After a S2, Note 2, Note 3 and now a Galaxy S6 I didnt expect this.
My S6 after boot use more than 1.2 GB of System RAM which is simply insane compared to my Note 3 on stock Samsung lollipop or any other Android phone.
My applications get booted out of RAM all the time, Is this a problem with 920F or all variants of S6?
Simply unacceptable on a flagship device with 3 GB RAM.
Thanks for taking time to reply
Every phone i've owned has done this to some extent especially Samsung phones. Don't expect and you won't be let down. Don't expect a fix any time soon as all the phones you listed behave in the same manner (except they're slower)
Jonathan-H said:
Every phone i've owned has done this to some extent especially Samsung phones. Don't expect and you won't be let down. Don't expect a fix any time soon as all the phones you listed behave in the same manner (except they're slower)
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Seriously, you for real? youre statement is simply not true at all.
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/27/samsung-galaxy-s6-gets-its-first-post-android-5-1-1-update/
according to the comments in that article there seem to be some improvement in RAM memory usage after that patch.
how do we check RAM? It's not in storage like it used to be....
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how do we check RAM? It's not in storage like it used to be....
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settings
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check System RAM usage
I think a little higher RAM doesn't effect liquidity.
It's all touchwiz it's just a resource hog. My s5 running fusion ROM 5.1.1 just flies and barely uses 800 MB RAM.
Well if ever cyanogenmod comes to S6 it's bye bye TouchWiz, I'm pretty happy with phone now except this RAM issue, using unikernel and performance governor on both a53 and A57.
However I am so tired of this Samsung software that always is supposed to be fixed and never is. Gonna check out Motorola Style and One Plus Two to see if the grass is greener on the other side.
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Well if ever cyanogenmod comes to S6 it's bye bye TouchWiz, I'm pretty happy with phone now except this RAM issue, using unikernel and performance governor on both a53 and A57.
However I am so tired of this Samsung software that always is supposed to be fixed and never is. Gonna check out Motorola Style and One Plus Two to see if the grass is greener on the other side.
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Check The New Motorola Moto X Pure Edition
maybe is best than galaxy s6
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Now that Gingerbread has been written by google for a Galaxy S phone that is very similar in specs to the Galaxy S line, will it be fully optimized?
Will we see big jumps in benchmarks like the Nexus One did when it received Froyo? Is the reason why the Nexus One and its variants received a big benchmark boost was because Android wrote Froyo for it?
I dont think 2.3 will come to captivate....And also, would the GPS been fixed??? Im going to sell my captivate and buy some HTC....
That is ridiculous situation...we are a several months waiting for 2.2 and so far nothing...We are several months waiting for some GPS fix...and so far nothing yet....
AT&T does not care about the customers if they are confortable with the 2.1 only or not....Neither Samsung....WE ARE LOST....hurt me to say that...
But thats how i feel...IM FEEL LIKE A FOOL...
sorry, dont get me wrong....
I doubt with Samsung's record of slow updates and bug fixes we'll ever see an official port of Gingerbread to the Galaxy S. Custom ROM's much more likely but I guess they will be a while.
As for speed increase... Don't hold your breath. I've got the official Froyo 2.2 running on my UK Galaxy S and it boosted my Quadrant benchmark score from 800+ (Eclair) to only 900+ (Froyo) (Nexus One with Froyo 1250). Custom ROM's apparently give better scores. Problem? Samsung again... they use a different file system on the Galaxy S (and I believe the American equivalents) than the official Android one and this slows the device and causes most of the lag problems on it. Watching the Quadrant benchmark the Galaxy flies through the graphics and CPU tests and grinds to a halt when it tries to complete the write to memory test... Froyo didn't help and I doubt an official Gingerbread update would either. I'm afraid flashing an unofficial ROM is the only way to get speed. It can be risky though...
