Freezing Apps in a tottaly different way - General Questions and Answers

Freezing apps can give you an excellent battery life, but here's my million dollar question... I have apps i use two times every couple days but they still run in the background and drains battery life over time... Is there a way i can temporary/semi freeze where i only have to run my apps (eBay for example) then it starts using my battery WITHOUT having to freeze in Titanium Backup???
eBay and SlickDeals applications are my perfect examples... if I disable all notifications inside the programs they still run in backgrounds when not being used making it just a battery drainer and I don't feel like freezing and unfreezing every other day. I would rather them be installed and run whenever i feel like booting it.
Any help with be great!
I've always wondered of doing this unique way!
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Guide to Maximizing Battery Life w/o Disabling Half Your Phones Features

*Disclaimer* This is all from a personal experience and testing/research from a long time android user, what I have discovered over time and has helped me and some friends. This will work whether your rooted OR not. I kept it as basic as I can so everyone can benefit. If you dont like what you read and disagree, or want to add something PM me, Ill change/add and give credit to you. Hopefully, this can grow with the community.
*Rooted Section Will be Added*
*When I charge my battery I usually drain it all the way down or as much as i can (around 20% left) then charge plugged in till green, then power down and charge for another hour or so. Not sure if this matters or not but seems to help me out try it!*
This guide will help you if your rooted or non-rooted, all the apps I talk about I honestly have no ties to the devs. I don't use any SUPER AWESOME AMAZING BATTERY SAVER 5000 apps or anything like that. Those mostly just turn ur radios off and on and kill apps in the background. In my experience a lot of them cause syncing issues with my e-mail and other notifications. I like to receive my information instantly not have an app waiting for me to turn my screen on to check for updates.
About my personal setup: Basically, I want my phone to last me all day but still perform well with a heavy use, WITHOUT needing to constantly change settings to save battery. With what I have here Im able to keep my Sensation running for a full day of moderate-heavy use (7:30am to around 10pm) with its STOCK battery (Did damn well on my Evo 4G too). Days of very minor use Ive gone into the second day with 60% + battery. Yes, I use all my home screens and have a good amount of widgets, I love sense and its widgets. I play games, surf the web, do a lot of texting, listen to a lot of music, decent amount of fbing and email, usually take a few pictures a day. Half my day is wifi/other is mobile data.
Here goes the real basics, mostly common sense here not trying to insult anyone. Feel free to browse thru it quick (green text) if your not totally new to the android scene, whats after it will be a good read for noobs and vets.
*I use the power control widget, make getting to a lot of settings quicker. Why waste battery digging thru menus?*
Basics:
-Screen brightness: (duh ) these pretty screens eat battery brighter=quicker drain naturally and from my experience leaving it on Auto Brightness kills more battery too. Each time your phone pulls information from the sensor to decide on how bright it should adjust itself too.
-GPS: If GPS is on it should not effect battery unless an app is using it and you see the GPS icon on your notification bar. I noticed a very slight increase in mA discharge when i had it enabled, to be safe leave it off if you dont use it extremely frequently.
Location thru mobile networks: Not to hard on battery. I leave mine on it does add drain but it takes away from my weather widgets updating when Im traveling.
-Bluetooth: Moderate battery drain. I honestly don't use it at all myself but if you do try your best to keep it off when not in use.
-Wifi: Android has gotten a lot better at managing wifi over the past few years. It doesn't drain that bad on battery and it shuts off/on periodically on its own when screen is off depending on whats using it.
Google Back-Up: Takes a little juice here and there no biggie. I dont use it just because I like to fresh install my apps when I try a new rom, run into less problems that way.
2G/3G/4G: This varies phone to phone, the slower speed the better battery life. If you know your not going to be using 4G for a while turn it off. I leave mine on 4G or wifi all day with my sensation. When I had Sprint and my Evo I would leave it off most of the time. Depending on your carrier and how their data works this is a big one. T-Mobile seems to handle well, Sprint and Verizon's 4G Ive seen eat an insane amount of battery.
