you install and activate OTARootkeeper, it will preserve your root. It's pretty much idiot-proof.
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It should be noted that OTA Rootkeeper is verified to work with the 1.85 OTA, but its not a sure thing for every OTA. Its possible that future OTA's may still break root, even with Rootkeeper. When future updates come out, safest to see if OTA Rootkeeper works for others before attempting yourself, unless you feel like being brave (I guess somebody has to be the guinea pig). Or to install the update by some other means, as they are often posted here in pre-rooted form and installable via recovery.
I think I'll do both. The only thing is, everybody talks about flashing a Rom as if I should know what that is, or how to do it. Sadly, I don't have the slightest clue. Does anyone have a link to a step by step instruction on how to do it?
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choocher said:
I think I'll do both. The only thing is, everybody talks about flashing a Rom as if I should know what that is, or how to do it. Sadly, I don't have the slightest clue. Does anyone have a link to a step by step instruction on how to do it?
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There are such things, but if you're that clueless, you should do some reading and researching about the general subject before doing anything with your phone. Don't do anything that a) you don't fully understands and b) don't know how to undo.
choocher said:
I think I'll do both. The only thing is, everybody talks about flashing a Rom as if I should know what that is, or how to do it. Sadly, I don't have the slightest clue. Does anyone have a link to a step by step instruction on how to do it?
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The reason why everybody talks like you should know what a ROM is is because this is xda-developers. This site is geared directly towards developers and users who root and flash ROMs and mods. It is pretty much understood that if you are on this site, you should at the very least know what a ROM is. There are other, more general Android sites out there that are for the average user but this is not one of those sites.
That said, if you check out the development section, you will see a whole bunch of threads for various ROMs and mods, I suggest checking them out and you will see what benefits they provide and how their experiences differ from the stock one. Flashing a ROM is a lot easier than you would think, and the benefits are endless. Everything you need to know about how to do it can be found here on xda, just look around a bit and you will find all the info you need. Good luck!
Thank you for the help and direction.
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No prob. If after doing some reading you still have questions, don't hesitate to ask. We're here to help
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i am new to the one s but not to flashing. i am coming from a galaxy s sprint epic. while i was on that, cm10.1 & 10.2 were great advancements to the stock gb which always seems to take forever for updates. but with this huge leap in smartphone power, do i really need to root & flash? even with all the bloatware that i don't use, the phone is very fast. and i can get two days easily from my battery (which i charge every night so that's not an issue). i used to flash just to have the latest but i think i just want functionality. also, i don't put that much on my phone so 16g should be plenty, even with all the bloatware. not that i wouldn't flash to get better use out of my device but i just don't think i need to. please convince my otherwise.
Root just to try new roms or mods that improve your experience. Otherwise no need
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The stock experience is great IMO. Only point in rooting is to remove bloatware
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I'm surprised--
You joined in 2008 and still posted in wrong section
You have flashed roms before and still curious to the benefits of rooting
No disrespect--just a thread you would expect a new member/user to start
Either way, Happy New Year to you and all--
thedarkside44 said:
Root just to try new roms or mods that improve your experience. Otherwise no need
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Once youve been rooted, you cant be without root, regardless of ROM.
There are plenty of benefits in rooting even on stock roms.
Infact, a non-rooted device is like a windows PC with only access to your desktop...
rugmankc said:
I'm surprised--
You joined in 2008 and still posted in wrong section
You have flashed roms before and still curious to the benefits of rooting
No disrespect--just a thread you would expect a new member/user to start
Either way, Happy New Year to you and all--
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should i have posted in Q&A? i thought i did. i even had to go through statistics to see where i started this thread because i couldn't find it in Q&A. if i should've posted somewhere else, whoops, feel free to move.
Goatshocker said:
Once youve been rooted, you cant be without root, regardless of ROM.
There are plenty of benefits in rooting even on stock roms.
Infact, a non-rooted device is like a windows PC with only access to your desktop...
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explain why?
why?
i guess i wasn't clear. i know the benefits of root. i've been flashing roms on my last 3 devices. the answers i was trying get were more along the lines of what are the main changes people are making to their stock phones. does all the bloatware inhibit speed or limit space? are there roms or tweeks that people can't live without? or do people unlock, root and flash just because they like to mess with their phones/have the latest even if it doesn't work correctly?
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should i have posted in Q&A? i thought i did. i even had to go through statistics to see where i started this thread because i couldn't find it in Q&A. if i should've posted somewhere else, whoops, feel free to move.
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No, it is in General--It's all good--
When I get my Note 2/3 I will probably only root for Nandroids and Titanium BackUp. I think that phone and maybe SGSIV may stand on their own without a need to flash roms. Might be wrong though-- There are still more sweets after Jelly Beans--
Your last question answered your own question. Today's smartphones don't really require root, UNLESS you like tweaking your phone.....which most of us love to do, otherwise we wouldn't be here. You can easily get rid of bloatware with a new launcher. IE: Nova or Apex are my favorites. Just disable and hide them, you'll never see them again. Back in the day people rooted mainly to get the latest OS quicker....these days the newer smartphones already come with the latest OS, so it's all a matter of whether you like tweaking your phone or not. There are still great benefits to rooting, but these days it's more personal preference over flashing the latest OS.
Just my 2 cents.
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only1penny said:
explain why?
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I can explain it in one word: Control.
I want to be in charge of the device, not letting the device be in charge of me. If you want that you might as well go with apple, who makes good devices with a terrible OS, imo.
Well I will root my htc one s because the latest update to 4.1 is crap. My battery drains so fast. So if I don't find a solution for this I might downgrade back to ics 4.04 or maybe a better custom rom...otherwise I would've kept the rom not rooted. Especialy because now we can disable an app that it is not usefull.
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TheFreediver said:
Well I will root my htc one s because the latest update to 4.1 is crap. My battery drains so fast. So if I don't find a solution for this I might downgrade back to ics 4.04 or maybe a better custom rom...otherwise I would've kept the rom not rooted. Especialy because now we can disable an app that it is not usefull.
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is it just the official update that is bad? or is it a jb thing that hasn't been worked out. battery is huge for me.
only1penny said:
is it just the official update that is bad? or is it a jb thing that hasn't been worked out. battery is huge for me.
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Can't comment on stock but Blackout rom has been good for me.
I root because you can never seem to turn the screen brightness down far enough without root access, that and I don't like being locked out of a file system by manufacturers who don't trust my common sense.
I flash only when a device is older and/or no longer getting updated and something like CM gives me a major improvement.
Even if you want to run a stock ROM, unlocking/rooting (and flashing a custom recovery) enables you to make and restore nandroid backups and use tools like Titanium. It's also makes it easier to repair if you ever run into trouble like boot loops.