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I doubt with Samsung's record of slow updates and bug fixes we'll ever see an official port of Gingerbread to the Galaxy S. Custom ROM's much more likely but I guess they will be a while.
As for speed increase... Don't hold your breath. I've got the official Froyo 2.2 running on my UK Galaxy S and it boosted my Quadrant benchmark score from 800+ (Eclair) to only 900+ (Froyo) (Nexus One with Froyo 1250). Custom ROM's apparently give better scores. Problem? Samsung again... they use a different file system on the Galaxy S (and I believe the American equivalents) than the official Android one and this slows the device and causes most of the lag problems on it. Watching the Quadrant benchmark the Galaxy flies through the graphics and CPU tests and grinds to a halt when it tries to complete the write to memory test... Froyo didn't help and I doubt an official Gingerbread update would either. I'm afraid flashing an unofficial ROM is the only way to get speed. It can be risky though...
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Quadrant is a poor indicator of overall performance, which is why an ext2-loopback lagfixed rom will show astronomical scores (2300+) in Quadrant - because it is essentially telling quadrant exactly what it wants to hear. The score is artificial and doesn't reflect how the device will actually perform (not to imply that the lagfixes don't make the phone more responsive or anything, simply making the point that quadrant is a poor benchmark).
The differences you'll see between 2.1 and 2.2 are an increase in processing power and battery life due to the JIT. It's a bit difficult to test this due to outside battery-eating variables (things syncing over the network in the background, quality of reception and radio power levels, etc.), so your ability to notice a difference may vary depending on your phone usage style and environment.
Also, you can use linpack to get an idea of the processing power increase. You'll notice that it doubles between 2.1->2.2. I should warn you that it's not really comparable to the Nexus One, simply because the cpu architecture is different and linpack is geared to take advantage of it - the n1's snapdragon has a 128bit simd fpu whereas the hummingbird has a 64bit fpu, so the increase in speed will show up as 4x-5x for the n1 between 2.1->2.2. Again, this does not translate into a 4x increase in real world performance. I only mentioned linpack to demonstrate the relative speed increase between stock 2.1 for the galaxy S and 2.2, and to show that the JIT is indeed boosting the processing speed.
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Now that Gingerbread has been written by google for a Galaxy S phone that is very similar in specs to the Galaxy S line, will it be fully optimized?
Will we see big jumps in benchmarks like the Nexus One did when it received Froyo? Is the reason why the Nexus One and its variants received a big benchmark boost was because Android wrote Froyo for it?
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To my understanding, 2.3 is essentially a more optimized 2.2. I doubt that the results of the optimizations will be as large as the introduction of the JIT was in 2.2, but every little bit helps - and look on the bright side, it won't be any slower than 2.2.
I don't think we'll really know how well the Nexus S roms will run on our phones or how easy they'll be to port over until we actually get our hands on an NS rom (still don't know what filesystem it uses or how big of an obstacle the filesystem will present). However, since the fundamental architecture is so similar, I don't really expect many problems and I expect the 2.3 builds to run great.
Edit: I don't expect Samsung or ATT to release 2.3 for our phones. I actually wouldn't be surprised if ATT refused a gingerbread update for our captivates, even if Samsung offered it. What I meant above was that I expect whatever custom roms we cook up based off of the NS builds to run great.
When do we start speculating about Honeycomb?
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When do we start speculating about Honeycomb?
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When someone in our family (Galaxy S Line) gets it, which will definitely be the Nexus S.
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When someone in our family (Galaxy S Line) gets it, which will definitely be the Nexus S.
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Why wait... it is all guessing anyway. I think anything we say about Honeycomb has an equally good chance at being accurate as what we say about Gingerbread.
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Why wait... it is all guessing anyway. I think anything we say about Honeycomb has an equally good chance at being accurate as what we say about Gingerbread.
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I don't think you really understand my question.
The nexus one was a developer phone that had a snapdragon in it. Google, the creator of Android, directly engineered their software to be optimized on the device because it was their developer device.