Sync/Background Data: I lumped them together because sync is pretty much reliant on background data. These kill a lot of your battery in general. It syncs your apps (email, facebook, google data, contacts, etc.), the periodic checks your apps do to check for and download new emails and notifications, using background data (data still transmits when screens off). I always leave these on and still manage great battery life, I like things instant if I wanted to wait Id just wait till i got in front of a PC. Sync and Background data are the settings most battery saving apps control because they really can help your battery if you turn it off. You can control what core apps sync in settings>accounts and sync. Or the power widget that 95% of android phones have has it on there. I recommend minimizing the amount of apps you allow background data with, example: WeatherBug first launch it asks if it can automatically update itself in the background for apps were thats not necessary hit no.
Radio/Airplane Mode: Pretty self explanatory, turns off your connection to your wireless provider. No point in ever turning it off in my eyes, your phones no longer a phone.
What has really helped me with my battery life (non-basics):
There is a lot to be said when it comes down to 2.2+ android phones and whether they need a task killer anymore or not. Since Ive had a lot of android phones and a few now that are 2.2+ Ive done a lot of testing. I usually go about a 2 weeks on one idea or new task killer and keep a close eye on battery drainage using Battery Monitor Widget, free app in the market. It tells you exactly how much of your battery is being drained without killing battery itself. Each phone/rom settles at a different average mA lower the better. In my experience if I can keep my phone anywhere under 100mA when idle im doing good. This held true on both the Evo 4G and my Sensation. Some ASOP roms i could get down to the 30's but for sense under 100mA is good. Keep in mind you will get the occasionally spike here and there its just android and/or apps in the background. You can view the a chart of the battery data in Battery Monitor.
Instead of boring you guys with each task killer Ive used and its results, Ill just get down to what I found out in the end.
Basically, the way android 2.2+ works it really isn't necessary to run a task killer it does a decent job removing apps from memory when you need more memory. But at the same time I found running a task killer periodically (BUT not killing frequently used apps) results in a lower average mA drain leading to overall better battery life.
The best application I have used has to go Automatic Task Killer , trust me Ive used a lot from the top free ones to a few of the more popular paid ones. What this task killer does is kill a selection of apps you allow it too every time your phones screen shuts off and goes idle. On Automatic Task Killer's first boot your shown a screen of every application that could at some point run in the background on your phone. This part sucks a little bit but it is worth it, you need to select which of the apps you want to allow it to kill automatically. It does not kill foreground apps the ones you currently have open on the screen aka a browser or a game. Example your playing NFS: Shift and your boss walks by so you quickly pause and hit the power button turning off the screen, next time you turn the screen on it will kill all other allowed background apps but your game will still be up front and center.
Now the trick is to go thru and set it to kill apps you know your phone won't automatically just restart or you don't use 90% of the time. So don't select things like Dialer, Contacts, Clock, Calendar, Messages or apps you constantly use/check such as a third party SMS app or your main E-Mail Client or third party keyboards (various by person and what you use most). Letting the app automatically kill those is just going to lead to worse battery life because your phone will just restart it each time leading to more CPU cycles (not what you want and part of the reason some consider task killers bad things).
Also, when using any task killer and killing the proper apps sense runs smoother, a big deal with sense 3.0.
So hopefully with a little messing around you can get a good setup where your phone lasts you all day without having to constantly keep changing settings and watching your battery life. All while everything stays syncing and instant. Hope this helps!
*ROOT Section (now that we have s-off )
Everything posted above can be done on any rom, rooted or none. There has been a lot of posts on "freezing apps" that you dont need or typically use, which does in fact really help battery life. Since, we (by we i mean sensation users) now have a permanent root this is my tiny second part of the guide for rooted devices.
I dont freeze my apps I prefer them to be gone for good if its something I dont see myself using or its bloat that came with my phone/rom. Since 98% of us will be using custom roms now this usually isnt an issue since most dev's r good at what they do and remove all the bs we dont need or normally use. Still there is some apps we may not want on our phones so for that I use SystemApp Remover . Its a great App for people who dont want to have to worry about going in manually and getting rid of system apps.