Now that a Galaxy S phone is a developer phone, I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the software engineering side to the Nexus one to guess if google built 2.3 from the ground up for the Nexus S, or can/could heavily optimized the code for it.
Now you're question is to speculate about Honeycomb, speculate what? There's nothing to discuss about it, but my question is legit from an engineering stand point. So I'm still left wondering if this is the case or not, I wonder if there is anyone that can enlighten me.
Would be a nice pipe dream for an offical update.
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I don't think you really understand my question.
The nexus one was a developer phone that had a snapdragon in it. Google, the creator of Android, directly engineered their software to be optimized on the device because it was their developer device.
Now that a Galaxy S phone is a developer phone, I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the software engineering side to the Nexus one to guess if google built 2.3 from the ground up for the Nexus S, or can/could heavily optimized the code for it.
Now you're question is to speculate about Honeycomb, speculate what? There's nothing to discuss about it, but my question is legit from an engineering stand point. So I'm still left wondering if this is the case or not, I wonder if there is anyone that can enlighten me.
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And you don't understand my point: No one knows. We might as well speculate about honeycomb. The Nexus S has a different momory mudule iNand not moviNand. What impact will this have? No one knows until they have phones in hand.
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And you don't understand my point: No one knows. We might as well speculate about honeycomb. The Nexus S has a different momory mudule iNand not moviNand. What impact will this have? No one knows until they have phones in hand.
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What about the CPU though? The memory for the Nexus One and Droid Incredible were different, but yet because they shared the same CPUs they received similar benchmark scores in that department.
What does it matter everyone is going to flash custom ROMS of Gingerbread when/if it ever somehow leaks for our phones.
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As for speed increase... Don't hold your breath. I've got the official Froyo 2.2 running on my UK Galaxy S and it boosted my Quadrant benchmark score from 800+ (Eclair) to only 900+ (Froyo) (Nexus One with Froyo 1250). Custom ROM's apparently give better scores. Problem? Samsung again... they use a different file system on the Galaxy S (and I believe the American equivalents) than the official Android one and this slows the device and causes most of the lag problems on it. Watching the Quadrant benchmark the Galaxy flies through the graphics and CPU tests and grinds to a halt when it tries to complete the write to memory test... Froyo didn't help and I doubt an official Gingerbread update would either. I'm afraid flashing an unofficial ROM is the only way to get speed. It can be risky though...
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This is one of the things that I am optimistic about. Android 2.3 adds support for devices with large internal storage capacities - my understanding is that it was Samsung's poor attempt to hack that support into 2.1 that introduced the issues you mention above. I'm hopeful that this means 2.3 would eliminate the need for lag fixes, and that the better support for some of the cutting edge hardware in the Galaxy S Phones being built into Gingerbread will make it much easier for Samsung to push 2.3 out for our phones.
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This is one of the things that I am optimistic about. Android 2.3 adds support for devices with large internal storage capacities - my understanding is that it was Samsung's poor attempt to hack that support into 2.1 that introduced the issues you mention above. I'm hopeful that this means 2.3 would eliminate the need for lag fixes, and that the better support for some of the cutting edge hardware in the Galaxy S Phones being built into Gingerbread will make it much easier for Samsung to push 2.3 out for our phones.
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Can you elaborate? Coz AFAIK RFS has nothing to do with Samsung's attempt to make a pitiful 16 GB work as internal sd card..
From what I understand, the movinand flash which Galaxy S , when used in RFS performed horribly when doing sync operations (I think I got it from the thread ryanza posted), so, the new flash might as well be Samsung's attempt to correct that error, instead of replacing the (seemingly crap) RFS ..
I have recently seen a YouTube video in which ICS was running perfectly on the Nexus S.
Today I saw a story on Engadget.com that ICS is rolling over to Google employees (those all use Nexus S it seems), and the official release is due any day now.
[http://androidandme.com/2011/12/dev...campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)]
First of all, that's cool!
Second, why didn't we all chose to go with the NEXUS S?
Full support, source code in the open, immediate updates....
WHAT AM I MISSING?
Thanks
1.DUAL CORE a smooth as iOS if u may..
2.8 MP CAMERA with Half and FULL HD recording
4.STOCK android(if only g2x had not been with tegra 2 ICS ports would have been very very early for this device)
5.Awesome Build not as plasticy as NS
6.Tegra GAMES(official nor using plugins),
7.HDMI OUT and etc etc...
NS has only one advantage... quicker updates....nothin more literally.
just my thoughts.
I already had a Vibrant and wanted something faster. Nexus S was basically a Vibrant with better software and LESS storage.
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I already had a Vibrant and wanted something faster. Nexus S was basically a Vibrant with better software and LESS storage.
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Thanks. Are you suggesting that the Nexus S is SLOWER than the G2x?
Ok, so you right. Because I had a Vibrant as well, and did notice just how fast the G2x is. B-U-T, isn't ICS going to change that?
You don't choose a Nexus S because Samsung devices suck. Problematic hardware and questionable firmware. Nexus S is also a single core device and is basically a slightly updated Galaxy S device. Also, if they do a lower power shutdown the internal sd can get corrupted and if you have not previously unlocked the bootloader there is nothing you can do to fix the device and it is permanently soft bricked (has to be sent to Samsung for warranty replacement). The G2X is a far superior device.
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Thanks. Are you suggesting that the Nexus S is SLOWER than the G2x?
Ok, so you right. Because I had a Vibrant as well, and did notice just how fast the G2x is. B-U-T, isn't ICS going to change that?
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You don't choose a Nexus S because Samsung devices suck. Problematic hardware and questionable firmware. Nexus S is also a single core device and is basically a slightly updated Galaxy S device. Also, if they do a lower power shutdown the internal sd can get corrupted and if you have not previously unlocked the bootloader there is nothing you can do to fix the device and it is permanently soft bricked (has to be sent to Samsung for warranty replacement). The G2X is a far superior device.
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Too right, jboxer..... Although I liked certain things about my Vibrant, there were plenty I didn't. The thing I liked the MOST was the 16gb (12 usable) internal storage + SD Card, and the Nexus S took away the SD Card's additional storage.
And, we are CERTAINLY suggesting the Nexus S is slower than the G2X... single core processor for one... slower Ram if I'm not mistaken as well. Camera quality is worse.
And, ICS may be nice, but it isn't going to turn sow's ears into silk. That is, it won't make a phone any faster than it already is.
Have you looked at what ICS really is? As I in what it legitimately does that gingerbread doesn't?
Aside from looks (which are replicable with themes) its not that much.
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Have you looked at what ICS really is? As I in what it legitimately does that gingerbread doesn't?
Aside from looks (which are replicable with themes) its not that much.
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ICS will fully implement multi-thread processing, which Gingerbread doesn't do. That alone should speed up multi-core devices quite a bit. In Gingerbread the dual cores are inefficiently used.
I have both and I say both are GREAT.
NS has the very best speaker like other Samsung models, and voice quality is decent (not badly compressed like other Samsung)
AMOLED + Voodoo are prefect combination and I fine tuned the screen to perfection.
G2x with Eagleblood 2.4 is GOOD even there are few minor bugs.
It is VERY FAST (2500 on quadrant)
Good color screen (bleeding is minimal)
5GB+SD (I have not tried FAT64 FS microSDXC yet as it's not commercially available).
720p video recording (Google app)
Good stuff!
The reason I brought this issue up, is because me and a friend had a discussion about his next phone (he is now with Vibrant). I said that since him and I are total geeks when it comes to our devices (test every ROM, change themes, and we actually CARE about that stuff [i guess we are bored as well, even though we're not kids anymore] ), then the NUMBER ONE thing that we need to consider, is DEVELOPMENT!