Its just basically an Uninstaller that allows you to access any and every app on the phone for you to uninstall (thats y roots needed). For me I just go in an drop the apps I know i wont use. A lot of roms come with carrier add-ons and such, those I normally delete as well as a few HTC sense widgets and apps I see no need for. It will free up space and increase your phones battery life with most things you delete.
Now, be careful. You are prompted upon opening SystemApp Remover that messing in system apps is dangerous and it is. If your not sure what something is DONT touch it, simply do a google search or ask around to see if its safe to remove first.
Re-calibrate Battery: After you flash a new rom or start using a new battery, you should use your recovery (CWM or other) to Wipe Battery Stats. Before you do this make sure your battery is at 100% and has been on the charger for over an hour with the fully charged green led on. This will allow your device to better drain your battery and can really help battery life.
So hopefully with a little messing around you can get a good setup where your phone lasts you all day without having to constantly keep changing settings and watching your battery life. All while everything stays syncing and instant. Hope this helps!
Thanks to people who have contributed:
-JadeSoturi
thanks for sharing the experience
i'm trying Automatic Task Killer
devine might said:
thanks for sharing the experience
i'm trying Automatic Task Killer
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no problem. let me kno how it goes for you
very good info! would also help if you specify which versions of android.....
Thanks for the info, hope it will increase my battery life to last a day
Airfaire said:
very good info! would also help if you specify which versions of android.....
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im on my sensation so 2.3.3. Been getting a lot of hate on the sensation forums since task killers are officially deemed no longer needed, but this method really helps me with battery life hoping itd help some of u too
Watchdog> then any task killer
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Hmm, ill try auto task killer as well, tried a few others.
I use JuiceDefender, I like it. It manages my connectivity pretty well and it does help.
This is excellent, many thanks. As a converted WM 6.5 user I have to say, I am enjoying android considerably more and I prefer it to the Metro interface of WP7. It's nice to know the little tricks to get the most out of it. Thanks again. ^_^
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I use JuiceDefender, I like it. It manages my connectivity pretty well and it does help.
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same here, JD works pretty good
TastyTorge said:
same here, JD works pretty good
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Worth getting the full one or will the free version do?
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Thanks
Thanks for the info, and for sharing, i will try the different methods
i havent really bothered with task killers but ive found reducing the brightness and disabling data and sync makes my battery last alot longer. i just re enable when i need them.
also, i downloaded setcpu and added a profile for while the screen is off. that helps alot. the drain is about 5% with the screen off after every 3 or 4 hours.
Very good info thanks
You had me impressed until you mentioned task killers. Absolutely horrible...
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Martin_Toy said:
Worth getting the full one or will the free version do?
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Full version is much better.
It's killer app indeed. I think many of it's features should be natively included in android.
Options like "Turn off 3G/EDGE when connected to Wi-Fi", "Turn off all radios when screen is off", "Turn off Wi-Fi after x minutes if it doesn't connect to a network", "Set screen brightess to minimal when battery is low", etc....it wouldn't be that hard to implement and battery life, perhaps most criticized aspect of Android, would improve immensely.
fpu
floating_point_unit said:
Full version is much better.
It's killer app indeed. I think many of it's features should be natively included in android.
Options like "Turn off 3G/EDGE when connected to Wi-Fi", "Turn off all radios when screen is off", "Turn off Wi-Fi after x minutes if it doesn't connect to a network", "Set screen brightess to minimal when battery is low", etc....it wouldn't be that hard to implement and battery life, perhaps most criticized aspect of Android, would improve immensely.
fpu
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Your mobile network DOES turn off when connected to wifi, and if all radios turned off when the screen went off, how would you ever get calls or emails with the phone in your pocket? The wifi after x minutes would be a nice feature, but I don't like things touching my screen brightness.
Thank you for your information.