If a device is a good device, but has no dev, no "action" when it comes to ROMs, tweaks, kernels and so on, than it's just not a fun device to own.
A device that is just "plain good" would be good for our wives (and indeed, how awful it was when I tried to show my wife why CM7 is awesome - wow that went bad , but not good for us geeksters
ICS is built for dual-core devices. ofcause nexus s will run ICS but i doubt it's any faster
if not for LG, devs could have released ICS port for G2x with hw acceleration(see the dev forum)
nexus is definitely slower than g2x. the only thing makes it good is official google support
i bought n9005 2 weeks ago .. when i used the mobile for 1st time i found the phone to be on android 4.4.2 .. anyway i always had a hunch from before that Samsung deliberately slows old models once the new models is released .. the telephone was like a bullet in speed and interface navigation and i liked it a lot .. so when i found ota update about 200 mb i refused to download and i was afraid that Samsung would mess with phone speed
i rooted the phone and disable Knox than i was afraid that my warrant would be voided so i unrooted and installed the ota update .. once the ota update was installed i noticed that speed on the phone was downed a notch .. sluggish stuttering interface and slowly opening apps and navigating in between .. i felt like i was on note 2 not 3 (relatively)
so what do you think ?! is Samsung really doing it !! .. i tried to reset the phone with no improvement at all .. and I am thinking of reverting software and downgrading even if warranty is voided
I didn't notice a slowdown when updating with Odin (It keeps the previous data). Never tried OTA though but it should not make any difference.
On the other hand, I noticed more speed and battery life on flashing Lean Kernel and S5 port by Jamal, so you can try that if you dont worry about knox.
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i bought n9005 2 weeks ago .. when i used the mobile for 1st time i found the phone to be on android 4.4.2 .. anyway i always had a hunch from before that Samsung deliberately slows old models once the new models is released .. the telephone was like a bullet in speed and interface navigation and i liked it a lot .. so when i found ota update about 200 mb i refused to download and i was afraid that Samsung would mess with phone speed
i rooted the phone and disable Knox than i was afraid that my warrant would be voided so i unrooted and installed the ota update .. once the ota update was installed i noticed that speed on the phone was downed a notch .. sluggish stuttering interface and slowly opening apps and navigating in between .. i felt like i was on note 2 not 3 (relatively)
so what do you think ?! is Samsung really doing it !! .. i tried to reset the phone with no improvement at all .. and I am thinking of reverting software and downgrading even if warranty is voided
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I have updated to N9005XXUGNH1 without any issue.
What version is your firmware before and after the update?
well i don't know what happened after the update but i reseted the phone and no apps at all and still not as smooth as before .. lets say every time you unlock the phone and start multi apps and return to home screen and navigate between different home pages it stutters there and it used to open apps instantaneously now there is a fraction of second late
my previous firmware was uend3 and the new one ugng1
i just want to know if anyone here share me my ideas and felt that Samsung is doing something quirky or this is just hallucinations
The new Touchwiz version's a bit sluggish(even more so than usual), so please tell me you're using a third party launcher.
You appear to be confusing Apple and Samsung. Apple have been doing this for years, check the speed of an iPhone 4S on iOs 8 if you want an example.
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The new Touchwiz version's a bit sluggish(even more so than usual), so please tell me you're using a third party launcher.
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well all my talk is about the touchwiz .. i used it at first and found it fast and smooth .. it is still fast and smooth but not like before the ota plus the occasional stuttering
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You appear to be confusing Apple and Samsung. Apple have been doing this for years, check the speed of an iPhone 4S on iOs 8 if you want an example.
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well difference between samsung and apple : apple publishes her new software as heavier and more options on a low powered processor .. while android usually publishes new software with the promise of more speed due to optimizing of software on high end processors
how come iphone 5s and 6 despite lesser hardware surpass android devices in benchmarks
Stop with the conspiracy theories please, I'm running stock ni4 and phone is flying.
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well difference between samsung and apple : apple publishes her new software as heavier and more options on a low powered processor .. while android usually publishes new software with the promise of more speed due to optimizing of software on high end processors
how come iphone 5s and 6 despite lesser hardware surpass android devices in benchmarks
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Because iOS can't run multiple processes actively at once. It's as simple as that.
There is no conspiracy. Samsung is not deliberately slowing the firmware down with new updates.
New updates bring more features on aging hardware.
Did you also clear the caches?
Touchwiz is sluggish, bloated and they keep adding stuff to it without optimizing it first. It's going to keep getting slower and heavier.
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I wonder if anyone has an explanation why this device feels slower than the 1+1... I know one runs vanilla android and the other runs tw, but I thought 64bit processor should kill it
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not sure if trolling or not
Why would he be trolling? It's a fact. I too have owned an OPO, and in comparison my S6 is quite sluggish.
If u guys ever owned s4 or even s3 with aosp rom then this comparing I must say is useless. I also have nexus 5 and its much faster in scrolling then s6 but AGAIN its pure android...
My Nexus 5 is quicker than my S6, hoping once updates or development picks up this will change.
In what ways is it slower?
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I find my N4 is much snappier than my S6. Entering my pin and scrolling is much faster on my N4
S6 is faster than all those phones mentioned above - animations are good as they point out to a more polished and build GUI. Kind of snappiness you guys are referring to which is found in vanilla android does not indicate faster performance but to the snappiness of GUI instead. On the other hand, open source nature of Android will always result in one app build better than the other depending on the developer and hours of work he has put out into his project.
I am not trolling. I believe it has to do with the processor speed. A 4 core clocked at 2.4ghz will feel faster than an octa core clocked at 1.4ghz. May be the difference is made when gaming. And yes also the nexus 5 feels way snappier.
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Also your talking about how fast the animations are programmed to be by each maker. Turn off all animations on both and see which launches faster.
I thought s6 is faster when open apps
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OS fluidity is miles ahead on stock android, Chrome on the S6 is just pitiful yet is smooth and fast on stock android and mny other skinned versions of android. Touchwiz and the underlying modifications Samsung makes to Android somehow makes it worse again in OS fluidity. The Galaxy S6 has the best specs of any smartphone out there and with it's faster storage can launch applications fractionally faster than other smartphones but overall the experience is superior on devices that do not run a skinned version of android.
Animations in general are smoother (Speed of animation is irrelevant its the smoothness of it) on stock android (Even 5.0.2 on the Nexus 5). 5.1.1 may save the Galaxy S6 (Atleast for me) because with the specs this phone has I expect much more int he way of fluidity. Having to root in order to somewhat fix the borked memory management (Which is not all down to Android 5.0.2) is unacceptable this device has 3GB of memory and runs/ran worse than my Nexus 5. Lets not even start about battery. Hopefully 5.1.1 will fix some of these issues otherwise its back to a Nexus 6 until the next Nexus or Moto X is released in Q4.
yeah no ****, its touchwiz vs stock android. samsung phones will always be slower than stock android phones that are a generation behind
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Also your talking about how fast the animations are programmed to be by each maker. Turn off all animations on both and see which launches faster.
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I am talking about how fast I can reach the last forum in xda for example. 1+1 beats s6 all day long. To me it seems kernel related and I remember franco saying same thing a while ago too. Talking about cpu speed. Everyday usage a quadcore cpu clocked at 2.4ghz feels faster than an octacore clocked at 1.4ghz. Reminds me of the old s4 running exynoss vs qualcomm lol
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I have an OPO as well and my S6 kills it in speed!
Multitasking is a whole other issue...