Wi-Fi Sharing Battery Drain

Hi all,
I just rooted my phone tonight and froze a bunch of bloatware using Bloatware Freeze found in the Market.
I went to go study and listened to music on my phone for a few hours and noticed that "Wi-Fi Share" used more battery than anything else including the display (something like 30%).
What is this Wi-Fi sharing? I've had my phone now for a week and have never seen this show up in the battery stats. Is it just a coincidence it shows up right after rooting or is it directly related to the rooting/bloatware freezing process.
Also, I did not freeze Wi-Fi Sharing or Wi-Fi Sharing Manager because I did not see them on a previous forum post on safe to freeze programs.
Thanks!
I started seeing this on my list last night. I'm not rooted either. Not sure why this is now hogging up battery.
Freeze wifi sharing and manager!!!!
Freeze apps on the skyrocket
After i root my phone, first thing i do is freezing all my bloatware apps and for weeks i had very bad battery life (the awake time was always ON - very annoying) after reinstalling again same rom i had before (complete wipe) i decided not to freeze any apps - that did the trick, 3% loss after 9 hours sleep time.

Not using phone/sms/data, maximize battery?

I stopped paying my bill back in June since my job provides a cell phone.
Now it is simply used for mp3s and ebooks.
I have a Nexus 7 but still a bit too large for my taste to pull out on the subway train in New York during rush hour.
Currently I use my old Galaxy 1 Vibrant as only an alarm clock and I only have to charge that every 3 weeks or so.
This phone, even if idling on my desk will lose 10-20% over night.
I have airplane mode on and data disabled. What else can I do to get this up higher?
Currently im on aokp milestone 6.
I guess a rom/stock would be an option now as I'm not really using it for anything else.
Any particular processes to freeze in Titanium?
Any apps that you don't use... remove them. They aren't helping anything just being there.
Install Greenify and greenify anything that you don't need to have running in the background, but that you actually use. I like to greenify Facebook and other apps where I don't want them to always be running, but other programs work better with them installed.
If you have the donation version of Greenify, it can tell you which apps are waking your phone out of deep sleep as well. That can help save a ton of battery life when you decide that you don't REALLY need that app if it will wake up your phone 900 times overnight.
Look at the various running applications and consider their usefulness. Do you actually want that program to be running in the background? Is it useful? Is it worth the battery? That's something only you can decide...
Definitely take a look at Better Battery Stats -- it will reveal the culprits pretty quickly.
Install a ROM and don't install gapps, if you can get away without Play (store). At the very least, freeze all the Google crap when you aren't using Play.

How I solved my battery drain on my Relay.

Really, it comes down to installing Xposed framework and Greenify.
Sometimes we need to be told straight up what works, and its installing XPosed Framework, and installing Greenify to identify what's waking up and consuming battery - and then telling Greenify to put it to sleep.
I'm doing this write up because it's something I know a lot of us are facing with our Relay's as they age and we try to stay current with new roms.
Like quite a few of us I've sacrificed battery life for an updated rom that looks decent and runs fast. Between builds and Kernels I was lucky to get through the day let alone to 24 hours without my phone needing a charge - even if I didn't play any games.
I tried flashing clean and not using titanium backup - didnt have any effect once I had the apps I desired installed.
I checked OS Monitor, wakelock detector, battery usage things, juice defender... nothing really extended or identified what he true cause, things said Android System UI or Display or Graphics was eating it all up. I started wondering if it was the latest roms with the transparent pull down notifications or the annoying pop ups that show you text messages and emails in the top foreground of the screen ..
Turns out for me, it was my "Transparent Weather Widget" I wanted something that showed a 5 day forecast and this sucker was DRAINING my battery.
I'm now running SlimKat initial build (Mar 15 2014) with Xposed framework, Juice Defender and Greenify. Everything is working perfect on my phone now. I keep checking in greenify and sleeping apps that don't need to be using any resources until I execute them. One item about SlimKat is you need to 2 finger pinch together the recent tasks to close all apps at once, other than that it has every feature I wanted, less annoying pop ups than the most recent KitKat's and my battery today - 50% after 14 hours. Usually at the most by a day like today I would have is 15% but more likely 6%.
This may be long winded, but its the steps we've all been mystified on why System UI or Display is the leading cause of battery use.. I think it has to do with the transparency of my widgets .. Food for thought if it helps others.
yohan4ws said:
Really, it comes down to installing Xposed framework and Greenify.
Sometimes we need to be told straight up what works, and its installing XPosed Framework, and installing Greenify to identify what's waking up and consuming battery - and then telling Greenify to put it to sleep.
I'm doing this write up because it's something I know a lot of us are facing with our Relay's as they age and we try to stay current with new roms.
Like quite a few of us I've sacrificed battery life for an updated rom that looks decent and runs fast. Between builds and Kernels I was lucky to get through the day let alone to 24 hours without my phone needing a charge - even if I didn't play any games.
I tried flashing clean and not using titanium backup - didnt have any effect once I had the apps I desired installed.
I checked OS Monitor, wakelock detector, battery usage things, juice defender... nothing really extended or identified what he true cause, things said Android System UI or Display or Graphics was eating it all up. I started wondering if it was the latest roms with the transparent pull down notifications or the annoying pop ups that show you text messages and emails in the top foreground of the screen ..
Turns out for me, it was my "Transparent Weather Widget" I wanted something that showed a 5 day forecast and this sucker was DRAINING my battery.
I'm now running SlimKat initial build (Mar 15 2014) with Xposed framework, Juice Defender and Greenify. Everything is working perfect on my phone now. I keep checking in greenify and sleeping apps that don't need to be using any resources until I execute them. One item about SlimKat is you need to 2 finger pinch together the recent tasks to close all apps at once, other than that it has every feature I wanted, less annoying pop ups than the most recent KitKat's and my battery today - 50% after 14 hours. Usually at the most by a day like today I would have is 15% but more likely 6%.
This may be long winded, but its the steps we've all been mystified on why System UI or Display is the leading cause of battery use.. I think it has to do with the transparency of my widgets .. Food for thought if it helps others.
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Really good post, I can say I using 20140315 version (last working camera) and last kernel for it (don't remember the version) get really good performance and similar battery, using the same xposed
OmniToad now includes methods to turn off specific alarms and wakelocks at a lower level than greenify and/or Xposed.
Magamo said:
OmniToad now includes methods to turn off specific alarms and wakelocks at a lower level than greenify and/or Xposed.
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You can try the battery performance already?
yohan4ws said:
I'm now running SlimKat initial build (Mar 15 2014) with Xposed framework, Juice Defender and Greenify. Everything is working perfect on my phone now. I keep checking in greenify and sleeping apps that don't need to be using any resources until I execute them. One item about SlimKat is you need to 2 finger pinch together the recent tasks to close all apps at once, other than that it has every feature I wanted, less annoying pop ups than the most recent KitKat's and my battery today - 50% after 14 hours. Usually at the most by a day like today I would have is 15% but more likely 6%.
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What kind of wireless networks do you use throughout the day and what kind of screen on time are you juicing out in your 14 hours??
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What kind of wireless networks do you use throughout the day and what kind of screen on time are you juicing out in your 14 hours??
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30 second timeout on the screen, i check it to read emails and texts, the odd phone call, sometimes i will run a wifi diagnostic for the networks i support using fing and wifi analyzer.. i keep my phone off and locked otherwise. in the car bluetooth is enabled. i was going wifi diagnostic yesterday when i got such great battery life.
today i have android weather and clock widget (cant recall the exact name) running w 3hour update .. after 8 hours i have 58% remaining, im in an area with horrible cell coverage , stats say 38mins screen on time.
there is nothing different of my usage over the passed cpl weeks, just enabling greenify and sleeping a voip app, facebook, google maps and the weather widget.
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there is nothing different of my usage over the passed cpl weeks, just enabling greenify and sleeping a voip app, facebook, google maps and the weather widget.