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I am talking about how fast I can reach the last forum in xda for example. 1+1 beats s6 all day long. To me it seems kernel related and I remember franco saying same thing a while ago too. Talking about cpu speed. Everyday usage a quadcore cpu clocked at 2.4ghz feels faster than an octacore clocked at 1.4ghz. Reminds me of the old s4 running exynoss vs qualcomm lol
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You on about scrolling down a page? If that's the case it's either Samsung's take on iphone scrolling, or it's the fact everyone is using Chrome which is the slowest browser on the planet.
As for the 1+1 and the N4 N5, they aren't any faster, they're just feature lacking and animations are a little smoother and more boring. Nova launcher and animation speed on S6 makes a big difference.
IF that isn't enough for everyone complaining, remember, the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts and Nexus and One plus phones are awful built with crap components overall.
Problem could be you have a TMobile Version carrier branded phone which not only adds Samsung bloat but also TMobile bloat. That's one of the reasons why I went with an international unlocked SM-G920F. I'm just fine with how fast my phone opens apps, scrolls, whatever. WAAAY faster than my old S4. I don't know how fast you guys need these phones to be.
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Problem could be you have a TMobile Version carrier branded phone which not only adds Samsung bloat but also TMobile bloat. That's one of the reasons why I went with an international unlocked SM-G920F. I'm just fine with how fast my phone opens apps, scrolls, whatever. WAAAY faster than my old S4. I don't know how fast you guys need these phones to be.
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I need it so fast it see's into the future for me
Thanks for the troll comment guys. But yes the 5.1.1 update made this phone snappier and feels as fast as 1+1 running blisspop rom with uber toolchain. Next time don't get too butthurt if you hear your phone is slow
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The 920F is faster than any other android phones I've used.
So I've been thinking of swapping out my Galaxy S6 for either a Oneplus two or Nexus 6P
It's not that I hate the galaxy S6 as it is, but the damn touchwiz sometimes ruins the experience. Considering the closed source nature of the Exynos, is there even a possibility in the near future for the S6 to have near stock android roms like Cyanogenmod? I do want to stay with the S6 because of the beastly exynos chip and the great camera, and also android marshmallow is coming near for the galaxy devices, it's just that the software is kinda laggy.
can you give me some of your thoughts?
There is an active github for development of a CM ROM. That said, I'm not dev savvy enough to know where it stands and don' want to bother the Dev as that is pretty close to an ETA question. But it is in the works. Not too thrilled with the new Nexus devices personally. too large in form factor or underwhelming in specs.
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There is an active github for development of a CM ROM. That said, I'm not dev savvy enough to know where it stands and don' want to bother the Dev as that is pretty close to an ETA question. But it is in the works. Not too thrilled with the new Nexus devices personally. too large in form factor or underwhelming in specs.
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Same. I'd really love to have an AOSP rom for the Galaxy S6. Only reason I'm looking forward for the nexus or onplus devices is because of the stock android experience. Tbh, Touchwiz can be kinda boring, and lagging sometimes. Not to mention the horrible RAM management. If it weren't for the Exynos chip, I would have gotten the Oneplus or Nexus devices lol
As of late, I've seen the thread where a certain dev was working on CM, but I think on the last post on that thread, i believe he closed it due to lack of people working on it. I dunno
Hopefully someone can clarify if there really is a dev working on an AOSP, I really want to stay with the S6.
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Same. I'd really love to have an AOSP rom for the Galaxy S6. Only reason I'm looking forward for the nexus or onplus devices is because of the stock android experience. Tbh, Touchwiz can be kinda boring, and lagging sometimes. Not to mention the horrible RAM management. If it weren't for the Exynos chip, I would have gotten the Oneplus or Nexus devices lol
As of late, I've seen the thread where a certain dev was working on CM, but I think on the last post on that thread, i believe he closed it due to lack of people working on it. I dunno
Hopefully someone can clarify if there really is a dev working on an AOSP, I really want to stay with the S6.