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I'm using dashclock with 15min weather update, greader app with over 120feeds (aggregated in feedly) with 15 min update interval too and lots of other apps including the evil facebook+messenger. I switched recently from latest LiquidSmooth to Omnitoad and the result is I got the battery dropped by 9% overnight (10 hours) in idle mode.
Nota bene: without any tweaking.
I installed the Xposed framework and successfully used it to get rid of the "Just Once" app picker annoyance.
Edit: the play store has a Greenify which requires Xposed framework. Tutorial on Greenify use is on Youtube. Up and running now, but noticed that I am not getting a GPS fix now ever since the altrnt app picker MOD. It's always something!
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How can install xposed on cm 11?
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I installed the Xposed framework and successfully used it to get rid of the "Just Once" app picker annoyance.
Edit: the play store has a Greenify which requires Xposed framework. Tutorial on Greenify use is on Youtube. Up and running now, but noticed that I am not getting a GPS fix now ever since the altrnt app picker MOD. It's always something!
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Hi! Do you have your relay with CM11 or stock ROM? I can't manage to install xposed with CM11. Thanks!
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Hi! Do you have your relay with CM11 or stock ROM? I can't manage to install xposed with CM11. Thanks!
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I'd be curious to know too. I recently tried to install xposed again (last time I used it was probably a couple of years ago) on my Relay running the last official CM11 nightly, and it didn't work either. First the installer complained that xposed isn't compatible with my version of the Android SDK, but there is a fix for that (I forget where, but it is somewhere on XDA). But even when I applied the fix, it still failed, I started getting bootloops. So yeah, I'd love to know how to install xposed on the Relay too...
I have to say, I have been using my Relay more lately, as my main phone has been having some issues, and the main thing that keeps me from using it more is battery life. I'm not crazy about the screen, but I can live with it, and I have just about everything else running fairly smoothly - and the keyboard is just a joy to use. This thing is a real workhorse. But when the battery plummets down to ~70% or 60% within a couple of hours of use, that's just not cool...
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I'd be curious to know too. I recently tried to install xposed again (last time I used it was probably a couple of years ago) on my Relay running the last official CM11 nightly, and it didn't work either. First the installer complained that xposed isn't compatible with my version of the Android SDK, but there is a fix for that (I forget where, but it is somewhere on XDA). But even when I applied the fix, it still failed, I started getting bootloops. So yeah, I'd love to know how to install xposed on the Relay too...
I have to say, I have been using my Relay more lately, as my main phone has been having some issues, and the main thing that keeps me from using it more is battery life. I'm not crazy about the screen, but I can live with it, and I have just about everything else running fairly smoothly - and the keyboard is just a joy to use. This thing is a real workhorse. But when the battery plummets down to ~70% or 60% within a couple of hours of use, that's just not cool...
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Hi, i got it working with the files in this posts
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72133164&postcount=210
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72133164&postcount=209
I download both files, first I install the apk and got a bootloop, and then flash the zip from recovery. That fixes the bootloop and keep xposed installed.
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Hi, i got it working with the files in this posts
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72133164&postcount=210
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72133164&postcount=209
I download both files, first I install the apk and got a bootloop, and then flash the zip from recovery. That fixes the bootloop and keep xposed installed.
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So - install .apk, then flash the .zip - correct? And xposed is working well now for you?
[EDIT] So the .apk you posted worked just fine for me, no need to flash the .zip! Odd, but grateful this worked. Thanks!
Just wanted to confirm: Greenify (root) + Greenify xposed module + Amplify xposed module make a huge difference. Battery lasts much longer, and I have this sneaking suspicion the phone is generally smoother and less laggy. Might well be placebo, I know, but with useless background processes being sht down it might well have an effect on performance...
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So - install .apk, then flash the .zip - correct? And xposed is working well now for you?
[EDIT] So the .apk you posted worked just fine for me, no need to flash the .zip! Odd, but grateful this worked. Thanks!
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Great! I don't know why, but i had to flash the second one too.
Could you tell me which options have you check in Greenify and Amplify with xposed to get better battery life?
Thanks!
Greenify: Root mode + Xposed, of course. I've got automatic hibernation set, and for xposed features, I set all of them except Deep Hibernation
Amplify: even just selecting the default wakelock blocks in the free version helps a lot, but I use the paid version and I limited just about every wakelock that the app said was safe to limit (but only ones that were also described as safe in their blurb - some in the "safe" list are described as "we don't have any information for this wakelock yet") except for a few that were really light wakelocks.

[Q] Need help making sense of battery optimization/endurance on a rooted phone

Greets lads,
For "TL/DR"s: Not gaining any battery improvements with root/xposed capable tools (Greenify/Amplify); losing important features like on-time notifications; need help on Greenify settings or alternatives for them.
I am facing an issue, in fact, i always did, when trying to follow battery tips people go for when they root their phones.
I've just recently rooted my Note 8 (Exynos), nevertheless, i always go for a self-controlled system on my phone rather than very modified Custom ROMs, either i modify my stock rom, or find a minimally touched one in the custom rom threads.
Usually, if i achieved massive battery improvements, i ended up with a lot of sacrifices. In previous phones (Note 3, Galaxy A3 2014, HTC M8), i managed to get twice the screen time and battery life when i set-up the usual procedures to , which are: De-bloat (what i dont need and is safe to get rid off), Xposed because of Greenify and Amplify (PowerNap too).
The issues that i would get at these times were delayed notifications i.e from messaging apps, delayed waking up from sleeps (my sleeping, not phone ones) cause the alarm would never make it on time. Now all these apps were white-listed from all the apps that are supposed to limit them.
Now with Samsung Oreo, things look way to weird. My alarm app (Timely) works flawlessly and wakes me up as supposed to, it's untouched by the Samsung Device Maintenance, it is not on the Greenify list, and on Amplify it's not even taken in to consideration as i use the only two features that it allows you in the non-donated version, to limit the wake-ups of Play Services.
However, many messaging apps (obviously white-listed), turned very strange. Many times im in front of my computer, talking on the same platforms already existent on my phone, and 20 minutes later, i open my phone, and i am bombarded by all the incoming communication that i already witnessed on the desktop. This doesnt make any sense.
First, i have already acknowledged them, i was texted on them, i replied, on the desktop. The fact that they show up on my phone means they probably make it in time on my phone, but my phone decides not to wake up. Sometimes it does this without opening the phone up, maybe after 20 to 30 minutes after.
My set-up is: Samsung Galaxy Note 8 (Exynos, SM-N950F), TWRP, rooted with Magisk v16.6, Xposed (Modules: Amplify, Greenify, MinMinGuard), Greenify is Donated version, Amplify is not (would love to, but impossible in my region due to racist google), and root permissive apps such as AdGuard (which is terrible), FX File Explorer (for obvious reasons), Trimmer fstab (not sure if i actually need it), Termux for root shell.
My questions is, WTH am i doing wrong.
BetterBatteryStats shows the usual output on root too, nothing major draining it, but no whatsoever gains of battery life compared to the unrooted past, i mean, 2h screen time with 24h battery life, pathetic, that was the default on my previous 4/5 year old phones, and when i set-up the usual rooted procedures, i would get 4/5h screen time in 48h of battery life.
Any tips on Greenify settings? Any tips for alternative/substitution apps for the ones i already use? (WakeBlock i.e never worked or made my phones unbootable)
Thanks in advance.
Totally feel you and I'm searching for an answer to this, too. I had Greenify installed via the discontinued Magisk module and Xposed, and it started getting REALLY wonky, freezing up and ****. After reading that a lot of people here don't think it's even necessary beginning with Oreo, I uninstalled it and now the lag on my OP3 is pretty horrible, even after freezing the bulk of my apps with TB.
I too would appreciate any advice that can be given... have a OP3 on OxygenOS Oreo 8.0, rooted with Magisk, have Xposed, have debloated everything I have found safe, and using Nova Launcher.

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