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With the proper kernel settings and ROM, this phone is as smooth as nexus device with much faster loading times for apps. Not to mention great multitasking (literally had 15 apps open at once and none of them reloaded) and amazing battery life ~6hr SOT. I can say that Vindicator kernel with xtrestolie is one of the best
There are some opengl problems with 5.1.1 tw roms. So the performance is not good as 5.0.1. I am also considering to change my phone to nexus 6P.
crzykiller said:
With the proper kernel settings and ROM, this phone is as smooth as nexus device with much faster loading times for apps. Not to mention great multitasking (literally had 15 apps open at once and none of them reloaded) and amazing battery life ~6hr SOT. I can say that Vindicator kernel with xtrestolie is one of the best
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I've recently installed xtroleti with Unikernel on it, set on Medium profile. Do you think the vindicator kernel is better? If so, on what terms?
damnn, still waiting if we'll ever have AOSP roms
I'm waiting for AOSP roms too. Thinking about selling my S6 to get a nexus 6p.
swa100 said:
I'm waiting for AOSP roms too. Thinking about selling my S6 to get a nexus 6p.
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to be honest, with the available custom roms and kernels right now for galaxy s6, the s6 runs almost 99 % smooth, no stuttering whatsoever. I'm using Xtrolite with unikernel set on medium profile, the device is flawless in terms of software (excluding the ram management of course).
but yeah, I'm really hoping for AOSP roms, particularly Cyanogenmod. Can someone confirm if certain devs are working on it? I'm willing to donate
Im pretty sure we will see cyanogenmod 13 aprox a month after the first marshmallow release of samsung for any exynos 7420 device.
reasons?
1. Big demand since there are 4 exynos 7420 devices (s6, s6 edge+, s6 edge plus and note 5)
2. This also means there is a bigger dev base compared to older exynos devices from samsung.
And srsly guys do you think the phone of the year wont get aosp? We just need a bit more patience.
1% near impossible, well at least a stable rom.
nadejo said:
Im pretty sure we will see cyanogenmod 13 aprox a month after the first marshmallow release of samsung for any exynos 7420 device.
reasons?
1. Big demand since there are 4 exynos 7420 devices (s6, s6 edge+, s6 edge plus and note 5)
2. This also means there is a bigger dev base compared to older exynos devices from samsung.
And srsly guys do you think the phone of the year wont get aosp? We just need a bit more patience.
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Theres no exynos sources so it could take months to even get the screen to work.
Rekan_ said:
Theres no exynos sources so it could take months to even get the screen to work.
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As it was the case on the s4 i9500 and s5 but still donne pretty well thanks to developers like arter.
nadejo said:
As it was the case on the s4 i9500 and s5 but still donne pretty well thanks to developers like arter.
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Yes, however, many developers don't even think of the S6 because of the S2 (CM built but LAGGY).
I doubt Arter would try to develop CM for the S6, he develops the Note 5 ROM which I use
Rekan_ said:
Yes, however, many developers don't even think of the S6 because of the S2 (CM built but LAGGY).
I doubt Arter would try to develop CM for the S6, he develops the Note 5 ROM which I use
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I use that aswell but there is someone else who portet already cm recovery. He also plans to build cm for the s6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/development/recovery-cyanogen-recovery-galaxy-s6-t3158428
and im pretty sure anything that was running on the s2 was laggy
shigi1231 said:
I've recently installed xtroleti with Unikernel on it, set on Medium profile. Do you think the vindicator kernel is better? If so, on what terms?
damnn, still waiting if we'll ever have AOSP roms
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Vindicator i personally think blows every kernel out of the water. Best battery life by far but performance does take a hit unless you get kernel aduitor and set enforcing mode to 1 in interactive governor settings for both cores. That will make your phone smoother than any other kernel by far. Battery life is still much better than any other kernel. GPU overclocking is also included which i like lol. The only problem is the very rare crash to lockscreen that sometimes happens on the test builds (which are the best ones).